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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 24v 1995
CALL TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIS%NCR/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Bone, Lunn, Mitzman and Vandaveer
Absent: Kasalek
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1. Minutes of the July 10, 1995 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Lunn moved, Vandaveer seconded, to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 4-0·
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
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RAISED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING DESCRIBED IN THIS
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TO THE CITY OF TUSTIN AT, OR PRIOR TO, THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
Conditional Use Permit 95-006, Design Review 95-021
And Sign Code Exception 95-005
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
RALPH RINGO
MILAGRA DESIGN
2900 BRISTOL STREET, SUITE A-202
COSTA MESA, CA 92626
RICK AND HONORENE BROWN
13411 PORTAL
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July 24, 1995
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LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
TUSTIN, CA 92680
1792 SAN JUAN STREET
SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL (R-4)
THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CATEGORICALLY
EXEMPT (CLASS 3) PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
SECTION 15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT.
AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH A MONTESSORI
PRESCHOOL/DAY CARE FACILITY AND TO INSTALL A
MONUMENT SIGN.
Recommendation -It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 95-006, Design Review 95-021 and
Sign Code Exception 95-005, by adopting Resolution No. 3370, as
submitted or revised.
Presentation: Gregory S. Gubman, Assistant Planner
The Public Hearing opened at 7:07 p.m.
Ronald Olsen, 13732 Farmington Road, Tustin, stated his main
concern was the parking and pick up/drop off of the students. There
are times during the day that he cannot get to his own home and
feels the project will add to the traffic congestion.
Jackie Carter 13711 Falmouth, voiced concern that parents will use
the church parking lot which is next door to the project for
parking and as a member of the church, this would be totally
unacceptable. She does not like the idea of the sign in this
residential area. She is concerned that the apartment residents
will be parking on the street and there will be no parking
available for the school especially with soccer and Little League
which already keeps the streets packed.
Commissioner Bone asked if the house of the proposed use was empty.
Julie Carter stated it has been empty since October.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:15 p.m.
Douq Anderson, Public Works Department Transportation Engineer,
stated that the project has been thoroughly evaluated as to how it
impacts the local street system. Currently, San Juan carries 2900
vehicles per day in the area of the project and is classified on
the City's General Plan Arterial Highway System as a local street
which acts as a collector street. Such streets are designed to
carry 12,000 vehicles per day. The traffic generation from this
project with the staggered hours represents 24 additional trips per
peak hour both morning and afternoon. The street will more than
accommodate the proposed traffic and will not result in any type of
loss of service.
Commissioner Vandaveer
parking.
inquired if the traffic analysis included
Douq Anderson stated it includes on-street parking and that the
parking is wide open.
commissioner Lunn Asked if the school was going to provide on-site
parking and how did the hours of operation coincide with the
elementary school.
Douq Anderson stated that there would be two proposed drop off
hours of the project, 7:30 A.M. and 9:30 A.M. and the school drop
hours for other schools in the vicinity are 7:50 A.M. to 8:05 A.M.
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July 24, 1995
Page 3
¢o~missioner Bone asked what percentage of the 48 maximum students
would be dropped off at 7:30 A.M. He asked how long it took to
pick up and drop off a child.
Doug Anderson responded that 50% of the students would be dropped
off at 7:30 A.M. The industry standard rate used is 2-3 minutes
for pick up and drop off and most of the people picking up would be
accommodated by the on-site parking.
The Director stated that using the experience of other child care
facilities, there have not been any traffic problems with even
higher enrollments than this. In addition, Condition 6.5 gives the
Public Works Department authority to implement corrective measures
if needed.
As requested by Commissioner Mitzman, staff planner Gubman went
over the points raised in the Drake letter one by one. As far as
objection to a business being located in a residential area, this
use is considered institutional and the same as other schools in
the vicinity. Traffic and parking issues were covered by the Public
Works Department. Litter is not anticipated since this use is not
considered a retail operation. Staff has done a detailed analysis
with respect to compatibility with the surrounding uses and
believes the use would have a beneficial affect by conveniently
providing a day care facility near a residential neighborhood.
Noise levels, are to be mitigated in two ways: a 6'-8" high wall or
fence will be in place once the use is established and the City's
Noise Ordinance has noise standards. The proposed 4 foot sign, is
compatible with the residential character of the area and is not
unique since there is signage already in place for the apartment
complex, the school and the church all within a few feet of the
subject property. Staff does not feel that quality of life would be
diminished since zoning does permit the use and there are already
non-residential uses in the neighborhood of a more intense use than
the proposed use.
Commissioner Bone believes the use is compatible with
neighborhood and is in favor.
the
Commissioner Lunn commented that in previous approvals of this kind
there have been no complaints and she is in favor.
