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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 12, 2001
7:00 p.m.
Given
All present
Staff present
Approved
Adopted Resolution
No. 3770
7:03 p.m.
Adams
Jodi Kulzer, Applicant
7:05 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Deputy City Attorney
Karen Peterson, Senior Planner
Patty Adams, Assistant Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS - None
CONSENT CALENDAR
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - FEBRUARY 26, 2001,
REGULAR MEETING
It was moved by Bell, seconded by Pontious, to
approve the Minutes of the February 26, 2001, Regular
Meeting.
Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CONTINUED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 00-034 A
REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION TO OPERATE A
GYMNASIUM/LEARNING CENTER FOR CHILDREN
AND PARENTS. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED AT
13112 NEWPORT AVENUE, SUITE I, IN THE
PLANNED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL (PC-C)
ZONING DISTRICT.
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 00-034 by adopting
Resolution No. 3770.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
Stated her wish to continue her work at this location.
The Public Hearing closed.
It was moved by Jennings, seconded by Bell, to
approve Conditional Use Permit 00-034 by adopting
Resolution No. 3770.
Motion carried 5-0.
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Continued
Adopted Resolution
No. 3772
Peterson
Director
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 000-01 - DRIVEWAY
CODE AMENDMENT A REQUEST FOR
AMENDMENT TO THE TUSTIN CITY CODE
RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR
DRIVEWAYS AND SITE ACCESS WITHIN ALL
ZONING DISTRICTS.
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission
continue Code Amendment No. 00-01 to the April 23,
2001, Planning Commission meeting.
It was moved by Miller, seconded by Pontious, to
continue this item to the April 23, 2001, Planning
Commission meeting.
Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS
USE DETERMINATION NOS. 00-001 AND 00-002 A
REQUEST TO DETERMINE THAT THE USES 14511
AND 14512 CARFAX DRIVE ARE RESIDENTIAL
APARTMENT USES. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED
AT 14511 AND 14512 CARFAX DRIVE (LOTS 14 AND
15 OF TRACT 5028) IN THE SUBURBAN
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT (R-4).
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 3772 denying Use
Determination Nos. 00-001 and 00-002 determining
that the uses that have been established are not
apartment uses and are boarding houses which
require approval of a conditional use permit.
Presented the staff report.
Stated in July 1999, staff met with applicants, prior to
the current use determination process, and outlined a
procedure to legally establish their uses at this location;
staff identified it as R-4 zoned property that did not
allow sober living facilities or boarding houses; staff
reviewed the Zoning Code in conjunction with the City
Attorney's office and identified that boarding house was
the most closely related use that would legally
accommodate applicants' proposed use; staff
suggested that the owners submit a use determination
and conditional use permit application; however, in
September 1999, staff received a letter from the
applicants' attorney suggesting that the City process a
zone change to accommodate the client's request; staff
proposed to list boarding houses as conditionally
permitted uses in the R-4 zoning district to establish a
legal way for applicants to seek approval to operate
their use at these properties; staff provided a copy of
the proposed Ordinance, held the appropriate public
hearings before the Planning Commission and the City
Council; staff received no objections to those public
hearings; staff provided applicants ample opportunity in
advance of those meetings to provide staff with
comments; no comments were received nor were there
any objections at any of the public hearings; staff sent
numerous letters regarding information that would be
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Kozak
Kevin Robinson, property
owner's attorney
Marc Kassoff, S & K
Properties
Nick Spadafino, Pacific Park
Recovery Center
Kenneth Hunt, recovering
alcohol/drug abuser
needed to bring conditional use permit applications to
the Planning Commission for consideration; however,
the applicants elected to submit a use determination
application instead of a conditional use permit
application; staff has not received a completed
application; therefore, staff is bringing this incomplete
application forward for the Commission's consideration;
if staff receives a plan showing compliance with the
development standards identified in Ordinance 1225,
staff may be able to support approval of a conditional
use permit for boarding houses at the properties. The
established uses are not apartments, and staff is
recommending denial of the application.
Invited applicants' representatives to speak.
