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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 13, 1998
CALL TO ORDER:
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Kozak
INVOCATION:
Commissioner Davert
ROLL CALL
Commissioners
Present:
Howard Mitzman, Chairman
Scott Browne
Douglass Davert
Steve Kozak
Leslie Pontious
Staff
Present:
Elizabeth Binsack, Director of Community Development
Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney
Lori Ludi, Associate Planner
Bradley Evanson, Assistant Planner
Kathy Martin, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS: (Limited to 3 minutes per person for items not on the agenda.)
No Public Concerns were expressed.
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CONSENT CALENDAR:
(ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER CONSENT CALENDAR
ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY
ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE
DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS PRIOR TO THE TIME OF
THE VOTING ON THE MOTION UNLESS MEMBERS OF
THE COMMISSION, STAFF OR PUBLIC REQUEST
SPECIFIC ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED AND/OR REMOVED
FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR SEPARATE
ACTION.)
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of the June 22, 1998 Planning Commission Meeting.
2. Sign Code Exception 98-002 a request for authorization to install three strands of
festoons along the parking aisles in the center. The center is located at 1112 Walnut
Avenue within the Commercial General District (CG)
APPLICANT:
BONANZA MARKET
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PROPERTY
OWNERS:
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission
Exception 98-002.
REMARC MANAGEMENT INC. - PARK LANE PLAZA
adopt Resolution No. 3602 approving Sign Code
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
3. Continued Public Hearing -Conditional Use Permit 98-011 a request to establish
off-site alcoholic beverage sales (type 20: beer and wine) in conjunction with a self and
full serve carwash. The project is located at 3091 E. Edinger Avenue within the Planned
Community Industrial- Jamboree Plaza Planned Community District regulations.
APPLICANT/
PROPERTY
OWNER
TOM ROSSI
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission continue the public hearing for Conditional Use Permit 98-
011 until the regularly scheduled meeting on August 10, 1998.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Davert seconded, to continue the
public hearing to the August 10, 1998 Planning Commission meeting at the request
of the applicant. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Continued Public Hearing Conditional Use Permit 98-013 a request to establish
off-site alcoholic beverage sales (type 20: beer and wine) in conjunction with a service
station and convenience store. The project is located at the northeast intersection of
Edinger Avenue and Jamboree Plaza Drive within the Planned Community Industrial -
Jamboree Plaza Planned Community District Regulations.
APPLICANT:
THE MERIDIAN GROUP
PROPERTY
OWNER:
ROGER DE YOUNG FAMILY, L.P.
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission continue the public hearing for Conditional Use Permit 98-
013 until the regularly scheduled meeting on August 10, 1998.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to continue the
public hearing to the August 10, 1998 Planning Commission meeting at the request
of the applicant. Motion carried 5-0.
5. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 97-028 AND
DESIGN REVIEW 97-036 a request to demolish an existing bank building and establish a
4,000 square foot fast food restaurant with drive-thru operations within a commercial
center. The project is located at 14601 Red Hill Avenue within the Central Commercial
(C-2) district.
OWNE~
JILL RICHTER
APPLICANT:
MASROOR A. BATLA
BATLA FOOD GROUP
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RECOMMENDATION
Approve the Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 3594; and,
Approve Conditional Use Permit 97-028 and Design Review 97-036 by adopting
Resolution No. 3595.
Bradley Evanson, Assistant Planner presented the subject report.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:10 p.m.
Coralee Newman, applicant, complemented staff and stated agreement with all conditions
except 8.1 preferring the drive-thru and the restaurant to have the same hours of
operation.
The Director noted that staff was given four letters from residents of the Tustin Green
Association opposing the project due to noise, odor, safety issues and increase in traffic.
Gabrielle Saasta, 14707 Red Hill Avenue, stated her concerns with noise, trash,
trespassers and gang activity increasing.
Commissioner Browne asked if the homeowner association had attempted to solicit
desirable merchants for the location.
