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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 27, 1998
CALL TO ORDER:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
INVOCATION:
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners
Present:
Absent:
Staff
Present:
6:59 p.m., City Council Chambers
Commissioner Davert
Browne, Davert, Kozak, Mitzman, and Pontious
Howard Mitzman, Chairman
Scott Browne
Douglass Davert
Leslie Pontious
Steve Kozak
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney
Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Lori Ludi, Associate Planner
Kathy Martin, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS: (Limited to 3 minutes per person for items not on the agenda.)
Mr. Gregory Esslair, Orange County branch of Vietnam Veterans of America, Chapter
785 stated that the branch had been meeting at the helicopter base and would like to
continue meeting in Tustin after the helicopter base closes.
The Director asked Mr. Esslair to give her a number where he can be reached and she
will have someone contact him about finding a new meeting location.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of the April 13, 1998 Planning Commission Meetinq.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Davert seconded, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING - CONSIDERATION TO REVOKE VARIANCE 94-
010, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 97-004, AND DESIGN REVIEW 97-008 (AL'S
WOODCRAFT)
Background: On March 24, 1997, the Planning Commission adopted Resolution No.
3517 approving the subject Variance, Conditional Use Permit and Design Review to:
reduce the required parking from 34 spaces to 21 spaces; establish an outdoor sales
and display area; construct a new parking lot; and, make other site, landscaping and
building improvements. The parking lot for the property has been incomplete and in
violation of the City Code for failure to comply with the parking requirements since
1991. This item was continued from the August 25, October 27, and December 8, 1997
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Planning Commission meetings to provide the applicant an opportunity to maintain the
plan check schedule required by Condition No. 1.3.B. of Planning Commission
Resolution No. 3517.
Recommendation; Provide direction to staff and continue this item to May 11, 1998.
Daniel Fox, AICP, Senior Planner presented the subject report.
Chairman Mitzman inquired about the number of years staff has worked on this case.
Daniel Fox responded the project has been open for seven years.
Commissioner Davert asked staff if they believed there was a reason the project could not
have been completed in seven years and if the matter is referred to the City Attorney
what would transpire.
The Director responded that the improvements could be completed in a couple of months
if diligently pursued.
Lois Bobak responded that the City Attorney could either pursue the matter as a civil
nuisance abatement or a criminal proceeding for violation of the zoning code.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:06 p.m.
Manuel Perez, architect, stated that the interior work is almost complete.
Chairman Mitzman inquired if the owner was present and if Al's Woodcraft owned the
building.
Manuel Perez stated that the owner of Al's Woodcraft was present and he does own the
building and Al's Woodcraft has been involved in litigation since the taking by Cai Trans.
Bill Dunn, general contractor, stated that the weather has affected the project and
believed it would take six months to complete the project.
Chairman Mitzman inquired if the property owner's contract has a deadline or completion
date with penalties if the contractor does not complete the job.
Bill Dunn responded there was no deadline and no penalty.
Commissioner Pontious asked the applicant if they were aware of the construction
timelines when they appeared before the Commission in December.
Chairman Mitzman stated that six months for completion of the project is excessive.
Daniel Fox stated that the interior work has been the applicant's choice while the permits
were issued for the exterior work which is the City's priority.
Lois Bobak stated that the applicant may want to explain their method for calculation of
the six months.
Bill Dunn stated that the building is receiving a facelift with a lot of intricate and
ornamental work.
The Director stated that the parking lot improvements were required by the City, not the
cosmetic improvements, and the applicant should give first priority to what is required by
the city code.
Commissioner Pontious asked the applicant how much time they would need to complete
the parking lot.
Bill Dunn responded 2 months.
Manuel Perez stated that the applicant has been working toward successful conclusion
but may not be as quickly as the City would like but the work is being done.
Bill Mathis owner of Al's Woodcraft, stated that his business lost money after the taking
and he has struggled to pay for the project.
Chairman Mitzman asked the applicant how much Cai Trans gave him for compensation.
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Bill Mathis responded that Cai Trans gave him a couple hundred thousand for the
improvements.
Commissioner Pontious stated her concern that if the City were to grant an extension
they have no assurance the applicant will complete the project by a deadline.
The Director recommended that the Commission continue the matter to the next meeting
with Mr. Mathis agreeing to a compliance bond.
