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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 24, 1997
CALL TO ORDER:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
INVOCATION:
ROLL CALL
Commissioners
Present:
Staff
Present:
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
Commissioner Steve Kozak
Commissioner Dave Vandaveer
Lou Bone, Chairman
Howard Mitzman
Leslie Pontious
David Vandaveer
Steve Kozak
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney
Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Greg Gubman, Associate Planner
Barbara Reyes, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
There were no public concerns.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of the February 10, 1997 Planninq Commission Meetinq.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Kozak seconded approval of the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Vestinq Tentative Tract Map 14797, Hillside Review 96-001,
Desiqn Review 96-045 And Conditional Use Permit 96-03R
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CATELLUS RESIDENTIAL GROUP
5 PARK PLAZA, SUITE 400
IRVINE, CA 92714
ATTENTION: MR. BRUCE D'ELISCU
THE IRVINE COMPANY
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
ATTENTION: MR. DAVID CONLEY
LOT 11 AND PORTIONS OF LOTS KK, LL AND NN OF TRACT
13627; NORTHWESTERLY CORNER OF PIONEER ROAD AND
JAMBOREE ROAD
MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL (10 UNITS PER ACRE
MAXIMUM DENSITY)/HILLSIDE DISTRICT -
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN (ETSP)
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. TO SUBDIVIDE A 29.47-ACRE SITE INTO 122
NUMBERED LOTS AND 36 LETTERED LOTS FOR THE
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February 24, 1997
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PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING 122 SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED DWELLING UNITS;
APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A
CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO THE CLUSTER
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE EAST TUSTIN
SPECIFIC PLAN;
APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND
ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE PROJECT;
DETERMINATION THAT THE CONCEPTUAL GRADING
PLANS, LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN
ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES AND
GUIDELINES OF THE HILLSIDE DISTRICT
REQUIREMENTS OF THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN.
Recommendation
That the Planning Commission take the following
actions:
Adopt Resolution No. 3514 approving the Environmental
Determination for the project;
Adopt Resolution 3515 approving Conditional Use Permit 96-032,
Design Review 96-045 and Hillside Review 96-001; and
Adopt Resolution No. 3516 recommending that the City Council
approve Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14797.
Commissioner Mitzman abstained due to a conflict of interest.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:05 p.m.
Presentation: Greg Gubman, Associate Planner
Commissioner Pontious asked for verification of the second fire
access at the north area along Pioneer Road.
Greq Gubman stated that the Fire Department is satisfied with a
single access and has not required a second access.
Commissioner Bone asked if the private streets of this project
could be changed to public streets at a later date.
The Director stated that any residents of a private streets have
the ability to petition the City to accept their private streets
under certain conditions.
Commissioner Bone recommended adding conditions to require that
should the streets ever be accepted by the City that the streets
meet City standards.
Commissioner Pontious agreed with Commissioner Bone's comment.
Commissioner Bone expressed concern about the fire danger from
eucalyptus trees and asked why these trees were chosen for this
area.
Daniel Fox stated there is no concern from the Fire Department on
this application of eucalyptus trees since they will be irrigated
and maintained by a Homeowners Association.
Bruce D'Eliscu, Vice President, Catellus Residential Group, stated
they could take a second look at the eucalyptus tree question, but
thought the plan followed the tree pallet dictated by the Tustin
Ranch plan.
Daniel Fox stated that the majority of the trees within the west
end fire zone portion of the development are listed as coast live
oak and pepper trees.
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February 24, 1997
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Bill Klassen, Douglas Bender and Associates, civil engineers for
the project, asked the Commission to reword the language in
Resolution 3515, page 8, Condition 4.3 which concerns rooflines
extending above the ridgeline. He stated that in Section 16 at the
north end of the project off of "G" Street, the ridgeline is
depressed and there are rooflines, based on the grading plan, which
extend approximately three feet above the ridgeline. Landscaping
is planned for Lot 95 which should serve as a screen from any view
across the ridgeline. The site could be regraded to lower the pads
three feet but the additional grading and retaining walls required
would be a considerable additional expense to Catellus.
Commissioner Bone asked if this occurred on one lot.
Bill Klassen stated there were actually two lots involved.
Commissioner Bone asked if there would be drainage problems due to
lowering the pads three feet.
Bill Klassen responded there would be no drainage problems but
there would be an additional expense in adding three foot retaining
walls around approximately six lots and lowering the street which
rises to that location.
The Director stated that the Hillside Guidelines and Grading
measures were clear and should have been complied with during site
development of this tract.
Commissioner Pontious stated that the precedents that this would
set are a concern.
Commissioner Bone agreed, this is a sensitive area and would set a
precedent.
Commissioner Kozak stated that since the grading is not complete
the modifications could be accomplished on site quite easily at
this point without a rewording of the Resolution condition.
Commissioner Bone asked how the phases would be sold; if Catellus
was aware of the Noise Ordinance provisions; and, if there were any
changes anticipated in any of the plans.
Bruce D'Eliscu stated that the phasing has been done so that as
residents are moved in there would be other avenues to move the
construction traffic through. Mr. D'Eliscu stated he was aware of
the construction hours noted in the staff report and there are no
anticipated changes in the plans.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:40 p.m.
