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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 24, 1996
CALL TO ORDER:
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COMMISSIONER BONE
INVOCATION - COMMISSIONER KASALEK
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners
Present:
Marjorie Kasalek, Chairwoman
Lou Bone, Vice Chairman
David Vandaveer
Howard Mitzman
Absent: Nanette Lunn
Staff
Present:
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney
Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Sara Pashalides, Associate Planner
Greg Gubman, Associate Planner
Rosa Ceja, Assistant Planner
Kathleen Martin, Planning Commission Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS: No one from the audience addressed the
Commission.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of the June 10, 1996 Planninq Commission Meetinq.
Commissioner Bone moved, Vandaveer seconded, to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. Conditional Use Permit 96-008
APPLICANT:
PROPERTY:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
RICHARD GRAFF
20/20 RECYCLE CENTERS
1731 POMONA ROAD
CORONA, CA. 91720
SIDNEY MANDEL
% LUCKY STORES
P.O. BOX BB
DUBLIN, CA 94568
13720 NEWPORT AVENUE
RETAIL COMMERCIAL (C-I)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1), PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
TO ESTABLISH ANATTENDED SMALL RECYCLING COLLECTION
FACILITY IN THE PARKING AREA OF AN EXISTING
SHOPPING CENTER.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1996
Page 2
Recommendation -That the Planning Commission approve Conditional
Use Permit 96-008 by adopting Resolution No. 3455, subject to the
conditions attached in Exhibit A.
Presentation: Sara Pashalides, Associate Planner
Commissioner Bone asked if moving the location of the bin had been
discussed with the applicant.
Sara Pashalides indicated that she spoke with the applicant and
they are willing to relocate the bin in line with the store and the
vending machines.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked if the cans would be crushed or stored
in the bin.
Sara Pashalides stated that she believed the cans remain in the bin
whole. There are no mechanical devices in the bin. She indicated
that the Commission should direct that question to the applicant.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:10 p.m.
Joan Zousel, 1191 E. First Street, stated that the residents in
Broadmoor already have problems with people in the trash bins at
night. She is concerned that if the bin and igloos are put by
trash bins, there will be more people in the area at night. She
asked if the bin would be fenced at night. She would like the bin
moved closer to Newport and not closer to the Broadmoor complex.
Richard Graff, applicant for 20/20 Recycle Centers, stated he was
available to answer any questions.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked the applicant if cans would be crushed
at the bin or is there any sound involved with the operation of the
center?
Richard Graff replied that there is no noise relative to the
crushing of cans at the center.
Commissioner Mitzman asked why the applicant is changing to this
new system versus the existing vending machines at the store.
Richard Graff stated that there were two reasons:
First, even though the machines were technically advanced, they
required considerable labor. The machines are equipped with
computers and modems and had a tendency to break down. When the
machines are not working, the store is legally required to bring
containers left at the machines into the store. The store also had
to clean shopping carts that were soiled with syrup.
Second, as of May 22, 1996, 20/20 Recycle Centers took over
operations from Environmental Products. Environmental Products
owned the vending machines. Acquisition of the sites did not
include equipment. Environmental Products will be removing the
machines and will not be selling them to 20/20 Recycle Centers.
Commissioner Kasalek was concerned about the hours for exchanging
the bins. Since the applicant has asked for the hours of 5:00 -
7:00 p.m.; is that a guarantee that the exchanges will be done by
7:00 p.m.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1996
Page 3
Richard Graff noted that when staff originally asked for the hours
of 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. he believed that was fine. He
subsequently spoke with the company's transportation department and
found that they would have to rearrange their schedules to make the
pick up at this store. The hours of 5:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m. are more
aligned with their schedules.
Commissioner Bone noted that it takes approximately 20-25 minutes
to exchange a bin.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:15 p.m.
Commissioner Bone stated that he wanted to address the resident's
concern about the placement of the bins. He had a concern with
these type of recycle bins. However, State law requires these
facilities. The City has to have the bins at a half mile radius or
half hour radius. There are nine (9) zones in Tustin and we
currently have three (3) facilities. He stated that he did not
think moving the bin closer to Newport Avenue was fair to the
future tenant in the Coldwell Banker building. He would like to
see the bin moved near the trash cans. He felt that there would
not be any more noise than what is taking place now. This bin is
taking away five parking spaces from the location. He noted that
at the Ralph's shopping center on Red Hill, traffic congestion is
a problem when people bring in their recyclables. He has seen
homeless people at the bins. Commissioner Bone recommended a
change to the conditions to add steam cleaning and a time change.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked if the placement by the trash bins
would block the store's loading area.
Commissioner Bone stated that he was at the store and witnessed a
16-wheeler being unloaded and there was still plenty of room. The
16-wheeler was approximately 10 feet from the wall.
