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SPECIAL MEETING
TOUR OF SOUTHWEST TUSTIN
4:00 P.M. - 6:00 P.M.
LEFT CITY HALL AT 4:20 P.M.
TOUR DESTINATIONS:*
14071 Newport Avenue, Retail Center, 4:15 p.m.
14552 Newport Avenue, Arbor Walk, 4:45 p.m.
14772 Newport Avenue, Family/Youth Center, 5:15 p.m.
1400 Mitchell Avenue, Frontier Park, 5:45 p.m.
*Arrival/Departure times are approximate.
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 11, 2008
7:02 p.m. CALL TO ORDER
Given PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioners Puckett and 1. SEATING OF COMMISSIONERS PUCKETT AND
Thompson sworn in by THOMPSON.
Mayor Jerry Amante
7:05 p.m. Due to technical difficulties, a brief recess was called.
7:10 p.m. Audio was restored, and the meeting was reconvened.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chair Nielsen
Chair Pro Tem Puckett
Commissioners Kozak, Murray, Thompson
Staff present Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
David Kendig, Deputy City Attorney
Dana Ogdon, Assistant Community Development Director
Scott Reekstin, Senior Planner
Justina Willkom, Senior Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
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None
PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
Commissioner Thompson 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -FEBRUARY 28, 2008,
asked that the item be PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
pulled; approved, with one
minor modification
Commissioner Nielsen 3. 2008 GENERAL PLAN ANNUAL REPORT.
asked that the item be
pulled for discussion; California State Law requires each city to adopt a
authorized staff to forward to comprehensive, long-term general plan for its
City Council for consideration physical development and any land outside its
boundaries which bears a relationship to its
planning activities. Section 65400(b) of the
Government Code requires that the City's planning
agency provide an annual report to the City Council
on the status of the General Plan and progress in its
implementation.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission review and authorize
staff to forward the Annual Report on the Status of
the Tustin General Plan to the City Council for
consideration.
It was moved by Murray, seconded by Kozak, to pull both
items for discussion. Motion carried 5-0.
Thompson Asked that a correction be made on page 11 to remove the
language "soften the massing on the north elevations" to
"other historical materials."
It was moved by Thompson, seconded by Puckett, to
approve the minutes of February 26, 2008, with that
modification. Motion carried 5-0.
Nielsen Asked if other members of the Commission had any
questions.
Thompson Requested an explanation of the Regional Housing
significance to the City and the objectives that were met;
and, asked what might happen if there is a gap and the
goals are not achieved.
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Willkom Stated there was a revised table provided to the
Commission that shows the correct total of units that have
been constructed as of December 31, 2007; the Regional
Housing Needs (RHNA) assessment is the number
assigned by the Southern California Association of
Governments (SCAG) to the City; those numbers are
goals that the City would need to achieve; Table 2
describes what has been constructed and also the units
that have been entitled; comparing the two tables, there
are other units at the Legacy that have not been included;
for example, the 192 units at the Village of Hope are
nearing completion but not yet considered complete and
were not included in the report; the same would apply to
the Orange County Social Services Agency; 90 beds have
been approved for abused and neglected children, but that
number cannot yet be reflected; there are units required of
the Tustin Legacy Community Partners which are not
reflected; the City actually has proposed more units than
are required.
Thompson Noted that Table 3 represents incredible progress.
Kozak Questioned whether or
regarding the units that
included in the table.
Willkom
not a footnote could be added
are nearing completion but not
Answered in the affirmative.
Nielsen Referred to Goal 3, Congestion Management Program;
and, asked if staff could provide any specific data
regarding the time period.
Willkom Answered in the affirmative.
Nielsen Asked if Public Works monitors that program.
Willkom Answered in the affirmative.
Nielsen Queried whether or not that monitoring is in conjunction
with other agencies.
Willkom Responded that staff can provide further information.
Nielsen Referred to Goal 4 regarding traffic signal coordination;
and, asked if that aspect has been completed.
Willkom Replied that staff will need to bring a status report back to
the Commission.
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Nielsen Referred to Goal 12 regarding the CLG; and, asked for
verification that City is in compliance.
Reekstin Responded that the City is still a CLB; no official change
has taken place; there has been no feedback from the
state.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Thompson, to
receive and file the report and to forward the report to the
City Council. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Adopted Resolution No. 4. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 07-024
4085 REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH
A MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR THE TUSTIN
FINANCIAL CENTER. THIS PROJECT IS
LOCATED AT 17772, 27782, 17822, 17852, AND
17862 EAST 17T" STREET IN THE PLANNED
COMMUNITY BUSINESS PARK ZONING
DISTRICT.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution
No. 4085 approving Conditional Use Permit 07-024.
