HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 11-13-07MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 13, 2007
7:00 p.m. CALL TO ORDER
Given PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Puckett absent ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Nielsen, Chair Pro Tem Puckett
Commissioners Kozak, Murray, and Thompson
Staff present Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Christine Shingleton, Assistant City Manager
Tim Serlet, Director of Public Works
Doug Anderson, Transportation/Development Services Manager
David Kendig, Deputy City Attorney
Terry Lutz, Principal Engineer
Justina Willkom, Senior Planner
Edmelynne Hutter, Associate Planner
Ryan Swiontek, Associated Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
None PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
Approved 1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 23, 2007,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Adopted Resolution 2. TENTATIVE TRACT
No. 4068, as ACRE SITE INTO
modified by staff LETTERED LOTS
prior to the meeting DEVELOPMENT OF
SPACE, PUBLIC S-
FACILITIES.
MAP 17144 SUBDIVIDING A 131-
12 NUMBERED LOTS AND 28
FOR THE PURPOSE OF
COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, OPEN
fREETS, AND FLOOD CONTROL
APPLICANT: TUSTIN LEGACY COMMUNITY
PARTNERS
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PROPERTY CITY OF TUSTIN
OWNERS: TUSTIN PUBLIC FINANCING
AUTHORITY
LOCATION: PROJECT SITE GENERALLY
BOUNDED BY WARNER AVENUE TO
THE NORTH, ARMSTRONG AVENUE
TO THE EAST, BARRANCA
PARKWAY TO THE SOUTH, AND
RED HILL AVENUE TO THE WEST
ZONING: MCAS TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
PLANNING AREAS 9 THROUGH 12
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 4068
recommending that the City Council approve Tentative Tract
Map 17144 to subdivide a 131-acre site into 12 numbered
lots and 28 lettered lots for the purpose of development of
commercial business, open space, public streets, and flood
control facilities.
7:02 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Willkom Presented the staff report, pointing out the suggested modifications
that were provided at the dais.
Thompson Asked staff to explain the detention basin area that appears to
overlay the park and whether or not this would be a combined use
with the Orange County Flood Control District (OCFCD) or a part of
the City facilities for storm drain purposes.
Willkom Suggested that Doug Anderson, Transportation and Development
Services Manager, should answer that question.
Anderson Stated that the basin is a requirement of the OCFCD for
improvements to the Barranca Channel which is currently an
impaired water body and is deficient; one of the requirements was
to retain some of the flow on-site; the basin will function as a joint-
use facility; in the off season, when there is no flow, it will be
maintained as a passive open space and may be used for
recreational purposes; there is also a 24-inch low-flow pipe that will
be installed adjacent to the current channel which would catch the
nuisance flow from Red Hill and the site and transfer those through
the property; the only time water is expected to be retained is after
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a large, intense rainfall; there are inlet and outlet structures,
everything that would be in a normal basin, will be included.
Thompson Asked if that becomes a facility that the County operates as a flood
control device.
Anderson Indicated that it is a County requirement that the master developer
through the association will provide the landscaping; the various
inlet/outlet structures will be maintained.
Nielsen Suggested that this area will be used as a Linear Park unless a
significant rainfall would require it as a retention basis.
Kozak Asked if there will be any improvements to the Barranca Channel.
Anderson Answered in the affirmative, probably from Aston easterly to link up
with the covering of Barranca Channel just west of Tustin Ranch
Road that the District development is improving; it will all be a
covered channel.
Thompson Referred to the reference on page 3 is to open space as a flex use;
and, asked if this would be private or public acreage.
Willkom Responded that the open spaces are private areas with the
exception of the sports field planned for Lot 9 which will be public.
Nielsen Questioned whether the park facilities with open space with a
perpetual public easement would be maintained by the
homeowners association.
Willkom Answered in the affirmative.
Nielsen Asked for clarification regarding a possible gymnasium or other
private park areas that the public would not be able to access in the
Linear Park area.
Willkom Replied that all the Linear Park area will be open to the public.
Nielsen Stated his understanding that the perpetual public easement is
ongoing with no time limit.
Willkom Answered in the affirmative.
Puckett Asked staff to repeat the numbers of the conditions that were
modified.
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Willkom Reiterated the condition numbers: 2.1, 6.1, 6.5, and 11.2.t.
