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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 12, 1999
CALL TO ORDER:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners:
Present:
Absent:
Staff:
7:02 p.m., City Council Chambers
Commissioner Kawashima
Chairperson Pontious, Browne,
and Kozak
Davert,
Kawashima
Chairperson Pontious
Vice Chair Kozak
Browne
Davert
Kawashima
None
Elizabeth A. Binsack, Director of Community Development
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney
Karen Peterson, Acting Senior Planner
Lori Ludi, Associate Planner
Douglas Anderson, Senior Project Manager - Traffic
Bradley Evanson, Assistant Planner
Kathy Martin, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS: (Limited to 3 minutes per person for items not on the agenda.)
No Public Concerns were addressed.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of the June 28, 1999 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Kawashima seconded, to approve the
minutes. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Public Hearing For Conditional Use Permit 99-002, Desiqn Review 99-001 and
Sign Code Exception 99-001 a request to establish a 3,322 square foot fast food
restaurant with drive-thru operations. The project is located at 13922 Red Hill
Avenue within the Central Commercial (C-2) Zoning District.
APPLICANT:
KENT J. BICKELL
CONSOLIDATED RESTAURANTS OF CALIFORNIA
PROPERTY
OWNER:
EDGAR PANKEY TRUST
Recommendation
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3680 approving
the environmental documentation; and,
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July 12, 1999
Page 2
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3681 approving
Conditional Use Permit 99-002, Design Review 99-001 and Sign
Code Exception 99-001.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:04 p.m.
Bradley Evanson presented the subject report and noted changes made to the
resolutions.
Marshall Wilkinson, applicant, stated that the property is challenging to develop but he is
pleased with the design. He stated his desire to have no restrictions placed on the hours
of operation.
Chairperson Pontious asked staff if the hours could be amended at a later date.
The Director responded that a portion of the conditional use permit could be amended.
Marshall Wilkinson, applicant, stated that it would be logical to have a 24 hour operation
next to the freeway. He stated their desire to locate the trash enclosure at the rear
service door of the restaurant and would use landscaping to screen it from view. He
asked the Planning Commission to consider delaying a decision on the pole sign.
Commissioner Kozak asked the applicant if he considered placing the trash enclosure
elsewhere on the site.
Marshall Wilkinson, applicant, stated he had considered placing the trash enclosure at the
far east end of the lot.
Commissioner Kozak asked if a portion of the enclosure wall would be set in the berm.
The applicant submitted photos for the Commission's review.
Marshall Wilkinson, applicant, responded that there was no room for a berm and noted
that Cai Trans will be taking property from the southeast corner to expand the freeway
offramp.
Commissioner Kawashima asked if trash trucks would be a disturbance to customers with
the trash enclosure at the proposed location.
Marshall Wilkinson, applicant, replied that the trash trucks would be scheduled during the
time the restaurant is closed.
Commissioner Browne asked how far above the berm the trash enclosure is set.
Marshall Wilkinson, applicant, stated that the six foot cement block wall would be adjacent
to the future sidewalk.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:19 p.m.
Commissioner Davert stated he met with the applicant and believes having the trash
enclosure by the back door is the best solution and he is comfortable with the proposal to
screen the trash enclosure.
Chairperson Pontious asked if the landscaping could be conditioned and asked for photo
simulations on the pole sign.
The Director responded that Condition 4.1.2 could be modified to indicate that the trash
enclosure shall be submitted for review by the Community Development Department for
materials and screening.
Commissioner Davert stated the photo simulations showing the sign at various heights
would be helpful.
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Commissioner Kawashima asked for the background on previously approved signs in the
area.
Bradley Evanson responded that the Taco Bell sign was approved as a sign code
exception in 1995 and the Cad's Jr. sign was also a sign code exception.
The Director noted that the Planning Commission should consider visibility and the
differential of lots with respect to the freeway and suggested the applicant could provide a
photo simulation depicting the visibility if the sign met the code or how high it would need
to be to be visible.