7:32 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Ogdon Presented the staff report.
Murray Asked for clarification regarding past deviations for similar
projects.
Ogdon Referred to the Market Place and Legacy as developments
that requested master sign programs.
Thompson Asked if the signs are to be illuminated.
Ogdon Suggested that would be a question for the applicant.
Thompson Asked if temporary "For Lease" signs are covered by this
program or would be a separate category.
Ogdon Indicated temporary signs are a different category.
Thompson Asked if there are signs that will be removed and replaced
by the proposed signs.
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Ogdon Responded that the site has many signs that will be
replaced.
Thompson Asked if the signs would include contrasting colors from
the existing signs.
Ogdon Answered that the signs will be shades of grey and white,
identical to the existing buildings.
Thompson Asked if 17th Street has any specific plan similar to First
Street.
Ogdon Responded that the reference to a master sign program
and a specific plan would be more related to larger
developments such as Vestar and unifying the signs to the
architecture of the site; when there are many property
owners along a street, it is difficult to reach agreement on a
sign program for the entire street.
Thompson Suggested that there is no unifying sign program for First
Street.
Ogdon Answered in the affirmative; added that the Master Sign
Plan Code indicates that a single development project
must be at least 30,000 square feet of building and at least
one acre project size; and, noted that any new
developments fitting that criteria would be required to have
a sign program.
Nielsen Asked if the landscaping shown in the renderings would be
included as part of the project.
Ogdon Replied that the sign program is separate from the
development plan for the site and landscaping is not a part
of the application.
Nielsen Stated the easternmost entryway from 17th Street into the
financial center has a monument sign on the northwest
corner of the entryway; and, indicated that there seemed to
be line-of-sight materials for other signs but not that
particular sign, which seems to be the one that would
create the most problems.
Director Stated that pages and 11 and 12 of the exhibit show the
line-of-sight.
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Ogdon Noted that the exhibit shows line-of-sight; however, prior to
issuance of building permits, staff would make sure that
requirement is met.
Nielsen Asked if it would be a requirement that the minimum be
met.
Director Stated that would specifically be required at the time of
issuing a building permit.
Nielsen Invited the applicant to the lectern.
Garrick Batt, Sign Stated he was available to answer any questions the
Specialist Corporation Commission might have.
Thompson Requested that Mr. Batt respond to the illumination
question posed earlier.
Mr. Batt Replied that the two property identification monuments will
have illuminated letters; the sign itself will not be
illuminated; the three monuments for tenant advising are
not illuminated in any way; canopy signs will be placed
over the northern door to each of the buildings which will
be illuminated downward but will not project light forward
on onto the street or surrounding area.
Murray Asked for elaboration regarding the type of lighting.
Mr. Butt Replied that the lighting is known as neon channel
lettering; the lettering has tubes of neon behind; the glow
of the neon is projected on the background surrounding
the letters; what will be seen at night is a nice halo effect
around the letters.
Puckett Suggested that the neon is protected.
Mr. Butt Responded in the affirmative.
Director Added that the general requirements prohibit exposed
lamps of any kind, and specifically exposed neon.
7:50 p.m. The Public Hearing closed.
Commission It was the consensus of the Commission that this is a fitting
project for the Meredith Financial Center.
It was moved by Murray, seconded by Kozak, to adopt
Resolution No. 4085.
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REGULAR BUSINESS:
Received and filed the report 5. FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION; TOUR OF
and provided direction to SOUTHWEST TUSTIN.
staff
The discussion provides a forum for the
Commission to generally discuss the tour and to
make recommendations for future tours.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission receive this report
and provide direction to staff.
Commission It was the consensus of the Commission that the tour was
very informative, and they look forward to the next one.
Director Indicated that staff would like to schedule workshops prior
to the March 25, 2008, Planning Commission meeting,
beginning at 5:30 p.m., rather than schedule another tour
for that date. A Business License workshop would be
scheduled at 5:30 p.m. and a Building Code Update and
Issues workshop at 6:00 p.m.
Commission Indicated that workshops beginning at 5:30 would be
acceptable.
STAFF CONCERNS
8. REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE MARCH
4, 2008, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Director reported The Prospect Village amendment to the planned
community, upon recommendation of the Planning
Commission, was approved; the second reading will take
place at the March 18, 2008, City Council meeting.