Director Added that Condition 13.3 is proposed to be eliminated.
Thompson Recommended that Item J on the revised resolution referencing
sewer in relation to the Regional Water Quality Board should be
changed to storm runoff.
Director Stated the condition is accurate.
Nielsen Asked if it is accurate now or would be accurate as modified by
Commissioner Thompson's suggestion.
Kendig Indicated that it will be accurate if it is revised to state storm runoff.
Kozak Referred to page 13 of the Environmental evaluation; it is
encouraging to see the improvements to Red Hill with the raised
landscape median as an example; and, asked for clarification
regarding IX. in the last paragraph referencing modifications to
parking standards.
Willkom Stated that the modification to parking standards was approved by
the City Council a few months ago through a zone change
proposal; the proposed project tract map will be consistent with
what the Council approved.
Nielsen Asked why there was no Negative Declaration included in the staff
report.
Willkom Responded that staff prepared an Initial Study Checklist and
requests that the Planning Commission determine that the project
is consistent with the program EIR/EIS with no new mitigation or
additional environmental impact information required.
Nielsen Asked if pedestrian access through the Linear Park across
Carnegie and Armstrong would include pedestrian bridges.
Willkom Stated there will be a pedestrian bridge across Armstrong.
Nielsen Invited the applicant to the lectern.
Elizabeth Cobb, Stated the applicant is pleased to have the Neighborhood E
representing tentative map, which encompasses the initial entitlement, to begin
Legacy Park breaking ground and getting into construction; this is a monumental
partners point for the developer.
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Ms. Cobb This is a complex project and this is one neighborhood with two to
continued come; the applicant has worked with staff on the conditions; a
formal letter was submitted and is incorporated herein by reference;
the letter outlined the conditions already worked through with staff;
the exception would be Condition 6.8 with reference to the Red Hill
median and the response to constructing that and working with the
City through a reimbursement agreement.
Applicant understands the importance of the median to the City and
is willing to work with the City as construction begins on the east
side of the street and anticipates that the applicant can work
collaboratively with the City through the design elements and the
construction elements of the median; there are many details in
working through the median which the applicant anticipates
resolving with the City; the applicant would like to see a concurrent
invoice payment to help the applicant deal with cash flow concerns,
considering it was not part of the Development and Disposition
Agreement (DDA) and what was contained in the infrastructure at
that time; this is a highly technical component; applicant is putting
forth the comments with the understanding that this can be worked
through with staff.
Nielsen Asked staff to respond to the applicant's remarks regarding
Condition 6.8.
Shingleton Stated she had spoken with the City Manager on the applicant's
Assistant City request regarding Condition 6.8; the improvements of medians was
Manager required by the Specific Plan on other projects similar to Tustin
Legacy developers such as Lennar and William Lyon who had the
full responsibility for construction of those medians; it was an
oversight which was not specifically isolated in the DDA although
Red Hill improvements were required; staff has agreed to include
the Red Hill median cost reimbursement as an item for which the
Redevelopment Agency would compensate the developer with the
obligation that the developer would be required to construct the
median.
The applicant has alternatively requested that, while the applicant
assumes a construction role on the median widening, a
construction management role on the median is unacceptable to
staff; the applicant will have full responsibility; staff recommended
full construction of the median and the full right-of-way
improvements on the east side of Red Hill Avenue; staff agreed to
work through a required reimbursement agreement to provide the
developer with segmentation of the physical improvements to allow
for adequate reimbursement; the language requested regarding
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concurrence, approval of
recommended at this point;
be
be
concurrent with every invoice that the applicant receives on a
construction project; the City will work collaboratively with the
developer to find segments which staff determines to be
reasonable.
It is requested that the Commission trust staff in this regard and not
recommend any further alterations to this condition.
Kozak Suggested that segmentation of the project and payment for
construction will be covered by the proposed reimbursement
agreement.
Shingleton Answered in the affirmative; adding that this is an expense that the
Redevelopment Agency has agreed to accept; it would normally be
a developer obligation of the Specific Plan for the developer to
construct; this is far in excess of what would be normal; similar
conditions have been imposed on other developers at the Legacy.
Nielsen Asked if this requirement refers to timing.
