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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR HEETING
FEBRUARY 13, 1995
CALL TO ORDER:
7:02 p.m., City Council Chambers
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ROLL CALL: Present: Baker, Kasalek, Mitzman and Weil
Absent: Lunn
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1. Minutes of the January 23, 1995 Planninq Commission Meetinq.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Mitzman seconded to approve the consent
calendar with the following correction: Page 7, Paragraph 6, should
read, "Commissioner Well asked Mr. Burns if the illuminated sign
could be turned off at closing time instead of one half hour after
closing time." Motion carried 4-0.
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 2
Continued Hearinq - Amendment to Vesting Tentative
Tract Map 14188 and Design Review 94-033
APPLICANT/
OWNER
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
STANDARD PACIFIC
1565 W. MacARTHUR BLVD.
COSTA MESA~ CA 92626
ATTN: PEGGY ROBERTS
TRACT 14188, WEST SIDE
RAWLINGS WAY
PLANNED COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL - (LOW
RESIDENTIAL) - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
OF TOWNSHIP DRIVE AT
DENSITY
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
AUTHORIZATION TO ADD THREE ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION
UNITS TO THE BUILDOUT OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT
Recommendation- Pleasure of the Commission.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
The Public Hearing opened at 7:07 p.m.
Michael Nermon, 2460 Kiser, stated he was a resident of the San
Rafael tract and agrees to the solution of the monumentation issue
as proposed. He requested that the majority of the residents be
allowed to approve the design criteria rather than the Homeowners
Association.
John Cochran, 2415 Kiser, stated that based on discussions with
Standard Pacific representatives the proposal on the table was
acceptable to him and the other residents in attendance.
Jack Jung, 11995 Lambert, stated he resided on Lot 9 of the
existing San Rafael neighborhood and he was pleased with the
discussions he has had with Standard Pacific and the progress made.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:11 p.m.
Commissioner Weil commended everyone involved in this project and
appreciated the effort made to resolve the issue.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:11 p.m.
David Foell, representing Standard Pacific, stated that they had
come to a collective agreement acceptable to both the neighborhood
and Standard Pacific and asked for Commission approval.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:12 p.m.
Commissioner Well moved, Kasalek seconded, to approve Design Review
94-033 by adopting Resolution No. 3324 as revised. Exhibit A, page
3, condition 3.8 shall read, "The construction of Lots 1, 5 and 6
shall occur prior to or concurrently with the construction of Phase
I of the buildout of the subject project. No certificate of
occupancy shall be issued for any dwelling within the next phase of
new development unless certificates of occupancy have been issued
for Lots 1, 5 and 6." Page 4, Condition 4.3, third sentence, shall
read, "A representative group of four existing homeowners selected
by ballot of a majority of existing residents (51%), with one vote
per property shall review and comment to the City on the final
design details prior to issuance of permits for said improvements."
Motion carried 4-0.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 3
Commissioner Well moved, Kasalek seconded, to recommend to the City
Council approval of amendment to Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14188
by adopting Resolution No. 3325 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
3. Conditional Use Permit 94-016 and Design Review 94-025
APPLICANT:
LAND OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
FANCHER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, INC.
1342 BELL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
THADDEUS J. MORIARTY, JR.
1447 GALAXY DRIVE
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
14042 RED HILL AVENUE
RETAIL COMMERCIAL (C-i)
AND JAMES G. WHITE
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY PREPARED
FOR THIS PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS
OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
1. APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A
FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH
LANE;
2. APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A
FREESTANDING FREEWAY SIGN; AND
3. APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN
AND SITE MODIFICATIONS FOR A 1,989 SQUARE FOOT
FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.
Recommendation -It is recommended that the Planning Commission take
the following actions:
me
Recertify the Negative Declaration as adequate for the project
by adopting Resolution No. 3332;
Adopt Resolution No. 3333 approving Conditional Use Permit 94-
016 and Design Review 94-030 for a drive-thru restaurant and
denying a freeway pole sign, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Baker asked if the driveway at Red Hill was for
ingress. He also asked if trucks unloading in the loading zone
during non peak hours was of significant impact and if there was a
possibility of 17 cars stacking.
