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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 9, 1996
CALL TO ORDER:
7:14 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Leslie Pontious
INVOCATION:
ROLL CALL:
Tustin Police Chaplain,
Lloyd Strelow
Commissioners
Present:
Lou Bone, Chairman
Steve Kozak
Howard Mitzman
Leslie Pontious
David Vandaveer
Staff
Present:
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney
Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Sara Pashalides, Associate Planner
Karen Peterson, Assistant Planner
Kathy Martin, Planning Commission Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
(Limited to 3 minutes per person for items not
on the agenda.)
No one addressed the Commission
CONSENT CALENDAR:
(ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY
ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE
DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS PRIOR TO THE TIME OF
THE VOTING ON THE MOTION UNLESS MEMBERS OF THE
COMMISSION, STAFF OR PUBLIC REQUEST SPECIFIC
ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED AND/OR REMOVED FROM THE
CONSENT CALENDAR FOR SEPARATE ACTION.)
1. Minutes of the November 25, 1996 Planninq Commission Meetinq.
Commissioner Pontious moved, Co~.-.-Lissioner Vandaveer seconded, to
approve the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Comprehensive Revisions To The City's Subdivision Code
(Continued from meetings of November 12 and November 25, 1996)
Recommendation - That the Planning Commission continue this item to
the January 13, 1997 Planning Commission meeting.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Commissioner Pontious secondeS, to
continue the item to the January 13, 1997 Planning Commission
meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
Planning Commission Minutes
December 9, 1996
Page 2
3. Large-Family Day Care Home (LFD 96-001)
APPLICANT/
PROPERTY OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
AZRA A. MALIK
1382 LANCE DRIVE
TUSTIN, CA. 92680-4551
1382 LANCE DRIVE
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (R-l) DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1)
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
AUTHORIZATION TO OPERATE A LARGE-FAMILY DAY
CARE HOME.
Recommendation - That the Planning Commission:
Inquire if any property owner within 100 feet of the
proposed large-family day care home desires to protest
the request based on adverse impacts of traffic, parking,
noise, or overconcentration.
If no valid protest is received, adopt Resolution No.
3505 approving LFD 96-001.
If a valid protest is received:
A. Open and conduct a public hearing;
B. At the conclusion of the public hearing, adopt
Resolution No. 3505 approving LDF 96-001.
Presentation: Karen Peterson, Assistant Planner
The Public Hearing opened at 7:16 p.m.
Commissioner Bone noted that there cannot be another large day care
center located within 100 feet of the property, and asked if this
also applies to a small day care center.
Karen Peterson responded that the 100 foot restriction does not
apply to a small day care center.
Commissioner Kozak asked why two different measurements were used
for notification and another for establishment.
Karen Peterson responded that state law establishes 100 feet for
notifying property owners in relation to large family day care
homes.
Lois Bobak stated that this is because there are very limited
objections that an adjacent homeowner can make and they usually
involve noise and traffic circulation. The further away in
proximity, the less intense those potential impacts would be.
Commissioner Kozak noted that the site plan contained in the staff
report was very hard to follow. He asked if the site plan was sent
to public safety agencies.
Karen Peterson stated that the site plan is sent to the State
Department of Health Services.
Elizabeth Binsack noted that Condition 1.6 of Resolution 3505
requires that the applicant submit a site plan for approval by the
Community Development Department and would address Commissioner
Kozak's concerns.
Planning Commission Minutes
December 9, 1996
Page 3
The Public Hearing closed at 7:22 p.m.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to
adopt Resolution No. 3505 approving LFD 96-001. Motion carried 5-
9.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
4. Desiqn Review 95-045
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
AGENT:
ARCHITECT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THE HOME DEPOT
601 S. PLACENTIA AVENUE
FULLERTON, CA. 92631
ATTN: JEFF NICHOLS
THE IRVINE COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA. 92658-8904
ATTN: KEITH EYRICH
DONAHUE SCHRIBER
3501 JAMBOREE RD., SUITE 300
NEWPORT BEACH, CA. 92660
ATTN: MARK WHITFIELD
GREENBERG FARROW
15101 RED HILL AVENUE, SUITE 200
TUSTIN, CA 92780
ATTN: TAMARA SANTONI
2782 EL CAMINO REAL
PLANNED COMMUNITY-MIXED USE (PC MU),
SPECIFIC PLAN
EAST TUSTIN
THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1)
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO CONTINUE THE OUTDOOR SALES
Recommendation - That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3506 approving Design Review 95-045.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:22 p.m.
Presentation: Sara Pashalides, Associate Planner
Commissioner Bone inquired why the applicant never followed through
with expansion plans.
Sara Pashalides responded that the expansion was proposed to
increase the garden area and to address the need for an access
drive at Myford Road which was tied in with the conditions of
approval for Black Angus. She stated that the applicant felt that
the additional floor area was cost prohibitive and would have
complicated the loading area.
