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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 10, 1996
CALL TO ORDER:
7:02 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COMMISSIONER VANDAVEER
INVOCATION - COMMISSIONER KASALEK
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners
Present:
Marjorie Kasalek, Chairwoman
Lou Bone, Vice Chairman
Nanette Lunn
David Vandaveer
Howard Mitzman
Staff
Present:
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney
Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Barbara Reyes, Planning Commission Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
CONSENT CALENDAR:
No one from the audience addressed the
Commission.
1. Minutes of the May 28, 1996 Planninq Commission Meetinq.
2. Final Tract Map 15292
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
GREYSTONE HOMES
THE IRVINE COMPANY
LOTS 17 AND 18 OF TRACT 13627
MEDIUM-LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL-
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS CONSIDERED MINISTERIALLY EXEMPT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15268(b) OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO SUBDIVIDE A 13 ACRE SITE INTO 65
NUMBERED LOTS AND 16 LETTERED LOTS FOR THE PURPOSE
OF DEVELOPING 65 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
Recommendation - That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3452 recommending that the City Council approve Final Tract Map
15292.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Bone seconded, to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 10, 1996
Page 2
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Amendment to Vesting Tentative Tract Map 13908 And Design
Review 95-042
(Continued from Planning Commission Meeting of May 13, 1996)
APPLICANT/
OWNER
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
BRAMALEA CALIFORNIA
TRACT 13908, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF TUSTIN RANCH ROAD
AND TOWNSHIP DRIVE
PLANNED COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL - (LOW DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL) - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
AUTHORIZATION TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION
UNITS TO THE BUILDOUT OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT
Recommendation - That the Planning Commission:
Approve the Environmental Determination for the project by
adopting Resolution No. 3431;
Approve Design Review 95-042 by adopting Resolution No. 3432,
as submitted or revised; and,
Recommend that the City Council approve Amendment to Vesting
Tentative Tract Map 13908 by adopting Resolution No. 3433, as
submitted or revised.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, AICP, Senior Planner
Commissioner Bone inquired if both the builder and the homeowners
had agreed to Plans 1, 3 and 4; that Plan 5 has been eliminated and
that the residents also want Plan 6 eliminated from the mix.
Dan Fox, Senior Planner, affirmed this to be correct.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:10 p.m.
Christopher Clark, representing the San Marino Homeowners Associa-
tion, stated that there have been meetings and discussions directly
with Bramalea but no common resolutions on the issues, especially
the elimination of Plan 6, have been achieved. The Homeowners
Association is not scheduled to meet until June 19, 1996, so Mr.
Clark stated he would not be able to endorse any proposal until the
association members voted. The homeowners do not want to see any
Plan 6s and agreement has not been met on that issue. The other
outstanding issues are the sunken livingrooms, which the builder
wants to delete in the new homes, and moving the location of the
model complex without the construction of Plan 6. Residents want
one of the models to be a Plan 4, phasing to begin closest to the
infill lots working back to the construction access point and for
the builder to rename the new phase. There is agreement on Plans
1, 3, 4 & 7 provided amenities can be agreed upon and conditioned
on review of the modified Plan 3. Mr. Clark stated he would prefer
that the homeowners had a chance to vote formally on final
agreements with Bramalea and then proceed without any further
negotiation to the City Council meeting. To resolve these issues,
he requested a continuance of the item.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 10, 1996
Page 3
Commissioner Kasalek inquired if all 27 homeowners have met during
the last two months of discussions.
Christopher Clark stated they had not met as a group but had been
given information. The first formal Homeowners Association meeting
will be on June 19, 1996.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if there had been any effort made to
move that meeting up to observe the time limits of the Planning
Commission hearings.
Christopher Clark stated there was no way that could be done, since
before this Planning Commission meeting the small homeowners group
needed more time to continue discussion with the builder. Because
the homeowners were not in full agreement with the builder, the
smaller homeowners group preferred to narrow all the items down
before bringing the matter for a vote at the Homeowners Association
meeting on June 19, 1996.
Jeff Roos, representing Bramalea California, stated that there have
been a number of meetings and he believes things have moved
significantly in a new direction. Originally the product proposed
was an elimination of the existing product. Bramalea has come up
with a completely new product, consisting of three floor plans.
Bramalea will build Plan 7 which is the same square footage as the
previous Plan 2; the new Plan 6 is larger than the previous
smallest home in the existing development. They wish to build a
Plan 6 because it is a 2 story home needed in the mix for
marketing. Bramalea also agree to move the model complex and not
build a Plan 6 in the models or north of Lot 84. They have agreed
to limit Plan 2 to a maximum number. Concerning the amenity
levels, they will install wood garage doors, optional skylights and
a choice of clay or concrete roof tile at a no cost option to the
buyer. Bramalea appreciates the fact that the homeowners want them
to build the large homes so they share a common goal. He wants to
have the flexibility to plot the products that sell.
Commissioner Kasalek asked what number of Plan 6s would be
acceptable to Bramalea.
Jeff Roos stated he would agree to 20 and agreed to the homeowners
phasing request for Phase 1. Bramalea wishes to delay building in
Phase 3 (Lots 40-43 where the model complex was originally to be)
because he wished to preserve a view to the models.
Commissioner Bone asked if homebuyers would be informed that the
wood garage doors need to be painted on a regular basis. He also
inquired if the "pick a lot" program would continue.
Jeff Roos stated that Bramalea has not decided if they will
continue with the "pick a lot" program, where a buyer is allowed to
build a particular plan on a particular lot, and if they decide to
continue it would be done on a phase basis.
Commissioner Kasalek clarified that the issue of fire places,
windows and sunken livingrooms were not agreed upon but that
optional fire places and vinyl windows were proposed. She asked if
Mr. Roos was willing to continue this item.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 10, 1996
Page 4
Jeff Roos stated he was not aware that continuation was an issue
until this evening and that he would like to move ahead. He stated
that he will not be in town on June 24, for the next Planning
Commission meeting. He stated that the homeowners have a chance to
voice their opinions at the City Council meeting even if they do
not meet formally until June 19th.
Michael Nermon 2460 Kiser, requested that the item be continued a
bit longer.
Christopher Clark stated that after the previous Planning
Commission meeting they left with a view toward a divided or split
development but in the ensuing discussions both sides agreed that
if an acceptable product mix could be agreed upon a united
development would be preferred. He stated that it was only since
last week that the small homeowners group had time to inform the
homeowners that a united development would be the optional
solution.
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney, stated that sufficient notice
will be given before the City Council hearing since the City is
required to give statutory notice for the July 1, 1996 City Council
meeting. Also, she reminded everyone that the terms of the current
Planning Commissioners will expire in July and if this item was
continued, it would be difficult for a reconstituted Planning
Commission to give this item the necessary attention.
Christopher Clark stated that he was aware of the terms, but
believed there will be one more Planning Commission meeting on June
24th before the terms expire.
Commissioner Kasalek stated she has not seen a lot of movement from
the homeowners and questioned if Mr. Clark really believed a two
week continuance would make a difference.
Christopher Clark stated he would request a vote in favor of the
homeowners right now if he didn't feel it would make a difference.
He stated that up to two weeks ago the homeowners were making all
the moves. Since then Bramalea has done a good job and has
garnered good faith in eliminating a couple of the smaller models
but that there is more to discuss and he hopes Bramalea will not
pull back now and not finish the process.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that amenity levels are not within the
Planning Commission's jurisdiction.
Christopher Clark stated that although amenity levels are a
concern to the homeowners, agreement on the Plan 6 model was a key
decision as well as plotting of the first Phase and review of what
Plan 3 includes.
Carl Hatterman, President of the Homeowners Association, commended
Mr. Roos for making changes and stated that this was a fluid
situation. The homeowners do have concerns and there is need to
delay the vote tonight since the homeowners look to the Planning
Commission as their defense.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 10, 1996
Page 5
Jeff Roos stated he was under the impression that a vote would be
taken tonight and had not heard of anything different from the
homeowners until tonight. He stated that Bramalea has been making
concessions all along, and have been receptive to homeowners giving
input on plotting for Phase 1 but Bramalea is at the end of their
rope and his instructions are to proceed with the vote. He does
not wish to have the item continued. Also he stated he will not be
in town June 24, 1996 since he has a scheduled vacation planned.
Commissioner Kasalek asked what would happen if the first Phase
does not sell.
The Director stated that the Planning Commission has the ability to
add conditions to provide a range of various units.
Jeff Roos stated that a big concern of the homeowners was the Plan
6 so, in the first four Phases there will be no Plan 6. It was not
proposed as a safety valve since they are already limited to the
number of the Plan 6 they can build.
Commissioner Bone asked if Bramalea would agree to building 17
Plan 6 units as a compromise between the 20 which the builder
wanted and what the homeowners wanted.
Christopher Clark stated that building of only 15 Plan 6 units was
already conceded by Bramalea in a phone conversation with Mr. Roos.
Mr. Clark believes that 12 would be more acceptable. He stated that
the homeowners would like to approve what is plotted adjacent to
the existing residents. The homeowners want a Plan 4 as a
mandatory model. Phases 1 and 3 are the closest to the existing
homes so homeowners wish to have input and approval.
Commissioner Mitzman asked the City attorney if the Planning
Commission had the right to condition a project, subject to the
homeowners approval.
Lois Bobak stated there was no problem with that if the builder
consented to the condition of approval. The Planning Commission is
giving approval to subdivide the map and for Design Review. If the
Planning Commission wants to condition that the homeowners approve
the plotting, that is within their authority. The City would be
authorizing reasonable concurrence, and if the builder believes
that the homeowners are unreasonably withholding approval the
builder can come back to staff and the matter can then be resolved
administratively.
Jeff Roos stated he is concerned that the homeowners will not give
approval and this could hold up construction. He stated that
Bramalea is more than willing to work with the homeowners but
agreeing to a condition for their approval is not acceptable.
Christopher Clark stated he did not believe there was a problem in
that regard as long as construction is as plotted and the builder
does not make changes. He stated that the homeowners did not want
all Plan 4s because that would not look like a neighborhood.
Elain Nermon 2460 Kiser, stated that this decision will also affect
all of TRUCCA 3 and she does not understand the rush for a vote
this evening.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 10, 1996
Page 6
Lois Bobak stated that state law precludes the Planning Commission
from unilaterally continuing this matter. Under the Permit
Streamlining Act the Planning Commission only has a certain amount
of time to take action on a matter. That time ran out in March and
the builder consented to continuance but the builder is not
consenting to any further extensions. If the Planning Commission
fails to take action this evening, the matter would be deemed
approved.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:42 p.m.
Commissioner Bone asked if it was the consensus of the Planning
Commission that the Plan 6 units be limited to 15.
Commissioner Kasalek stated she would be more comfortable with
limiting the Plan 6 units to 12.
Commissioner Vandaveer agreed with Commissioner Kasalek.
Commissioner Lunn stated she was comfortable with limiting
construction to 12 Plan 6 units as long as the builder can return
to the Commission to increase that number if necessary.
The Public Hearing opened at 8:50 p.m.
Jeff Roos inquired if Condition 3.5 required breaking the median at
the construction access point.
Staff stated it was understood that construction access has already
been approved for that point along La Colina without breaking the
median.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:51 p.m.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Lunn seconded, to approve the
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 3431. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Lunn seconded, to approve Design
Review 95-042 by adopting Resolution No. 3432 revised as follows:
Condition 3.2, last sentence amended to read, "However, the maximum
number of Plan 6s shall not exceed 12 unless specifically approved
by the Planning Commission." Condition 3.3 revised to read, "The
Model Complex shall be located on Lots 81-84 and shall include a
Plan 4 and Plans 3 and/or 7. No Plan 6 shall be constructed in the
model complex." Condition 3.10 added, to read, "No plotting mix
change shall be made in Phase 1." Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Lunn seconded, to recommend that the
City Council approve Amendment to Vesting Tentative Tract map 13908
by adopting Resolution No. 3433 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
None Scheduled
Planning Commission Minutes
June 10, 1996
Page 7
STAFF CONCERNS:
Report on Actions taken at the June
Meetinq.
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
3, 1996 City Council
As a follow up to a question from Commissioner Bone at the
last Planning Commission Meeting about parking for the
apartments being moved at 1602 Nisson Road, staff reported
that the City Traffic Engineer, Doug Anderson, had looked at
the striping opportunities to allow for additional parking on
Nisson. The only additional parking will be the small stretch
where driveways will be closed up.
Commissioner Bone stated that his concern was to see "no parking"
posted on the curve.
Staff will ask Transportation Engineer, Doug Anderson, to call
Commissioner Bone on this matter.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Lunn
Stated that this would be her last Planning Commission
meeting. She is scheduled for surgery and will not be
reapplying for the position. She expressed her thanks
and appreciation to the members of the Commission and
staff, stating that she had enjoyed her tenure. She
congratulated Chairwoman Kasalek on the editorial
recently run about her in the Tustin Weekly.
Commissioner Mitzman
Inquired about the Shea Homes sign on the Case Swayne
pole sign.
Staff stated that the Redevelopment Department has been
working with Shea Homes for the use of that pole and
perhaps it was just a simulation test since the sign is
no longer up.
Stated he had noticed that vehicles have been offered for
sale on the old high school site and that informing the
Police Department seems to do no good.
Commissioner Vandaveer
Inquired about the Zoning Designation of a property at
1111 E1 Camino Real.
The Director will call the Commissioner tomorrow with the
information.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 10, 1996
Page 8
Commissioner Bone
Echoed the sentiments of the Tustin Weekly editorial on
Chairwoman Kasalek, stating that she was a fine leader,
does a lot for the community and deserved the
recognition.
Inquired about Royal Auto.
Staff declined to comment at this time for this item may
be the subject of potential litigation.
Concerning the June 5, 1996 Code Enforcement Status
Letter, he wished to inform staff that a poor job had
been done of removing weeds at the Arco Gas Station at
14152 Newport Avenue. He also informed staff that
vehicles have been parked at the Lucky Market parking lot
with sale prices painted across their windshields. He
also noticed that vehicles are using the high school site
for this activity.
The Director stated that this situation was being
monitored by Code Enforcement.
Commissioner Kasalek
Commended Commissioner Bone on his planning efforts and
the success of the State of the City luncheon. She also
stated that the Chili Cookoff was a great success.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Lunnseconded, to adjourn the meeting
at 9:07 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission is
on June 24, 1996 beginning at 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers, 300
Centennial Way, Tustin.
Chairw~fnan
BARBA~ ~EY~S
Recording Secretary