Staff stated that the driveway on Red Hill was for both ingress and
egress and that the language concerning the truck unloading was a
standard condition with no impact. Staff stated that the City
traffic engineer had reviewed the queuing analysis provided by the
applicant and concurs with the findings of the report.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the physical median was a part of the
present action before a certificate of occupancy would be granted.
Staff stated the applicant would only be responsible for the
improvements in front of his property.
Commissioner Baker asked how this pole sign compares with the pole
sign at Carl's Jr.
Staff stated that the Carls Jr. sign was 35 feet in height and 50
square feet in area and there was a condition imposed as part of
that project that the City would review the height of that sign
once the freeway was completed and it could be reduced to not more
than 24 feet.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 4
Commissioner Kasalek asked if in lieu of the pole sign something
could be changed architecturally so that identification could be
placed on the building. She asked the height of this building.
Staff is not aware if the applicant had looked at any other
possibility than what they have proposed. Staff stated the
building was about 20 feet in height. Taco Bell representatives
have had an extreme position in keeping to their architectural
prototype. An alternative would be for Taco Bell to share with
Cafe Auto Spa the existing nonconforming billboard sign which is
located at the north easterly property line.
Commissioner Kasalek asked that if the pole sign was not approved
would the applicant have an option to alter the building height.
Staff stated that substantial alterations in regard to design would
be handled at staff level; language could be included in the
resolution to provide for additional orientation.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:30 p.m.
Scott Duffner, _Vice President of Fancher Development and
representing Taco Bell, stated that he had only two concerns, the
recommendation to deny the pole sign and, the site lighting issue.
He feels that Cafe Auto Spa has decorative lights which would not
provide the ten foot-candles required by Taco Bell. In regard to
the pole sign, he feels that the 24 feet gives them a degree of
visibility.
Commissioner Weil asked if any visual studies in terms of the
effectiveness of the sign had been done?
Scott Duffer stated that he did a limited balloon test on it. He
stated they would prefer a 35 foot high sign similar to Carls Jr.
but are willing to accept the 24 foot high, 50 square foot area
sign if it could stay in the location as submitted. He stated that
Cafe Auto Spa was not interested in sharing the billboard sign.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if he didn't think that there would be
better visibility if the height of the building were increased.
Scott Duffner stated that they don't have a lot of building area to
put signage on as the building is only 35 feet wide by 54 feet long
at an overall height of 18 feet so that for it to become effective
signage it would have to go up three stories. They will agree to
design the sign in accordance with staff recommendation should the
Commission allow the sign as submitted.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:39 p.m.
Commissioner Weil is in favor of the project as submitted. She is
concerned that a pole sign of 24 feet may not be high enough in
that location, and feels that a height of 35 feet would be more
effective.
Commissioner Kasalek has concerns with the traffic on Red Hill and
also asked staff if there was a problem with the decorative
lighting. She is in favor of the pole sign as submitted.
Staff stated there was concern that ten foot-candles may require a
more detailed analysis to make sure the property does not light up
as an advertising device. The lights do not have to be a
replication of those at Cafe Auto Spa but should be compatible and
decorative.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 5
Commissioner Mitzman agrees with the other Commissioners, and would
be in favor of separating the sign issue from the project to give
it further study.
The Public Hearing opened at 7:50 p.m.
Scott Duffner appreciated the latitude with regard to the
decorative lights as presented by staff but did want the 24 foot
sign approved without continuance.
Commissioner Weil stated that the Commission wants to consider the
signage separately.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:56 p.m.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded, to recertify the
Negative Declaration as adequate for the project by adopting
Resolution No. 3332 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Well moved, Kasalek seconded, to approve Conditional
Use Permit 94-016 and Design Review 94-030 for a drive-thru
restaurant revised as follows: Resolution No. 3333 title shall have
the words, "and denying a freeway pole sign on the property",
deleted. Resolution pages 3, 4 and 5 shall have items G and H
deleted. Resolution Page 5, Section II, shall delete the words,
"and denies the freeway pole sign". Exhibit A, page one, Condition
1.1, insert a sentence two to read, "The Director may approve
modifications to the plans to raise the building height and fascia
consistent with the proposed architecture and/or that of the
adjacent Auto Spa architecture. Sentence three shall remain.
