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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 27, 2001
A PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP FOR AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WAS PRESENTED BY TIM SERLET, CITY
ENGINEER, AT 6:00 P.M. IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM BEHIND THE COUNCIL
CHAMBER.
7:02 p.m.
Given
All present
Staff present
Approved
Adopted Resolution No.
3792, as amended
7:04 p.m.
Ashabi
Kozak
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Deputy City Attorney
Doug Anderson, Senior Project Manager-Transportation
Karen Peterson, Senior Planner
Minoo Ashabi, Associate Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS -- None
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of August 13, 2001, Planning Commission
meeting.
Revised Minutes of July 23, 2001, Planning Commission
meeting.
It was moved by Davert, seconded by Jennings, to approve
the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CONTINUED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 00-035 AND
DESIGN REVIEW 00-041 A REQUEST FOR
AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH A MAJOR WIRELESS
FACILITY DESIGNED AS A FIFTY-EIGHT (58) FOOT
TALL DATE PALM TREE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER
OF AN EXISTING SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. THIS
PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 14861 FRANKLIN AVENUE IN
THE PLANNED COMMUNITY INDUSTRIAL (PC-IND)
ZONING DISTRICT.
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission adopt
Resolution No. 3792 approving Conditional Use Permit 00-
035 and Design Review 00-041.
The Public Hearing reopened.
Presented the staff report.
Suggested that initial noticing to tenants and property
owners should be included to be consistent with other
approved wireless applications.
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Peterson
Kozak
Pontious
Director
Pontious
Hamilton
Director
Ashabi
Hamilton
Ashabi
Davert
Director
Davert
Responded noticing was not included because the
applicant had proposed methods to eliminate interference
and the noticing did not seem necessary, but a condition
could be added; and, read the following into the record: "If
deemed necessary upon change of ownership or
frequency, mailed notices to property owners and/or
tenants within a 1000 foot radius of the site informing
them that the project was approved and providing
information as to how to contact the Federal
Communications Commission for complaints regarding
radio frequency interference shall be done. The applicant
and/or property owner shall provide written notification to
the City sixty (60) days in advance of a change of
ownership or frequency. The cost of said notification shall
be borne by the applicant and/or owner."
Noted this language is in Condition 3.7.
Noted that "or frequency" was not in Condition 3.7.
Stated the previous resolution approved at the last
meeting refers only to change of ownership.
Stated that including "or frequency" would be appropriate.
Noted that he works for a telecommunications company
which does not offer wireless service; therefore, he has no
conflict of interest; asked staff if there is a general master
plan for this telecommunications provider; stated his
understanding that there is a Nextel site at Tustin Ranch
Road and the I-5 freeway which is not a stealth project;
and, asked staff to address this.
Answered that Nextel has a facility on the Auto Center's
property which was approved in 1996; that project created
the impetus to establish a more restrictive major wireless
communications ordinance; staff included a five-year
review date; the City can request that the provider make
adjustments based on new technology; however, that is a
separate issue from the one the Commission is
considering this evening.
Indicated that a master plan was distributed at the last
meeting which identified three future locations for Nextel;
that plan was about a year old; a new master plan was
provided in Attachment C in this staff report and provides
a better view of existing and potential sites.
Asked if Site CA6649 is the only additional location in the
Nextel master plan.
Responded that there is one site at the I-5 at Red Hill and
one at Phase I of Tustin Ranch Estates.
Stated that co-location should be considered more
frequently; referred to the height of this project; asked if it
has become the policy for providers to build higher towers
to have an advantage over competitors; and, suggested
100 foot towers may be in the future.
Noted the City ordinance does not allow for 100 foot
towers.
Asked if date palms are taking the place of fan palms,
requiring five live trees be planted in the area; and, asked
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Pontious
Director
Jennings
Pontious
Steve Divney, Nextel
representative
Davert
Pontious
Davert
Hamilton
Director
Peterson
Kozak
Pontious
Director
Hamilton
whether a monopine might provide better co-location
possibilities.
Noted that a monopine would require more height.
Indicated there is also a distance requirement when co-
location occurs on the same facility.
