HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 02-26-08MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 26, 2008
7:01 p.m. CALL TO ORDER
Given PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chair Nielsen
Chair Pro Tem Puckett
Commissioners Kozak, Murray, Thompson
Staff present: Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Christine Shingleton, Assistant City Manager
Doug Holland, City Attorney
Dana Ogdon, Assistant Community Development Director
Terry Lutz, Principal Engineer
Scott Reekstin, Senior Planner
Justina Willkom, Senior Planner
Alice Tieu, Associate Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
Michael Garner,
PRESENTATION
Vestar Development,
delivered a PowerPoint show Mr. Garner indicated that The District is 99 percent finished
highlighting various aspects and 95 percent occupied.
of The District at Tustin
Legacy
Nielsen Thanked Vestar for this wonderful development which has
turned out better than anticipated.
Murray Added his compliments regarding the mitigation measures
that have been implemented related to the traffic situation,
which was the only concern he has heard about from
visitors to The District; and, asked if the PowerPoint show
is on The District at Tustin Legacy website.
Mr. Garner Answered in the affirmative.
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Murray Echoed Chair Nielsen's comments regarding this
development, adding that the new points of ingress/egress
should help to alleviate the traffic problems.
Mr. Garner Stated the development was truly a partnership between
Vestar/Kimco and the City of Tustin; without the staff, City
Council, and Planning Commission, none of this would
have been possible.
Thanked everyone involved for being a pleasure to work
with in bringing this vision to fruition.
Nielsen Asked how the smaller retailers in the Lifestyle area are
doing.
Mr. Garner Indicated that so far things are a bit slower than originally
hoped; the theaters have not been doing the business that
was expected, but the numbers seem to be improving and
should get better during the summer movie season;
creating awareness of the project in the community is a
challenge since there are many choices in Orange County;
it is the owner/developer/manager's job to reach out to the
community.
Puckett Asked if there is an opening date for In-N-Out Burger.
Mr. Garner Answered that date should be April 11, 2008.
Kozak Thanked Mr. Garner for his presentation; the unique mix of
restaurants is very welcome in Tustin; the directional signs
on-site seem to be helping the traffic flow.
Mr. Garner Indicated that the intention is always to make The District a
better experience for everyone.
Nielsen Added that the quick response to the traffic congestion
was very helpful.
Kozak Stated the Commission will look forward to future updates.
None PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
Approved 1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -FEBRUARY 12, 2008,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
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Commissioner Thompson 2. MCAS TUSTIN MITIGATION MONITORING AND
requested the item be pulled REPORTING PROGRAM
€ for discussion; Commission
requested that staff make The annual review and program memorandum
modifications and bring back provides the following:
to the Planning Commission
a. A general description of the project's status,
including actual or projected completion
dates, if known.
b. The current status for each mitigation
measure.
It was moved by Thompson, seconded by Puckett to pull
Item 2 for discussion. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Murray, seconded by Puckett, to approve
Items 1 and 3 of the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-
0.
Received and filed 3. STATUS OF LEGACY PROJECTS
Information the Planning Commission requested
regarding Tustin Ranch Road through the Legacy
and the Barranca Parkway improvements.
RECOMMENDATION:
Receive and file this report.
Thompson Stated he had the following questions for staff regarding
Item No. 2 of the Consent Calendar:
• Should Tustin Ranch Road be an infrastructure
project?
• If a project has been completed, could it be shaded
to allow for quicker reference?
• Is there afollow-up item for the Bike Trail?
• What is the next step for Hangar 29?
• Is T/C-6 referencing a table other than Table 5?
• Could clarification be provided regarding the Table
3-3 trip budget information?
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Nielsen Indicated he would like to know if there is a map showing
current and future bike trails; and, asked if there were staff
responses to Commissioner Thompson's questions.
Director Replied that staff could reply to some of the questions
now; the infrastructure questions will need to go to Doug
Anderson (who was unable to attend this evening); he is
more closely involved with trip budget issues.
Nielsen Asked for responses that would perhaps not take up too
much time and others could be brought back later.
