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MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 24, 2009
7:00 p.m. CALL TO ORDER
Given INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Director swore in 1. SEATING OF RE-APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS
Commissioners
Kasalek, Kozak, and
Murray
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Puckett
Chair Pro Tem Kozak
Commissioners Kasalek, Murray, Thompson
Staff present Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director
David Kendig, Assistant City Attorney
Dana Ogdon, Assistant Community Development Director
Doug Stack, Assistant Director of Public Works
Doug Anderson, Transportation/Development Services Manager
Justina Willkom, Principal Planner
Scott Reekstin, Senior Planner
Amy Thomas, Senior Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
None PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
Approved 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - FEBRUARY 10, 2009,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Thompson, seconded by Kasalek, to approve
the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
None PUBLIC HEARINGS
REGULAR BUSINESS
Received and filed 3. MCAS TUSTIN MITIGATION MONITORING AND
REPORTING PROGRAM
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The annual review and program memorandum provides
the following:
a. A general description of the project's status,
including actual or projected completion dates, if
known.
b. The current status for each mitigation measure.
RECOMMENDATION:
Receive and file this report.
Willkom Presented the staff report.
Murray Asked if staff has figures concerning vacancy rates for homes
currently completed.
Willkom Answered that there is no vacancy rate solely for MCAS Tustin;
the State Department of Finance provides Citywide figures; the
City is currently at two percent.
Murray Asked if current changes in social services will impact completion
of the Tustin Family Campus.
Willkom Replied that construction is progressing; staff has heard nothing
from Orange County Social Services that any delay is expected.
Murray Asked if the current economy will impact the 192 beds at the
Orange County Rescue Mission.
Director Stated that soon after the Mission opened it held between 80
and 90 occupants; staff will contact the Mission to find out what
the current occupancy is.
Murray Asked if the City has any remaining projects with Laing.
Willkom Indicated that all the projects under John Laing Homes were
completed.
Thompson Noted that he took a tour of the Rescue Mission facilities in
December; at that time, they were about 50-60 percent occupied;
the intention was to gradually fill the facility to allow for proper
management at capacity.
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Thompson continued Referred to the trip budget table summarized under 3-3, page
124, and how the trip budget for the overall development burn
was accumulated.
Anderson Stated that Public Works has entitled development equivalent to
55,481 ADTs, compared with the overall approval of 216,440 at
buildout which amounts to about 26 percent.
Thompson Referred to Table 4-3 that summarizes all of the on-site arterial
circulation improvements that suggests most of the infrastructure
is in place; and, asked staff to identify which ones are not.
Anderson Referred to revised Table 4-4, page 128, which identifies the on-
site ADT development thresholds and the interior roadways that
will be added, improvements to existing roadways, and
construction of new roadways; at the 55,000 rate, Phase 1 has
been completed; everything has been constructed and
completed with the exception of the second item, Barranca
Parkway, Tustin Ranch Road to Jamboree Road; that road is
substantially complete and open for beneficial use to the public;
there are ~a few punch-list items to be worked out with the
contractor to complete the project; much of the next. group down
the page has not been started, some are complete; the third
item, Moffett Drive, has been completed between the Peters
Canyon Channel easterly to Harvard Avenue; the phasing is
based upon the development that occurs.
Thompson Referred to pages 57-58 under Measures HIST 3 and 4 which
suggest an update since the last report; one of the hangars is
considered not viable by the City; the other hangar is considered
not viable by the County; and, questioned whether this means a
decision has been made that neither of the hangars is to remain.
Director Suggested that nothing has really changed from the last report;
staff is providing as much information as there is available at this
time; in 1999 the Memorandum of Agreement for the disposal
and reuse of MCAS Tustin required a process; the process was
not only for the City's hangar but also the County hangar to
determine the economic viability for adaptive reuse; it was
determined that the City's hangar was not economically viable;
the County went through the same process; the difference
between that marketing study and any mitigation measures if it
were to be removed would be another process; there are some
County processes that are ongoing to determine whether or not
that hangar could still be used; if the County hangar were to be
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removed, the same process would be required, i.e. the written
history, illustrative history, interpretive video, etc.