Commissioner Bone asked if there was parking on the north side.
Sara Pashalides responded that there was at one time but when West
Drive and the accessway were modified, parking was eliminated.
Commissioner Mitzman indicated that he observed flat carts being
stored in parking spaces.
Sara Pashalides responded that the flat cart storage area is now at
the far south end of the front entry.
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December 9, 1996
Page 4
Commissioner Bone stated that he has witnessed vendors beyond the
red stripe line.
Sara Pashalides responded that the condition was worded to allow
promotional activities which are required to be behind the red
painted area.
Lois Bobak stated that the area is a public walkway and Home Depot
has no control over whether someone stands there. She indicated
that what the Commission can control is where Home Depot places the
outdoor displays.
Commissioner Bone noted that he has witnessed individuals with
vendors tables and believes they had received approval from Home
Depot.
Lois Bobak responded that an individual with a vendors table can be
regulated.
Commissioner Kozak stated that he has observed non-seasonal items
stored in front of the doors. He stated those items could be
stored elsewhere.
Commissioner Bone inquired if approval of this permit would set a
precedent in the City.
Lois Bobak answered that anytime the City or Commission takes
action someone can argue that it is precedent for another action.
She stated that this large regional center is unique. It may be a
precedent for other uses in the center, but not for other areas in
the City.
Commissioner Bone asked if this should be addressed in the
Conditional Use Permit.
Sara Pashalides stated that Section 3.8.4 K of the East Tustin
Specific Plan was included as Attachment A. She noted that is the
regulation that allows for storage areas and that other areas in
the City are not subject to the same regulations.
Lois Bobak stated that the East Tustin Specific Plan does not
require outdoor storage to be approved by a conditional use permit
process.
Elizabeth Binsack noted that City Council Resolution No. 95-64
established a finding that the outdoor display of home improvement
materials and garden materials is consistent with the nature of the
subject retail business and that this type of merchandise is
typically stored on display in an outdoor area. The outside
display of home improvement merchandise is consistent with the
design and operation of the business and will not establish a
precedent for other non-garden retail outdoor areas within the
center. She stated that this finding could be included as Finding
F in Resolution No. 3506.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked if this approval would be for a
limited time.
Sara Pashalides noted that the prior approval was for a limited
basis, but is now proposed for seven days a week on a permanent
basis.
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December 9, 1996
Page 5
Commissioner Vandaveer asked why two feet in height was chosen for
the screen wall. He stated that he believed someone might step
over the wall and not see what they are stepping into.
Sara Pashalides answered that the reason for the two foot high wall
was to afford the promotional opportunities that Home Depot is
requesting, but still provide a barrier so that merchandise would
not encroach into the pedestrian walkway.
Commissioner Bone noted that a barrier 3 or 4 inches high would
suffice.
Lois Bobak noted that the liability is not on the part of the City
but of the center or Home Depot. She stated there would be more
concern over a barrier 3 or 4 inches high as opposed to a barrier
that is 2 feet high.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked if the post and chains were removable.
Sara Pashalides answered affirmatively.
Commissioner Vandaveer suggested that the posts be permanently
affixed.
Elizabeth
permanent
solution,
area.
Binsack noted that the post and chains worked if
and indicated that the wall may not be the optimal
but would ensure that merchandise remains behind the
Commissioner Pontious asked if the wall could be constructed of
lattice work.
Commissioner Bone asked if there is a condition in the resolution
stating what hours the employees can move the products.
Jeff Nichols, applicant, 601 S. Placentia Ave., Fullerton, gave the
past history on the Home Depot. He stated that he is concerned
with the new conditions. He stated that requiring more barriers in
front of the store would exacerbate the problem and building a low
wall would create a cavernous feeling. He suggested that staff set
a regular time period for review.
Commissioner Bone noted that the Commission does not want to see
the wall. He noted the complaints the City has received about
conditions at the location.
Jeff Nichols suggested that the City invalidate the use permit if
Home Depot was not following the conditions of approval.
Elizabeth Binsack suggested that if the Commission wished, staff
could propose a condition that would give the staff the ability to
review the operations every six months and in the event there is a
problem, the matter could be scheduled for the Commission's
consideration. The applicant could then be required to resubmit or
add a permanent barrier at that time. She indicated that if the
area can not be regulated effectively, staff could require a low
wall, permanent posts and chains, permanent wrought iron or a
revocation of the use. She stated that staff will draft a
condition and allow the applicant the ability to review that
condition before the Commission takes action.
Commissioner Mitzman suggested the item be continued for 30 or 60
days.
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December 9, 1996
Page 6
Lois Bobak responded that the problem is not a 30 or 60 day
problem, but more long term.
