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FEBRUARY 12, 2008
7:00 p.m. CALL TO ORDER
Given PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Nielsen, Chair Pro Tem Puckett
Commissioners Murray, Puckett, Thompson
Presented by: PRESENTATION
Chair Nielsen and
Linda Jennings, Tustin Garage, 1915, Tustin Historic Register Plaque
President,Tustin Beach Pit BBQ at Tustin Garage
Preservation Conservancy Tim DeCinces, Owner
560 EI Camino Real
Nielsen Stated that it was his great pleasure to present this plaque in
recognition of a Tustin landmark since 1915 and also the
excellent reuse of the facility with the Beach Pit BBQ; invited
the owner, Tim DeDinces, to the lectern and also invited
Linda Jennings and any member of the Tustin Historical
Society who might be in attendance to participate in the
presentation.
Added that he has visited the restaurant and can recommend
the food and atmosphere.
Thompson Indicated he and his family had also visited the restaurant
and would recommend the sliders.
Puckett Agreed with Commissioner Thompson's recommendation.
Murray Echoed the above comments and provided a menu as proof
of his visiting the restaurant.
Mr. DeCinces Stated that this was his first time attending a Planning
Commission meeting to receive an award; he and his staff
are very happy to be a part of the Tustin community; this
reuse was made possible by a number of people, including
the Planning staff, who shared his vision of this reuse of an
historical building.
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None PUBLIC CONCERNS
Approved CONSENT CALENDAR
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -JANUARY 22, 2008,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
2. APPROVAL OF CERTIFICATE OF APPRO-
PRIATENESS REPORT REGARDING OLD TOWN
PROJECTS APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FROM DECEMBER
11, 2007, TO, FEBRUARY 12, 2008.
It was moved by Thompson, seconded by Puckett, to
approve the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-1. Nielsen
abstained.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Adopted Resolution 3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 07-021 AND DESIGN
No. 4082 REVIEW 07-021, A REQUEST TO ESTABLISH A
MAJOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS
FACILITY CONSISTING OF A STEALTH MONO-
PINE, SIX PANEL ANTENNAS, AND ASSOCIATED
EQUIPMENT LOCATED WITHIN A BLOCK WALL
ENCLOSURE TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE
PROPERTY IN AN LANDSCAPED AREA. THIS
PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 2441 MICHELLE DRIVE
IN THE IRVINE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX PLANNED
COMMUNITY PLANNED COMMUNITY INDUSTRIAL
(PC-IND) ZONING DISTRICT.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
4082 approving Conditional Use Permit 07-021 and
Design Review 07-021.
7:07 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Swiontek Presented the staff report.
Thompson Asked for the height of the antenna at Joe's Garage.
Swiontek Stated that the antenna at 36 Auto Center Drive is 60 feet
high.
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Thompson Asked if there is a requirement in the conditions that relates
to maintaining the existing landscaping.
Swiontek Read Condition 2.3 that addresses that issue.
Thompson Questioned whether there would be any loss of parking or
landscaping due to the screening.
Swiontek Answered there would be no loss of parking; the associated
equipment will be located behind the proposed block wall
enclosure that will be painted to match the existing building.
Murray Referred to the antenna located south of the proposed
antenna at the intersection of Michelle and Myford; and,
questioned whether the proximity would present any issues
or concerns.
Swiontek Responded that the Tustin Code requires a minimum of 100
feet between major wireless facilities; the facility at 2631
Michelle is in excess of the required distance.
Murray Stated his concern regarding Condition 1.10, a through d,
and the potential interference with the 800 MHz radio system.
Swiontek Answered that the applicant is required to perform apost-
installation test through the County's Sheriff-Coroner
Department; upon completion of that test, the Sheriff's office
will provide the City with a letter of approval.
Murray Asked whether the addition of this tower would contribute to
the drainage of power during electrical power outages.
Swiontek .Suggested that might be a question for the applicant.
Director Added, if upgrading of service were required, that would be
determined through the building plan check process.
Nielsen Asked for the actual height of the block wall.
Swiontek Replied that the height will be 7'/2 feet.
Nielsen Questioned whether there would be mitigation measures in
place for ongoing or future interference.
Director Indicated that, when the interference issue came up some
time ago, the carriers got together with local law enforcement
and the Orange County Sheriffs Department and created the
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conditions that are now included; if applicants meet these
requirements, there are no issues because of the banding;
the telephone number is provided in the event certain carriers
have issues; the Sheriff's office closely monitors the
interference situations.
Nielsen Asked what the wattage output of this antenna will be.
Director Stated that would be a question for the applicant.
Nielsen Invited the applicant to the lectern.
Pete Shubin, representing Indicated the staff report has been reviewed and all the
Royal Street conditions of approval are acceptable as presented in the
Communications, the report.
applicant
Regarding the questions:
The carriers that have ongoing issues with
interference have frequency band widths around the
800 MHz range; Royal Street owns a license which is
between 1800-1900 MHz; there have been no known
interference problems, and this is monitored on a
case-by-case basis.
