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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 14, 1995
C~LL TO ORDER~ 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ~LLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Bone, Kasalek, Mitzman and Vandaveer
Absent: Lunn
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1. Minutes of the July 24, 1995 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Bone moved, Vandaveer seconded, to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 3-0. Commissioner Kasalek abstained.
ITEM 7 WAS TAKEN OUT OF ORDER AT THE REQUEST OF MRo ED PANKEY
7. Status Update On Abandoned Sign Poles At 13922 Red Hill Avenue
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Assistant City Manager
Ed Pankey, 320 W. Main Street, stated that he had hired Greenwood
and Son Real Estate, to work with City staff to help develop the
parcel in question and requested deferment of any Code Enforcement
action for one year which would require the removal of the sign
posts. He stated that after the lease on Country Kitchen expires
his goal was to combine the two parcels which would then comprise
almost an acre and put something larger on the site. He feels the
sign would be advantageous in identifying freeway exiting for Old
Town Tustin as well as for advertisement of business on the site.
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August 14, 1995
Page 2
Commissioner Mitzman asked how Mr. Greenwood would be involved.
Carl Greenwood, 440 W. First Street, stated that he could not
answer that totally as yet since he had to study Mr. Pankey's
various holdings and help him identify an overall plan which would
enhance the site and bring revenue to the City as well as to Mr.
Pankey.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if his plan included contacting Country
Kitchen in regard to the lease.
Carl Greenwood stated he could not answer that since he had just
begun to work on the project.
Commissioner Vandaveer stated he would be abstaining due to a
conflict of interest.
Commissioner Bone in favor of allowing the poles until Mr. Pankey
has had an opportunity to work on the concept.
Commissioner Mitzman likes the idea of putting the two pieces of
property together but would like to see a progress report in six
months time.
Commissioner Kasalek would like to see something done before three
years and is glad to see Mr. Greenwood involved.
Commissioner Bone moved, Mitzman seconded, to direct staff to work
with the applicant and to re-agendize this matter for the Planning
Commission meeting which will occur nearest to six months time and
at which the applicant will provide a written status report in
order to evaluate any development proposed for the property. Motion
carried 3-0. Commission Vandaveer abstained due to conflict of
interest.
Lois Bobak, Deputy City Attorney, noted for the record that the
basis of Commissioner Vandaveers' conflict of interest was that Mr.
Pankey is a customer of his business.
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Conditional Use Permit 95-009 (Continued Public Hearing from
7-24-95)
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CAR CAPITAL INC.
ATTN: MR. GARY RHODES
18001 IRVINE BOULEVARD, SUITE 2C
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
18001 IRVINE BOULEVARD, SUITE 2C
PROFESSIONAL (PR) DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 3) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA EQUALITY ACT (CEQA)
TO ALLOW AN AUTOMOBILE PAWNBROKER BUSINESS IN
CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING AUTO BROKER BUSINESS
AT AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Commission.
Presentation: Robert A. Delgadillo, Assistant Planner
Planning Commission Minutes
August 14, 1995
Page 3
The Public Hearing continued at 7:20 p.m.
Robert A. Wehn, 18082 Lillian Way, stated he has lived 150 feet
from the building in question since 1961 and opposes the project
for the same reasons the Police Department opposes it. Also, he is
concerned that the owner of the building has purchased the two
homes directly behind the business. He stated that the parking lot
is already very congested and he feels that people who would pawn
their vehicles would not be able to redeem them and would virtually
be selling them. He is concerned about the exhaust fumes which
would be generated by cars pulling in and out.
Sergeant Joe Garcia, Tustin Police Department, stated that the
Police Department has some concern about Mr. Rhodes credibility
since a consumer complaint had been registered prior to this but
Mr. Rhodes had stated to the Police Department that he had not
operated this type of business before. The only other business
they have to compare this with is Big Daddy's Auto Loan which had
between 200-300 victims because of the type of people who were
desperate to pawn their cars. He stated that the Police Department
is concerned about the office being in Tustin and the cars being
stored in Santa Ana.
