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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 11, 2001
A PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA) WAS HELD AT 6:00 P.M. IN
THE CONFERENCE ROOM BEHIND THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
7:03 p.m.
Given
All present
Staff present
Approved
Approved, as amended
7:05 p.m.
Ashabi
Davert
Director
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Deputy City Attorney
Doug Anderson, Senior Project Manager-Transportation
Karen Peterson, Senior Planner
Minoo Ashabi, Associate Planner
Justina Willkom, Associate Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS -- None
CONSENT CALENDAR
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MAY 14, 2001, REGULAR
MEETING
It was moved by Davert, seconded
approve the Consent Calendar.
Motion carried 5-0.
by Jennings, to
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 00-018 A REQUEST FOR
AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH A MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENT AND SMALL GROUP EVENTS IN
CONJUNCTION WITH SALON SERVICES WITHIN AN
EXISTING TENANT SPACE. THIS PROJECT IS
LOCATED AT 13911 CARROLL WAY, SUITE E, IN THE
RETAIL COMMERCIAL (C-1), P ZONING DISTRICT.
Recommendation:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3788 approving Conditional Use Permit 00-018.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
Stated that Condition 2.2 does not address the sexually
oriented business law; and, asked that language further
restricting the usage to individual treatments be added.
Suggested removing "or two individuals of the same sex"
from that condition.
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Hamilton
Staff
Hamilton
Director
Kozak
Staff
7:12 p.m.
Davert
Director
Hamilton
7:13 p.m.
Hamilton
Le Aine Dehmer, applicant
Pontious
Ms. Dehmer
7:16 p.m.
Hamilton
Holland
Pontious
Holland
Asked if there is a divider in that room which would allow
for two people.
Asked if Commissioner Hamilton was suggesting a
permanent divider.
Responded he only wants to assure that applicant does
not lose a room.
Indicated that applicant could add a demising wall at a
later date.
Requested adding language to restrict employee parking
to the rear of the building.
Answered that language could be added requiring
employees to park along the northern property line.
The Public Hearing closed.
Stated his appreciation to the applicant for bringing this
facility into compliance; and, asked if there are similar
businesses in the City in similar circumstances.
Responded affirmatively.
Stated he had a question for the applicant.
The Public Hearing reopened.
Asked the applicant about the male-female customer
ratio.
Answered that clientele is presently 25-30 percent male
but that number is increasing
Asked if there would be any problem with requiring the
employees to park in the rear.
Responded that the employees already park in the back,
and the owner provides a security escort for employees
going to their cars after dark.
Closed the Public Hearing.
Asked that "owners and managers" be added to
Condition 2.11.
Responded that the owners may not be so required under
the Code since they might not be in contact with the
clients.
Asked the City Attorney if the condition should remain as
is.
Responded affirmatively.
It was moved by Davert, seconded by Jennings, to adopt
Resolution No. 3788, amended as follows:
Remove "or two individuals of the same sex" from the
second sentence of Condition 2.2.
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Approved, as amended
7:18 p.m.
Willkom
Holland
Pontious
Holland
Director
Pontious
Director
Add to Condition 2.23 between the first and second
sentences: "Employees shall park in the parking spaces
adjacent to the northem property line."
Motion carried 5-0.
DRIVEWAY CODE AMENDMENT NO. 00-001 A
REQUEST RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY ADOPT
STANDARDS FOR DRIVEWAYS FOR RESIDENTIAL,
COMMERCIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.
Recommendation:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3728 recommending that the City Council adopt the
Negative Declaration related to Code Amendment No.
00-001; and,
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3729 recommending that the City Council adopt
Code Amendment No. 00-001 related to
development standards for driveways for residential,
commercial, and industrial properties.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
Referred the Commissioners to the proposed language
revising Resolution No. 3729, paragraph D of
subsection 9271(bb); and, stated the reasons for
making this change.
Stated that this revision addressed some of her
concerns; and, asked if language should be included
stating what would trigger compliance on a
nonconforming property.
Answered that the language in the draft ordinance
would make this fully retroactive to all properties within
the City. The proposed amendment would make this
retroactive but only to the extent that someone did not
receive some entitlement from the City for the work that
was done. In other words, if an individual received a
building permit or discretionary entitlement from the City
that authorized the approval of construction or the
installation of paved material beyond what is allowed in
the Code, that individual would be able to maintain that
paved area as essentially a nonconforming use of the
property. Whereas, if the paved area was not
associated with a prior building permit or entitlement, an
individual would be required to meet the new Code
requirements.
Stated that a more laissez faire approach might be
followed except in known problem areas.
Confirmed with staff that a proactive approach will be
focused on certain problem areas.