Shingleton Stated that the requirement refers to timing and construction
management versus construction obligation; the City's position is
that the obligation for construction shall be the developer's.
Nielsen Asked if the applicant had any comment.
Ms. Cobb Responded that the Redevelopment Agency is working closely with
the developer and the cooperative effort is appreciated; this is not
something to hold up the recommendation to move the project to
the City Council.
7:27 p.m. The Public Hearing closed.
Commission It was the consensus of the Commission that the project be
recommended to the City Council, as modified and as proposed by
the Assistant City Manager.
It was moved by Murray, seconded by Thompson, to adopt
Resolution No. 4068. Motion carried 5-0.
Adopted Resolution 3. AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 01-031, A
No. 4075 REQUEST TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 01-031 TO ALLOW
FOR MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLINIC USE. THIS
invoices, and payments cannot
the segmentation will automatically
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PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE MCAS TUSTIN SPECIFIC
PLAN (SP-1) ZONING DISTRICT.
APPLICANT: ORANGE COUNTY RESCUE
MISSION
ATTN: JOHN LUKER
PROPERTY
OWNER: CITY OF TUSTIN
LOCATION: 1 HOPE DRIVE
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 4075
approving an Amendment to Conditional Use Permit 01-031
to allow for medical/dental clinic use in conjunction with the
approved transitional housing use at 1 Hope Drive, Building
B.
7:31 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Hutter Presented the staff report.
Murray Stated his concern was that the survey took place at the Santa Ana
location; if there was 20 percent walk-up at Santa Ana, please
explain how those statistics relate to the Tustin walk-up.
Director Pointed out on the Site Plan the campus environment planned for
this location which would not allow for walk-up such as the Santa
Ana location; the plan is for individuals to filter through the security
area to the proposed clinic; the clinic is intended solely for the
individuals who are receiving services from the transitional facility or
who have an appointment.
Murray Asked if there is any video planned for security of the parking area.
Director Suggested that would be a question for the applicant.
Puckett Stated the walk-up was also his concern, but staff's explanation
answered that concern.
Director Added that was the reason for the addition of Condition 2.4.
Nielsen Asked if the overflow parking would be in the basketball court area.
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Director Answered in the affirmative.
Thompson Asked if staff could explain further about the Santa Ana facility that
was used as an analogue for this application.
Director Suggested the applicant may want to address this issue; staff was
advised that the Santa Ana facility exists in a strip mall, a
commercial area wherein common parking is shared with other
commercial tenants; the Tustin location would share parking for the
pure uses associated with the Village of Hope.
Kozak Asked if the area occupied by the clinic would reduce the 192-bed
count for the transitional living center.
Rutter Indicated the residents' rooms are located on the second and third
floors of that building.
Kozak Questioned whether this is a proposed use for an otherwise vacant
area in the men's dormitory.
Rutter Answered in the affirmative.
Kozak Asked if there were conditions related to the disposal of biowaste
and security for the pharmacy and pharmaceuticals contained in
that pharmacy.
Director Answered that those issues would be handled by the licensing
agency rather than the City.
Kozak Asked what the licensing agency would be.
Director Responded it was her understanding that would be the Orange
County Health Department.
Nielsen Asked if the original plan for this space was for extra rooms in the
men's dormitory, storage area, or what.
Director Stated it was staffs understanding that it was always the Rescue
Mission's desire to provide some sort of health facility.
Nielsen Invited the applicant to the lectern.
John Luker, Vice Stated the applicant appreciated staffs assistance in bringing this
President of the application to the Planning Commission; the medical/dental clinic
Orange County was always anticipated to be a part of the Village of Hope and was
Rescue Mission part of the original application; there was a major renovation to
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allow for the clinic; the intent was to help other people at that
facility, but the parking was an issue; the parking study showed that
about half the people would arrive by bus or be dropped off at a
nearby location and walk to the facility; therefore, the maximum
amount of parking would not be necessary; there are video
cameras at the security gate that record everyone who comes into
the facility; the clinic use will be by appointment only and
everyone's name will be recorded for security purposes.
Murray Asked what was anticipated as the walk-up or drop-off numbers.
Mr. Luker Responded that the average was anticipated to be 40-50 percent
bus traffic or drop-offs.
Nielsen Asked how many patients are served monthly, yearly in the Santa
Ana facility.