Barbara Mathis stated that it is impractical to do the exterior work first and the project was
delayed because they were waiting for the City to tell them where the property line was on
Red Hill.
Commissioner Browne asked the applicant if they were aware of tasks to be done when
they pulled the permits.
Barbara Mathis stated that they did know of the tasks to be done but are working in a
manner to minimize the inconvenience of customers.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:33 p.m.
Commissioner Davert stated that he finds the applicant's statements inconsistent and has
concerns about the precedent being set and asked staff what pressure the Commission
can put on the applicant.
Commissioner Pontious stated her agreement with Commissioner Davert and believes a
penalty should be attached if a deadline is missed.
Chairman Mitzman stated his agreement with Commissioners Davert and Pontious.
Commissioner Pontious recommended that the Commission take staffs suggestion and
continue the hearing to May 11th to allow staff to produce a schedule with compliance a
bond attached.
The Director stated that it would be appropriate for the Commission to provide clear
direction to staff.
Commissioner Davert stated that he would like to see the matter go directly to the City
Attorney if the applicant does not comply.
Lois Bobak stated the City Attorney's office would come back to the Commission with a
resolution of revocation if the construction is not complete.
The Public Hearing reopened at 7:41 p.m.
Manuel Perez stated that he understands the City's issue is the parking lot and striping.
Daniel Fox stated that the design review, variance and conditional use permit include the
exterior of the building, parking lot, landscaping, and exterior building improvements
including the outdoor patio area and the applicant has not provided staff with a
construction phasing schedule.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:46 p.m.
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Browne seconded, to continue the
public hearing to the May 11, 1998 Planning Commission meeting to allow staff the
opportunity to work on a construction schedule with the applicant. Motion carried
4-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
3. SERVICE STATION DESIGN GUIDELINES
Background: In July 1997, the Planning Commission requested that policies and format
of the existing Service Station Guidelines be revisited. The Commission noted that
service station developers would benefit from updated guidelines that would clearly
summarize the City's policies on the design standards of auto service businesses
allowing staff to give consistent direction to potential applicants.
Recommendation: Provide direction as deemed appropriate.
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Lori Ludi, Associate Planner presented the subject report.
Commissioner Browne stated his appreciation with the report but wanted to be assured of
flexibility.
Lori Ludi stated that these are strictly guidelines and there would be flexibility.
Commissioner Davert congratulated Lori on a job well done and stated his concern with
enforceability when using the word "should" and that he would like to have Commissioner
Kozak's input on the guidelines before the Commission takes any action.
Daniel Fox stated that the difference with "shall" and "should" is that "should" is a
guideline and "shall" is typically a code requirement and noted that there are two cities in
the survey that have a reverse building design in their zoning code.
Commissioner Davert stated that he would like the language to be strengthened.
Lois Bobak stated that the guidelines provide a basis for findings to deny a discretionary
application and the only way to remedy the guidelines versus code requirement issue is
to develop the guidelines into an ordinance and amend the code.
Commissioner Pontious stated that she would prefer a code ordinance.
The Director stated that she would contact Commissioner Kozak and obtain his input.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Commissioner Davert seconded, to continue the
item to the May 26, 1998 Planning Commission meeting to allow staff time to
contact Commissioner Kozak for input and to rewrite the guidelines as an
ordinance. Motion carried 4-0.
4. Status Report
Recommendation: Receive and File
Daniel Fox, AICP, Senior Planner presented the subject report.
STAFF CONCERNS:
5. Report on Actions taken at the April 20, 1998 City Council Meetinq
Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director reported on the subject agenda.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Davert
- Noted that Tustin Pride did some landscaping at the Tustin Boys and Girls
Club for Volunteer Connection Day.
- Stated that he visited some tracts in Tustin Ranch which were approved
since he has been on the Commission and was impressed with the quality.
- Reported that the brickwall shrubbery at the corner of Bryan Avenue and
Cindy is overgrown.
The Director stated that staff would look into the problem.
Commissioner Pontious
- Stated that the ivy at Nisson is growing very well.
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Chairman Mitzman
Asked when Commission terms are expiring and which Commissioners
would be affected.
The Director stated that at the next City Council meeting, the City Clerk will be
asking the Council if they want to extend the Commissioner's terms by seven
months or maintain the current term.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Davert moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to adjourn the
meeting at 8:12 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission will be held on May 11, 1998 beginning at
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin.
~Chairman"
Planning Commission Secretary