Director Indicated that the shading could be provided; this is the
second monitoring report prepared to report the major
milestones regarding the MCAS Tustin EIS/EIR; the bike
trail map can be found in the EIS/EIR document which is
provided to all Planning Commissioners when they are
appointed; staff can separate the map out and provide it to
the Commission as a separate document if so requested;
a copy of the Master Plan of Bikeways can also be
provided if desired.
Nielsen Responded that those two items would be appreciated.
Director Stated that it might be best to bring responses to the other
questions back to the Commission.
Nielsen Asked if the County of Orange multi-treatment campus is
replacing a facility or is something new.
Director Stated that is a new facility.
Nielsen Asked if there is an update from the County regarding the
northern hangar.
Director Requested that staff be allowed to bring back a report to
the Commission.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to receive
and file the report. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Adopted Resolution Nos. 4. ZONE CHANGE 08-001 -AMENDMENTS TO THE
4083 and 4084 PROSPECT VILLAGE PLANNED COMMUNITY
DISTRICT REGULATIONS - TO ALLOW
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COMMERCIAL SERVICE AND PROFESSIONAL
OFFICE USES IN A MAXIMUM OF THREE (3) OF
THE SIX (6) LIVE-WORK UNITS FACING
PROSPECT AVENUE AND TO CLARIFY HOW
OWNERS OF RESTRICTED UNITS MAY BE
PERMITTED TO LEASE THE GROUND FLOOR
PORTION OF THE RESTRICTED UNITS. OTHER
VERY MINOR AMENDMENTS ARE ALSO
PROPOSED. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED IN
THE PLANNED COMMUNITY 9PC) ZONING
DISTRICT.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission:
a. Adopt Resolution No. 4083 recommending that
the City Council adopt findings that Zone
Change 08-001 and the Second Amendment to
the Disposition and Development Agreement
by and between the Tustin Community
Redevelopment Agency and Prospect Village
LP are within the scope of the previously
approved Prospect Village Final Environmental
Impact Report.
b. Adopt Resolution No. 4084 recommending that
the City Council approve Ordinance No. 1351
adopting amendments to the Prospect Village
Planned Community District Regulations (Zone
Change 08-001), attached to the draft ordinance
as Exhibit 1.
Thompson Indicated that he would recuse himself from this item since
he has a conflict of interest; he and his wife own a property
that is within 300 feet of the subject property.
Commissioner Thompson
Chamber.
7:32 p.m.
Reekstin
Puckett
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
was excused from the
Indicated it is good to see this great-looking project moving
along; and, asked if there is a projected occupancy date.
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Reekstin Responded that the developer expects completion by mid-
March; occupancy dates are unknown at this time.
Kozak Asked for clarification whether the relaxation that is being
proposed for these three units would only involve the
live/work units on Prospect Avenue and not the
commercial portion along Main Street.
Reekstin Answered in the affirmative.
Kozak Asked if this is an adjustment to the changes in the
commercial/retail service market place and the types of
businesses going in.
Reekstin Indicated that this allows the developer some flexibility in
selling those units, perhaps in reaction to the interest the
developer has received regarding purchasing the units.
Murray Asked if the minor changes referred to in the staff report
were referencing utilities, service systems, recreation, and
public services.
Reekstin Responded that the minor changes he referred to were in
the Planned Community District Regulations, shown in
cross-out and underline.
Nielsen Referred to the recent projects and the ground floor retail
aspect desired for Old Town; and, asked if this relaxation
would impact that intention.
Director Replied that the commercial building that fronts onto Main
Street will have the retail requirement on the ground floor;
this adjustment would pertain to the ground floor for the
units facing onto Prospect Avenue.
Nielsen Indicated that his was more a philosophical question
related to maintaining more of a retail presence in that
area.
Director Noted that when the Commission made the
recommendation to the City Council in 2006 to study the
entire area, the ground floor restriction for many of the
ancillary streets was removed.
Nielsen Invited anyone who wished to speak on this item to come
forward; no one did.
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7:43 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed.
Commission It was the consensus of the Commissioners that this is a
beautiful project and a welcome addition to Old Town; the
relaxation being confined to only three units seems
reasonable.
It was moved by Murray, seconded by Kozak, to adopt
Resolution Nos. 4083 and 4084. Motion carried 4-0.