Mr. Luker Responded about 40 patients per day; the current facility does not
service dental, which will be added to the Tustin facility; about 50
are anticipated per day.
Nielsen Asked what sort of medical staff will be available.
Mr. Luker Responded there are 8-9 nurse practitioners, medical assistants,
and a medical doctor who oversees the staff.
Nielsen Questioned the extent of the treatment planned at the facility.
Mr. Luker Replied that it will be a primary care clinic for patients with flus,
colds, maintenance of low-income diabetics, some blood work;
there will be no surgery, no anesthesia.
Nielsen Stated his understanding there would be no emergency designation
at this location.
Mr. Luker Answered in the affirmative.
Murray Asked what mitigation is planned if the circumstances and/or
caseload begins to exceed the expectations.
Mr. Luker Answered that the facility would have to see how the parking works
out and return to staff, if necessary, to determine what changes
could be made.
Nielsen Questioned whether an addiction treatment is planned at this
location.
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Mr. Luker Answered in the negative.
Puckett Asked if the facilities will be available seven days a week.
Mr. Luker Responded that the 192-bed facility is a 24/7 operation; the clinic
will be Monday through Saturday, 8:00 to 6:00 p.m.
Thompson Suggested that the space count was determined based upon the
campus nature of the site.
Mr. Luker Answered in the affirmative.
Nielsen Asked if prescriptions will be filled on-site and what sort of security
would be put in place.
Mr. Luker Stated that most prescriptions will be filled off-site; the facility does
receive some donations, such as antibiotics, which are kept in a
locked on-site pharmacy and is regulated by the Department of
Health with all the requirements of a regular pharmacy.
Murray Asked if there will be 24-hour security within the campus.
Mr. Luker Responded in the affirmative.
Murray Questioned whether that would alleviate any concerns regarding an
alarm system in the actual medical facility.
Mr. Luker Stated the medical facility will be monitored full time in addition to
the on-site staff.
7:50 p.m. The Public Hearing closed.
Thompson Questioned whether Condition 2.4 could be qualified with a certain
timeframe, such as 12 months, so that it is not left open-ended.
Director Indicated that staff has the ability for an annual review, if necessary,
but has not typically required a specific timeframe.
Nielsen Suggested that, if parking or traffic were to become a problem, staff
would have the ability to revisit the issue.
Kozak Supported the amendment; this is a good addition to the Rescue
Mission.
Murray Agreed with Commissioner Kozak.
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Puckett Stated the Village of Hope is a great facility and a welcome addition
to the City.
Nielsen Indicated he is pleased to see this facility added to the Village of
Hope.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to adopt Resolution
4075. Motion carried 5-0.
Adopted Resolution 4. USE DETERMINATION 07-002 AND CONDITIONAL USE
Nos. 4069 and PERMIT 07-015 REQUESTING A USE DETERMINATION
4070 TO ESTABLISH A DOG DAYCARE, TRAINING, AND
BOARDING FACILITY AS A CONDITIONALLY
PERMITTED USE IN THE IRVINE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
SPECIFIC PLAN AND PLANNED COMMUNITY
INDUSTRIAL (PC-IND) ZONING DISTRICT AND TO
CONDITIONALLY PERMIT THE PROPOSED USE AT
14402 CHAMBERS ROAD.
APPLICANT: LAURIE AND DAVE ZURBORG
WAGS & WIGGLES DAYCARE, PART
DEUX
PROPERTY
OWNER: THUNDERBIRD PROPERTIES LP
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 4069, approving Use
Determination 07-002 to allow fora dog daycare,
training, and boarding facility.
2. Adopt Resolution No. 4070, approving Conditional Use
Permit 07-015.
7:56 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Swiontek Presented the staff report.
Kozak Asked for clarification regarding the five foot wide sidewalk
requirement; he visited the site and saw no sidewalk there now.
Swiontek Deferred to Public Works for the answer to that question.
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Lutz Answered that the sidewalk is being added throughout the park.
Kozak Asked if that will be a standard condition for the planned
community.
Lutz Answered in the affirmative, as the projects come through.
Thompson Questioned whether or not modifications are planned for the noise
aspect.