Stated applicants' belief that this recommendation for
denial is not about apartment/boarding house
definition but whether or not Tustin will allow
recovering addicts/alcoholics to reside in the City;
stated these residents are protected under the
Federal Fair Housing Act as handicapped persons as
well as 42 U.S.C. Section 3602; provided copies of a
letter from a psychiatrist stating that recovering
alcoholics/addicts need sober living facilities for
recovery; stated applicants have the blessing of the
County and State in providing this housing; delivered
a petition showing support of neighbors; and,
indicated he had requested through the City Attorney
that the City reach an acceptable accommodation for
his clients that would benefit the County and the City.
Stated that when he purchased the property, there
were 10-15 occupants in each apartment, far
exceeding the current number; referred to spending
approximately $100,000 to bring the property beyond
the standards of the neighborhood; stated the use
has not changed from the time of purchase; stated
there have been no complaints from neighbors; stated
this is a facility which provides a proper sober-living
environment for people with nowhere else to go; and,
asked the Planning Commission to reconsider staff's
recommendation.
Asked that the Planning Commission let the City
Council know this facility is a benefit to the City;
stated he works closely with the Department of
Corrections, the Parole Department, and the Tustin
Police Department; stated that the Police Department
has been invited to inspect the property whenever
they choose, and these police visits have never
produced any evidence of illegal activity; stated this is
a very structured program, and residents cannot stay
if they revert to drug or alcohol use; and, stated there
were several residents in attendance who wished to
give testimony.
Stated a brief history of his life in and out of the prison
system and his inability to stay clean and sober
before arriving at the Carfax facility.
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Mr. Robinson
Indicated that other representatives could tell similar
stories but felt that Mr. Hunt's testimony was
sufficient.
Kozak
Director
Kozak
Pontious
Mr. Kassoff
Mr. Spadafino
Miller
Asked staff for a definition of a boarding house.
Indicated that definition was provided in the staff
report, reread the definition, and acknowledged that it
is a broad definition allowing for several uses within
this broad class; stated there is no attempt to zone
out or restrict the establishment of sober living
environments; indicated staff is asking applicants to
comply with reasonable regulations to legally
establish such uses, including sufficient parking,
sufficient private open space areas, and sufficient
common open space areas; if applicants could meet
these standards required for any land use, staff could
support the proposed use at this location.
Stated his belief that a sober living environment is
beneficial for recovering individuals; noted this is a
land use issue which requires compliance to establish
a permitted use under R-4 with a conditional use
permit; states that the application is incomplete; and,
supported staff's recommendation of denial.
Concurred with the Chairman's comments; and,
supported the staff recommendation.
Returned to the lectern to state that by pidgeonholing
applicants into a boarding house description, staff is
changing what the use of the property is; there was
never any parking requirement other than an
apartment house which is the same the length of
Carfax Drive; new owners buying fourplexes on
Carfax Drive do not have to submit a conditional use
permit; staff's claim that applicants' use is other than
an apartment house is incorrect since nothing has
changed; applicants are being singled out; no other
owner has been required to go through this process;
and, asked why the City is discriminating against the
applicants.
Returned to the lectern to make a comparison with
the building at 14555 Carfax Drive, which is housing
fifteen people in one bedroom while his facility houses
a maximum of eight people in two bedrooms; stated
there is no counseling or therapy provided at the
applicants' location; stated many of the residents at
applicants' facility do not own automobiles so parking
is not an issue; stated the residents of 14555 Carfax
Drive have numerous "junkers" sitting on the street;
and, asked why the City is not pursuing the use of
14555 Carfax Drive.
Asked if the applicant is running a business of
keeping people sober which is different from a
random group cooperating and paying rent in an
apartment house; and, asked if the property was
originally designated as a boarding house and then
designated as a apartment house.
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Mr. Kassoff
Mr. Robinson
Pontious
Kozak
Jennings
Director
Continued
Responded that all apartment houses are run as
businesses; stated this facility exists under a master
lease to Pacific Park Recovery for a building owned
by S & K Properties; provided the example of IBM
signing master leases for workers to have a place to
stay while on special projects; and, stated the monies
paid by Pacific Park to S & K Properties are on a per-
bed basis--S200 per month per bed--which
extrapolates to $1,600 per month for a two-bedroom
apartment and falls well within the parameters
prescribed by the City.