Commissioner Mitzman stated that the proposed use is complimentary
to the other two schools and does not see a problem with it.
Commissioner Vandaveer was initially concerned about the noise
levels but feels the wall will mitigate it and is in favor of the
project.
Commissioner Lunn moved, Va~daveer seconded, to approve Conditional
Use Permit 95-006, Design Review 95-021 and Sign Code Exception 95-
005 by adopting Resolution No. 3370 as submitted. Motion carried
4-0.
Conditional Use Permit 95-009 (Continued Public Hearing from
7-10-95)
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
CAR CAPITAL INC.
ATTN: MR. GARY RHODES
18001 IRVINE BOULEVARD, SUITE 2C
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
18001 IRVINE BOULEVARD, SUITE 2C
PROFESSIONAL (PR) DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 3) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA EQUALITY ACT (CEQA)
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REQUEST:
TO ALLOW AN AUTOMOBILE PAWNBROKER BUSINESS IN
CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING AUTO BROKER BUSINESS
AT AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING
Recommendation -It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 95-009 by adopting Resolution No.
3368 as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Robert A. Delgadillo, Assistant Planner
The Director noted that in addition to the modifications to
conditions as noted in the staff report and suggested by the City
Attorney there was an additional memorandum transmitted from the
City Attorney's office late today providing additional
clarification and to strengthen the conditions. This memorandum
was distributed to the Commission and made available to the public
just prior to this meeting.
The Public Hearing continued at 7:45 p.m.
Bob Wehn 18082 Lillian Way, Tustin, stated that he has lived at his
present location since 1961 and it is about 100 feet from the
proposed project location. He expressed his opposition to the
project by reading and agreeing with the Police Department review
comments of the staff report. He stated that the two homes
directly behind the commercial building which is the proposed
location have been purchased and that the fence was down and gravel
had been installed which looks like a place were about 20 cars
could be parked.
Commissioner Bone asked who it was who purchased the homes.
Bob Wehn stated that 14791 Livingston Street was owned by a Mark
Bucher, was a corner house with a fan shaped piece of property
behind it, and in the past was used to store two hugh vans.
Staff noted that what appears to be a storage yard behind the
project location is not an authorized use and it had been referred
to Code Enforcement. It was not connected with the applicant nor
the project location.
Lois Bobak, Deputy city Attorney, stated that the issue of land use
authority needs to be separated from what are stipulated
requirements under the pawn brokers license which is a separate
Section of the Code and requires separate conditions and a full set
of regulations backed up by State law. A pawn brokers license
cannot be issued if there is evidence that an individual has been
convicted of receiving or attempting to receive stolen property.
Those are the only grounds relating to crime upon which the City
can deny the license. The City cannot legally deny a permit
because it is "believed" that a crime may be committed. The
Commission should be concerned with the land use issues only.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:56 P.M.
Commissioner Lunn asked which City has jurisdiction over the
project since the vehicles were to be stored in Santa Ana while the
pawn broker office was in Tustin.
The Director stated that jurisdiction regulating the pawn broker
use was the City where the transaction occurred and that would be
Tustin.
Lois Bobak stated that the City Attorney has been working with the
Tustin Police Chief in developing some very comprehensive
conditions that will be attached to any future pawn brokers license
should a Conditional Use Permit allow for such license to be
subsequently issued.
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July 24, 1995
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~omm~ssioner Bone asked how many employees the project would have
and how many people were working in the building.
Staff stated Mr. Rhodes was the only employee and it was not known
how many people were working in the building.
Commissioner Bone asked the address of the storage yard.
Gary Rhodes,
located at
Connection.
applicant, stated that it was an inside storage
423 E. Columbine, Santa Ana, called Marty's Car
Commissioner Vandaveer asked how long it took to evaluate a vehicle
and was an appointment necessary.
Gary Rhodes stated it took about two minutes to evaluate and ten
minutes to fill out the paperwork. He stated that he was not
equipped for walk-ins and everything was done by appointment.
Commissioner Bone asked the present business hours and if a check
was written right after the paperwork was completed. He also asked
what would happen if he was not able to keep this particular
storage area for any reason.
Gary Rhodes, stated the hours were 9:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M., Monday
through Friday and that a client would be asked to follow Mr.
Rhodes over to the storage unit and the check was issued in Santa
Ana. Mr. Rhodes stated there were alternative storage places
available should this particular one become unavailable.
Commissioner Lunn asked how he would know if there was an existing
lien on any particular vehicle.
Gary Rhodes stated that he verifies the vehicle identification
number and gets the whole history on the vehicle through Title
Research Company of Anaheim. If there was a unlisted lien on a
vehicle he would be the loser.