Swiontek Stated that only interior tenant improvements are proposed along
with parking lot configuration to meet the current City standards and
also landscaping; there will be no new openings cut in the building
nor any new doors; the sound study recommended that all windows
be closed to comply with the Tustin Noise Ordinance; all
recommendations of the sound study have been conditioned; the
applicant will have to comply with those recommendations; in
addition, the applicant is conditioned to apply sound attenuation
which the applicant can better describe; the product used at the
current facility is proposed.
Nielsen Invited the applicant to the lectern.
Laurie Zurborg, Indicated that barking is minimal in a dog daycare environment as
applicant, and opposed to a kennel environment where dogs are sitting in kennels
Lisa Knight, co- and are bored and frustrated; because the dogs play with each
owner of the new other in a daycare situation, the only barking will be play barking;
facility the attendants use positive reinforcement to quiet the dogs with
humane bark-control devices; shock collars are never used; the
plan is designed with interior walls which results in double walls
inside; at the Rancho location, there is an outside area, but none is
planned for this location.
Thompson Asked if the other facility has a similar proximity with residential
areas.
Ms. Zurborg Stated that the residential area is closer at the Rancho location; in
that location, the facility shares a wall with another tenant and has
received no complaints or problems.
Murray Asked for clarification of the waste mitigation system.
Ms. Zurborg Answered that inside the building there are janitor carts that have
poop bags on them; staff cleans the waste up right when it
happens, close the bag, and put that bag into another bag; the
waste is disposed of in the regular trash containers; outside the
building, if clients allow their dogs to use the front grass area, there
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are disposable poop bags on a stand; clients are asked to bring the
waste inside to be disposed of properly.
Puckett Welcomed the business to Tustin.
Nielsen Asked how late someone would be there in the evening and how
early in the morning.
Ms. Zurborg Indicated the staff arrives at 7:00 a.m. and, depending on the
training classes, leaves between 8:30 and 9:00 p.m.; the difference
between a daycare and a kennel is that the dogs are exercised for
11 hours a day and are so tired that they want a good night's rest.
Nielsen Asked if staff might be there until 10:00 or 11:00 at night.
Ms. Zurborg Answered in the negative.
Kozak Thanked the applicant for the thoroughness of the proposal; and,
asked if the trash enclosure would be covered.
Ms. Zurborg Answered that the plan is to modify the structure as there may not
be enough room for a recycling bin and a waste bin.
Kozak Asked whether the exterior walls will be improved.
Ms. Zurborg Indicated that the building has been painted; added it has been
enjoyable dealing with the City of Tustin; and, thanked Ryan
Swiontek for his diligence and communication with the applicant.
John Collins Stated that he is a commercial broker who works with the owners
(provided no adjacent to the site; while he is excited that a group like this is
speaker form) coming to the property; there are concerns regarding the control of
the animal waste outside the property and the possibly of the
property getting rundown; if the property is not properly maintained,
a revocation of the conditional use permit would be in order; 30
employees in Santa Margarita and nine people in the new facility,
which is larger, does not compute; parking may be impacted across
the street.
Nielsen Asked staff to address the traffic issue.
Lutz Indicated that these types of traffic issues are generally addressed
with peak hour volumes in mind; the traffic generated by this
particular use is not peak-hour sensitive; there is a spread of time
during which the dogs are delivered and picked up; the volume is
not enough to be considered a problem; Chambers Road is in the
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industrial area and does not have the traffic a major arterial would
have.
Nielsen Asked if staff could make the traffic study available to Mr. Collins.
Lutz Answered in the affirmative.
Nielsen Invited the applicant back to the lectern to address the other
questions posed by Mr. Collins.
Ms. Zurborg Stated there have been no complaints at the current facility
regarding waste distributed off the property even though that facility
is closer to other tenants.
Nielsen Asked if there is a monitoring procedure at that facility.
Ms. Zurborg Indicated that poop hunts are a regular procedure for staff.
Nielsen Asked for clarification regarding the staff size.
Ms. Zurborg Stated that there are six to seven employees are the Rancho site
and nine are planned for the Tustin site; she does not know where
the number 30 came from.
Thompson Suggested that, if there is a problem after the facility is opened,
there would be a code violation aspect and enforcement.