The appeal of the Planning Commission's denial of the
project at 740 EI Camino Real was continued to the March
18, 2008, City Council meeting.
The project at 170 EI Camino Real was approved; the
resolution was amended, and adopted, to include the five
recommendations from the Planning Commission related
to the architecture on that project; the City Council
appreciated the Commission's hard work on the project;
the applicant and architect have already met with staff and
have begun developing revised plans.
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Director continued A letter was prepared and signed by the Mayor relating to
the City's concerns regarding the proposed amendments
to the Airport Environs Land Use Plan.
The Director congratulated the two reappointed members
of the Planning Commission.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thompson Stated his appreciation and thanks for being reappointed
to the Planning Commission.
Asked if staff could schedule an overview of the goals and
guidelines of the Old Town Parking Study to help the
Commissioners understand the study in context with the
various applications the Planning Commission will be
reviewing.
Indicated that he was traveling through Old Towne Orange
over the weekend; there were large banners across some
of the main streets advertising an on-the-house permit
program; this appears to be some sort of incentive
program; perhaps this is something the City of Tustin could
explore regarding improvements to Old Town Tustin.
Thanked staff for the memorandum responding to the
Commission's questions regarding the Mitigation
Monitoring Report; he looks forward to further clarifications
from Public Works.
Thanked staff for the tour of Southwest Tustin and the
insights into the development of that area.
Kozak Congratulated Chair Pro Tem Puckett and Commissioner
Thompson on their reappointments to the Commission.
Thanked staff for the opportunity to attend the California
Preservation Federation workshop at Cal Poly last Friday;
it was held on the Lyle Center for Regenerative Studies
which is itself an interesting location in view of the projects
and studies that are underway by the faculty and students;
the primary topic of the workshop had to do with
preserving modern monuments; it was very informative in
terms of classification of different styles of development by
area and period and the contribution development has
made to the history of the different communities; Survey
LA was there, along with Pasadena and Palm Springs; Los
Angeles has 880,000 individual parcels in the city, 463
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square miles, and every parcel will be reviewed, analyzed,
and cataloged; a disc of all the presentations was provided
and can be shared with staff and the members of the
Commission, in interested.
Thanked staff for the agenda items this evening; and,
apologized for being unable to make the tour.
Referred to page 90 of the Old Town Parking Study
regarding the Action Plan; and, asked what action has
been taken.
Director Answered that staff can bring that information back to the
Commission.
Kozak Asked for information regarding the SunCal properties in
Tustin.
Director Indicated that staff will be preparing a memorandum
highlighting the facts related to the two properties, the
entitlements, and the status of those properties; SunCal
no longer has an interest in either property; acourt-
appointed trustee is acting as the asset manager.
Murray Congratulated Chair Pro Tem Puckett and Commissioner
Thompson.
Thanked staff for the tour, a great job by everyone.
Offered special accolades to Barbara at the Youth Center;
she did a great job providing a tour of the Center.
Referred to the article in the Orange County Register
regarding the recent clean-up project by the Tustin Pride
Committee.
Reminded everyone that the Easter Egg Hunt takes place
March 22"d at the Tustin Sports Park beginning at 8:30
a.m.
Puckett Congratulated Commission Thompson on his
reappointment to the Commission; it is an honor to have
been reappointed and to serve with the gentlemen of the
Planning Commission.
Thanked Kim Leason for the work of Tustin Pride.
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Puckett continued Thanked Scott Reekstin for the tour of Southwest Tustin.
Noted the Tustin Community Foundation sponsors the
Pancake Breakfast that Commissioner Murray mentioned;
Erin Nielsen, the Executive Director of the Foundation, has
done a great job putting this Breakfast together.
Wished everyone a Happy St. Patrick's Day and Happy
Easter.
Nielsen Congratulated Chair Pro Tem Puckett and Commissioner
Thompson.
Stated the Pancake Breakfast begins at 8:00 a.m.; tickets
are $5.00 for adults and $4.00 for children.
Noted he attended the ribbon-cutting at Beach Pit B-B-Q;
and, encouraged everyone to visit this landmark building
and have some great food.
Asked that a workshop be scheduled regarding the Old
Town Parking Study.
Asked if there are any regulations regarding smoke shops
in relation to distance from school.
Director Answered in the negative; smoke shops are considered a
retail use within the City.
Nielsen Stated there ,is a shop very close to Tustin High School
that concerns him; and, asked staff to research whether
there are ordinances in surrounding cities.
8:16 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Tuesday, March 25, 2008, at 7:00 p.m. in
the City Council Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
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