Thompson Returned to the dais.
Adopted Resolution No. 5. CONTINUATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
4080, with one minor 07-014 AND DESIGN REVIEW 07-015 TO
modification CONSTRUCT A 7,650 SQUARE FOOT MIXED
USE DEVELOPMENT (OFFICE AND
RESIDENTIAL) LOCATED AT 170 EL CAMINO
REAL IN THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL (C-2),
WITH COMBINING PARKING (P) AND
CULTURAL RESOURCES (CR) OVERLAY
DISTRICTS.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt resolution No.
4080 recommending that the City Council approve
Design Review 07-015 and Conditional Use Permit
07-014.
7:45 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Tieu Presented the staff report.
Kozak Asked if the recommendation to the City Council to
approve the design review would include the commentary
regarding the embellishments on the building.
Tieu Answered in the affirmative.
Nielsen Asked if there are specifics regarding those
embellishments.
Director Indicated that would be at the pleasure of the Planning
Commission; the applicant's architect did a rather quick
turnaround to present the architecture before the
Commission this evening and tried to address the
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comments and concerns that were presented by the
Planning Commission; staff has additional concerns
regarding the elevations and overall treatments; these
concerns were included in the conditions of approval; the
applicant and architect would like to present their slide
show for the Commission; staff will take direction from the
Commission.
Thompson Asked, regarding the parking study, what the threshold
might be for the saturation point in Old Town Tustin.
Director Responded that the Old Town Parking Study that was
commissioned by the City Council will be provided to the
Planning Commission in the future; at this time, those
recommendations identify there are no parking issues
except for certain peak demand times.
Thompson Referred to the recommendation to increase the retail
space to 400 feet; stated this is a good suggestion; and,
asked what the square footage was on the slide that was
shown in the presentation.
Tieu Indicated that was the 196 square foot area.
Thompson Asked from where the additional square footage would
come.
Tieu Replied that the space could be expanded into the lobby
area; the applicant will need to decide that.
Puckett Asked if doubling the retail space will require the loss of
one parking space.
Director Answered that the loss may be one space and the need
for an additional two in-lieu spaces; that will depend upon
how the site plan is modified; a condition has been
included that takes that into consideration.
Puckett Suggested that the parking space issue is not a major
problem.
Director Stated that depends upon how the in-lieu number is
determined.
Paula Meyer, applicant Reiterated that she and the architect will be happy to work
with staff in fulfilling the additional requirements for retail
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and the architectural components; her plan is to live and
work in the building which should help the overall parking
impacts.
Susan Secoy, architect Indicated her PowerPoint presentation would be similar to
the one shown at the earlier Planning Commission
meeting but exemplifying the changes in the architecture.
Thompson Thanked the architect for the quick turnaround and being
responsive to the issues that were raised; and, asked
where the HVAC equipment would be located.
Ms. Secoy Responded that there is an area below the stair and the
elevator area.
Thompson Referred to the architecture; and, asked the architect to
describe the way the residence sets atop the first floor.
Ms. Secoy Indicated that would be accomplished with the difference in
the brick and the fact that the residence is pulled back to a
point where it will not be easily seen from the street; this
design goes back to the Renaissance where there were
different levels of structures; it is her job to make the forms
blend into the area.
Kozak Thanked the applicant and architect for the rapid and very
responsive turnaround on this item; noted he is excited
about the changes; and, asked the architect if the roof is
designed to reduce the appearance and/or massing of the
residential unit.
Ms. Secoy Answered in the affirmative.
Kozak Asked how the fascia on that roofline would be
approached.
Ms. Secoy Replied that the trim will be a metal product with an oil-
rubbed bronze finish.
Kozak Asked if it might be possible to reduce the horizontal
opening into the parking area; and if the windows could be
separated or if the spacing represented in the rendering is
required.
Ms. Secoy Indicated she could potentially shift the storefront glass to
the north but must be five feet away from the property line
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for fire protection; there is a minimum width for the drive
aisle of 25 feet.