Indicated that was correct.
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Jennings
Staff
Jennings
Director
Davert
Staff
Davert
Staff
Hamilton
Holland
Hamilton
Holland
Director
Hamilton
Director
Hamilton
Director
Asked what the specifications are for a driveway that
does not lead to a garage.
Answered that the maximum allowable paved area
within the front yard could be 50 percent of the total
front yard setback area.
Asked, if owners are required to verify the maximum
allowable paved area, what record will be kept.
Responded there will be no way to track that.
Asked staff how 350 South B Street, which has a
driveway on the south side leading to a garage and has
a circular driveway in the front with no garage, would be
impacted by this code amendment.
Referred the Commissioners to subsection A which
discusses paved areas for accessory residential uses.
Referred to subsection B and asked if that is the width
of the paving or the width between entrances.
Answered width of the driveway.
Asked if there are no records of building permits issued
for a concrete area in the front yard.
Stated that building permits were not required simply to
construct a driveway or install paved areas; however,
paving could have been accomplished in conjunction
with other types of construction activity that would have
occurred on the site.
Asked for further clarification.
Stated that if there was no building permit for an
installation considered to be an excessive paved area,
compliance with the Code would be required; if a permit
exists that addresses that particular paved area and it
appears that it was approved in some way by the City,
that would be grandfathered and allowed to remain in
place.
Provided a hypothetical example: if a homeowner
requested a detached garage showing an excessive
area of paving ten years ago for which the City issued a
permit, that paved area would be an entitled and would
be nonconforming with the proposed ordinance.
Conversely, if ten years ago an individual paved an area
not shown on the building plan, there would be no
entitlement.
Asked what guidelines for approval existed in the past.
Answered there were none.
Asked, for clarification: if in the past someone received
a permit which involved paving the entire front yard,
would that be grandfathered in.
Responded affirmatively; and, added that the paving
would have been shown on the overall site plan.
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Hamilton
Davert
Pontious
Director
7:34 p.m.
Director
Pontious
Davert
Director
Kozak
Director
Asked for a rough percentage of people approved in the
past who would have met the proposed guideline of 50
percent.
Suggested that the intent of the statute as it has been
revised is to ensure that the City has not granted
someone a right and is now seeking to revoke that right
without due process; the revised statute does an
excellent job of making sure that the City is not
infringing upon someone's property rights.
Pointed out that in certain areas, such as Tustin Ranch,
this is not a consideration because driveways were
dealt with in the Specific Plan guidelines.
Stated agreement with Commissioner Davert's and
Commissioner Pontious' remarks.
The Public Hearing closed.
It was moved by Jennings, seconded by Davert, to
adopt Resolution No. 3728, as presented, and
Resolution No. 3729, with the following modification.
Revise Subsection 9271(bb), item d, to read as follows:
"The provisions of this Subsection shall apply to all lots
in the City to the extent such lots have not been
improved with paved areas authorized and approved
through a building permit or discretionary entitlement of
the City. Except as expressly provided in this
paragraph d, nothing in this Subsection shall be
construed as creating or providing any nonconforming
status or any other right to maintain paved area on any
lot in the City in violation of this Subsection."
Motion carried 5~0.
Asked if the Commission prefers a more laissez faire
approach in terms of code enforcement with the City
focusing on complaints or targeted areas where
problems already exist, rather than identifying how
quickly someone must come into compliance.
Responded affirmatively.
Asked if there might be 20-30 properties involved.
Responded affirmatively; added the plan is not to put a
time limit on coming into compliance; and, stated the
policy regarding time limits will be modified before the
Code amendment goes to the City Council.
Asked how the policy will be communicated.
Stated that the problem primarily involves multiple-
family residential areas and will be addressed through
TEAM (the apartment managers' association).
Continued to
September 10, 2001
o
CONTINUED ORDINANCE NO. 1232 AND DESIGN
GUIDELINES FOR ABOVEGROUND TELECOMMUNI-
CATION FACILITIES ON PUBLIC PROPERTIES AND
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Director reported
Hamilton
Director
Hamilton
Kozak
WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS IS A
CITYWIDE PROJECT.
Recommendation:
That the Planning Commission continue Ordinance No.
1232 to the September 10, 2001, Planning Commission
meeting.
It was moved by Kozak, seconded by Davert, to
continue Ordinance No. 1232 to the September 10,
2001, Planning Commission meeting.
Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS -- None
STAFF CONCERNS
Noted various Planning Commission items the City
Council approved, including the General Plan
Amendment and Zone Change for the senior living
facility.
The City Council may be considering a gate policy at the
next meeting, depending upon whether or not there is a
large SAUSD march on City Hall.