James Campbell, 1425 Sycamore Avenue, stated his concem with land use compatibility,
traffic, odor and trespassing also referenced additional mitigation measures suggested in
his letter.
Suanne Honey, 14625 Red Hill Avenue, stated her concem with accidents generated
from the driveways.
Ken Henderson, 14645 Red Hill Avenue, stated his concern with noise and additional
traffic.
Carla Brame, 14641 Red Hill Avenue, stated her concern with traffic, noise and odor.
Andy Schiller, Red Hill Avenue, stated his concern with noise from the loudspeaker and
commercial and residentially zoned properties in close proximity.
Frederick Honey, 14625 Red Hill Avenue, inquired if the noise study was done at night
and noted several accidents by the driveways.
Carole Wade, 14633 Red Hill Avenue, stated her concern with traffic safety for bicyclists
and pedestrians and that children will loiter at the restaurant.
Larry Manley, 14651 Red Hill Avenue, stated his concern with odor and noise.
Janis Eason, 14621 Red Hill Avenue, stated her concern for the safety of children walking
in the area.
Vicki Manley, 14651 Red Hill Avenue, stated her concern with traffic and the block wall
obstructing view of children in the area.
Jason Petrocich, asked for the minimum tree height being requested and stated his
concem with dust from demolition of the existing building.
Bob Zeis stated his concern with odor, safety and the possibility of Red Hill Avenue
becoming a super street.
Matt Nisson stated his support for improvement of the commercial center and noted that
the block wall on his property effectively screens noise.
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Coralee Newman, applicant, stated that the two land uses have co-existed for many
years; the noise study was done in the evening; fifteen gallon trees will be installed; and,
stated that a catalytic converter will eliminate odor.
Commissioner Browne asked the applicant if they had considered moving the property to
the north.
Masroor Batla, applicant, stated that the current bank building is about the same size as
the restaurant and has an existing drive-thru pattern and he has not approached the
property owner with the option of moving the building.
Commissioner Davert stated that he has visited the site, read the correspondence and is
excited about the economic renewal of the area and noted that the project does comply
with the City's codes and standards.
Commissioner Kozak stated his excitement for the revitalization of the area; noted that
the properties have co-existed for many years; and suggested an additional order board
with read-out function and raising the block wall to buffer noise.
Commissioner Pontious noted that the applicant has endeavored to mitigate the
residents' concerns and in her experience, the fears projected are greater than the reality
and supports the proposal.
Chairman Mitzman stated his approval of the land-swap suggested by Commissioner
Browne and noted that he can smell odors from the McDonalds on Bryan and Tustin
Ranch Road.
Commissioner Browne inquired where the noise measurement was taken.
Daniel Fox responded that the report does not state conclusively where the measurement
was done and staff could add a condition of approval to require a more complete noise
study.
Commissioner Browne asked Doug Anderson, Traffic Engineer for clarification on points
raised during the hearing.
Doug Anderson, stated that the decision to increase lanes on Red Hill Avenue has been
deferred until the Eastern Transportation Corridor opens; noted that Engineering does a
preliminary assessment on projects to determine if an additional traffic study is warranted;
and, noted that between 1993 and July 12"~ there have been 15 accidents at this location
and noted that the initial study should say "no significant impact" for circulation.
Commissioner Pontious asked for Mr. Anderson's opinion of diverting drive-thru traffic to
the north.
Doug Anderson responded that staff would be supportive of directing drive-thru traffic to
the north.
Commissioner Davert asked if the property could be periodically monitored for accidents.
Doug Anderson noted that the property could be monitored on a monthly basis.
Commissioner Pontious asked if a condition could be added for dust suppression.
The Director indicated that dust suppression techniques are required during demolition
and construction.
Commissioner Pontious asked if staff could revisit the Tustin Greens' request for gates.
Doug Anderson responded that typically when gates are added to a property that is
already developed there is a concern with vehicles backing up across sidewalks or into
the public right-of-way.
