HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 02-12-01 MINUTES
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 12, 2001
7:00 p.m.
Given
All present
Staff present
Approved
Adopted Resolution
No. 3767
7:01 p.m.
Adams
Applicant Frank Malik
Gary Stepp, Unit 621
7:05 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Deputy City Attorney
Karen Peterson, Senior Planner
Minoo Asabi, Associate Planner
Patty Adams, Assistant Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS - None
CONSENT CALENDAR
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JANUARY 22, 2001,
REGULAR MEETING
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Bell, to
approve the Minutes of the January 22, 2001, Regular
Meeting.
Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Continued public hearing for Conditional Use Permit
00-031 a request for authorization to establish a
2,000 square foot smog testing facility in a planned
industrial community. The project is located at 621
South B Street, Suite AA, in the Planned Industrial
(PM) zoning district.
Recommendation:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3767 denying Conditional Use Permit 00-031.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
DISCUSSION
Expressed his desire to withdraw this project.
Stated his opposition to the project.
The Public Hearing closed.
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Pontious
Kozak and Jennings
Adopted Resolution
No. 3768
7:07 p.m.
Ashabi
Arnie Kimeldorf,
representative
Pontious
Kozak and Miller
Adopted Resolution
No. 3755
applicant's
Stated the parking situation disallowed the proposed
use; this was an unfortunate situation; and, expressed
her hope that another location for the applicant's
project can be found within the City.
Echoed Pontious' comments.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Jennings, to
adopt Resolution No. 3767.
Motion carried 5-0.
Conditional Use Permit 00-030 a request for
authorization to provide massage services in
association with a full-service salon within an existing
tenant space of an office/retail building. This project is
located at 17480 East 17th Street, Suite 200, in the
Planned Community Commercial (PC-COMM) zoning
district.
Recommendation:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3768 approving Conditional Use Permit 00-030.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
Stated the establishment has been providing this
service for twenty years with no complaints; applicant
was not aware that a permit was required; services are
provided only for regular salon customers; and, no
changes in this procedure are planned.
Stated her appreciation for Mr. Kimeldorfs appearance
at the meeting; and, stated her support for staffs
recommendation.
Echoed Pontious' statements; and, added their support
for staffs recommendation.
It was moved by Miller, seconded by Bell, to adopt
Resolution No. 3768.
Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS
Sign Code Exception 00-001 a request to allow reface
of an existing fifty (50) square foot joint use
monument sign originally approved for businesses at
145 and 155 West First Street for use of Surfas
Furriers at 145 West First Street. This project is
located at 145 West First Street within the First Street
Specific Plan (Commercial Primary) zoning district.
Recommendation:
1. Deny the request by adopting Resolution 3755; or,
2. Direct staff to prepare a resolution of approval if the
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Kozak
Arnold Sun'as
Miller
Mr. Surfas
David McCombs,
representative for Econo
Lube 'N Tube
Pontious
Mr. McCombs
Kozak
Mr. McCombs
Jennings
Mr. McCombs
Chairman
Deputy City Attorney
Jennings
Staff
Deputy City Attomey
Planning Commission desires to approve the
request as an "Individual Business Identification" or
"Center Identification" sign.
Invited the applicant to come forward even though
this item was not a public hearing.
Stated the history of his ownership of the business
and his understanding of the signage arrangement
when he purchased the property; and, asked for
latitude allowing for the sign to remain.
Inquired if the sign had originally been shared with the
other business owner and why there is no longer a
willingness to share the monument sign.
Responded it was his understanding that the former
businesses were similar, which is no longer the case.
Stated his disappointment with the non-response to
his request at the Planning Commission meeting of
October 23, 2000, asking that the sign be restored to
its former condition; stated the monument sign had
been owned and operated by Econo Lube 'N Tune for
twenty-four years prior to its dismantling by Mr.
Surfas; and, reiterated his request that the sign be
returned to its former condition--advertising both
businesses.
Asked what impact bringing down the sign would
have on the businesses.
Answered that already two businesses have failed.
Questioned whether the monument sign was
originally constructed by Econo Lube 'N Tune.
Responded affirmatively and added that the sign had
served to advertise two businesses.
Asked if Econo Lube 'N Tune wished to divide the
sign to advertise his business and Surfas Furriers.
Answered affirmatively.
Asked staff what action would be appropriate, based
on the 1977 signage decision.
Indicated that the application before the Planning
Commission was the only issue to be addressed.