Director Answered in the affirmative and referred to Condition Nos. 6.1, 6.3,
6.4, 6.7 that address this issue; any sanitary nuisance would be
addressed by the Tustin City Code from a broader perspective; the
conditional use permit could be revoked if those specific conditions
were violated.
Kozak Asked the applicant if she understood those conditions.
Ms. Zurborg Answered in the affirmative; and, reiterated there have never been
any code violations at the Rancho site.
Swiontek Clarified that Condition 6.6 states that the facility is limited to nine
employees at any given time; Condition 6.5, staff requested that the
hours of operation on Sunday be changed from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00
a.m. and 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., to simplify
the matter in case operations do change on Sunday.
8:20 p.m. The Public Hearing closed.
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Commissioners It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that this is a
good use for the property.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to adopt Resolution
Nos. 4069 and 4070, as modified. Motion carried 5-0.
Adopted Resolution 5. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 07-001, ZONE CHANGE
Nos. 4071, 4072, 07-002, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 07-011, AND
4073, 4074 DESIGN REVIEW 07-012 REQUESTING:
1. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 07-001 TO CHANGE THE
GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM
PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL TO PLANNED
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL/BUSINESS.
2. ZONE CHANGE 07-002 TO CHANGE THE ZONING
DESIGNATION FROM PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL
CENTRAL COMMERCIAL (C-2) ZONING DISTRICT.
3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 07-011 AND DESIGN
REVIEW 07-012 TO AUTHORIZE THE DEMOLITION OF
AN EXISTING CHURCH BUILDING AND CONSTRUCT AN
AGE-RESTRICTED (62 YEARS OR OLDER) ASSISTED
LIVING/CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY ON A 2.882
ACRE SITE LOCATED AT 13841 RED HILL AVENUE.
OWNER/
APPLICANT: AMERICAN SENIOR LIVING
DEVELOPMENT, INC.
ZONING: PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 4071 adopting the Mitigated
Negative Declaration.
2. Adopt Resolution No. 4072 recommending that the City
Council approve General Plan Amendment 07-001.
3. Adopt Resolution No. 4073 recommending that the City
Council approve Zone Change 07-002.
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4. Adopt Resolution No. 4074 recommending that the City
Council approve Conditional Use Permit 07-011 and
Design Review 07-012.
8:25 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Willkom Presented the staff report, pointing out the modifications that staff
was recommending and that were provided at the dais.
Nielsen, Puckett, Noted for the record that they had met with the applicant prior to the
Murray, Kozak, and meeting.
Thompson
Kendig Asked if at any time there were more than two Commissioners at
these meetings.
Commissioners Answered in the negative.
Tom Saltarelli, Indicated this is an exciting time for the developer; this project has
lawyer and been in the works for two years; the applicant hopes to move
consultant for forward to the City Council; redevelopment is important to the City,
applicant the applicant has no problems with any of the conditions; the
owner, Frank Haffner, and members of his staff are available for
any questions the Commission may have; John Haffner has a brief
presentation.
Nielsen Commented on the impressive 3-D presentation; and, asked if
there were any questions for the applicant.
Murray Suggested that subterranean parking can sometimes present
challenges from the safety standpoint; and, asked if the access to
the subterranean parking was gated or if there would be other
means of denying access to unwelcome visitors.
Mr. Haffner Answered that the on-site circulation presented a queuing issue
preventing the parking garage from having a gate; however, there
is a gate in the subterranean level that prevents guests from
parking in resident stalls and also prevents access to the elevator
or stairway; the only way to access the elevators and stairways
would be to go through the secured gate in the parking garage by
pressing an intercom button and be granted access through a video
system at the receptionist's desk.
Murray Asked if there would be means for requesting emergency
assistance should someone have a medical issue in the
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subterranean area by pressing an emergency button or similar
measures of that type.
Mr. Haffner Indicated that such a system could be implemented; the plans
provide for a security system utilizing video cameras which are
viewable via the Internet by staff only; those cameras include the
subterranean area.
Puckett Complimented the applicant on the professional presentation; and
asked if there would be access to the alley through a gate or
whether that was an emergency access.
Mr. Haffner Replied that would be an emergency access.
Thompson Suggested that the traffic study indicated a restriction for left-turn
movements out the driveway; and, asked if that was a City
restriction.