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Mitzman seconded, to approve
Conditional Use Permit 95-009 by adopting Resolution No. 3368
amended as follows, Condition 1.8, last sentence which states "or
not possess a valid pawn brokers license from the State of
California", removed; Condition 2.Sa mended to read, "The applicant
shall be limited to performing no more than one (1) physical on-
site vehicle evaluation/inspection per half hour for the purposes
of determining if any auto pawn will be granted". The following
Conditions of approval have been added. Condition 1.6, shall read,
"The applicant shall be in compliance at all times with all
recluirements of the City's Pawnbroker's license, and provisions of
the Business and Professional Code and Financial Code applicable to
pawnbrokers."; Condition 1.10, tO read," Non-renewal or revocation
of the City's Pawnbroker's license shall be & ground for initiation
of revocation procedures for this CUP."; Condition 1.11 to read,
"Prior to exercising this CUP (applicant's actual operation of
auto-pawn services), the applicant shall obtain a City of Tustin
Pawnbroker's License."; Condition 1.12 to read, "The applicant
shall not violate any City ordinances, provisions of the Penal Code
relating to an attempt to receive stolen property, or commit any
other offense regarding stolen property, or violate provisions of
the Business and Professions Code or Financial Code applicable to
pawnbrokers." and Condition 2.9 to read, "& vehicle taken in pawn
shall be promptly removed to storage. No such vehicle shall remain
at the business address after completion of the loan for more than
thirty (30) minutes." Condition 2.2 modified to read, "A record of
all transactions shall be kept on the premises at all times and
shall be made available for inspection by the Tustin Police
Department. The contents of said record shall comply with Tustin
City Code Section 3612(a) as required by applicant's City of Tustin
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Pawn Brokers License."; Condition 2.3 amended to read, "The
reporting of daily transactions and the contents of the report
shall be in accordance with the City of Tustin Pawn Brokers
License". Motion failed 2-2. Commissioners Bone and Lunn opposed.
Following discussion, the Planning Commission unanimously directed
staff to return with this item at the next meeting to provide an
opportunity to break the tie vote since Commissioner Kasalek was
absent. The Public Hearing opened at 8:16 p.m. and is continued to
the meeting of August 14, 1995.
REGULAR BUSINESS=
4. Status Report
Receive and File
Commissioner Vandaveer moved, Lunn seconded, to receive and file
this report. Motion carried 4-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
Report on Actions taken at the July 17, 1995 City Council
Meeting.
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Bone - None
Commissioner Vandaveer
Inquired about the status of the Popeye's Chicken sign on
Newport Avenue and requested something be done with the
dilapidated garbage bag which is now covering the old
sign.
Staff stated that the owner has applied for a Sign Code
Exception but was slow in responding to corrections to their
plans. The City has issued a request for the corrections and
given a short time frame for submittal of an application or
Code Enforcement would be enacted; they have also been asked
to put something better looking than the garbage bag up during
the temporary condition.
Commissioner Mitzman
Expressed concern about the grass now dying and trees
which had broken off and not yet replaced in the
landscaping at Tustin Ranch. Asked how the landscaper
could be fired.
Staff stated that payments for June and July had been withheld
and that the Public Works Department was working with the
contractor and acting under direction of the City Manager.
The Public Works Director will provide a report for the
Commission on this issue.
Concerning the project status list, asked if there was a
way to take projects off the report if it is known that
they have been dropped by the applicant.
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Staff stated that it was a twelve month list except in the
case of Design Review which was 18 months and unless an
applicant pulled an item off the list, it would remain on the
list until a time period ran out. The Director stated that
staff will review the present list thoroughly for any items
which may need removal.
Commissioner Lunn
Inquired about the status of the Tustin Hospital vacant
lot and the basketball idea.
The Director stated that the Hospital had been contacted and
asked if there was interest some months ago, staff is awaiting
feed-back from Texas headquarters. Acquisition activities on
the Youth Center, however, are proceeding and a purchase
agreement is in preparation.
Inquired about the fence at McFadden/55 Freeway and who
was responsible for it. She noted that the fence has
been trampled down and she would like to see something
done before someone gets hurt crossing the road by using
this as a short cut to Circle K.
Doug Anderson, Transportation Engineer, stated that the right-
of-way was split down the middle of Pasadena, the fence to the
east belongs to the City and the portion to the west belongs
to Caltrans.
The Director stated that staff has been assigned the
responsibility to expedite Caltrans review as to where to put
the fence. If Caltrans will not move fast enough, the fence
will be set back to the City property line. Staff has been
exploring Freeway standard fencing specifications that could
not be cut or scaled.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Lunn moved, Vandaveer seconded to adjourn the meeting
at 8:29 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission is
on August 14, 1995 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers at 300
Centennial Way, Tustin. ~ ~~
LOU BONE
Chairman Pro Tem
Secretary
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