HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 03-25-08SPECIAL MEETING -WORKSHOPS:
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6:00 P.M. -BUILDING CODE
were held in the City Council Confierence Room.
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 25, 2008
7:10 p.m. CALL TO ORDER
Given PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Nielsen
Chair Pro Tem Puckett
Commissioners Kozak, Murray, Thompson
Staff present Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
David Kendig, Deputy City Attorney
Dana Ogdon, Assistant Community Development Director
Terry Lutz, Principal Engineer
Scott Reekstin, Senior Planner
Amy Thomas, Senior Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
None PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
Approved 1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -MARCH 11, 2008, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Murray, to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
None PUBLIC HEARINGS
REGULAR BUSINESS
Approved 2. TUSTIN HISTORIC REGISTER NOMINATION - 535 PACIFIC
STREET.
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RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission approve the nomination of 535
Pacific Street for an Historic Register Plaque.
Thompson Recused himself and left the dais; he lives within 500 feet of this property.
Reekstin Presented a brief staff report.
Kozak Stated he was pleased to see another property in Old Town come before
the Commission for placement in the Historical Register.
Puckett Agreed with Commissioner Kozak and moved the approval of the plaque
for 535 Pacific Street.
Murray Seconded the motion; and, indicated he went by the property and was
impressed by the appearance of this residence.
Nielsen Added that this is a wonderful program; it is good to see that staff is
working with the Tustin Conservancy and the Tustin Historical Society in
recognizing these properties in Old Town.
Motion carried 4-0.
Thompson Returned to the dais.
Received and filed 3. OLD TOWN PARKING STUDY.
On February 19, 2008, the Tustin City Council received the Old
Town Parking Study and directed staff to begin implementing the
parking alternatives discussed within that document. On March
11, 2008, the Tustin Planning Commission received a copy of
the Old Town Parking Study as background to support its future
involvement in the review of related implementing actions. At
that time, the Planning Commission requested additional
information and a presentation on the matter.
RECOMMENDATION:
Receive and file the report.
Ogdon Presented the staff report.
Rock Miller, KOA Presented the consultant's PowerPoint show.
Corporation
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Ogdon Added that the Parking Study is a planning document and does not waive
the City's parking requirements, change the in-lieu fees structure, etc. but
simply sets a direction for staff to go; in anticipation of bringing some of
those implementation measures to the Commission, sharing the study
ensures the Commission's understanding of Council's direction.
Murray Complimented Mr. Miller on the Parking Study, indicating he has seen
other studies but this was among the best.
Asked why the timeframe of 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. was used in the
occupancy counts.
Mr. Miller Stated it is generally known that prior to 9:00 a.m. parking problems in
commercial areas do not become evident; by 11:00 p.m. the parking in
the residential areas has stabilized; generally speaking, it is not
necessary to exceed those hours in order to do a full analysis.
Murray Asked if the two-hour intervals were the result of the two-hour timeframe
for parking.
Mr. Miller Responded that the procedure involves atwo-hour scan of an area to
determine what the .overall parking demand is; in those areas where
parking is heavily used, supplemental studies are performed only in those
areas.
Murray Asked when parking structures are found to be viable alternatives.
Mr. Miller Indicated that parking structures are generally recommended when a
density-informed development requires parking needs to be concentrated
in order to maintain more buildings; that may not happen in Old Town; if
the City sets in place some of the mechanisms that are being
recommended as alternatives, that issue can be revisited; in-lieu fees are
generally based upon the need to acquire land if it is there for facilities;
based upon the parking opportunities and current density pattern, parking
structures do not seem necessary at this time.
Puckett Asked if there are numbers available regarding the percentage of
utilization for the existing parking structure.
Mr. Miller Responded that the Stevens Square structure was lightly used except
during the noon hour of the restaurant immediately adjacent to the
structure.
Puckett Suggested that the Prospect and Main lots are underutilized but that will
change when the Village is occupied.
Mr. Miller Indicated it was his understanding that those parking areas were factored
into the parking requirements for Prospect Village and will be more than
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adequate to meet the needs of that development; it was recommended
that the City take a careful look at parking for major developments, such
as an entire block being converted to a different land use.
Puckett Echoed Commissioner Murray's comment that this is a well-done parking
study.
Kozak Thanked Mr. Miller for the informative report and presentation.
Asked staff if KOA's recommendations regarding revisions to the Code
would require a separate set of parking standards to improve the flexibility
for Old Town.
Director Replied that over the next year the Planning Commission should see
these recommendations brought forward; it is not possible to predict a
time frame at this time.
Kozak Suggested that in order to accelerate the attraction to Old Town it might
be possible to advance these items.
Thompson Asked if the 1,005 required parking spaces number was based upon
Code calculations or upon what was observed in the field work.
Mr. Miller Answered that number was based on KOA's field work; the total amount
of cars parking during peak hours was 1,005; that would take into account
the concept of shared parking; a Code parking demand was not done,
because the total amount of parking observed was substantially below
what the Code might have required had it been applied.
Thompson Questioned to the projected future volumes referred to as more than 140
spaces of surplus parking; and, asked what that calculation was based
on.
Mr. Miller Replied that the number was based upon a Code calculation applied to
the proposed uses with appropriate discounts applied to account for
shared parking.
Thompson Asked where Old Town should be from a utilization standpoint.
Mr. Miller Answered that 85 percent across the board would not be the optimum
because that would be perceived as crowded everywhere; individual
areas should not be above 85 percent; selected prime areas could be
above 85 percent; the alternatives are larger parking fields or areas
where a person knows parking will be available; out-lying spaces should
always be available.