Commissioner Browne asked staff if a curb might encourage traffic to turn right.
Doug Anderson stated that in the traffic analysis splitting the traffic between the two
intersections worked best for the on-site circulation.
Commissioner Kozak asked if it would be helpful for the applicant to install a right turn
only sign and asked if the landscaping plan addresses public trees.
Bradley Evanson stated that the plan does not include plants in the public right of way.
The applicant indicated that they did not have a problem with installing a right turn only
sign.
The Director recommended that if there is consensus on the remaining aspects of the
project that the Planning Commission exclude references to the pole sign from the
resolution and continue that portion of the hearing to August 9"'.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to adopt Resolution
No. 3680 approving the environmental documentation for Conditional Use Permit
99-002, Design Review 99-001 and Sign Code Exception 99-001. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Kozak moved, Commissioner Davert seconded, to adopt Resolution
No. 3681 approving Conditional Use Permit 99-002, Design Review 99-001 and a
portion of Sign Code Exception 99-001, amended as follows:
Throughout entire resolution, where numbers are indicated, written format should
be inserted and parentheses added around the numerical form.
Heading statement: third line, delete "A PORTION OF"; seventh line delete "AND
DENYING A PORTION OF SIGN CODE EXCEPTION 99-001, A REQUEST TO
CONSTRUCT A FIFTY (50) FOOT TALL 180 SQUARE FOOT FREEWAY SIGN"
I.A: Sign Code Exception 99-001 becomes Sign Code Exception 99-001(A); sixth
line delete "and a single fifty (50) foot high pole sign"
I.D. 3): 10:00 a.m. becomes 6:00 a.m.
F.1. delete second paragraph which starts "The proposed location of the pole
sign..."
F.2: delete "The proposed pole sign appears out of scale with the proposed
project."
F.3: delete "pole and"
F.4: delete second paragraph starting "The proposed fifty (50) foot tall pole sign..."
F.5: Delete second sentence in second paragraph "The proposed pole sign..."
I1.1: Conditional Use Permit 99-002 becomes Conditional Use Permit 99-002(A)
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11.2: Sign Code Exception 99-001 becomes Sign Code Exception 99-001(A)
11.3: deleted in its entirety
Condition 1.4: CUP 99-002 becomes CUP 99-002(A) and SCE 99-001 becomes SCE
99-001(A)
Condition 2.1.D: delete second sentence "Expanded information..."
Condition 3.1: delete "and the proposed freeway sign shall be eliminated from the
sign plans"
Condition 4.12 changed to read: "The landscape screening and architectural
design of the trash enclosure shall be subject to approval by the Community
Development Department."
Condition 4.14: second sentence inserted to read: "In addition to the directional
striping on the plans, a right-turn only exit sign shall be installed at the end of the
drive-thru aisle subject to review and approval by the Community Development
Department and the City's Traffic Engineer."
Condition 4.15: first sentence deleted "A preview board..."
Condition 4.16 changed to read: "The property owner shall dedicate a parcel
twelve (12) feet of additional street right-of-way along El Camino Real from the
existing end curb return (ECR) at the southeast corner of Red Hill Avenue and El
Camino Real to the easterly boundary of the subject property, plus an additional
parcel for the appropriate corner cut-off from the existing begin curb return (BCR)
to the existing ECR at the southeast corner of Red Hill Avenue and El Camino
Real for future street widening. Provide legal descriptions and sketches as
prepared by a California Registered Civil Engineer or California Licensed Land
Surveyor. These legal descriptions and sketches are to be submitted to the
Engineering Division for review and approval prior to issuance of building
permits.
All dedications and/or offers of dedication shall also state that the City of Tustin
shall be permitted to obtain, at no cost, a right-of-entry for all on-site joins when the
ultimate street improvements are constructed. The right-of-entry shall terminate on
the date that the Notice of Completion of Public Improvements is recorded at the
Orange County Recorder's Office." Motion carried 5-0.