Lutz Answered that the traffic study suggested the restriction and staff
concurred.
Thompson Asked how the height of the structure compares to the recently
approved and under construction Cottages project.
Willkom Responded that the Cottages project is 2'/2 stories of 35 feet in
height; the proposed development will be 47 feet at the highest
point, the tower structure along the Red Hill elevation.
Nielsen Asked for the mean height of the rest of the project.
Director Answered that the height would be approximately 40 feet.
Thompson Asked for clarification regarding the mention of future tie-ins to the
reuse of the high school.
Mr. Saltarelli Stated that a building that is bordering the street in the back should
include architectural features and articulation in order to merge
nicely with whatever future development takes place; the fire
access road that goes around the project will be 30 feet wide and
provides a nice setback and would add that same setback to
whatever neighboring project goes in; once the Legacy is complete,
there will be no option but to redevelop existing properties, and
more infill redevelopment will be required.
Thompson Asked how the high school events and noise issues may impact the
project.
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Mr. Haffner Responded that the developer has high standards and utilizes
acoustical engineers in the design of windows and walls that would
mitigate the noise.
Kozak Commented that, as residents begin to move into Monarch Village,
those that are facing the high school be advised that events will
occur that create noise, such as football games, fireworks, etc.
Nielsen Asked if any of the units in the project will be designated as low-
income housing.
Mr. Haffner Answered in the negative; and, added that it is the developer's
policy to make rents affordable which helps maintain occupancy in
the building.
Nielsen Asked for the time frame for demolition and reconstruction.
Mr. Haffner Indicated that the demolition should start in early 2008, pending the
approval and obtaining of proper permits; the project could be
finished in approximately 20 months.
Nielsen Stated that he noticed in modified Condition 1.12 concerns
regarding northbound traffic on Red Hill and left turns into the
project; and, asked if that will change from what exists now to a
striped turn pocket.
Lutz Answered the left turn would be discussed at the time of design;
staff envisions a striped left-turn pocket and a restriction to left turns
out of the project in addition to the right turn only sign.
Nielsen Asked if the ingress/egress is straight across from the Del Taco exit
and entrance on the opposite side of the street or offset a bit.
Lutz Indicated that the ingress/egress will be offset from the Del Taco
facility.
Nielsen Suggested that the age restriction covenant that runs with the land
will be perpetual.
Director Affirmed Chair Nielsen's suggestion.
Mr. Saltarelli Added that the design team can add an antenna from the
basement to the topside for facilitation of the emergency system
referred to by Commissioner Murray.
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Bob Davis, 1101 Indicated he lives in Heritage Place, is a retired Navy man, and is
Sycamore Avenue, 85 years old; there is a great need for this sort of facility in this
Tustin community; he moved into Heritage Place when his former place of
residence was sold and the rents raised; he called HUD who
recommended Heritage Place; the amenities provide many benefits
for seniors; the units are well-constructed, affordable, secure, and
enhance the lives of the elderly.
George Speicher, Stated he has lived in Tustin since 1975; the demographics of
14711 Alder Lane, Orange County are changing; this is a great project for seniors and
Tustin will improve the area.
9:11 p.m. The Public Hearing closed.
Thompson Asked if there would be any bikeway requirement of the west side
of the development.
Lutz Indicated that widening is planned for that area to accommodate a
bike lane.
Commissioners It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that this is a
landmark project and a wonderful addition to Tustin.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to adopt Resolution
Nos. 4071, 4072, 4073, and 4074. Motion carried 5-0.
None REGULAR BUSINESS
STAFF CONCERNS
6. REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE NOVEMBER 6,
2007, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Director reported The City Council heard the appeal of the items decided upon by the
Planning Commission, the Hampton Village 77-unit condominium
project; the Council approved the project with modifications, such
as additional setbacks, height restrictions, windows restricted from
opening and to be opaque; the Zone Change was approved for that
project alone; if the developer does not take advantage of that
project within two years, the City has the ability to rezone to an R-4
designation; the Council chose to put safeguards in place to ensure
that what was approved would be constructed and no higher
density project built if the property were sold to another developer.
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Director continued The City adopted a Negative Declaration for the Tustin Commuter
Rail Station parking structure for a future project; when the City has
plans and specifications for that, the plans will be brought to the
Commission as an informational item.