Commissioner Pontious noted that the Home Depot has employee
manuals to direct the method of storage. She suggested that staff
encourage Home Depot to pursue this method. She also stated that
she would like the issue to come back to the Commission on a
periodic basis.
Commissioner Vandaveer suggested a sign be posted that states "Ail
merchandise shall be behind the red line."
Commissioner Bone asked if the applicant had any suggestions.
Jeff Nichols stated that when a Home Depot store manager is placed,
the home office for that area is notified. The real estate manager
can advise the new manager of the local restrictions.
Commissioner Bone inquired if Mr. Nichols was based in Fullerton.
Jeff Nichols answered affirmatively.
Commissioner Mitzman stated that he would like to see a condition
that if there is a managerial change, the City be notified so staff
can walk the location with the new manager.
Elizabeth Binsack stated that it would not be practical to add such
a condition; staff would need to do the same for all projects. She
suggested that rather than reviewing every six months, language be
added that the site be inspected every six months or as deemed
necessary. She stated that if Home Depot is complying with
conditions, staff will not need to write a report. She suggested
a condition for signage subject to review and approval by the
Community Development Department.
Commissioner Bone asked if Home Depot were found to be in
violation, would they be fined.
Elizabeth Binsack stated that if Home Depot was in violation of a
city code, staff can issue a citation. She stated that issuing a
citation would be a last resort.
Commissioner Bone stated that if the manager of the store were to
have to pay a fine it would be helpful.
Jeff Nichols stated that he believed that the threat of losing the
ability to place merchandise outside would have a greater effect.
Commissioner Bone asked if staff gives written warnings.
Elizabeth Binsack answered that staff gives verbal warnings on
site. She stated that if the individual takes care of the
violation, the case is then deemed closed. If compliance is not
achieved, staff sends a letter. Staff has already reached that
level with this property. Staff would use one of the more
aggressive ways to take care of this issue. She stated that adding
this kind of condition of approval would be sufficient enough to
ensure compliance.
Commissioner Pontious inquired if staff would contact the home
office in Fullerton.
Elizabeth Binsack stated that traditionally the on-site manager
would be contacted.
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December 9, 1996
Page 7
Commissioner Pontious asked if, in addition, the home office could
be contacted.
Elizabeth Binsack stated that staff could notify Mr. Nichols.
Lois Bobak suggested that staff be given an opportunity to develop
conditions for Mr. Nichols to review before coming back to the
Commission. She suggested that this item be continued to the first
meeting in January.
Karol Reedy, General Manager of Tustin Marketplace, Donahue
Schriber, stated that on behalf of the landlord, they are
appreciative of the Commission's concerns and want to be sure that
if the Commission is going to request any permanent type of
structure that they have approval rights on behalf of the shopping
center. She further stated that they would like to be informed of
any notices to Home Depot regarding violations. She stated that
they can assist them and work with the manager on-site.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to
continue Design Review 95-045 to January 13, 1997. Motion carried
5-0.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:05 p.m.
STAFF CONCERNS:
Report on Actions taken at the December 2, 1996 City Council
Meetinq.
Presentation: Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director
Staff reported on the subject agenda·
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Pontious
- Wished everyone a merry holiday season.
Noted that she would be on holiday light patrol tomorrow
evening with the Tustin Pride for the holiday display
awards.
Commissioner Kozak
- Wished everyone a good holiday season.
Informed staff that 6 or 8 light fixtures at Columbus
Tustin Gym are loose.
Staff responded that they would have Public Works check on the
light fixtures.
Informed staff that the old lane striping at Red Hill,
Bryan and Irvine Boulevard is still visible and should be
removed.
Staff responded that Public Works would be informed of this
matter.
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December 9, 1996
Page 8
- Noted that at the old Marie Callendar's location, the
neon sign showing directions to the restaurant is lit up
at night which could be misleading to motorists.
Staff responded that the property owner would be contacted.
- Noted that there was graffiti located at the McFadden
Village.
Staff responded that they would have code enforcement check on
the graffiti.
Commissioner Vandaveer
- Wished everyone Happy Holidays.
- Commented on the newly installed bus shelters.
- Asked if staff could have code enforcement check on Main
Street for deteriorated banners.
Staff responded in the affirmative.
Commissioner Bone
- Thanked staff for their efforts over the past year.
Noted that he also would be out on light patrol tomorrow
evening. He also mentioned a house on Caper Tree with an
exceptional display. He indicated that he would let
staff know the address of that property.
Noted that the Tustin Pride Committee would be at
Columbus Tustin Park for the Tree Recycling program.
Commissioner Mitzman - No comments.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Commissioner Pontious seconded, to
adjourn the meeting to 8:15 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission is
on January 13, 1997 beginning at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers,
300 Centennial Way, Tustin.
LOU BONE
Chairman
KATHLEEN MARTIN
Recording Secretary