Commissioner Vandaveer For the record, Commissioner Bone has
recommended placement of the bin between the trash bins in the
first line of parking stalls. Commissioner Vandaveer stated he
would like to see the facility located in the first line of parking
stalls. He believes relocation near the trash bins could become a
problem. Further, the bins can be better monitored from the street
if they are located in the first line of parking stalls.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that if the bins are placed by the
trash bins, they may become more of a vagrant dumping problem. She
would, however, like to see the bins located further away from the
Coldwell Banker building, and in view of the people collecting
carts.
Commissioner Mitzman questioned the future maintenance and if
there is adequate lighting at the site.
Sara Pashalides indicated that the center would not be open at
night.
Commissioner Mitzman stated he felt that people could still
congregate at night and has a concern with people sleeping next to
the bins.
Commissioner Bone stated that he has seen people sleeping near the
bins at the Ralphs market on Red Hill. He did not feel that
lighting will deter vagrants. He stated that the vagrants are
bringing cans and waiting for the recycle center to open.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1996
Page 4
Commissioner Mitzman concerned that if the bins are moved too far
to the back of the site, the police will not be able to view the
bins from the street. He felt that placement in the middle would
be a better approach.
Commissioner Kasalek asked for clarification of the facility
location on the site plan.
Sara Pashalides indicated that the crosshatched area Commissioner
Kasalek is referring to is 13 parking spaces. Sara suggested the
addition of conditions requiring the facility be moved to the most
easterly five parking spaces.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:21 p.m.
Richard Graff indicated that the location is acceptable.
Commissioner Kasalek asked how often steamcleaning will be done.
Richard Graff stated that the facilities are cleaned every 30 days.
The bins are locked when they are not in use. He noted that there
are fewer problems with break-ins when the bins are in a more
visible location.
Commissioner Vandaveer inquired about the ease of break-in on the
bells.
Richard Graff stated that the bells are not as secure as the bins;
however, there is nothing of value in the bells. There is only
glass in the bells. Glass has very little value. Breaking into
the bells is very difficult.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:25 p.m.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved,
Conditional Use Permit 96-008
revised as follows:
Mitzman seconded to approve
by adopting Resolution No. 3455
Condition 2.3 for first sentence should read: "All materials shall
be stored within the container. It shall be the operator and host
store's responsibility to ensure that no materials of any kind are
stored outside at any time, including when the facility is closed
for business. Last sentence to be added as follows: "This shall
include steam cleaning at a minimum every 30 days."
Condition 2.5 last sentence to read as follows: "The transfer of
bins shall occur only between the hours of 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. or
5:00 to 7:00 p.m."
Add new Condition 2.6 to read as follows: "The maintenance of the
immediate vicinity of the site will be regularly monitored to
ensure compliance with condition 2.3 above. The City may require
steam cleaning or other type of maintenance to ensure area is free
of pests, vermin and odors. Failure to maintain the facility and
vicinity may be grounds for City enforcement of its Property
Maintenance Ordinance, including nuisance abatement procedures and
may result in revocation of use permit."
Add new Condition 2.7 to read as follows: "The recycling facility
shall be relocated to the five (5) most easterly parking spaces
along the north property line." Motion carried 4-0.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1996
Page 5
Conditional Use Permit 92-006 and
Desiqn Review 92-015
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MIKE GRAVITT
THE BARN RESTAURANT
14982 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
BORCHARD REDHILL
KOLL BUSINESS CENTER, LTD.
1582 PARKWAY LOOP
TUSTIN, CA 92680
ATTN: SCOTT FLEMER
14982 RED HILL AVENUE
INDUSTRIAL (M)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO THE
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
AUTHORIZATION TO PROVIDE OUTDOOR SEATING AT AN
EXISTING RESTAURANT.
Recommendation -That the Planning Commission approve Conditional
Use Permit 92-006 and Design Review 92-015 by adopting Resolution
No. 3454.
Presentation: Greg Gubman, Associate Planner
Commissioner Bone asked about the height and setback along the
Edinger side.
Greq Gubman stated that the setback is 15 feet from the property
line and the fence is six feet tall on the south side.
Commissioner Bone stated that he liked Attachment B on 2.4., and
asked if the northside seating area is facing the residential area.
He stated his concerns related to the adjacent residences. He
would like to see the operating hours split whether it be 7:00 p.m.
or 8:00 p.m. He stated there should be landscaping buffering added
in front of the parking area.
Greq Gubman stated that a condition can be incorporated to require
landscaping.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked why the restaurant is closing at dusk.
He stated there would be more noise from the railroad than the
restaurant. He felt that 8:00 p.m. would be a sufficient closing
time. He felt that splitting time would be difficult for the
restaurant staff.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:37 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:38 p.m.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that the railroad is noisy but that it
comes and goes. She stated that from where she lives, activity at
the base can be heard. She had concerns related to the outdoor
seating permitted too late and was concerned with the term dusk.
Commissioner Bone stated that 8:00 p.m. is an appropriate closing
time.
Commissioner Vandaveer inquired if the Edinger side outdoor
seating could run all night and if there is adequate lighting for
this.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1996
Page 6
Greq Gubman stated that the applicant is using a low bollard type
of lighting.
Daniel Fox , Senior Planner, indicated that the pedestrian and
parking areas would need to meet the security code for lighting.
Even at 8:00 p.m. during the winter time, they will have to provide
adequate lighting.
Commissioner Bone stated that there is plenty of lighting in the
parking lot which would also provide lighting in the seating area.
Commissioner Bone inquired as to what would happen if the
applicant puts in the outdoor seating and leaves the parking to the
end of the project and does not complete this part of this project.
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director, stated that the
applicant would not receive a final planning or building sign-off
from either division. If they proceed without complying with the
conditions of approval, the Commission could revoke the permit.
Commissioner Kasalek concurred with the clause in the conditions
that prohibited "Mardi Gras or fraternity row"
Greq Gubman stated that the condition was requested by the Police
Department.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Bone seconded to approve Conditional
Use Permit 92-006 and Design Review 92-015 by adopting Resolution
No. 3454 revised as follows:
Add Condition 2.18 to read: "The undeveloped easterly portion of
the subject property shall be hydroseeded and maintained by an
automatic irrigation system adequate to serve the entire
hydroseeded area. Landscaping and irrigation plans for said area
shall be submitted in accordance with Condition 2.15."
Add Condition 9.7 to read: "Outdoor seating and dining service in
the north patio area shall cease operations at 8:00 p.m. Operating
hours in the south patio and deck area shall be limited to the
operating hours of the restaurant." Motion carried 4-0.
4. Variance 96-004
OWNER:
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
STATE OF CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEM
1601 RESPONSE ROAD #300
SACRAMENTO, CA 95815
INSIGNIA*O'DONNELL COMMERCIAL GROUP
2201 DUPONT DRIVE, STE. 100
IRVINE, CA 92715
ATT: JAMES WESTLING
1150 VALENCIA AVENUE
INDUSTRIAL (100 M 20,000) DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 11) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15311 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
TO CONSTRUCT A TEN (10) FOOT HIGH WALL/FENCE AND
SECURITY GATES AT THE SIDE OF AN EXISTING
INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
Recommendation - That the Planning Commission approve Variance 96-
004 by adopting Resolution No. 3453.
Presentation: Rosa Ceja, Assistant Planner
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1996
Page 7
Commissioner Kasalek
question.
asked for clarification of the fencing in
Rosa Ceja stated that the Variance is requested for the front
fencing area.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:45 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:45 p.m.
Commissioner Mitzman moved, Vandaveer seconded to approve Variance
96-004 by adopting Resolution No. 3453 as submitted. Motion
carried 4-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
5. Use Interpretation 96-003
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CALIFORNIA PACIFIC HOMES
1 CIVIC PLAZA, SUITE 275
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
ATTN: WILLIAM L. MOORHOUS
LOT 27, TRACT 13627 (PORTOLA PARKWAY,
JAMBOREE ROAD, TUSTIN RANCH ROAD)
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN; MEDIUM-HIGH
RESIDENTIAL
DENSITY
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 3) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA EQUALITY ACT (CEQA)
TO DETERMINE THAT THE FRONT YARD SETBACKS CAN BE
MEASURED FROM THE BACK OF SIDEWALK HATHER THAN
RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE
Recommendation - That the Planning Commission continue this item to
the July 8, 1996 Planning Commission Meeting at the applicant's
request.
Commissioner Bone moved, Vandaveer seconded to continue this item
to the July 8, 1996 Planning Commission Meeting at the applicant's
request. Motion carried 4-0.
6. Status Reports
Recommendation - Receive and file.
Coa-~issioner Bone moved, Vandaveer seconded to receive and file the
Status Reports. Motion carried 4-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
7.
Report on Actions taken at the June 17, 1996 City Council
Meetinq.
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
Staff noted that the appeal of the Bramalea project is
scheduled for the next City Council meeting on July 1, 1996.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Bone
Complemented the parking control officer for her work.
He witnessed her ticketing many vehicles at the Lucky
store on Newport Avenue for having "For Sale" signs.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1996
Page 8
Stated that there were vehicles being parked with "For
Sale" signs at the closed restaurant at E1 Camino Real
and Red Hill. Large trucks are also being parked there.
The Director stated that this would be investigated.
Tustin Pride Committee will be having Angels in Tustin on
July 20th wherein a home belonging to an elderly or
handicapped resident will be repaired and rehabilitated.
He urges everyone in Tustin to get involved with the
program.
Commissioner Mitzman
- Will not be at the next Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Vandaveer
Noted that the Tustin Chamber of Commerce will be
installing the man of the year on Saturday the 29th of
June.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Mitzman seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 7:54 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission is
on July 8, 1996 beginning at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, 300
Centennial Way, Tustin.
M~R~F~i~KA--SALE~/
Chairwoman
BARBARA REYES
Recording Secretary