The Public Hearing was reopened at 7:29 p.m.
Commissioner Kozak moved, Commissioner Davert seconded, continue the pole
sign issue to the August 9, 1999 meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
Public Hearing For Conditional Use Permit 99-013 And Design Review 99-001
are requests to: 1) expand an existing supermarket into 3,200 square feet of
existing vacant space and to construct an additional 8,200 square feet of new floor
area; and, 2) establish shared parking requirements for the Larwin Square
shopping center. The project is located at 550 E. First Street within the First Street
Specific Plan.
APPLICANT/
JEFF HERBST
MCA ARCHITECTS, INC.
PROPERTY
OWNER:
LARWIN SQUARE MANAGEMENT
Recommendation
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3683 approving
the environmental determination for the project; and,
Planning Commission Minutes
July 12, 1999
Page 5
2. That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3684 approving
Conditional Use Permit 99-013 and Design Review 99-019.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:30 p.m.
Bradley Evanson presented the subject report and noted some changes made to the
resolutions.
Commissioner Davert asked if Condition 4.1.6 should be deleted.
Bradley Evanson responded affirmatively.
Chairperson Pontious asked where the trash enclosures were located.
Bradley Evanson responded that trash enclosures were not included as part of the site
plan but as part of project review and approval they will have to be approved by Great
Western Reclamation and sited to allow for appropriate screening and emergency vehicle
access.
Chairperson Pontious asked if the trash enclosure location be conditioned.
The Director read new language for Condition 4.1.6 into the record.
Commissioner Kozak asked if elevation changes could be made to beautify the fiat block
wall by adding texture.
The Director indicated that staff could work with the applicant on the appearance of the
wall but indicated that the wall is adjacent to a service road.
Jeff Herbst, applicant, asked if Condition 3.1 could be deleted since new signs are not
being proposed.
The Director indicated that Condition 3.1 could be deleted.
Chairperson Pontious asked if the condition could be amended to apply to new signage
only.
Jeff Herbst, applicant, asked if Condition 4.1.0 related to downspouts applies to the
existing downspouts on the fa(;ade.
The Director indicated that the condition applies to any new downspouts.
Jeff Herbst, applicant, noted that Condition 4.1.2 conflicts with Safeway's prototypical
corporate theme for the entry which encourages customers to enter nearest the produce
department.
Chairperson Pontious stated that the center is eclectic in nature and the entries do not
appear to be too unbalanced.
Commissioner Kawashima asked the applicant if the centerpiece could be redone.
Chairperson Pontious asked for Commission consensus on eliminating Condition 4.1.2.
Commissioner Davert suggested modifying rather than deleting the condition.
Commissioner Kawashima suggested the applicant modify the interior of the store to
direct customers to the produce department.
Commissioner Kozak noted that the condition states similar, not identical and perhaps the
applicant could redesign the entrance.
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Commissioner Kawashima asked the applicant what is proposed for the area where the
store is being expanded.
Jeff Herbst, applicant, stated that the expanded area will contain the bakery and deli.
Commissioner Browne stated that the Commission should allow the applicant to design
the storefront as they wish.
Commissioner Kozak asked the applicant if they could add trim to give the rear building
wall more character.
Jeff Herbst, applicant, responded that would be possible but that it would not be money
well spent as the car wash remodel landscaping will hide any improvements to the wall.
Chairperson Pontious asked for a vote for removing Condition 4.1.2.
Commissioner Browne moved, Commissioner Davert seconded, to remove
Condition 4.1.2. Motion carried 4-1. Commissioner Kawashima was opposed.
Dick Kaye, property manager for Larwin Square, asked if Condition 4.1.4 refers to the
rear of the building there was another condition he referenced and it was deleted.