Asked how high the monopine has to be.
Invited the applicant to answer that question.
Answered that the height depends upon the number of
servers and the critical factor is the vertical separation; the
rule of thumb in the industry is a 10-foot tip-to-tip
separation between providers which requires the
additional height.
Stated the revised resolution does not meet the intent of
the Commission's direction; stated he understands the
legal reasons involved; and, noted he hopes the
Commission can work toward limiting the proliferation of
these types of cell sites.
Suggested a review of the regulations in three to six
months.
Stated his appreciation for Nexters response to the
Commission's concerns.
Stated that the last two sites approved were almost 100
percent stealth; having more stealth locations is more
aesthetically acceptable; the 58-foot tree will have a
negative visual impact from the anticipated Base housing;
two or three stealth locations would be better than this
project.
Commented that several providers are designing stealth
locations, including Nextel; the Ordinance is written so
that only the major facilities come before the Planning
Commission; other sites are approved on the staff level.
Added that, based on concerns stated by Commissioner
Hamilton, the additional five trees were proposed by staff
to camouflage the structure.
Referring to Commissioner Hamilton's comments, asked if
a review period could be integrated as that section of the
Base property is developed.
Suggested that area of the Base is not projected to be
early in the development time line; by the time
development is scheduled, technology might be entirely
different.
Stated Condition 1.6 could be changed to indicate "Design
Review approval shall be reviewed by the Director of
Community Development on or after August 27 and/or
upon residential development at the Base."
Asked if it would be more advantageous for an applicant
to build a site that may need modification to provide
service now, or build two smaller stealth sites which would
require no modification.
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Divney
Answered that the task before the Commission is the
balancing--the difference being a big tower with no
proliferation or proliferation but kept stealthy; other sites in
the City provide the opportunity for co-location; for
example, Site CA6648 on the master plan is to be co-
located with PacBell at their central office.
Pontious
Asked Mr. Divney if he had other comments.
Divney
Stated that Condition 3.2 should read "date" palm rather
than "fan" palm; asked, regarding Condition 3.4, if the 48-
hour time frame could be amended since replacing these
trees this quickly is sometimes difficult.
Pontious
Agreed that the 48-hour time line should be amended.
Davert
Suggested "within a reasonable time as determined by the
Community Development Director" would be appropriate
language.
Divney
Stated that Nextel's request to strike Condition 1.8 and
l(d) in the Resolution in a letter dated August 24, 2001,
was based on the fact those items would require a Code
amendment which would be contrary to existing California
law; the Code already treats the carriers one way; if there
is to be an amendment, it should be through the proper
noticing and hearing channels.
Davert
Asked if Mr. Divney had seen the revised resolution and
whether or not he agrees with the contents.
Divney
Answered that this resolution creates a burden for Nextel
which has nothing to do with this specific property; Nextel
should not be more restricted than the Code requires; the
Resolution creates a duty that could be unknowingly
breached in the future.
Davert
Asked the City Attorney how Conditions 1.8 and 1.9 will
run with the land.
Holland
Responded that the idea behind the conditions is land use
related in terms of looking at other alternatives for future
applications that are consistent with what the Code
requires; the Ordinance is designed to encourage wireless
sites other than poles.
Davert
Asked if speculating on possible future applications is
appropriate for approval of this project.
Holland
Clarified that subsequent owners would be bound by
these conditions.
Divney
Stated that it is Nextel's position that the conditions have
nothing to do with this application and are contrary to case
law in California.
Davert
Asked Mr. Divney if this creates a serious problem for
Nextel since it will not effect what is being built for this
project.
Divney
Responded that precedent is the primary concern; and,
suggested there is a waiver argument to be made; Nextel
is being restricted without any benefit of the public
process that takes place when the Code is applied.
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Holland
Davert
Director
Kozak
Hamilton
Director
Hamilton
Divney
Holland
Hamilton
Director
Davert
Holland
Divney
Director
Jennings
Peterson
Indicated that staff asked the City Attorney to approve the
language of Condition 1.8 even before seeing Nextel's
letter; the Code has certain rules and regulations based
on land use issues but does not provide for all the
conceivable conditions that might be warranted.