Lois Bobak stated that issues concerning the applicants credibility
and character are not relevant to the land use determination. The
Commission is only concerned with approval or disapproval of a
conditional use permit for the land use.
Gary Rhodes, owner of Car Capitol, stated that he assumed that the
consumer complaint mentioned had to do with buying the vehicle back
following his purchase of it and that the vehicle had not been
pawned. He stated that he really did not want to be a pawn broker
but this was something that he had been requested to do. He stated
that professional people with fleet vehicles pawn their vehicles
for various reasons. He feels that his service gives these people
the opportunity to redeem a vehicle when business picks up rather
than taking a tremendous loss on the vehicle by having to sell it
outright.
Commissioner Kasalek asked him to address the reason for doing
business in two cities.
Gary Rhodes stated it was simply a cost factor, that he is a very
small operation and spending a small amount on office and storage
space by only paying a per unit cost keeps his overhead down. He
stated that he has nothing to do with the lot behind the building;
that Car Capital has the use of two designated spots only. He is
in favor of the conditions imposed and anticipates handling 3 to 6
contracts weekly and this could be verified by the Police
Department. He also would have a bond in place and must show one
hundred thousand dollars in liquid assets to perform. He stated
that obviously, the owner of Big Daddy's did not stick to the
rules. He also commented that anyone in Orange County with a pawn
brokers license can pawn a vehicle but that he was imposing a
restriction on himself not to pawn any other items.
Commissioner Kasalek Asked if the owner of the building understood
that a wall had to be constructed as a condition of approval.
Gary Rhodes stated he had only recently become aware of this
condition, and did not have the opportunity to speak to the
building owner as yet and that he could not afford to construct the
wall himself. He feels he is being held hostage to a non-
conforming situation that has existed for quite some time.
Commissioner Kasalek asked Mr. Rhodes if his parking spaces were
marked and if he knew why the parking lot was so congested.
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August 14, 1995
Page 4
Gary Rhodes stated that there has been some construction going on
and that his spaces were marked but had become overgrown and the
signs taken down.
Commissioner Bone inquired as to what percent of the space in the
building was taken up by his office.
Gary Rhodes responded that it was no more than 15%.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked if it was correct that this was the
first time he had heard about the condition of the wall and did he
think the property owner would not be willing to put the wall up.
Gary Rhodes stated he does not remember reading this condition
before and consequently does not know what the cost would be and
would have to take a very hard look at it before making any
business decision concerning it.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:47 p.m.
Commissioner Vandaveer stated he would like to see a solid wall on
the back of the property and if the applicant is not ready to agree
to all of the conditions he would be reluctant to approve the
project.
Commissioner Bone stated that it was his understanding that the
Department of Motor Vehicles requires two dedicated spaces and that
this was a non-conforming parking lot. He feels approval would
only make a bad situation worse and cannot support the project.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that last April when the Commission
first looked at this item there was a positive use determination
that this was an acceptable business for the Professional District.
There were no issues or concerns voiced from the Police Department
at that time. She feels it is important to consider the land use
issue and she has a problem with the parking situation at this
location. If there was another location she would agree but not at
this particular site.
Commissioner Bone moved Mitzman seconded, to deny Conditional Use
Permit 95-009 requesting the establlshment of any automobile pawn
brokering business located at 18001 Irvine Boulevard. Motion
carried 4-0.