Bradley Evanson stated that the condition was supposed to be an adjunct to the Orange
County Fire Authority emergency access that it be striped for emergency access.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:50 p.m.
Commissioner Kozak moved, Commissioner Kawashima seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3683 approving the environmental determination for the project.
Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Kawashima seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3684, approving Conditional Use Permit 99-013 and Design Review
99-019 amended as follows:
Condition 2.6 changed to read: "Within thirty (30) days from the date of project
approval, the Owner shall submit a complete and accurate restriping plan for the
parking areas, subject to approval by the Community Development Department.
Said improvements shall be installed within ninety (90) days from the date of
project approval. Said plan shall be fully dimensioned, include a table
summarizing the number of spaces within the parking area and their allocation to
the individual tenant spaces within the center, and incorporate landscaping in
conformance with the City of Tustin Landscape and Irrigation Guidelines."
Condition 3.1: last sentence changed to read "All new signage shall conform to the
Larwin Square Master Sign Program."
Condition 4.10 changed to read: "No new exterior downspouts shall be permitted;
all new construction regarding roof drainage shall utilize interior piping, but may
have exterior outlets at base of building."
Condition 4.12 is deleted in its entirety and new Condition 4.12 to read: "The trash
enclosure screening and landscaping shall be submitted for review and approval
by the Community Development Department."
Conditions 4.16 and 4.17 are deleted in their entirety.
Motion carried 5-0.
Conditional Use Permit 99-015, Design Review 99-014, and Tentative Parcel
Map 99-161 are requests to: 1) combine three lots into one; 2) construct a 10,716
square foot building; and, 3) establish a mail order use and apply warehouse and
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industry parking ratio. The project is located at 145-165 El Camino Real within the
Central Commercial Combining Parking District (C-2P).
APPLICANT:
GREGORY BENNETT, ARCHITECT
PROPERTY
OWNERS:
PRESCOTT PROPERTIES, LLC.
Recommendation
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3678 approving
the environmental documentation for the project.
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3679
recommending that the City Council approve Tentative Parcel Map
99-161.
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3682 approving
Conditional Use Permit 99-015 and Design Review 99-014.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:51 p.m.
Lori Ludi presented the subject report.
Jennifer Rigby, co-owner of Acorn, stated that Acorn was established in Tustin in 1990
and their present location is overcrowded. She further stated that the Craftsman style
architecture was chosen because it best reflects the essence of their company and Old
Town Tustin.
Guy Stivers, landscape architect, stated that the project is unique and the property will be
beneficial as an educational tool.
Audrey Heredia, President of Tustin Old Town Association (TOTA), stated that TOTA
embraces the project and it will be a wonderful addition to Old Town Tustin.
Phil Cox, owner Cox's Market Plaza, stated his support for the project.
Mike Doyle, resident 160 A Street, stated that the project is impressive and necessary to
Old Town Tustin.
Greg Kelly, secretary for TOTA, complimented the Prescott's and the Rigby's on their
work and suggested perhaps a mural or artwork would benefit the project.
Caren Sanford, resident 2800 Keller Drive, stated her support for the project.
Ken Teschke, resident 2322 Apple Tree Drive, stated his support of the project.
Tim Somerset, Pankow Companies, builder for applicant, stated that his company is
capable of completing the project in a short time and displayed some projects his
company completed in the past.
Doug Prescott, property owner, thanked staff for fast-tracking the project and asked that
Condition 2.3 be removed and reduce the number of required parking spaces to thirty
seven (37) and noted a typo in Condition 5.5.
Greg Bennett, architect, stated his concern with staff trying to alter the plans as drawn
which might hinder future expansion plans.
Commissioner Davert asked Greg if the back door would function as a loading door only.
Greg Bennett, architect, responded that the back door was strictly a service entrance for
shipping purposes.
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Commissioner Browne inquired about the approximate number of trucks per day.
Greg Bennett, architect, stated that one (1) truck per day would be adequate for the
needs of the business.