Asked if it is anticipated that this condition will be included
for future applicants.
Stated that on numerous occasions these types of
conditions have been required on applications; most
monopalm applications are rejected by applicants before
reaching the Planning Commission due to lack of staff
support. Staff is recommending the conditions remain as
they are, or, if eliminated, staff would recommend denial
of the project.
Stated that after listening to the comments of the City
Attorney and staff, he could approve the application as
recommended by staff.
Asked what sort of weight the five-year review might carry.
Answered there is no way to predict that since no review
has been initiated at this point.
Emphasized that the Commission is not singling out
Nextel in any way; the Commission's concerns are the
aesthetic views of the City.
Stated that it is not Nexters intention to put up ugly sites;
and, asked for clarification regarding the master plan
referred to in Condition 1.8.
Replied that, read in context, this condition refers to future
applications.
Asked the reason for limiting to the area south of the I-5
and east of SR-55.
Answered that those are the only down areas involved.
Stated his concern regarding limiting future applications.
Noted this is not conditioning a future application, but
indicates this is a major facility within this area; the
geographic area is the hinge for requiring evidence of
having looked at alternatives.
Asked why it is necessary to make it a condition of
approval in this application.
Indicated that staff is only recommending approval of this
project to avoid proliferation of the major facilities in the
future; quite possibly no monopalm would be necessary if
there were other stealth facilities throughout the City;
Nextel is reaping the benefit of this high facility; staff's
intention is to limit additional monopalms.
Asked if language should be added clarifying the time
frame regarding the master plan.
Provided the following language beginning with the last
sentence: "At the time another application for a major
facility is submitted... ".
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Jennings
Holland
7:52 p.m.
Adopted Resolution No.
3798 and Resolution No.
3799, as modified
7:54 p.m.
Peterson
Jennings
Peterson
Davert
Peterson
Kozak
Peterson
Kozak
Peterson
Commented that Condition 3.4 should specify removal of
dead trees within a reasonable time frame.
Referred to earlier language covering that requirement.
The Public Hearing closed.
It was moved by Davert to adopt Resolution 3792 as
modified, seconded by Kozak. Motion carried 5-0.
LARGE FAMILY DAY CARE 01-019 A REQUEST FOR
AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH A LARGE FAMILY
DAY CARE HOME, CARING FOR UP TO FOURTEEN
(14) CHILDREN. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 1431
SAN JUAN STREET IN THE MULTIPLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL (R-3 2700) ZONING DISTRICT.
Recommendation:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3798 approving the Final Negative Declaration for
the project.
2. That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3799 approving Large Family Day Care 01-019.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
Asked if the pad for the additional employee will require
removal of the fence.
Answered affirmatively; and, added that the applicant
intends to repair and replace the fence.
Asked if Condition 3.9 of the second resolution would
assure that frivolous complaints not require a parking
survey or traffic study.
Answered affirmatively; and, stated that City staff would
have to determine whether or not there was an impact that
needed to be mitigated which would require an objective
study to demonstrate there are impacts.
Stated he understands and supports the need for quality
day care; and, expressed concern regarding the numbers
being allowed in the space available.
Responded that staff had similar concerns regarding the
size of the house and the yard; staff contacted the
Community Care Licensing which is the State division that
licenses these types of homes; there are no size
restrictions.
Asked about the condition of the property and structure;
stated his lack of understanding of the different permits;
and, asked if the Orange County Fire Authority has
inspected the property.
Replied that the applicant has a current license from the
State to operate a small family day care; the property was
inspected by the Building Division for compliance with the
Uniform Building Code.
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Director
Kozak
Peterson
Davert
Director
Hamilton
Director
Davert
Peterson
Hamilton
Holland
Pontious
Lissette Abundis,
applicant
Jennings
Ms. Abundis
Added there are concerns regarding property
maintenance identified in the staff report and resolution;
the yard must be cleaned prior to final approval.
Referred to concerns observed on a site visit such as the
windows being high hung, the landscaping overgrown,
safety exits blocked, the fencing material and height not
uniform around the property, etc.