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Thompson Asked how it will be possible to know as projects are approved along the
way when the parking standards are too lax and different regulations are
necessary.
Director Indicated that this is one area where Traffic Engineering is hard and fast;
there are no easy answers or one best way; there may be a point where
additional parking will be necessary in the Old Town area; Old Town is
unique in that no one wants to see a sea of parking by a building, and a
suburban parking standard may not be appropriate; it is necessary to be
thoughtful in the process; this Parking Study is a useful tool in that
process.
Nielsen Added that Old Town has unique parking issues that do not exist
anywhere else in Tustin; any development in Old Town requires flexibility
and parking cannot be specifically quantified and codified as to exactly
what will happen; the options suggested in the Parking Study are
excellent; it is very difficult to plan for the next 50 years in Old Town as
opposed to other areas; different options will provide the flexibility
necessary.
Thompson Suggested that the statistics be updated in two or three years; being
cognizant of the decision-making when jumps occur in utilization that
affect the land use decisions that are made by the Planning Commission.
Nielsen Reiterated that it is hard to know when that point has been reached; it is
impossible to know what the developments will be in Old Town twenty
years from now and what the issues are going to be; the options provided
in this study will be helpful; staff will continue to be diligent regarding
mitigation measures as progress occurs.
Director Stated that the larger projects that may be realized in Old Town could be
the easier projects allowing the benefit of performing a parking study/
traffic analysis associated with those projects through the environmental
review process; the more difficult process will be the small infill
developments.
Nielsen Restated that it is not easy to quantify future issues; keeping Old Town as
vibrant as possible and as aesthetically pleasing as possible is the goal.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to receive and file the
report. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS
4. REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE MARCH 18, 2008, CITY
COUNCIL MEETING.
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Director reported The City Council approved the MCAS Tustin Mitigation Monitoring Report
and the 2007 General Plan Annual Report.
The City Council approved the conditional use permit requesting a dental
office at 740 EI Camino Real and directed the applicant to submit for a
design review that must be approved by the Planning Commission.
The City Council held the second reading of the Prospect Village planned
community district regulations; those regulations will become effective
shortly; Prospect Village should be submitting an application for a master
sign program soon; that application will be presented before the Planning
Commission.
City Hall will be open every Friday, commencing March 28, 2008.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thompson Stated he attended the Easter Egg Hunt and thought it was a big
success; the swift clean-up was amazing.
Noted he attended the Easter Prayer Breakfast sponsored by RBF
Consulting; Councilmember Jim Palmer was one of the officials in
attendance.
Indicated that he was nominated and approved for the OCTA Go Local
Committee.
Referred to previous discussions regarding commercial guidelines for Old
Town; and, asked that a timeframe be established for the next step in that
procedure.
Director Stated that staff received a draft copy of interim guidelines from the
Redevelopment Agency; those guidelines will be reviewed internally and
then presented to the Planning Commission.
Thompson Referred to the letter from Broadmoor Park relating to the Southwest
Tustin Tour; and, asked if staff would be responding to that letter.
Director Answered in the affirmative.
Kozak Welcomed new staff members Cari Meyer, Assistant Planner, and Amy
Thomas, Senior Planner.
Thanked staff for the workshops and Mr. Rock Miller and Assistant
Director Dana Ogdon for their presentations regarding the Old Town
Parking Study.
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Murray Thanked staff for the very informative workshops.
Thanked his fellow Commissioners for the discussion of the Old Town
Parking Study.
Asked for the status of the Drug Emporium.
Director Indicated that Big Lots has requested a tenant improvement for that
facility.
Murray Complimented the City's Community Services Commission for the Easter
Egg Hunt and also Chair Nielsen and Chair Pro Tem Puckett for their
work through the Tustin Community Foundation.
Puckett Noted the Easter celebration was a huge success, thanks to Dave Wilson
and his staff and also to Erin Nielsen, Executive Director of the
Community Foundation, for putting the Pancake Breakfast together; twice
as many breakfasts could have been sold and the Foundation will
prepare to do that next year; the funds provided substantial income for
the Foundation that will be used in the grant process.
Nielsen Thanked staff for the workshops; it is always good to see that staff is
performing outreach to the community in an effort to provide better
customer service.
Indicated he had a fine time at the Easter Egg Roll and the Pancake
Breakfast; and, thanked the many volunteers who helped with the
Breakfast.
Thanked Kathy Hall for providing a letter to the Planning Commission
regarding Broadmoor Homes in Tustin; he was pleased to hear that staff
will be responding to some of the issues presented; the majority of the
letter related to the architecture of the patio homes in Broadmoor with a
nice dissertation regarding the designs referred to as "MidCentury
Modern."
Congratulated Commissioner Thompson on his appointment to the Go
Local Committee for OCTA.
Stated he looks forward to design guidelines coming forward for Old
Town Commercial; anything staff can do to move that forward would be
appreciated; and, added that the Old Town Residential Guidelines should
perhaps also be updated.
Requested that a tour be scheduled for the Laurelwood, Peppertree,
Tustin Meadows, and Summerfield communities.
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Director Asked if the Commission would like the tour scheduled for the next
meeting.
Nielsen Answered that whatever is convenient for staff when there is a light
agenda would be fine.
Thompson Requested a start time of 5:30 p.m.
Director Stated the tour would be scheduled to occur before the next Planning
Commission meeting, April 8, 2008.
Nielsen Asked that staff provide information other cities may have regarding
smoke shops in the vicinity of schools.
8:10 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is scheduled for
Tuesday, April 8, 2008, at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chamber at 300
Centennial Way.
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Jo ielsen
Chairperson
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E izabeth A. Binsack
Planning Commission Secretary
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