Asked if a sign could be placed on the east side of the
building.
Answered that any sign must be facing First Street or
the parking lot.
Stated that the application for a permit in 1977 was
issued to two businesses, Econo Lube 'N Tune and
an auto parts store.
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Mr. Surfas
Jennings
Pontious
Bell
Chairman
Director
Continued
Chairman
Alex Mann
Jennings
Miller
Jennings
o
Indicated moving the sign 25 feet to the east would be
acceptable to him.
Stated her belief that this building complements Old
Town but more signage is not the answer; and,
expressed the hope that the two parties can come to
an agreement to share the monument.
Stated that the application involves too many
exceptions; the tenants should work together; and, if
the tenants cannot work together, perhaps they
should submit separate applications.
Agreed with the foregoing comments by Pontious and
Jennings; and, stated her support for staff's
recommendation.
Stated his non-support for the exceptions and asked
the tenants to come to an agreement.
Pontious moved, seconded by Bell, to adopt Resolution
No. 3755.
Motion carried 5-0.
Stated the sign should be removed or reverted back to
its former appearance before any further applications
are submitted.
Design Review 01-001 a request for authorization to
repaint the building exterior including the fascia,
parapet walls and wainscot with peach and orange
colors. This project is located at 1091 Old Irvine
Boulevard within the C-1 Retail Commercial zoning
district.
Recommendation: Pleasure of the Planning
Commission.
Invited the applicant to speak.
Stated that off-white is difficult to maintain given the
bowling alley's clientele; and, indicated he had
attempted to match the Spanish-style colors in the
area.
Stated that, if applicant meant terra cotta and peach,
the result was unsuccessful.
Expressed his support of the color scheme, which is
not dissimilar to The Market Place; added that Tustin
Lanes has been a Tustin-based business for a long
time and therefore retains historic value; and, stated
applicant should be allowed to use the color scheme
presented.
Indicated the Tustin Lanes architecture is quite different
from The Market Place; and, suggested applicant work
with staff to find colors that complement the
architecture.
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Bell
Chairman
Mr. Mann
Director
Chairman
Director
Jennings
Bell
Pontious
Miller
Kozak
Stated that the applicant is on the right track but the
colors are too harsh; expressed an understanding of
the maintenance problems; and, suggested that softer
colors would be acceptable.
Stated the colors are not compatible with the pole and
wall-mounted signs or the style of the building;
indicated the Planning Commission is responsible for
visual appearances in the City and the proposed colors
are incompatible with the structural design; and,
advised applicant to find an alternate color scheme.
Asked that the Commission consider the colors at El
Torito as a comparison; indicated he has been working
with staff to no avail; and, asked the Commission to
reconsider requiring off-white for the fascia.
Suggested the Commission adopt the denial and
perhaps a color compromise can be reached at the
staff level.
Reiterated that the present colors are too garish and
make the building itself a sign; and, asked staff to
suggest appropriate colors.
Suggested a two-week continuance during which staff
can work with applicant.
It was moved by Kozak, seconded by Jennings, to
continue this item to the February 26, 2001, Planning
Commission meeting.
Motion carried 5-0.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
None
Thanked staff for the informative CDBG workshop.
Stated there is a torn awning at Bagel Me on Newport
Avenue.
Thanked staff for the quick response to trash problems
at the Y2K Chinese Buffet Restaurant and stated work
on the restaurant is still moving slowly.
Thanked Commissioners Bell, Jennings and Pontious
for their participation in the CDBG workshop.
Stated it is good to see work on the postal parking lot
advancing.
Asked that staff investigate the blank 4' by 8' sign on
Newport Avenue near Little Gym and Circle K.
Stated there is also a raised monument sign with
exposed bolts and metal rods in this same area, which
is creating a hazard for pedestrians, and suggested this
damaged monument be removed.
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Director
8:28 p.m.
Stated there are pallets, open containers, and other
debris at 621 South B Street; three large trash bins, a
broken-down sofa, and outside storage at 649 South B
Street; and, asked staff to investigate.
Stated that bins may not be required to be in
enclosures at this site, but staff will investigate and
address the potential public nuisances at those
locations.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Bell, to
adjourn.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission
is scheduled for Monday, February 26, 2001, at 7:00
p.m. in the Council Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
Elizabeth A. Binsack
Planning Commission Secretary
/Step e~.~v. Kozak
Chairman
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