Exhibit A, page 3, Condition 3.5 shall change "68 seats" to read,
"71 seats". Exhibit A, page 4, Condition 4.4, sentence four, shall
read, "Freestanding fixtures in the parking area may be mounted on
concrete bases and shall be decorative fixtures subject to approval
of the Community Development Department." Motion carried 4-0.
The Director stated that it would be helpful to the applicant to
identify the information required prior to this item being
rescheduled. Staff asked for written confirmation that Taco Bell
had requested sharing the current copy area of the billboard sign
identified at the Cafe Auto Spa; that they provide a site line and
freeway elevation sections that identifies the relationship with
the proposed freeway sign at both the proposed heights and include
the alternate 35 foot height discussed by Commissioner Weil and
examining the freeway ramp grades in relationship to the alternate
sign heights at the far right lanes in each direction of the
freeway.
4. Zone Change 94-006
APPLICANT
CALIFORNIA PACIFIC HOMES
5 CIVIC PLAZA, SUITE 100
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
ATTN: WILLIAM L. MOORHOUS
LOCATION: EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
ZONING: EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN, PLANNED
RESIDENTIAL
COMMUNITY
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
REQUEST:
TO MODIFY SUBSECTION "a" OF SECTION 3.6.3.C3 OF THE
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN ENTITLED "PROJECTIONS
INTO REQUIRED SETBACKS" RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF PATIO COVER AND
TRELLIS STRUCTURES WITHIN PATIO HOME DEVELOPMENTS.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 6
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following actions:
Approve the Environmental Determination for the project by
adopting Resolution No. 3330 and;
Recommend to the City Council approval of Zone Change 94-006
by adopting Resolution No. 3331, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
The Public Hearing opened at 8:05 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:05 p.m.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Well seconded, to approve Environmental
Determination for the project by adopting Resolution No. 3330 as
submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Well seconded, to recommend to the City
Council approval of Zone Change 94-006 by adopting Resolution No.
3331 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
5. Conditional Use Permit 93-011 and Variance 93-002
PROPERTY
OWNER/
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
1451 IRVINE BOULEVARD
TUSTIN, CA 92680-3844
ATTENTION: MS. MARIE MURILLO
1451 IRVINE BOULEVARD
PROFESSIONAL (PR) DISTRICT
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREPARED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA).
1. A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN
EXISTING MOTIVATIONAL SCHOOL TO OCCUPY AN
ENTIRE OFFICE COMPLEX.
2. A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF
PARKING SPACES FROM 150 SPACES TO 111 SPACES.
Recommendation -Pleasure of the Commission.
Presentation: Scott Reekstin, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Mitzman, asked why the applicant did not get the
appropriate building permits when the changes were done and did the
attendance count as mentioned on page 3 of the staff report include
their staff.
Staff suggested that these questions be directed to the applicant.
Commissioner Kasalek stated she had a hard time justifying 127
parking space when the anticipated maximum attendance was stated as
70.
The Public Hearing opened at 8:15 p.m.
Coralee Newman, Government Solutions, representing the Church of
Scientology, stated she has spent the last year working with staff
and the applicant to bring this item before the Commission since
it's continuance last year. She concurs with all the conditions as
outlined in the staff report. The difficulties with the neighbors
arising in the late 1980's have been resolved. A wall has been
construction around the parking lot and they have tried to mitigate
noise issues. As far as she knows there have been no complaints for
a number of years. A detailed traffic analysis was done by a
traffic engineer and it was concluded that the existing parking lot
Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 7
meets the church's requirements. The church has a written
agreement with the office building across the street which provides
13 parking spaces which helps mitigate the parking peaks occurring
in the evening hours of operation. They have agreed to reconfigure
the assembly space to reduce it by 1300 square feet and agree to
the condition that they will not use the chapel and theater
concurrently with classroom time. Based on all the changes, she
hoped the Commission would approve the requests.
Commissioner Weil asked if there was a written agreement with the
office building across the street since that statement contradicts
the staff report.
Coralee Newman stated that the church had a lease, whereby they
lease office space in the building across the street which allows
them to use the 13 parking spaces.
Rev. Ed Dearborn, Executive Director, Church of Scientology, Orange
County, stated that as the new director he is making it his
personal commitment to abide with all the conditions of the new
permit. He stated that he and the members of the church are very
interested in the needs and concerns of the community.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if an anticipated 15-70 maximum was
expected in the peak evening hours and if so why did they need 127
parking spaces?