Thompson Stated his understanding that effort is ongoing in evaluating the
viability of at least one of the hangars.
Director Indicated that it was her understanding that it is not economically
viable for adaptive reuse; that formal determination does not
mean that it could not be used.
Thompson Asked if there would be further updates in this regard with
recommendations to the City Council.
Director Answered that would go through the County of Orange for the
County facility.
Thompson Stated that his concern was losing an historic resource; the
hangars are key landmarks; he understands the economic
challenge involved.
Requested that future updates could be shown either in bold or
underline to pinpoint the items that have changed from year to
year.
Kasalek Added that she also believes it would be tragic to lose the
hangars.
Asked about the traffic flow in The District and what ongoing
studies are being made in that regard.
Anderson Answered that when the Tustin Ranch Road access through the
Legacy to Warner Avenue back to Jamboree was completed
there was a lot of traffic that was displaced from the
Jamboree/Barranca intersection; it sometimes took three to four
signals to get through that intersection to make a left turn from
Barranca eastbound to northbound Jamboree; when the shortcut
around the shopping center was opened, people started cutting
through the shopping center; there is a lot of regional traffic
driving through; there were many stop signs on Park Avenue to
attract people who were there for shopping and the other
services available; the Tustin Ranch Road route and the
Barranca routes were to be used by the commuters; the traffic
flow is being monitored on a regular basis; recently the traffic
signal at JamboreeM/arner Avenue ramp was opened from a
flashing red to a regular green cycle so that turns are
coordinated; that has facilitated about 20 percent more traffic
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through the shortcut off Tustin Ranch Road; the traffic signal is
working better for both Tustin and Irvine; the same may be
implemented at Tustin Ranch Road and Wamer Avenue which is
currently on red flash to accommodate the Navy contractors that
use the gate for the clean-up effort next to the southern hangar;
changes are being made as the patterns are established.
Kasalek Asked for more information regarding the Barranca entrance at
the pedestrian crossing by the entertainment area; there are
times when the traffic is backed up onto Barranca.
Anderson Stated that the City is working closely with Irvine; Irvine controls
that intersection; there was a lot of traffic that was not anticipated
at that intersection; staff has been working with the developer
who will be increasing the pocket lengths on both the left turns to
accommodate more vehicles and to remove vehicles out of the
through queues, thereby opening up some of the congestion;
concerning the pedestrian movement, it is approximately 160
feet across that intersection; when the button is pushed, the
pedestrians take priority per State guidelines.
Kozak Indicated that he is also concerned about losing the hangars; at
the Mayor's Inaugural Dinner, he was seated with
representatives of the developers who are working with the
County; this is not official, but a representative indicated that
there are ongoing constructive conversations with the County;
the process is moving slowly due to the financial budgetary
impacts the County is facing.
Thanked staff for the information regarding the hangars and
other aspects of the reports, especially regarding traffic and
circulation at The Legacy.
Puckett Asked if there was any dateline regarding the completion of
Tustin Ranch Road.
Anderson Referred to page 4 of the report; the roadway is being designed
in two phases; the first phase is from Warner to Valencia; the
second phase is from Valencia over Edinger to Walnut Avenue;
both those projects are in final design; it is hoped that final
design will be reached by middle of summer this year; after that
the projects will go out to bid; construction could begin by the
end of the year; if so, there would be a 12- to 18-month window
depending on the weather and other elements.
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Kasalek Asked if there was a problem regarding the water table when
Tustin Ranch Road was built over Walnut.
Anderson Replied that the water table concerns were at the rail station on
the south side of the railroad tracks just outside of Peppertree
and also on Barranca near the channels; soil investigations have
been done and no problems have been found.
It was moved by Kasalek, seconded by Kozak, to receive and
file. Motion carried 5-0.