Kozak Stated he was referring to the perimeter windows on the
lower portion and the residential unit, not trying to mimic
anything but to integrate some of the more traditional
elements to be found in Old Town; referred to the
horizontal pop-outs on the Robie House which could be
added across the top of the building and around the
opening to the entrance of the parking structure; and,
asked if the windows could have individual brown sills
rather than a band across.
Noted the conditions of approval architectural section
includes light fixtures and other changes to the south and
east elevations.
Indicated he supported the increased retail space and
waiving of the in-lieu fees.
Nielsen Agreed with Commissioner Kozak's comments; this is a
challenging site; with the additions mentioned by
Commissioner Kozak, the building would look less
institutional.
Murray Complimented the architect on the nice changes made in a
timely manner; a softening of the design would be more
harmonious with the area; the opening into the parking
area is still a concern.
Ms. Secoy Stated that she and the applicant had discussed the
possibility of a gate; and, asked if that might meet with staff
approval.
Director Replied that gates are discouraged for a variety of
reasons; staff looked at the gate issue and would like an
opportunity to discuss it with OCFA and the Public Works
Department; if there is a possibility to narrow the opening,
there might be an architectural benefit.
Murray Commented that it is very important to increase the retail
element to at least 400 square feet.
Puckett Indicated the architect has done a good job turning this
around; the east elevation is especially well done; the
more the structure is designed to look like the building in
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Orange, the better; 400 square feet of retail would be
desirable and acceptable; some colored brick would
improve the appearance of the north elevation.
Nielsen Stated that he understands that 400 square feet of retail
will be a challenge, but 196 square feet would not allow for
any successful business; eliminating in-lieu fees should be
encouraged.
Brad Fisher, 150 EI Camino Reiterated the concerns that he expressed at the previous
Real Planning Commission meeting.
Leonard Nettles, 180 EI Provided highlights from the "Visions of Old Town" booklet;
Camino Real and, restated the concerns he expressed at the previous
meeting.
Martin Rigby, Acorn Restated the issues he brought before the Planning
Naturalists Commission at the January 22, 2008, meeting.
Ms. Meyer Indicated she and her architect have removed elements
that were referred to as unacceptable to the neighbors and
will continue to work with staff and the neighbors to bring a
beautiful structure to Old Town.
8: 49 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed.
Nielsen Following discussion among the Commissioners, Chair
Nielsen enumerated the following refinements for
consideration by the staff and the applicant:
• More articulation on the front face
• Narrowing the driveway
• Move trash enclosure, if possible
• Soften the massing on the north elevation with other
historical materials
• Minimum of 400 square feet of retail
• Adjustments to the rooflines between the residential
and offices, if possible
• Window and door treatments on the east elevation
similar to the Helm building, the horizontal and
vertical treatments around the opening and pop-
outs at the top of the building to add depth.
Director Noted that staff included Condition 4.6 which relates to
various embellishments to all four sides and Condition 4.3
refers to lighting fixtures; issues such as the trash
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enclosure have been looked at closely and there are not
many options.
Kozak Suggested that Condition 4.6 could be modified to remove
"south and east" and insert "building" elevations.
It was moved by Murray, seconded by Thompson, to adopt
Resolution No. 4080, as modified. Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
Received and filed 6. ZONING ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE
Information the Planning Commission requested
related to the duties and function of the Zoning
Administrator.
RECOMMENDATION:
Receive and file this report.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to receive
and file the report. Motion carried 5-0.
Received and filed 7. AREA TOURS
Next tour scheduled: The purpose of the tours is to provide the Planning
4:00 p.m., March 11, 2008; Commission with an overview of various areas of
meet in front of the the City from a community development
Community Center perspective. The next tour could be scheduled for
March 11, 2008, beginning at 4:00 p.m.
STAFF CONCERNS
8. REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE
FEBRUARY 19, 2008, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Director Reported on one item on the Council Agenda, the Old
Town Parking Study; City staff will be transmitting that
document to the Planning Commission as an information
item; in the coming months, a presentation will be provided
for the Planning Commission; the City Council took the
Study under advisement and directed staff to follow up on
some of the actions that were included in the Study; some
of those actions would involve zoning ordinance
amendments, modifications to staff-implemented actions,
etc.