He was not prepared to answer the question of
specific wattage output of this site; this site and sites
like it throughout Orange County that have been
installed recently are operating at somewhat less than
5 percent of the allowable output, even with all the
radios turned to the maximum.
Murray Asked if Royal Street has other sites in close proximity to
Tustin or neighboring communities.
Mr. Shubin Answered that the Royal Street network is marketed under
Metro PCS, a network that was turned on in September for
commercial service in Southern California; it was turned on in
Los Angeles and is heading into south Orange County this
year; there are sites that have been approved and others are
under construction in near proximity, such as Santa Ana; to
his knowledge, the only ones in Tustin are approved and in
the plan check stage.
Thompson Referred to the attempt to contact Joe's Garage; and, asked
when a decision is made not to pursue an existing pole.
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Mr. Shubin Stated there are two approaches:
• With regard to the Joe's Garage property, Royal Street
was interested in looking at the existing Nextel facility
and also perhaps extending the parking lot lights on
the roof of the garage that would have minimal impact
and still meet the coverage needs; due to one of the
property owners decease and the properly being in a
stage of upheaval, there was no one who could sign a
lease.
• If that issue had not come up, Royal Street would not
have looked at that pole very long; an attachment to
the pole probably would not have been allowed; that
would have become a drop and swap, meaning tear it
down to build something else, creating a budget that
would not be financially feasible.
Puckett Commented that the camouflage is the best he has seen.
Mr. Shubin Responded that the director of Royal Street has the mindset
to do things right the first time rather than trying to fix
problems later.
Kozak Added that the applicant has done an excellent job creating a
stealth facility that is very attractive; and, asked if Joe's
Garage were to request co-location on the proposed site,
would the facility accommodate those antennas.
Mr. Shubin Replied that, since that structure is 60 feet tall, the antennas
would require the structure to be a little taller; as networks
mature over time, the heights will become lower; if that were
to be the case, a co-location would be acceptable; other
carriers would also be able to co-locate on this facility in the
lower branches.
7:30 p.m. The Public Hearing closed.
Commissioners It was the consensus of the Commission that this is a good
project and is welcome in Tustin.
It was moved by Murray, seconded by Kozak, to adopt
Resolution No. 4082. Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS
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Received report 4. PROJECT SUMMARY
The summary focuses on the status of projects that the
Planning Commission, Zoning Administrator, or
Community Development Director approved, major
improvement projects, and other items of interest.
Director Explained staffs purpose in providing the Summary of
Projects.
Thompson Asked if there is any way staff can calculate how far along the
overall project is at this point.
Director Stated that staff may be able to expand the monitoring report
for the Commission; the residential information is quite
detailed by developer; staff may be able to further identify the
Master Developer's square footages by neighborhoods; staff
will also be bringing the EIR/EIS monitoring report to the
Commission for recommendation to the City Council.
Puckett Suggested that it appears Vestar is approximately $5 percent
complete; there appear to be two or three pads yet to be
filled; is there information regarding what will be going in
there.
Director Indicated the Bistro West restaurant is currently under
construction; Marmalade will be coming in for permits in the
near future.
Kozak Thanked staff for the informative report; and, asked if the
Tustin Strata Center is the site on the corner where the old
house is located.
Director Answered in the affirmative.
Kozak Questioned whether the developer has met with staff and
developed an acceptable proposal granting the right-of-way.
Director Answered in the affirmative.
Kozak Commented that it is good to see that the Orange County
Rescue Mission is moving forward as an intervention for
homeless families, a very important resource.
Thompson Asked staff to characterize how the slow-down in the
economy relates to the Legacy.
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Director Answered that developers will be requesting a modified
phasing plan, phasing in the same manner but perhaps the
phasing will be cut in halves or quarters because lenders are
requesting that phases be sold out before funding would be
allowed for the next phase.
Nielsen Questioned whether or not The Cottages might be delayed.
Director Indicated that the situation there is the same as everywhere
else in the industry.
Nielsen Asked about retail tenants for the live/work and restaurant
area at Prospect Village.
Director Replied there is not yet an approved tenant for the restaurant
space; the developer is anticipating being completed by the
end of next month.
Nielsen Asked for clarification and delineation between the duties of
the Planning Commission and the Zoning Administrator.
Director Suggested perhaps it would be useful to provide the Zoning
Administrator ordinance to the Commissioners.
Nielsen Replied that would be appreciated; and, asked about the
planned schedule for Tustin Ranch Road through to Edinger.
Lutz Stated it is his understanding that the completion is planned
for 2009-2010.
Nielsen Questioned what the phasing of the project would be,
whether the pass-through south of Walnut would be done first
or near The District.
Lutz Replied that City staff has been working with the City of Irvine
regarding the costing of the improvements; he is not sure of
the phasing plan but will get that information for the Planning
Commission.
Murray Asked if there is an expected completion date for Barranca as
it relates to Jamboree and The District.
Lutz Indicated he has little involvement with the Legacy; he can
ask Doug Anderson to provide answers in that regard.