Referred to earlier meetings with staff during which
the boarding house/apartment designation was
discussed; stated his understanding that the City
Council was amenable to changing the R-4 zoning to
allow boarding houses would solve the problem; and
stated that, rather than being pidgeonholed one more
time into a use applicants did not agree with, filing a
use determination application before the Planning
Commission seemed the appropriate action to resolve
the situation.
Stated her appreciation for the testimony and her
respect for sober living facilities; stated that when
presented with similar recovery facilities, there have
always been
regarding the
concerns, etc.;
more that can
and, concurred
the application.
concerns and conditions in place
number of people involved, traffic
as important as the facility is, there is
be done to bring it into compliance;
with staffs recommendation denying
Pointed out that a conditional use permit has been the
procedure in previous situations.
Stated her feeling that such facilities are an asset to
the recovering individuals and to the community;
however, it is necessary to reach compliance; and,
supported staff's recommendation.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Jennings, to
adopt Resolution No. 3772 denying Use
Determination Nos. 00-001 and 00-002 determining
that the uses that have been established are not
apartment uses and are boarding houses which
require approval of a conditional use permit.
Motion carried 4-1. Miller abstained.
Pointed out there is a seven-day appeal period which
expires at the close of business, March 19, 2001.
CONTINUED DESIGN REVIEW 01-001 A REQUEST
FOR AUTHORIZATION TO REPAINT THE BUILDING
EXTERIOR INCLUDING THE FASCIA, PARAPET
WALLS, AND WAINSCOT WITH PEACH AND
ORANGE COLORS. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED
AT 1091 OLD IRVINE BOULEVARD WITHIN THE C-1
RETAIL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
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Director
Director reported
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission
continue Design Review 01-001 to the April 9, 2001,
Planning Commission meeting.
It was moved by Miller, seconded by Bell, to continue
Design Review 01-001 to the April 9, 2001, Planning
Commission meeting.
Motion carried 5-0.
Added for the benefit of the applicants and owners that
this may be appealed to the City Council; the City
would need to receive the appeal, the reasons for the
appeal, and the appropriate fee by the close of
business Monday, March 29, 2001.
6. STAFF CONCERNS
The City Council initiated amendments to the MCAS
Tustin Reuse Plan.
Jennings
Director
Bell
Director
Pontious
Miller
The City Council tabled Ordinance No. 1234 amending
terms of office of members of the Audit Committee.
Noted that the current Planning Commissioners will
remain until their successors are appointed; there is not
yet a date set for Planning Commissioner interviews.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Asked if there has been any progress with Acorn
Naturalists or the Tustin Car Wash.
Answered that grading permits have been issued for
the car wash; time has expired for Acorn Naturalists at
that site, but there may be a plan for an Old Town
location.
Asked if there are plans for the small businesses
burned at Larwin Square.
Indicated plans have been submitted into plan check to
expedite the issuance of permits and will follow the
Vons architecture.
Encouraged everyone's attendance at City Council
meetings and speaking out to show support on the
MCAS Tustin Reuse Plan.
Stated the Surfas Furrier appeal notice seemed
ambiguous regarding the site address.
Kozak
Thanked staff for their assistance with Item No. 4 on
this evening's agenda.
Asked if there is any way staff can facilitate Iow-interest
loans for the small businesses at Larwin Square.
Asked if measures can be implemented, such as
holding the property owner accountable for permit
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requirements and notifying tenants of those
requirements, to prevent situations like Item No. 2 on
the agenda this evening.
Director
Indicated that staff will look into those issues and
provide outreach wherever possible.
Kozak
Reported a box spring leaning against the dairy on Old
Irvine Boulevard; and, stated the driveway access in
that whole area is crumbling.
8:12 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Bell, to adjourn
to April 9, 2001.
Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission
is scheduled for Monday, April 9, 2001, at 7:00 p.m. in
the Council Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
['~sti~ A. Pon"~i~us
Chairperson
Elizabeth A. Binsack
Planning Commission Secretary
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