Received and filed 4. 1990 AND 2003 HISTORICAL SURVEYS
The City of Tustin completed surveys of its historic
resources in 1990 and in 2003. With the reassignment of
the City's cultural and historic resources responsibilities
from the former Historic Resource Committee to the
Planning Commission, it is important for the
Commission to understand the differences between the
two surveys and how they are used in making
recommendations and decisions regarding historic
resources.
RECOMMENDATION:
Receive and file this report.
Reekstin Presented the staff report.
Puckett Asked if staff had any idea how many cities have such a
thorough report of the historic district.
Reekstin Responded that the larger cities probably do not have such a
survey; smaller communities that value historic preservation
have similar surveys.
Murray Complimented staff on an excellent report; and, asked when
funding might be available for future surveys.
Reekstin Replied the state makes grant funds available every year for
which the City can apply; an update to the survey would be an
eligible project; it is also necessary to have the staff resources
available to devote to such a project, since a matching
requirement is part of the grant; the amount of the grants has
gone down; the City was fortunate to receive the grant amount
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we did for this survey; at that time there was only one consultant
interested in doing the survey for the amount we received.
Murray Asked if there has been any thought toward computerizing this
information, perhaps putting it on a pdf.
Reekstin Indicated it would be possible to put the documents on the City's
website in a pdf form.
Murray Suggested that would be a very good resource to have available
online.
Thompson Stated that he agreed with that suggestion.
Asked is there was any tracking mechanism the City uses, such
as the Certificate of Appropriateness process, that could be tied
to the survey.
Reekstin Replied that a record of Certificates of Appropriateness is kept
and could be used; the annual report to SHPO has in the past
summarized additions, demolitions, etc. of historic resources;
however, it would probably be necessary to do a windshield
survey to ensure the structures are still there and appear to be in
the same condition as before.
Thompson Thanked staff for the overview.
Kasalek Agreed that this was a wonderful report; and, asked if properties
not represented have to wait until the next survey to be
considered.
Reekstin Stated that properties not in the survey would not automatically
be eligible; however, if residents believe their structure is historic,
staff would take a request to the City Council; the Council
developed the policy for the Mills Act and could make whatever
modifications might be necessary.
Director Added that within the Mills Act Program D-rated structures do not
conform to the policy; however, if someone were to modify such
a structure to a C or higher rating, staff probably would make a
positive recommendation to allow entry into a Mills Act
agreement; this would require restoration to what once was.
Kasalek Noted that she and Commissioner Kozak attended the historic
preservation workshop in San Clemente which was very
informative; San Clemente provides a lot of information on the
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website and has a series of brochures to enhance recognition of
the incentive program; this would be a great thing for Tustin; at
present, there is very little of this type of information on Tustin's
website.
Kozak Agreed that the San Clemente workshop was very helpful; while
he is cognizant of the budgetary restraints, he would like the
Planning Commission to work with staff to analyze any options
that might be available to include developments such as
Broadmoor from the 1960s; based on San Clemente's
information, perhaps there would be funding available through
National Park grants; he encourages enhancements to the City's
website to promote this important program; San Clemente also
includes commercial properties in their historic area.
Kasalek Added that San Clemente indicated they have 150 eligible
structures and 59 participants in the Mills Act; given the
comparatively small percentage of Tustin participants, perhaps a
workshop similar to San Clemente's would get the word out to
more residents.
Kozak Encouraged input from the Tustin Conservancy Foundation and
the Historical Society to develop his suggestions above.
It was moved by Kozak, seconded by Thompson, to receive and
file. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS
5. REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE FEBRUARY 17,
2009, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Director Congratulated the re-appointed Planning Commissioners.
Director continued Reported the City Council held the second reading of the
Shopping Cart Ordinance and Prospect Village Planned
Community; staff will be visiting other communities to bring some
of the best ideas from empirical data collected from those cities
back to the Planning Commission.
Added that one of the units at Prospect Village is in escrow.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thompson Stated his understanding there are funds in the economic
stimulus package designated toward programs such as the Block
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Program; there should be means and methods to evaluate how,
through preservation of the physical resources such as the
hangars, funds could be acquired to assist in the preservation.