The Council held the first reading of the International Building Code
and related construction codes Ordinance, required to be adopted
prior to the end of the year; the Planning Commission will continue
to be the Board of Appeals.
The project that the Commission took action on this evening would
be subject to the dense and tall building Ordinance that the Council
considered earlier this year; that is a County-wide Ordinance that
the Sheriff, Tustin Police Department, and Orange County Fire
Authority asked be adopted.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thompson Reported that he attended the Tustin Preservation Conservancy
neighborhood mixer at Quinn's Restaurant a couple weeks ago, a
very nice event.
Stated he will be attending the Building Industry Show in Long
Beach beginning this Thursday, hoping to improve his skills as a
Planning Commissioner.
Kozak Thanked everyone on staff for the great work in bringing these
projects to the Commission tonight; all the work had been done by
staff and the applicants.
Congratulated the Spencer family on their Pumpkin Pride award;
and, thanked Tustin Pride and Parks and Recreation for
recognizing homes in Tustin for Halloween decorations.
Noted the Dinosaur Dash raised almost $200,000 with a record
7,690 runners and walkers of all ages.
Murray Complimented staff on their great work and for making the
Commissioners' jobs a lot easier.
Added compliments to his fellow Commissioners and
acknowledged their assistance to him in gaining knowledge in this
area.
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Murray continued Stated his wife and family participated in the Dino Dash; Doug
Davert made a comment encouraging Commissioner Murray to
contribute next year and to bring that message to the other
Commissioners; Commissioner Murray will be participating next
years and encouraged fellow Commissioners to volunteer.
Complimented the Novak family for their support of Station 43 and
all of the firefighters who were involved in fire safety during the
recent firestorms.
Noted he is looking forward to the Mayor's Prayer Breakfast this
Thursday.
Remarked that he received information regarding fire construction
on buildings that abutted the areas where a neighboring community
had potential fire damage; his understanding was that embers have
the ability to enter the venting of the roofs, that some newer
construction adds venting to tiles in the roofs; and, asked if that is
something that is being passed on to builders in Tustin.
Director Indicated staff has heard nothing as yet.
Murray Asked for staffs plans regarding the overview on the building permit
process that he had requested at a prior meeting.
Director Responded that staff plans to provide that overview.
Puckett Stated he attended a luncheon at the Hyatt Regency in Irvine that
was a fundraiser for the Boy Scouts of Orange County primarily
sponsored by the commercial real estate industry in Orange
County; $300,000 was raised for the Orange County Council of the
Boy Scouts of America; there were about five scouts that helped
with the presentation of the colors-one a Life Scout and one an
Eagle Scout; it takes 21 merit badges to earn Eagle; these two
guys must have had 50 or 60.
Noted he just returned from three weeks in Australia and New
Zealand; it was a great time, but three weeks is a long time to be
away from Tustin; Tustin has a sister city in New Zealand, Mata
Mata, which is two hours south of Auckland, an area where Lord of
the Rings was filmed; he intended to get down there but was
unable to do so.
Indicated the Mayor's Prayer Breakfast is sponsored by the Tustin
Community Foundation; 7:00 a.m. this Thursday at Marconi
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Museum, and will be a great event; Chuck Devore is the speaker;
everyone who can attend should do so.
Wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
Nielsen Stated that Chair Pro Tem Puckett was missed while he was away.
Indicated that he will also be attending the Mayor's Prayer
Breakfast; Chuck Devore is a great speaker who always has
something worthwhile to say.
Stated he also attended the Conservancy mixer and enjoyed
seeing the folks from Old Town.
Noted the Tustin Chamber mixer at City Hall included the Police
Department giving tours and showing off what they do for the
community; he believes our Police Department is the finest in
Orange County.
Added that a resident called him regarding the interior lighting for
office buildings that is visible from the street, specifically neon
lighting; there is a building on First Street near the post office that
has a tremendous amount of neon lighting; and, asked what codes
may be at issue.
Director Indicated that staff is aware of that situation and is looking into it.
Nielsen Noted that the neon is visible from the right-of--way and the
businesses across the street.
Wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
9:33 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Thompson, seconded by Puckett, to adjourn.
Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Plannin ommission will be held
Tuesday, November 27, 2007, at 7: p. the City Council
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