Commissioner Kawashima asked Greg what was planned in place of the four (4) parking
spaces that are requested to be eliminated.
Greg Bennett, architect, indicated that more landscaping would be installed.
The meeting recessed at 8:44 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 8:50 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:51 p.m.
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney, stated that the Planning Commission cannot consider
an issue discussed in private with Mr. Bennett. Any issues or information that the
Commission uses in its decision making should be made part of the record.
Commissioner Kawashima asked staff about the suggested changes to the rear
elevation.
Lori Ludi stated this was to maintain consistency in all elevations.
Commissioner Browne stated that he responds negatively to Mr. Bennett's
characterization of staff and he supports deleting Condition 2.3.
Commissioner Kozak stated his support for removing Condition 2.3.
Commissioner Davert stated that although he did meet with the applicant, nothing was
discussed that was not being discussed during the hearing. He further stated that the
City has an excellent staff and he supports the removal of Condition 2.3 and it would not
be fair to hold the applicant to retail counts for parking.
Commissioner Browne stated that Condition 5.1 should be taken out and then put back in
if the site is underparked.
The Director stated that the applicant should modify the plan to show a higher level ratio
for the mail order area to accommodate the four spaces so the actual square footage
should be higher than the retail or office area.
Chairperson Pontious asked the applicant if that would be a problem for them.
The applicant indicated that would not be a problem.
Commissioner Kawashima noted the applicant's interest in the adjoining lot and asked
the applicant if that site would be another building site or additional parking.
Chairperson Pontious noted that the question does not relate to this project.
Commissioner Browne moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3678 approving the environmental documentation for the project.
Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Browne moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3679, as amended, recommending that the City Council approve
Tentative Parcel Map 99-161. Motion carried 5-0.
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Commissioner Browne moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3682, approving Conditional Use Permit 99-015 and Design Review
99-014 amended as follows:
Condition 2.3 deleted in its entirety and renumber subsequent conditions.
Condition 2.9 change "must" to "shall"
Condition 5.1: change "thirty-eight (38)" to "thirty-three (33)" in first sentence and
last sentence and change "7 spaces" to "6 spaces" in last sentence.
Condition 5.2: changed to read "A total of 2,704 square feet of mail order use and
2,344 square feet of retail use shall be located on the first floor. A total of 771
square feet of office use and 4,290 square feet of mail order use shall be located
on the second floor. Any modifications to this allocation of uses may be
considered by the Community Development Department if sufficient on-site
parking is provided or off-site parking is secured by the applicant or property
owner.
Condition 5.5: capitalize "c" and "o" in Certificate of Occupancy; change "building
permits" to "a Certificate of Occupancy"
Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
5. Report on Actions taken at the July 6, 1999 City Council Meeting
Elizabeth A. Binsack, Director of Community Development reported on the subject
agenda.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Chairperson Pontious
Thanked Commissioner Browne for serving as a Planning Commissioner
and asked staff to prepare a proclamation.
Commissioner Kawashima
Also thanked Commissioner Browne for serving as a Planning
Commissioner.
Asked if the second meeting in July was cancelled.
The Director indicated that there were no items to be agendized so the meeting
has been cancelled.
Asked if fireworks were permitted in the City.
The Director indicated that they were only permitted when used by a professional.
Commissioner Kozak
Stated that Commissioner Browne would be missed and asked him to keep
in touch.
Commissioner Davert
Stated that the City did a great job on the 4~ of July celebration and wished
Commissioner Browne good luck.
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Commissioner Browne
Stated that he has enjoyed serving as a Planning Commissioner and
thanked staff for their support. He further noted that every citizen should
have a chance to serve on the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Browne moved, Commissioner Davert seconded, to adjourn the
meeting at 9:06 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission will be held on August 9, 1999 beginning
at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin.
.9~eve 'ol~k
Chairperson
Elizabeth A. Binsack
Planning Commission Secretary