Congratulated his fellow Commissioners on their re-
appointments to the Commission.
Noted that, despite all the harsh news regarding the economy,
he and his wife had to wait 45 minutes to have dinner at Lucite's;
this suggests the community continues to support local
businesses.
Murray Complimented staff on the excellent reports and wealth of
information provided to the Commission.
Referred to various articles that have been appearing in the
newspapers regarding foreclosures; and, asked if staff has a way
of tracking foreclosures in Tustin.
Director Answered that, on average, the City is faring better than most
other communities; staff is aware of the properties that are in
foreclosure or are bank-owned; staff is tracking these properties
from policing and code enforcement perspectives.
Murray Mentioned that the newspaper article regarding the high cost of
graffiti abatement is a big concern; perhaps it is time to revisit
ways of educating the public to ways of helping to alleviate this
problem.
Director Stated that she and Commissioner Kozak were speaking about
this earlier before the meeting; staff will bring a presentation to
the Planning Commission regarding the community-wide policing
on this issue; the City is embarking on a new program that staff
would like to share with the Commission.
Murray Offered his congratulations to his fellow Commissioners on their
re-appointments.
Reminded everyone that, even though there has been a lot of
rain, it is still important to conserve water.
Noted that he visited Kobe's on Red Hill Avenue; the food and
customer service are wonderful, and it is always crowded on
Friday nights.
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Kasalek Congratulated her fellow Commissioners; and, thanked the
Council for the re-appointment.
Noted that our City's website does a great job keeping things
current on community events; there is a link for a foreclosure
prevention workshop which might be something residents would
want to take advantage of.
Asked when the street sweeping restrictions take effect.
Director Stated that the ordinance was adopted and is in effect; the Field
Services/Public Works Department ordered the signs.
Anderson Indicated that the signs have not been installed yet on a Citywide
basis.
Kasalek Questioned whether this restriction would be Citywide and why
some signs are covered at this time.
Anderson Answered that this would be Citywide; some of the signs are
covered because they were older signs; once the entire length of
a street has been posted, all the signs will be visible.
Kasalek Added that she has been seeing a lot of parked cars on street
sweeping days; and, asked if enforcement would begin when the
signs are up.
Anderson
Answered in the affirmative.
Kozak Offered congratulations to his colleagues; stated it was an honor
to be re-appointed to the Commission; and, thanked Council
Member Nielsen and the Council for this opportunity.
Noted that he and his family visited Roma's in Old Town over the
weekend and had to wait 40 minutes for a table.
Thanked staff for the recommendation regarding a graffiti
presentation; it is important that the Commission be informed
regarding any new efforts and how the Commission and
community can help.
Asked if there will be a LAFCO-SOI report any time soon.
Director Stated that LAFCO (Local Agency Formation Commission) is
undertaking such a report; there is a pending hearing in March
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for the North Tustin area; that hearing will probably be continued
for one month; the two cities have been meeting to discuss
various issues between the two jurisdictions; staff will report
when more information becomes available.
Kozak Thanked staff for their hard work, including the traffic engineers,
community planners, and code enforcement.
Puckett Added to the Tustin restaurant news that both In-N-Out Burger
locations are booming.
Offered his congratulations to the re-appointed Commissioners;
and, added that he attended the interviews and was pleased to
see there were several qualified candidates, which indicates
Tustin is in good shape for years to come.
Congratulated Ken Eckman, Don Ropele, and Erin Moore for
their appointments to the Community Services Commission.
Noted that it was nice to see former Planning Commission Chair
John Nielsen in the audience.
Indicated that March 1 marks the end of his 34~' year in Tustin;
as a kid growing up in southeast Kansas, he had no idea he
would end up in California; his work brought him here; he could
not have picked a better place to live; he intends to spend many
more years here.
Reminded everyone that the Miss Tustin Pageant takes place
March 7 at Beckman High School.
8:15 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Tuesday, March 10, 2009, at 7:00 p.m. in the City
Council Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
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