Rev. Dearborn stated that they also have 50 staff members.
Commissioner Baker asked if the complaints about excessive
lighting had been taken care of.
Staff stated that there have been no complaints concerning the
lighting; only the noise, and when neighbors had been questioned
recently they had mentioned that most of the problems had occurred
a number of years ago.
Sandra Drummond, 12961 Keith Place, stated she did not understand
why more parking places were required; the lights were still a
problem and she was not happy.
Commissioner Weil asked if Ms. Drummond had contacted staff about
these complaints.
Sandra Drummond, stated that a City representative had spoken to
her about six months ago and there were no complaints because she
lives on the other side of the street and does not hear the noise
personally but she can see the lights and they bother her.
The Public Hearing closed at 8:31 p.m.
Commissioner Weil stated she was impressed with the new Director of
the church who seems to have more of a handle on the situation than
previous Directors but perhaps he could get together with Ms.
Drummond after the meeting to resolve her problems.
Commissioner Kasalek stated she agrees with the comments of
Commissioner Weil and has no problem with approval.
Commissioner Mitzman will support the project.
Commissioner Baker stated that in hearing Ms. Drummond, he
suggested also that she get together with the new Director to
resolve the problems. He has no problem with approval as long as
the parking remains adequate.
Commissioner Well moved, Mitzman seconded, to certify the final
negative declaration as adequate for Conditional Use Permit 93-011
and Variance 93-002 by adopting Resolution No. 3334 as submitted.
Motion carried 4-0.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 8
Commissioner Well moved, Mitzman seconded, to approve Conditional
Use Permit 93-011, by adopting Resolution No. 3335 as submitted.
Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Well moved, Mitzman seconded, to approve Variance 93-
002, by adopting Resolution 3336 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
None
STAFF CONCERNS:
6. Report on Actions taken
at February
Meetinq
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
6, 1995 City Council
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Kasalek
Asked if something could be done about the signal lights
between Nisson and E1 Camino on Red Hill not being
synchronized since traffic is getting caught at the
intersection.
Staff stated that the City controls the signal at E1 Camino and Red
Hill as well as the signal at Nisson and Red Hill but that Caltrans
controls the two signals at the ramps on Red Hill. Caltrans has
not permitted jurisdiction to place controls on their signals and
there is a delay in the sequence when the programs switch. The
problem is being addressed.
Commissioner Mitzman
- Asked the status of the Mercury Savings Building.
Staff stated that currently the project is in plan check.
Asked to have a regularly scheduled reminder on the Brown
Act provisions.
Staff noted that a presentation had been made by Deputy City
Attorney Lois Bobak and that staff asked for a written synopsis to
be presented to the Commission. Lois Bobak will follow up on the
status of this report.
Wished to have it placed on record that he will not be
participating in the discussions concerning the East
Tustin Specific Plan changes nor the proposed high
school.
Proposed to agendize for the next regularly scheduled
Planning Commission meeting discussion on formation of an
ad hoc builder/City committee.
Commissioner Wei]
Requested that an update on Base Closure be agendized and
asked when the next Task Force Meeting would occur.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 13, 1995
Page 9
Staff noted that the next Task Force Meeting has been scheduled for
March 23, 1995.
Noted that Commissioner Lunn, absent from this meeting,
had asked her to forward information that the convenience
store at Newport and Sycamore still has debris in front
of it and asked staff to investigate.
Staff will follow up.
Commissioner Baker
Inquired about the buildings at Nisson and Browning which
the City owns.
Staff stated that one property has been sold and is under
renovation.
Reported that he had attended the Trends 2000 exposition
at the Anaheim Marriott today and was pleased with the
exhibit of Orange County. He also wished everyone a
Happy Valentines Day.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded, to adjourn the meeting
at 8:57 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission is
on February 27, 1995 with an East Tustin Specific Plan Amendments
Workshop, 5:30 p.m. and subsequently adjourning to the regular
meeting of the Planning Commission at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council
Chambers at 300 Centennial Way, Tustin.
~. A. ~J. ~aker/
Chairperson
Recording Secretary