Responded that the State has no yard or fence height
requirements; there are conditions in the resolution that
address smoke alarms, fire alarms, fire extinguishers,
exits, all of which will be looked at carefully during final
inspection.
Asked if the Commission is pre-empted by State law from
further conditioning these applications.
Responded that the application is before the Commission
because it was appealed; the State has encouraged local
jurisdictions to approve such uses at the administrative
level, unless appealed; staff also wants to assure that the
applicant operates appropriately within the neighborhood;
Condition 1.7 was included to allow staff to review the site
on an annual basis.
Asked if there are areas other than safety which can be
conditioned.
Answered that concerns are primarily noise, traffic,
parking, overconcentration of uses, and compliance with
the Uniform Building Code established at the time of the
original approval.
Suggested that, aside from the environmental impacts, the
Commission cannot regulate this use anymore than any
other single family residence in the City.
Responded affirmatively.
Asked that Finding No. 8 indicates no swimming pool and
should include "jacuzzi/spa or other water body;" and,
inquired whether sprinklers for vegetation could be
included under Condition 3.6.
Answered that sprinklers are not something that can be
imposed on a single family home.
Invited speakers to come forward.
Stated the numbers and ages of children she is allowed;
she is caring for eight children at this time; traffic and
noise have never been a problem; neighbors are not
aware she has a day care; the dead tree in the backyard
will be removed; the children have no access to the
separate part of the backyard; she stays abreast of proper
day care through continuing education; her goal is to
improve the lives of young children.
Asked applicant what she anticipates as the ages of the
fourteen children will be.
Answered a maximum of three infants from birth to two
years, two children six or older, and nine toddlers ages
two to five; or, two school-aged children and twelve
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toddlers; when the ninth child comes into day care, the
applicant is required to have one employee.
Donna Kaden, a property
owner at 13692-13694
Green Valley
Thanked staff for addressing her concerns regarding
various issues; and, stated for the record that she owns
the property on Green Valley but does not reside there nor
does she have a business there.
8:17 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed.
It was moved by Davert to adopt Resolution No. 3798 and
Resolution No. 3799 as modified, seconded by Jennings.
Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS
Adopted Resolution No.
3800
GENERAL PLAN CONFORMITY REVIEW TO
DETERMINE THAT THE LOCATION, PURPOSE, AND
EXTENT OF A PROPOSED EASEMENT FOR STREET
AND HIGHWAY PURPOSES AT PETERS CANYON
ROAD AND SILVERADO TERRACE IS IN
CONFORMANCE WITH THE TUSTIN GENERAL PLAN.
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission adopt
Resolution No. 3800 determining that the location,
purpose, and extent of a proposed easement for street
and highway purposes is in conformance with the Tustin
General Plan.
It was moved by Davert, seconded by Hamilton, to adopt
Resolution No. 3800. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS
Report on Actions taken at the August 20, 2001, City
Council meeting.
Director reported
The City Council vote on the coin-operated carwash appeal
was two to two; therefore, the Planning Commission
decision was upheld; the applicant is working with the
appellant to modify the architecture.
The Planning Officials Forum is scheduled for the second
Thursday in October.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Hamilton
Stated that utility boxes in the area of Park Center, Bryan,
and Tustin Ranch Road are rusty and need attention.
Kozak
Thanked staff for their work on the Nextel application.
Stated that last Saturday the green light at Yorba and Irvine
heading into Tustin was not working.
Jennings
Stated there is a lot of trash on Tustin Ranch Road between
Rawlings and Pioneer.
Davert
Thanked Public Works for the informative Workshop.
Stated that signs for the free car show last weekend were
inappropriate; and, noted the need to remove illegal
commercial signs quickly.
Pontious
Thanked Public Works for the Workshop.
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Kozak
8:26 p.m.
Stated for the record that he was sorry he missed the
Workshop.
ADJOURNMENT:
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Monday, September 10, 2001, at 7:00 p.m. in
the Council Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
Eli-zabeth A. Binsa~:k
Planning Commission Secretary
Ponti~u'~ '
Chairperson
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