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COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thompson Stated that he attended the Library groundbreaking, anew
milestone in Tustin's progress.
Indicated he attended an OCBC luncheon that hosted the
U.S. Secretary of Transportation, Mary Peters; the focus
was on the innovation of transportation projects and
partnerships.
Added that he attended the American Society of Civil
Engineers Recognition Awards and could not help but
think that perhaps Tustin has unique aspects that could be
deserving of a future award.
Asked for an update on the status of the Old Town
Commercial Guidelines process.
Director Responded that there was no allowance in the current
budget for such a study; this may have to be allotted in the
next City budget if the Council is in accord.
Thompson Suggested that perhaps something could be prepared to
allow the Commission to consider various options that
might equip the Commission better in reviewing
applications and making a recommendation to the Council.
Director Asked for clarification regarding the options Commissioner
was referring to.
Thompson Answered that he was referring to something similar to the
Residential Guidelines or something similar to the RUDAT
study; through a collection of donated time from
professionals in the area, this might be feasible and would
create less stress on the budget.
Nielsen Suggested that perhaps Commissioner Thompson was
requesting guidelines to formulate parameters.
Thompson Replied in the affirmative; and, requested that staff come
back with potential possibilities and costs associated so
that the Planning Commission could sensitively make a
recommendation.
Director Indicated that staff would follow up on that suggestion.
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Nielsen Suggested that perhaps a workshop could be planned with
interested parties to create some parameters.
Kozak Thanked staff for the Mitigation Monitoring Report and the
hard work involved in this evening's agenda.
Noted that he also attended the Library groundbreaking, a
true example of a community partnership from a financing
standpoint; not one penny of debt is attached to this
project.
Congratulated Chair Nielsen on his appointment to the Boy
Scouts District Council for Tustin, North Tustin, Orange,
and Anaheim Hills.
Murray
Indicated he was unable to attend the Library ground-
breaking but is very happy to see that project move
forward.
Stated he was a guest at the Tustin Ranch PTA and was
impressed with the fantastic work being done; recently the
school was selected as one of 46 schools nationwide to
win a $2,000 award fora Take-Your-Family-to-School
grant.
Reminded everyone that the Easter Egg Hunt takes place
March 22 at Tustin Sports Park.
Commended the Tustin Police Department and Code
Enforcement staff on the Tustin Against Graffiti program;
and, offered accolades to Lt. Charlie Selano and everyone
else working on this program.
Puckett Stated that he attended the Library groundbreaking; this is
a tremendous event and historic time in the City's history,
seeing such a project coming to fruition; and, indicated he
was honored to represent the Tustin Community
Foundation in presenting a check to the City.
Noted that Chair Nielsen gave a wonderful presentation
regarding the McCharles House at the last City Council
meeting.
Reported that, as a member of the Community
Foundation, he also sat on the meeting panel for the
allocation of the Community Development Block Grant
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funds; approximately $120,000 were allocated with special
emphasis on Tustin youth, perhaps a means to avoid
future graffiti expense.
Asked staff for a report regarding the SunCal default on
the Tustin properties and how dire the situation may be.
Reminded everyone that the Community Foundation
sponsors a Pancake Breakfast in association with the Egg
Hunt on March 22.
Noted that Bob Stiens, on behalf of the Tustin Community
Foundation, spoke at the Council meeting about accepting
applications on March 1St for grants that will be awarded in
May.
Nielsen Stated he attended the Library groundbreaking; it is very
nice to see the project moving forward after many years of
planning and effort on the part of lots of people.
Stated he attended his first OCTA Citizens Advisory
Committee meeting, chaired by Jeff Thompson, who was
kind enough to guide Chair Nielsen through the meeting
which was very enlightening.
Offered congratulations to the McCharles House, the
recipient of this historic recognition that was well-deserved;
he was honored to be asked to make that presentation;
anyone who hasn't visited the restaurant recently should
do so; the improvements are very impressive.
9:30 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Tuesday, March 20 8, at 7:00 p.m. in
the City Council Chamber at 0 C ter ial Way.
Johht~Jielsen
Chairperson
Izabeth A. Binsack
Planning Commission Secretary
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