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The Director responded that staff would need to review the specific location.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to approve the
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution No. 3594. Item
6.a on checklist being changed to "Potentially significant - unless mitigation is
incorporated". Motion carried 4-1. Chairman Mitzman was opposed.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to approve
Conditional Use Permit 97-028 and Design Review 97-036 by adopting Resolution
No. 3595, amended as follows:
Condition 5.7 to read: "Sight distances at each access driveway shall be reviewed for
compliance with Orange County EMA Standard Plan 1117, when landscaping and
improvement plans are prepared, including the existing perimeter block wall."
Condition 4.15 added as follows: A preview board shall be installed prior to the
menu board/speaker. The menu board shall have a read back feature. Details of
the menu board system shall be subject to final approval of the Community
Development Director during plan check.
Condition 6.2 added as follows: All uses and operations on the site shall comply
with the City's Noise Ordinance. Speakers used in conjunction with the menu
board shall be oriented so as to project sound away from the adjacent residential
development. A final noise analysis shall be prepared based on the final working
drawings to determine compliance with the City's Noise Ordinance. Said noise
analysis shall be reviewed and approved by the Community Development
Department prior to issuance of building permits. The height of the two sound
walls shall be reviewed and evaluated as part of the noise analysis, and raised to
the maximum height feasible to achieve noise mitigation.
Condition 8.1 changed to read: Hours of operation of the restaurant and drive thru
lane shall be limited to 6:00 a.m, to 11:00 p.m. Sunday through Thursday and 6:00
a.m. to Midnight on Friday and Saturday.
Motion carried 3-2. Chairman Mitzman and Commissioner Browne were opposed.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:44 p.m.
The appeal process was explained.
6. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 98-010 a request for authorization to construct a
major wireless communication facility at 550 West Sixth Street located within the Planned
Industrial District (PM).
APPLICANT:
NEXTEL COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
PROPERTY
OWNER:
TUSTIN SELF STORAGE LIMITED
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3601 denying Conditional Use
Permit 98-010.
Bradley Evanson, Assistant Planner presented the subject report.
The Public Hearing opened at 8:46 p.m.
Barbara Saito, applicant, thanked staff, presented photos of facilities mentioned in staff
report, stated that the project meets the City's ordinance and stated that three real trees
could be added to the landscape.
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Chairman Mitzman inquired if the original request has changed to add three live trees.
Barbara Saito responded that her proposal would be one stealth and 2 or 3 live trees.
Commissioner Browne inquired if the applicant had gotten the property owner's approval
for the additional trees.
Barbara Saito stated that she had not but would not be able to continue with the project if
the property owner did not approve.
The Director noted that a phone call was received from Jeff Thompson, a resident who
had concerns with visual intrusion.
Bradley Evanson noted that additional trees were not proposed in the original submittal
however, a subsequent resubmittal identified the potential for additional trees although
quantity and location were not specified.
Commissioner Browne asked if the hearing would have to be renoticed for the change.
The Director indicated that if the Commission wished, they could direct staff to prepare a
resolution of approval with conditions to be brought back to another meeting.
Commissioner Davert asked if the additional trees were significant mitigation.
The Director responded that staff would still recommend denial of the proposal because it
is not appropriate and is intrusive of the area and requested the Commission's direction.
Commissioner Kozak suggested the Cai Trans right of way as a location.
Barbara Saito indicated that the right of way is closer to residential uses.
Commissioner Pontious inquired if the applicant spoke with the Boys and Girls Club since
they have indicated an interest in pursuing a site at their location and asked if the hearing
be continued so the applicant could pursue an agreement with the Boys and Gids Club.
Barbara Saito responded that they had not but if the hearing were continued, she would
pursue location at the Boys and Girls Club.
Commissioner Davert stated his concern about the Commission getting involved with
contract negotiations.
Chairman Mitzman suggested a 30 day continuance for a formal proposal for more trees.