Noted there is a Budget Workshop on July 2, 2001; staff
will e-mail the Planning Commissioners regarding the
time.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Stated he enjoyed the State of the City luncheon.
Noted that while he was unable to attend the Chili Cook-
Off, the Police Department Open House was very
informative; and, thanked Chief Foster and all the officers
involved.
Noted that weeds on the property below Edinger on Red
Hill have been cleaned up; and, expressed his
appreciation.
Stated the weeds at the house on Bryan have grown
back and are now two or three feet high.
Stated the City will have to abate those weeds as the
owner has died; the City has authorization from the
County to bill the estate directly.
Concluded that he had intended to vote against the
Driveway Code Amendment, but the modification
suggested by the City Attorney convinced him otherwise.
Thanked The Irvine Company for the beautiful Irvine
Ranch book.
Thanked staff for the Der Wienerschnitzel roof color
which is much improved.
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Anderson
Director
Kozak
Jennings
Anderson
Jennings
Davert
Noted the Old Town signs on the freeway exits are up
and providing direction; the timing is perfect given the
development going on at the Water Yard and the
development at the Tustin Car Wash; and, asked,
regarding the local signage within the public right-of-way,
whether that signage will come back to the Planning
Commission for review.
Responded that the local signage is being designed in
conjunction with the Tustin Old Town Association
(TOTA); indicated he does not know whether it will come
back to the Planning Commission; and, promised to keep
the Commission informed.
Noted the local signage program would not come back to
the Commission, but staff can bring it back as an
informational item.
Stated the Primrose Plaza monument sign on the east
side of Newport Avenue just below Sixth Street is broken
down and covered with graffiti.
Thanked staff for their work on the Driveway Ordinance.
Asked staff to look into the possibility of an ordinance
requiring retail only for the first floor of buildings in Old
Town, not just new construction.
Reported that she and Commissioner Davert attended
the Cultural Resources Advisory Committee (CRAC)
meeting and shared the following: CRAC is an active
committee although there are only three members at this
time; CRAC continues sending the letters of
commendation for outstanding renovations or new
projects in Old Town; CRAC is concerned about airport
and freeway noise and talked about taking something to
the City Council on those two issues; CRAC continues to
pursue the listing of buildings on the Historic Register; a
name change is being discussed pointing out that staff's
research indicates most cities do not use that name; and,
CRAC is pursuing the possible use of CDBG funds to be
used in historic area.
Stated she enjoyed the Police Department's Open House
and found it informative.
Suggested that Old Town items be given to CRAC by fax
or e-mail, allowing the Committee some input.
Stated the intersection of Main and El Camino has been
backed up several times to B Street; and, asked if a study
was done on this situation.
Responded affirmatively, stating a modification of that
intersection is planned for the next fiscal year.
Stated she had her first experience with the Engineering
and Community Development Departments regarding
her gazebo; and, thanked staff for their excellent service.
Noted that the Old Town signage on the freeway idea
was brought up by Steve Kozak some time ago; and,
stated the Old Town merchants are very happy with the
signage.
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Staff
Davert
Director
Pontious
7:56 p.m.
Elizabeth A. Binsack
Planning Commission Secretary
Stated that Mr. Surfas does not appear to have complied
with his agreement to remove the blue banner; the paper
cover over his sign is getting tiresome; and, asked staff
to be more assertive.
Responded that Mr. Surfas been issued a permit; he
recorded an agreement with Econo Lube 'N Tune
regarding the sign's design, ownership, maintenance, etc.
Noted one of the things the Cultural Resources Advisory
Committee (CRAC) wanted to address was increasing
communication between the City and CRAC; the people
on the Committee are talented, have Old Town expertise,
and should be more involved; this suggestion would also
apply to the Tustin Old Town Association Board.
Asked about a rumor concerning a forthcoming project at
the El Camino Real Bank building which is generating
interest in Old Town; and, requested that staff keep
CRAC and TOTA informed regarding this proposal.
Stated the Chili Cook-Off was wonderful.
Asked whether the License and Permit Board is a regular
meeting board and who is on the Board.
Answered that the Board meets only when there is an
item; the Board consists of the Director of Community
Development, the Police Chief, and the Chamber of
Commerce Executive Director.
Stated those who enjoyed the Police Department's Open
House should go to the Police Academy, an informative
and worthwhile experience.
Thanked staff for the graffiti follow-up.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Davert, seconded by Hamilton, to
adjourn the meeting at 7:56 p.m.
Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Monday, June 25, 2001, at 7:00 p.m. in the
Council Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
~es~e A Pontious/ -
Chairperson
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