Zone Chanqe 95-001 (Warner Corporate Park)
APPLICANT:
OWNER/
CONTACT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
OLEN PROPERTY SERVICES
OLEN PROPERTY SERVICES
KATHRYN WADSWORTH
20 CORPORATE PARK
IRVINE, CA. 92714
1371 - 1431 WARNER AVENUE
PC INDUSTRIAL (PC-IND)
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREPARED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA)
REQUEST:
TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM PC-INDUSTRIAL
TO PC-INDUSTRIAL/BUSINESS TO ACCOMMODATE
PROFESSIONAL AND GENERAL OFFICE USES
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following actions:
Certify the Negative Declaration as adequate for the project
by adopting Resolution No, 3374; and
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2. Recommend to the City Council approval of Zone Change 95-001
by adopting Resolution No. 3372, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Robert A. Delgadillo, Assistant Planner
The Public Hearing opened at 7:56 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:56 p.m.
There was no discussion by the Planning Commission on this matter.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Bone seconded, to certify the
Negative Declaration as adequate for the project by adopting
Resolution No. 3374 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Comm~seioner Vandaveer moved, Mitzman seconded, to recommend to the
City Council approval of Zone Change 95-001 by adopting Resolution
No. 3372 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
4. Conditional Use Permit 95-010 & Design Review 95-024
APPLICANT:
OWNER
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
TUSTIN COMMUNITY PHARMACY
JERRY OSWALD
13400 NEWPORT AVENUE
TUSTIN, CA. 92680
13400 NEWPORT AVENUE
C-1 (RETAIL COMMERCIAL)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT CLASS 3 PURSUANT TO SECTION
15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
TO CONSTRUCT A DRIVE-THRU LANE FOR AN EXISTING
PHARMACY
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 95-010 and Design Review 95-024 by
adopting Resolution No. 3371, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Robert A. Delgadillo, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Mitzman inquired if there were any questions raised
about potential crime at a drive-thru.
Staff stated that the Police Department had voiced no concerns with
this operation.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if there had been any negative comments
from the public because of the change in the driveway.
Staff indicated there were none.
The Public Hearing opened at 8:03 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:03 p.m.
Commissioner Bone moved, Vandaveer seconded, to approve Conditional
Use Permit 95-010 and Design Review 95-024 by adopting Resolution
No. 3371 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
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August 14, 1995
Page 6
5. Conditiona~ Use Permit 95-011 and Design Review 95-025
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
STEVEN LANGFORD ARCHITECTS, INC.
JON HEDRICK, SENIOR DESIGNER
4 EXECUTIVE CIRCLE, SUITE 190
IRVINE, CA 92714
THE RREEF FUNDS
ATTN: MICHAEL F SEVERSON
1630 SOUTH SUNKIST STREET, SUITE A
ANAHEIM, CA 92806
1222 IRVINE BOULEVARD
RETAIL COMMERCIAL (C-l)
TOWN CENTER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO CATEGORICALLY
EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
SECTION 15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO PROVIDE OUTDOOR SEATING, ON-SITE
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AND NEON SIGNS AT AN
EXISTING RESTAURANT IN THE TUSTIN HEIGHTS SHOPPING
CENTER.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 95-011 and Design Review 95-025 by
adopting Resolution No. 3376, as submitted or revised.
Greg Gubman, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Kasalek asked the height of the wall surrounding the
outdoor seating area.
Staff stated there was no set standard established by the ABC but
that he had contacted and ABC investigator and that three feet was
generally the rule for a barrier surrounding an outdoor dining area
where alcohol is served.
Commissioner Vandaveer asked if it were typical to allow 18 year
olds to serve alcoholic beverages with just someone watching them.
Staff stated that full supervision was what was established in the
guidelines.
The Public Hearing opened at 8:10 p.m.
Michael F. Severson, RREEF Funds, representing the owners of the
Tustin Heights Shopping Center, stated that following Chuy's
proposal to lease a site for the restaurant he had traveled to
Austin Texas himself to check on the operation. He found that they
have five locations in Austin and it is a good family oriented and
financially strong business. Consequently the owners of the
shopping center are prepared to put in about one half million
dollars in tenant improvements for the building.
Commissioner Bone asked the targeted opening date.
Michael F.Severson stated 9-10 weeks and that they wanted to be
open by November.
Steve Jacobson, Vice President of Chuy's, Tustin Inc., stated that
the business had done 23 million in sales last year with the
existing stores. The recipes were developed about 15 years ago;
everything is fresh and it was a bit different than the Mexican
food of California. They are community oriented and this was one
of the reason that they were comfortable in choosing the Tustin
location. Their philosophy is that they do not spend a lot of
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August 14, 1995
Page 7
money on advertising, but rather, create special events to take
care of the needy and in doing so, develop a good relationship with
their customers.
John Kendall, stated that his property backs up to the shopping
center and he was glad to see something going in that vacant
location but was a little concerned about the noise from the
outdoor seating.
Staff stated that the seating is located on the opposite side of
the building from this residence and there would be no loud
speakers or music.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:20 p.m.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Bone seconded, to approve Conditional
Use Permit 95-011 and Design leviev 95-025 by adopting Resolution
No. 3376 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
6. Design Review 95-005
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
DONAHUE SCHRIBER
3501 JAMBOREE RD., SUITE 300
NEWPORT BEACH, CA. 92660
ATTN: MARK WHITFIELD
THE IRVINE COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA. 92658-8904
ATTN: KEITH EYRICH
TUSTIN MARKETPLACE
PLANNED COMMUNITY-MIXED USE (PC MU),
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO PROVIDE CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS
TO WEST DRIVE, SOUTH OF EL CAMINO REAL
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Design Review 95-005 by adopting Resolution No. 3381, as
submitted or revised.
Presentation: Sara J. Pashalides, Associate Planner
Commissioner Mitzman inquired about safety of pedestrians from the
parking lot to the store.
Staff stated it was suggested that the Garden Center customers walk
a little further south, closer to the front entrance of Home Depot
and then cross just as any other customer of Home Depot.
The Director stated that she had spot checked this situation on two
separate Saturdays and that the pedestrians are crossing and as a
result there is backing up of vehicles into the intersection.
Gary Vaccaro, Vice President, Irvine Company, stated he was pleased
to address the Commission to resolve the West Drive circulation
issues and to complete the requirements of the Black Angus design
review. He stated he supports the conditions as found in the
report.
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August 14, 1995
Page 8
Commissioner Mitzman commented that he would like to see Condition
of Approval 1.3 amended to allow a six months time frame instead of
18 months.
Commissioner Vandaveer does not support the pedestrian access
because of the traffic problem.
Commissioner Bone has personally observed the traffic and believes
the pedestrian crossing would be beneficial to the Home Depot
customers. He supports it but would like to see the crossing
striped.
Commissioner Mitzman cannot support the additional pedestrian
crossing since he feels it too close to the intersection.
Commissioner Kasalek does not want to see any striping as she feels
it gives a false sense of security and is concerned with the size
of the opening.
The Director stated that one of the original conditions was the
ability of the City to go in 6 months later and re-evaluate and see
if the traffic improvements would be adequate. In meetings with
the applicant over the past 90 days this particular issue has not
been discussed and was not raised until last Wednesday. Staff has
previously agreed to recommend to the Commission that there not be
a monitoring condition and that if they do all of these
improvements the City would not come back 6 months later and ask
for a traffic study. However, with this particular newly
introduced proposal, staff cannot tell what it will present in the
way of problems and in the event there are problems there would be
no way to correct the situation without a monitoring condition.
Home Depot has not been in compliance with any of the conditions of
the use permit and temporary use permits on outdoor storage and
this appears to be a way Home Depot is using to control the
situation. Staff cannot at this time recommend that this proposal
is in the best interest of the public health and safety.
Douq Anderson City Traffic Engineer, stated that the Engineering
Division has had the opportunity to review, over the last 2 years,
all three traffic studies and in all three it has been identified
that the leading contributing factor to congestion at the
intersection as well as on-site has been the conflict between
vehicles and pedestrians. He stated that the proposal to provide
for egress of two lanes of 240 to 250 feet which would accommodate
500 vehicles per hour would be detrimental if the pedestrian access
was cut through as proposed in Exhibit C of the staff report. Any
attempt to increase the vehicle/pedestrian conflict is detrimental
to traffic circulation and to the safety of pedestrians.
Commissioner Bone asked how far the proposed pedestrian crossing
was from the drive curb.
Staff stated 50-60 feet between the first aisle drive and the
proposed pedestrian access.
Gary Vaccaro, stated that this addition to the application had been
requested by Home Depot and the Irvine Company had thought this was
a reasonable request. He stated The Irvine Company was very
serious about this design review proposal and did not want it
denied for this one issue. He proposed bringing this issue back to
the Commission at a later date.
com~issioner Mitzman moved Vandaveer seconded, to approve Design
Review 95-005 by adopting Resolution No. 3381 revised as follows,
Condition 1.3 shall read, "Design Review approval shall become null
and void unless &ll building and/or grading permits are issued
within six months of the date of this Exhibit and substantial
construction is underway." Motion carried 4-0.
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Page 9
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THIS ITEM WAS TAKEN OUT OF ORDER AND DISCUSSED FOLLOWING THE
CONSENT CAI~ENDAR.
STAFF CONCERNS:
Report on Actions taken at the August 7,
Meeting.
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
1995 City Council
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Vandaveer -
None
Commissioner Bone
Asked if staff would provide copies of all public hearing
notices to the Planning Commission members prior to
appearance of the notices in the newspaper.
Staff will see that this is done.
Inquired if staff was aware of new legislation concerning
exemption of cellular phone towers from local zoning.
Staff stated that they have been working with the Public
Utilities Commission and it appears that both the PUC and
public cellular companies are generally supportive of
keeping local control over the siting of local cellular
facilities. Staff will keep the Commission informed of
the status of any proposed legislation and will follow up
with a report at the next regular meeting as to what
action may be needed and if the City will need to contact
contingencies in Washington concerning this legislation.
Inquired if Planning Commission information was
distributed to the Public Library and to the Police
Department as a matter of routine.
Staff responded that the Public Library receives the
information on a regular basis but it is not currently
distributed to the public counter of the Police
Department.
Reported that the news racks at the car wash near the
Post Office on First Street were blocking the sidewalk
and asked to have something done about it.
Staff will refer the matter to the Public Works
Department for follow up.
Commissioner Mitzman
Inquired if the City had received any complaints about
the extremely bright parking lot lights at the new
McDonalds at Tustin Ranch.
Staff responded that there had been some contact with the
City concerning this matter and that conditions imposed
concerning the wall around the Tustin Ranch frontage and
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August 14, 1995
Page 10
drive aisle along Bryan Avenue as well as some of the
landscaping had been bonded for and were not yet
completed. The business owner has indicated that they
wish to modify the original conditions of approval
imposed by the City Council to relieve them of these
requirements. The matter is tentatively scheduled for
September 18, 1995.
Commented that he thought it nice that the new Chuy's
Restaurant had chosen Tustin for their first California
location and that Mrs. Gooches also chose Tustin as its
first Orange County location.
Commissioner Kasalek
Commended staff for their efforts with Chuy's and Mrs.
Gooches and also for the excellent ratings received in
the customer service reports.
Inquired if the railroad track at Walnut between Myford
and Franklin Avenues was being used, stating that the
crossing was a nightmare for vehicles.
Doug Anderson, Traffic Engineer, responded that this was
a spur line currently in use by some of the business in
that area and that the railroad had been requested to
repair this condition within 30 days.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Mitzman seconded, to adjourn the
meeting to a workshop at 5:30 p.m. prior to the next regular
Planning Commission meeting of august 28, 1995. The meeting
adjourned at 9=04 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission is
on August 28, 1995 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers at 300
Centennial Way, Tustin.
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Chairpef~son
BARBARA ' R~
Recording Secretary