Commissioner Kozak requested the applicant to provide proof of property owner approval
and renderings.
Commissioner Davert asked if the applicant was under time constraints.
Barbara Saito stated she would be able to provide the necessary information in time for
the next meeting's packet.
Commissioner Davert asked staff if two weeks continuance was enough time to complete
the packet for the next meeting and if a variance would be required if a more suitable
location were found but is within 100 feet.
The Director responded that a variance would not be required since the ordinance is
wdtten as "should be located" but staff has identified that they would prefer not within 100
feet.
Commissioner Davert asked what staff would suggest as an alternative.
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The Director indicated that staff stated it would be acceptable to blend the monopole
more into the area by following the eucalyptus streetscape.
Commissioner Davert asked what direction should be given to the applicant.
The Director asked if the applicant were to provide cluster palms would that be
acceptable to the Commission.
Commissioner Davert asked if the Commission could approve the additional palms at this
meeting.
The Director responded that staff did not have a resolution of approval to provide the
Commission at this meeting.
Chairman Mitzman and Commissioner Pontious stated that they would like the applicant
to approach the Boys and Gids Club about location.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to continue the
hearing to the August 10, 1998 meeting. Motion carried 4-1. Commissioner Davert
was opposed.
The Public Hearing closed at 9:24 p.m.
The Commission recessed for five minutes.
7. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 98-015 a request for authorization to establish
instructional sessions, as a temporary use, for in-line skating in the parking area in front of
the Chick's Sporting Goods. The project is located at 2771 El Camino Real within the
East Tustin Specific Plan (ETSP) Mixed Used.
APPLICANT:
PONITE WEST/CHICKS SPORTING GOODS
PROPERTY
OWNERS:
IRVINE COMPANY
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3600 approving Conditional Use
Permit 98-015.
Daniel Fox, Senior Planner, AICP presented the subject report.
Commissioner Davert inquired if the applicant would need to come back to the Planning
Commission for a time extension.
Daniel Fox stated that the permit was worded so that the Community Development
Director could approve a time extension.
The Public Hearing opened at 9:35 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed at 9:35 p.m.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Browne seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3600 approving Conditional Use Permit 98-015. Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
8. Continued Item - Exposed Neon Tubing Design Standards
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission provide direction on the proposed additions and
modifications to the Design Standards. Based on the Planning Commission's direction,
staff will prepare revised draft Design Standards, code amendment and an appropriate
Resolution recommending for City Council consideration.
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Lori Ludi, Associate Planner presented the subject report.
Commissioner Pontious stated that the standards look good but she has a problem with
limiting the neon to the business' hours of operation.
Daniel Fox noted that majority of tenants in commercial centers will close at a fairly
consistent hour.
Commissioner Kozak commented on the standards.
Commissioner Browne moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to approve the
Design Standards, as amended, to be forwarded to the City Council for their
consideration. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
9. Report on Actions taken at the July 7, 1998 City Council Meetinq
Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director presented the subject report.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to receive and file.
Motion carried 5-0.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Kozak
Inquired about the status of the Arco station on Red Hill.
Daniel Fox responded that since the CUP was approved, work has been done but
improvement is needed on the landscape planters.
Commissioner Browne
Noted that he would not be in attendance for the July 27th meeting.
Stated that he had attended a Tustin Concert in the Park and found it very
enjoyable.
Thanked Chairman Mitzman for his service on the Commission.
Commissioner Davert
Asked staff if the City had received a response to the Mayor's letter to
Supervisor Spitzer.
Elizabeth Binsack responded that the County has acquired the property and is in
the process of enclosing the property.
Chairman Mitzman
Thanked staff for their assistance during his tenure and rated them very
highly as compared to other cities and also thanked the Commission for
allowing him to serve as Chairman.
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ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Kozak seconded, to adjourn the
meeting at 9:50 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission will be held on July 27, 1998 beginning at
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin.
VICE CHAIR
EL-'~_ABE~H A. BINSAC~ - '
PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY