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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 11,2000
CALL TO ORDER:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Staff:
7:05 p.m., City Council Chambers
Commissioner Pontious
Chairman Kozak, Commissioners Bell, Jennings, Miller,
and Pontious
Chairman Kozak, Commissioners Bell, Jennings, Miller,
and Pontious
Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Deputy City Attorney
Karen Peterson, Senior Planner
Doug Anderson, Senior Project Manager (Transportation)
Lori Ludi, Associate Planner
Patty Adams, Assistant Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
There were no Public Concerns.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of November 28, 2000 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Bell seconded, to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. Conditional Use Permit 00-032 for authorization to establish a 3,159 square foot
convenience market within a commercial center.
APPLICANT: MIKE AND FRANCIS ZELIG
PROPERTY
OWNERS: WILLIAM ZAPPAS
LOCATION: 688 EL CAMINO REAL
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3763 approving Conditional
Use Permit 00-032.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:07 p.m.
Patty Adams, Assistant Planner, presented the report.
Commissioner Miller stated he visited the site, paced the distance from the front of the
church to the front of the store, and asked if an exception could be made to the 600-foot
requirement.
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The Director responded that the distance requirement is measured from the building to the
property line. Any deviation would require a variance or a code amendment, and the City
would have to consider the impacts on convenience stores throughout the City.
Commissioner Miller stated his understanding that not all cities have such a distance
requirement and asked if the Commission could grant a variance based on the physical
barrier which exists.
Doug Holland, Deputy City Attorney, stated the item on tonight's agenda is a Conditional
Use Permit, and the alcoholic beverage issue would have to occur at a subsequent
meeting.
Commissioner Miller stated that the small business owner should have every opportunity
to succeed and that his concern is for equal footing for everyone.
Chairman Kozak noted that issue will have to be addressed at a later time and invited the
applicant to speak.
Frances Zelig, applicant, stated her appreciation for staff's recommending that the
Conditional Use Permit be granted.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:19 p.m.
Commissioner Jennings moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to adopt Resolution
No. 3763 approving Conditional Use Permit 00-032. Motion carried 5-0.
3. Conditional Use Permit 99-032 and Design Review 99-041 a request to demolish
an existing commercial building and construct a commercial building to include a
medical office, retail tenant space and related site amenities.
APPLICANT: PAT SULLIVAN, ARCHITECT
GREENBERG FARROW ARCHITECTURE
PROPERTY
OWNER: DR. ROBERT HELM
LOCATION: 215 EL CAMINO REAL
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3762 approving Conditional
Use Permit 99-032 and Design Review 99-041.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:20 p.m.
Lori Ludi, Associate Planner, presented the report.
The Director added as a point of clarification that the applicant will be required to enter into
an agreement with the Redevelopment Agency for spaces in the parking structure on C
Street; there will be other parking spaces available as a result of the water yard
redevelopment; those spaces are in close walking distance; and, staff is looking at a bank
of parking within Old Town.
Commissioner Pontious asked if this requires an adjustment.
The Director responded negatively.
Commissioner Jennings asked if this plan includes any additional parking, given more
intensive use at some point.
The Director answered affirmatively.
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Chairman Kozak noted that the lease agreement for parking requires a deed restriction be
recorded but no such restriction covers the reciprocal access agreement.
Staff responded that reciprocal access agreements are typically deed restricted but that
could be specifically noted if the Planning Commission so directs.
Chairman Kozak indicated that change should be made for consistency and invited the
applicant to speak to the Commission.
Pat Sullivan, Greenberg Farrow Architecture, stated he has been working with staff for a
couple of years to get this project finalized and looks forward to getting started.
Chairman Kozak asked if there is a plan to park the employment vehicle, requiring nine
spaces rather than eight.
Mr. Sullivan responded that he has to speak to Dr. Helm about the parking but anticipates
taking the gates off to provide additional parking space.
Commissioner Miller asked how the architectural style was chosen.
Mr. Sullivan responded that staff and the applicant worked together to create a design
similar to existing buildings on El Camino Real and Main Street.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:32 p.m.
The Director proposed that the following language be added to Condition 6.1 at the end of
the second sentence: "The reciprocal ingress and egress agreement shall be provided
between all the properties located between Second Street and Third Street. Subject to the
review and approval by the Community Development Department, the applicant shall
provide evidence of a recorded reciprocal access agreement prior to the issuance of
demolition permits."
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Miller seconded, to adopt Resolution
No. 3762, as amended, approving Conditional Use Permit 99-032 and Design Review
99-041. Motion carried 5-0.
Conditional Use Permit 98-025 and Design Review 98-029 for authorization to
construct a 27,548 square foot church facility and preschool.
APPLICANT/
PROPERTY OWNER:
THE CHURCH AT TUSTIN RANCH
DR. CHARLES LAMBERT, PASTOR
LOCATION:
LOT 7 OF TRACT 12870 LOCATED ON THE
NORTHEAST CORNER OF RAWLINGS WAY
AND TUSTIN RANCH ROAD
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 3760 approving the Final Negative Declaration for the
project.
2. Adopt Resolution No. 3761 approving Conditional Use Permit 98-025 and
Design Review 98-029.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:33 p.m.
Lori Ludi, Associate Planner, presented the report.
The Director referred the Planning Commission to the letter from Stephen R. Sheldon,
Attorney for the Church at Tustin Ranch; clarified the points propounded in the letter;
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and, suggested language to modify the conditions so that the applicant does not have to
return for another public hearing.
Commissioner Miller stated he had visited the site and suggested that a driveway at the
southeast corner of the property might solve the traffic problem; and, also suggested
that a cooperative agreement between churches and schools has been successfully
accomplished at other locations.
Doug Anderson, City Traffic Engineer, stated that staff considered two driveways at that
location, and the City's concern was that the westerly driveway would present a conflict
with the ingress through the gates into the private community.
Commissioner Miller stated that he was referring to the southeast corner of Tustin
Ranch Road.
Mr. Anderson stated that Tustin Ranch Road had also been considered; the concern
was that bicycles are allowed on sidewalks in this area; any driveway cuts or accesses,
other than emergency or pedestrian, would impact the capacity of the roadway; and,
Tustin Ranch Road, Jamboree Road and other major arterials within the City have been
restricted for access.
Commissioner Jennings asked about the inadequacy of the left-turn pocket on Tustin
Ranch Road and what future plans are intended to alleviate that problem.
Mr. Anderson responded that this left-turn pocket has been considered as a possible
future capital improvement project, and the City has opted to look at the situation once
the school is in operation.
Commissioner Jennings asked if suggested language to be added to Condition 4.4
refers to another traffic study.
The Director responded affirmatively, adding that there are limitations under state law
with respect to granting a long-term reciprocal ingress/egress agreement with a private
property owner.
Commissioner Miller added that the Loma Vista agreement with Trinity Presbyterian is a
gentlemen's agreement.
Stephen R. Sheldon, Attorney for the Church at Tustin Ranch, thanked staff for their
willingness to make last-minute changes and recapped the Church's efforts to work with
the community.
Chairman Kozak asked if staff's proposed modifications are acceptable.
Mr. Sheldon responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Jennings asked if a time has been set for opening the pre-school.
Mr. Sheldon answered that the preschool will begin at 6:00 a.m.
Commissioner Bell asked when structured activity begins.
Mr. Sheldon responded that this preschool's format will be similar to other preschools in
the City.
Commissioner Jennings asked if the Ladera starting time is 9:00 a.m.
Staff responded that grades 1-5 are scheduled to start at 8:45 a.m. Kindergarten starts
at 8:00 a.m. because there are two sessions. The School Board has not definitely set
these times yet but has suggested the start times will be similar to Peters Canyon; staff
has allowed for flexibility in these hours.
Commissioner Bell asked what the ages of the preschool children will be.
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Steve Sheldon answered from infant to five years old.
Commissioner Bell stated that crossing the parking lot with preschoolers while dealing
with infants or other children may not be logistically feasible.
Elain Nermon, Tustin resident and president of San Rafael Homeowners Association,
offered various comments and suggestions to solve the anticipated traffic congestion.
Commissioner Jennings asked how high the lights are going to be at Ladera.
Ms. Nermon indicated negotiations with the School Board resulted in 12 feet.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:19 p.m.
Chairman Kozak asked for staff input regarding the above matters.
Doug Anderson, responding to Ms. Nermon comments, indicated the City is not in favor
of an additional driveway cut on Tustin Ranch Road and noted the City's concern
related to bicycle and vehicular traffic conflicts.
Commissioner Bell asked from where the students feeding Ladera will be coming.
The Director answered that this has not yet been determined.
Commissioner Pontious suggested that dealing with these uncertainties might be better
dealt with after the school is open and conditions are known.
Commissioner Jennings referred back to the height of the lights.
The Director answered that Condition 2.34 limits the height of the fixture to 20 feet.
Chairman Kozak summarized the foregoing issues and asked for further public input.
The Public Hearing reopened at 8:28 p.m.
Ms. Nermon returned to the podium and referred to the attendance boundary issue.
Chairman Kozak remarked that everyone is concerned for the safety of school children;
there are engineering and planning reasons for disallowing access from a major arterial
highway; and, supported limiting access from Rawlings Way.
Steve Sheldon summarized: there is a student drop-off on Township Drive for
community residents; he would support the curb cut on Tustin Ranch Road and
suggested this could be incorporated into a future study; the streetlights on Rawlings
are 30 feet high and already cast light into the homes; the Church is not above grade as
earlier suggested; the lights are shielded by the school; and, the height should not be
lower than 20 feet.
Doug Anderson stated the City is willing to investigate a curb cut at Tustin Ranch Road
after the traffic normalizes and the boundaries are defined.
Chairman Kozak agreed that these items may need to be addressed in the future and
referred to the height of the lights, asking if present technology would allow for the 20-
foot height.
The Director answered that the 20-foot limitation would not have an impact on the
surrounding uses because the standard requires the light be directed down.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:38 p.m.
Commissioner Pontious stated that, given the applicant's comments, the technology
allows for the 20-foot height without impacting the neighbors.
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Chairman Kozak asked the Director for language for modifications.
Commissioner Miller moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to adopt Resolution No.
3760 approving the Final Negative Declaration for the project, as amended to be
consistent with Resolution No. 3761. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Jennings moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to adopt Resolution
No. 3761 approving Conditional Use Permit 98-025 and Design Review 98-029 with the
following modifications:
Condition 4.1A, the first three sentences to read as follows: "The vehicle drop-off hours
for the preschool are prohibited between 8:15 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. If a child is being
dropped off at the adjacent elementary school, a child for the preschool may be walked
over to the preschool site. The vehicle may not enter the preschool parking lot."
Condition 4.2, the first sentence to read as follows: "Written disclosure and
acknowledgement of the restricted vehicle drop-off schedule shall be submitted for
review and approval by the Community Development Department."
Condition 4.4 to read as follows: "Subject to written approval of the Director of
Community Development, in consultation with the City's Traffic Engineer, if the traffic
conditions permit on Monday through Friday from 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., the sanctuary
may be used simultaneously with the preschool and office uses."
Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
5. Suggested dates for Planning Commission Workshops.
The Planning Commission unanimously agreed to move forward with the dates and topics
suggested by staff.
STAFF CONCERNS:
6. Report on Actions taken at the December 4, 2000 City Council Meeting.
Presentation: Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director
Reported that the November 7th election was declared and new
Councilmembers were sworn in on December 5, 2000.
The Director referred to the Zoning Administrator's approval of the Holt Avenue conditional
use permit modification which eliminated the requirement for the property owner to install a
sidewalk; a proposal has gone out for bid for citywide sidewalk and gutter improvements,
however, the City will propose a change order to the original contract to include the
sidewalk along Holt Avenue; sidewalks will not be accomplished simultaneously with the
property owner's improvements but will be done in 2001.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
COMMISSIONER JENNINGS
- Stated that the building next to Albertson's on Newport Avenue has plywood over
one of the windows and looks bad.
- Noted that the Friendly Hills sign in Packer Square has the word 'q'albert" covered
with unsightly blue tape.
COMMISSIONER BELL
- Asked if there is anything new on the Tustin Lanes paint job.
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The Director responded that staff has been working with the manager who will be
providing new schematics for staff's consideration.
- Asked if the Planning Commission will be dark December 27, 2000.
The Director answered affirmatively.
- Wished everyone happy holidays.
COMMISSIONER PONTIOUS
- Wished everyone happy holidays.
COMMISSIONER MILLER
- Wished everyone Merry Christmas.
- Compared the paint job at Tustin Lanes with the color scheme at The Market Place
and asked why Tustin Lanes must change their palette.
The Director responded that the colors at The Market Place were approved by the
Planning Commission; the color scheme at Tustin Lanes was not.
CHAIRMAN KOZAK
- Thanked everyone for his/her hard work during 2000.
- Referred to conference information he received from the Local Government
Commission and provided staff with a printout downloaded from the Internet; the
conference takes place in San Diego January 19 and 20, 2001, and might be
beneficial for Planning Commissioners to attend.
- Referred to stickers on public direction and street signs and asked that the Public
Works Department staff remove them.
Wished everyone happy holidays and new year.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Bell seconded, to adjourn the meeting at
8:57 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission will be held on January 8, 2001, beginning
at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin.
S~'epl~. Kozak
Chairman
Elizabeth A. Bins~c[~ v-
Planning Commission Secretary