Director Suggested that the information could be provided in a
memorandum format.
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Murray Referred to earlier comments that the District is 85 percent
complete; and, asked if any additional traffic mitigation is in
place or planned for the interior traffic plan.
Director Responded that there have been on-site mitigation
improvements that can be provided to the Commission; staff
will provide that information in a monitoring format.
Puckett Stated he purchased his home March 1, 1975, in Peppertree
which Tustin Ranch Road from Walnut south will abut; there
was a time when people complained about that road going
through who are now pleased that the road will connect the
residents into the District.
Asked if the work is progressing on Cathy's Kids.
Director Indicated that permits were issued recently and progress
should be evident soon.
Puckett Asked if the Citrus Ranch Park is the park just north of the
golf course and would include the entire area.
Director Answered in the affirmative.
STAFF CONCERNS:
5. REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE FEBRUARY
5, 2008, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Director reported In the Director's absence, Dana Ogdon attended the
February 5th meeting; any questions should be directed to
him.
Nielsen Mentioned that he attended the Council meeting; there was a
nice presentation regarding the schools planned for the
Legacy.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thompson Stated that he and his wife attended and enjoyed the Mayor's
Inaugural Dinner.
Offered his congratulations to Mayor Amante.
Attended with Mayor Amante the Coastal Commission
hearing as part of his role with the Orange County
Transportation Committee Citizens' Advisory Committee;
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5,000 people were in attendance; he spent 14 hours there
~ " and the meeting continued another five hours after he left; it
s was sad to hear the TCA accused of immoral and wrongful
acts, causing him to be thankful for the professionalism that
exists in Tustin.
Stated he is looking forward to the ground-breaking
ceremony for the new Tustin Library next week.
Kozak Congratulated Mayor Amante for his efforts in establishing
the quiet zone along the railroad corridor at Red Hill which
should bring relief to the property owners and residents along
that right-of-way.
Thanked staff for the project status report; and, asked what is
happening at Tustin Royale.
Direction Indicated that interior rehabilitation is underway.
Kozak Stated that, when he visited the site for the wireless agenda
item, he noticed the vacant property that abuts Tustin Ranch
Road and the freeway; and, asked if staff had any information
regarding whether that will remain a blank, weed-covered
patch of land.
Director Asked for the specific location.
Kozak Reiterated the site is at Tustin Ranch Road and the freeway,
behind Toshiba.
Director Indicated that staff would investigate and report back to the
Commission.
Murray Asked if the property being referred to is off EI Camino Real
near Browning on the opposite side of the freeway.
Kozak Answered in the negative.
Murray Asked staff about the property on EI Camino near Browning
that is fenced, seems to have gone through various changes,
but remains an eyesore.
Director Responded that property is City-owned.
Murray Stated the Mayor's Inaugural dinner was outstanding; and,
offered his compliments to Mayor Amante and to Chair Pro
Tem Puckett for his participation in those ceremonies.
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Murray continued Reminded everyone that the Miss Tustin event takes place
March 1, and the Street Fair and Chili Cook-off take place on
June 1.
Puckett Indicated it was good to have Chair Nielsen back; filling his
role on the Planning Commission is not an easy task.
Noted he is the President-Elect of the Tustin Community
Foundation which sponsored the Mayor's Inaugural dinner;
this event is becoming the social event of the year in Tustin
and a humbling process for the new mayor; he has not seen
the financial report but believes the event will provide several
thousand dollars back into other Tustin non-profit endeavors.
Stated he attended the quiet zone meeting at Tustin
Meadows; Mayor Amante did an excellent job; the people
seemed pleased with what was presented.
Reminded everyone that Valentine's Day is coming up; this is
an important day and should not be overlooked.
Nielsen Noted that today is the 199th birthday of Abraham Lincoln;
with Presidents Day coming up, it is important to remember
both presidents who are being remembered.
Asked staff about plans for future tours for the Planning
Commission.
Director Responded that early darkness hinders the purpose; if the
Commissioners could be available at 4:00, staff could
arrange another tour.
Nielsen Requested that staff provide information regarding the areas
previously discussed and the timeframe necessary.
Stated he has been approached by various residents
regarding building permit issuance; and, asked whether or
not staff has any type of feedback information for customers
to provide back to the City.
Director Answered that feedback is not requested for each building
permit; a form is provided upon approval of discretionary
actions; perhaps something similar could be developed for
permits.
Nielsen Indicated he would be interested in seeing something like that
implemented.
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Nielsen continued Noted he also attended the Mayor's Inaugural gala; it was a
very good time with great food and people.
8:00 p.m. ADJOURNMENT:
Murray Suggested the meeting should be dedicated to the
Commissioners' Valentines for giving them the time to spend
at public meetings; all the Commissioners concurred with that
suggestion.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Tuesday, February 26, 2008, at 7:00 p.m. in
the City Council Chamber at 300 Centen~i~l Way.
Jofin,~lielsen
Elizabeth A. Binsack
Planning Commission Secretary
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