Commissioner Kozak commented that he likes the greenbelt treatment
over the easement and supports staff recommended actions.
Commissioner Vandaveer commented that he also liked the greenbelt
area and supported the project.
Commissioner Bone stated that he was pleased with the project and
especially appreciated the reduction of the original ten units per
acre to four units per acre.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Vandaveer seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3514 approving the Environmental Determination for
the project. Motion carried 4-0.
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February 24, 1997
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Commissioner Pontious moved, Vandaveer seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3515 approving Conditional Use Permit 96-032, Design
Review 96-045 and Hillside Review 96-001. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Vandaveer seconded, to adopt
Resolution No. 3516 recommending that the City Council approve
Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14797 amended as follows: Exhibit A,
Condition 8.1, add Item "Y" to read, "Ail streets within this
development are private and shall be maintained by the Homeowners
Association. Should, at any time in the future, the Homeowners
Association request that the City accept the streets as public
streets, the Homeowners Association shall be responsible for
modifying all streets to meet the then most current public street
standards, including but not limited to: 1)removal of the vehicle
gates; 2) Modification to the outside radius of the knuckles at
corner intersections; 3) Addition of sidewalks in the private
drives; and, 4) Compliance with the then current Americans With
Disabilities Act (ADA), particularly related to sidewalks, corner
ramps and driveway aprons". Motion carried 4-0.
The Director stated that the applicant has the ability to appeal
any of the conditions of approval to the City Council; however,
with respect to the specific condition related to Lot 95 staff will
have to research the City's Ordinance to determine if the applicant
can request a variance from that standard.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
3. Status Update On Abandoned Siqn Poles at 13922 Red Hill Avenue
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner, AICP
Commissioner Vandaveer abstained from comment on this item due to
conflict of interest.
Commissioner Pontious stated she is in favor of the recommended
action if there is an effort to market the property.
Carl Greenwood, 440 West First Street, Suite 201, stated that a
portion of the property is close to being sold to a substantial
REIT with a commitment to upgrade the shopping center. The poles
may be an incentive to attract tenants to the shopping center.
Commissioner Bone asked if Mr. Pankey owned the vacant lot on the
southwest corner of E1 Camino and Red Hill.
Carl Greenwood stated Mr. Pankey does not, but does own the
northwest corner.
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney, noted that lack of enforcement of
the provisions of the Sign Ordinance which would require the
removal of those pole signs, should not be interpreted as any
guarantee or suggestion that staff will recommend approval of the
project or that the City will approve the project which contains
those existing pole signs.
Commissioner Kozak asked for an update on the progress at the end
of May.
Daniel Fox stated that staff could present an updated report the
first meeting of June 1997.
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February 24, 1997
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By minute action, the Commission approved the recommendations
contained in the report and requested that a status update be
provided by staff at the first meeting of June 1997.
4. Status Reports
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner, AICP
Commissioner Pontious moved, Vandaveer seconded, to receive and
file this report. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS=
5. Report on Actions taken at the February 18, 1997 City Council
Meetinq.
Presentation: Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director
The Director reported on the subject agenda.
In response to the Commission request to be informed, staff
reported that L.A. Cellular would be conducting radio tests at the
Edinger site, Tuesday, February 25, 1997 from 10=00 a.m. to noon.
COMMISSION CONCERNS=
Commissioner Pontious
- Stated she would be traveling to Scotland and although
will be returning on March 10, 1997 and will try to
attend that meeting.
Commissioner Mitzman
- Inquired about the closure of Chuy's Restaurant.
The reason for the immediate and unannounced closure is not
known by staff, however the Director will forward a letter of
inquiry to them asking the reason for the closure.
Commissioner Kozak
Reported that he attended insurance and risk management
meetings in San Diego at which local agency liability and
risk transfer for architects and engineers was discussed.
Requested an additional report from staff at the June 9,
1997 meeting concerning development opportunity, lot
assemblage activities or improvements for the properties,
1) across from the Pankey site at the Old Texaco station;
2) at Nisson and Newport across from the Carls Jr.
development and, 3) at the Alta Dena site on Newport.
Staff will comply with this request.
Inquired as to queuing information that he had requested
from the Traffic Engineer at Newport and Holt and the
driveway by the restaurant.
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February 24, 1997
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Commissioner Vandaveer
Reported that the property owner at 1111 E1 Camino Real
had inquired as to why a bus shelter was being placed in
front of his property. The concern is that the sidewalk
is being restricted.
Reported that Phil Cox had installed all the signs for
Old Town and they have all withstood the recent winds.
Commissioner Bone
Would like to see the report on properties as requested
by Commissioner Kozak to include the property behind
Sizzler. He has observed trucks parked over the weekend
at the dirt lot behind Sizzler and asked if Code
Enforcement had a cellular phone so that they can be
called on weekends.
The Director stated that no cellular phone is available but
that Code Enforcement can be contacted through the Police
Department. She also reported that Code Enforcement Officer
Mark Galvan has been out on medical leave.
Reported snipe signs on the telephone poles all the way
along Red Hill Avenue.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Pontious seconded, to adjourn the
meeting at 8:07 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission is
on March 10, 1997 beginning at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers,
300 Centennial Way, Tustin.
LOU BONE
Chairman
BARBARA REYESC/
Recording Secretary