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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 22, 1993
CALL TO ORDER:
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL:
Present: Weil, Baker,
Stracker
Absent: None
Butler, Kasalek and
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1. Minutes of the November 8, 1993 Planninq Commission meetinq.
Commissioner Baker moved, Stracker seconded to approve the Consent
Calendar with the following change to the minutes:
Page 1, move Commissioner Weil's and Commissioner Baker's comments
after the voting for the new chairperson.
Motion carried 5-0.
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2. Continued Public Hearinq City of Tustin General Plan revision
APPLICANT:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
CITY OF TUSTIN
300 CENTENNIAL WAY
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA
92680
DRAFT PROGRAM ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT (SCH NO.
92101104) -REVIEW PERIOD CLOSED
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November 22, 1993
Page 2
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
open the public hearing on the proposed Draft General Plan. After
testimony, close the public hearing and continue action on the
General Plan until December 13, 1993.
The Commission was missing a page from the General Plan report so
this item was skipped until after Item #3.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:19 p.m.
Jack Mallinckrodt representing Foothill Communities Association
(FCA) submitted written remarks regarding the revised language of
the General Plan prepared by city staff. Mr. Mallinckrodt praised
the staff for resolving and incorporating many of FCA's concerns,
however, he expressed concern with three outstanding issues FCA
wanted changed in the General Plan: 1) Tustin's commitment to a
new lower-density zoning designation for North Tustin; 2) Defined
objective standards of compatibility; and 3) Incorporation of
North Tustin Specific Plan into the Tustin General Plan.
Neil Harkleroad representing FCA requested that the Commission and
staff continue to examine the three issues identified by FCA and
incorporate into the General Plan before it is adopted.
Jim Brooks representing the North Tustin Communities Association
(NTCA) requested additional time to review staff comments in more
detail, however, he was comfortable with the changes recommended by
staff.
The revised language recognized the unique character of North
Tustin; and he requested continued dialogue between North Tustin
and the City of Tustin especially regarding Traffic and Circulation
issues that might affect North Tustin; Jamboree Road and Irvine
Blvd development; and MCAS Base Reuse Planning efforts.
Commissioner Kasalek asked why pre-zoning was being recommended at
this time.
Commissioner Weil recommended maintaining the language in Goal 12
and Policy 12.3 as provided by staff, but eliminating Policies
12.1, 12.2 and 12.4. She felt it was premature to plan policies
for North Tustin and that no definative information was available
to support these policies. She also felt that recreational
opportunities were a North Tustin and County issue and the City of
Tustin shouldn't be involved.
Commissioner Baker recommended keeping policy 12.1.
Commissioner Butler recommended changing the language in Goal 12
"Attempt to" maintain...
Commissioner Stracker stated this was Tustin's General Plan and
questioned why we have North Tustin Goals and Policies in our
document.
There followed discussion regarding the pre-zoning process as part
of an annexation request. It was recommended that the following
statement be added to the Introduction Statement "Effective upon
the annexation of North Tustin, specific policies, goals and
discussions in the General Plan will apply."
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:30 p.m.
Planning Commission Minutes
November 22, 1993
Page 3
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Butler seconded to close the public
hearing and continue action on the General Plan until December 13,
1993. Responses identified in Exhibit A to be revised as follows:
- Response A.4 - Delete third bullet;
- Response A.10: Change to read: "...paid for by the
residents or property owners of the annexed area."
- Response A.11: Change to read: "...low-density
character..."
- Response A.17: change Policy 12.1: Ensure that any
infill development in North Tustin is compatible and
complimentary to the North Tustin existing community.
Policy 12.2: Review and consider the possible
development and adoption of prezoning designation for the
North Tustin unincorporated area as part of any
annexation proposal. Policy 12.4: Delete.
- Response A.26: delete "specifically".
- Response A.27: 1st bullet: Change to: "The community
profile area is "one" of the units of analysis. Under
Planning Area Not Within Sphere of Influence correct
spelling of Edinger Avenue and change right-of-needs to
right-of-way.
- Response B.2: Add: "In the event of annexation"
significant infrastructure deficiencies, where they
exist, shall be mitigated "to the extent feasible"
Motion carried 5-0.
3. Zone Chanqe 93-002
APPLICANT
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CALIFORNIA PACIFIC HOMES
5 CIVIC PLAZA, SUITE 100
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
ATTENTION: JON W. ROBERTSON
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
PLANNED COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN.
AMENDMENT TO THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN TO
INCREASE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF OPEN
TRELLIS AND BEAM CONSTRUCTIONS IN SIDE YARDS FROM
SEVEN AND ONE HALF (7~) FEET TO TWELVE (12) FEET,
AND TO PROVIDE UPDATED STREET NAMES IN SECTION
3.5.G OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
Recommendation- It is recommended that the Planning Commission take
the following actions:
Approve the environmental determination by adopting Resolution
No. 3206 and;
o
Recommend to the City Council approval of Zone Change 93-002
by adopting Resolution No. 3207, as submitted or revised.
Commissioner Kasalek asked for clarification of open trellis and
beam construction.
Staff replied that it was defined in the East Tustin Specific Plan.
Commissioner Stracker asked why the limit of seven and one-half
feet was originally required in the ordinance; and asked what the
estate requirement was.
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November 22, 1993
Page 4
Staff replied that it was based on conventionally sized side yards
and doors which are now larger and taller; and that they are only
limited by the height of the building in the estate district.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:06 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:07 p.m.
Commissioner Butler commented that it might expose more wood
requiring painting; and that it should have been allowed to be
higher in the first place.
Commissioner Stracker asked if 12 feet was to the top of the beam.
Staff affirmed that it would allow flexibility for door height and
was consistent with the height of detached accessory structures.
Commissioner Baker moved,
environmental determination
Motion carried 5-0.
Stracker seconded to approve the
by adopting Resolution No. 3206.
Commissioner Baker moved, Butler seconded to recommend to the City
Council approval of Zone Change 93-002 by adopting Resolution No.
3207, as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
4. First Amendment to Conditional Use Permit 91-029, Desiqn
Review 91-026, and Variance 91-018
APPLICANT/
PROPERTY OWNER
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MR. REED CHESWORTH on behalf of
MR. JOE MACPHERSON
23 AUTO CENTER DRIVE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
36 AUTO CENTER DRIVE
PLANNED COMMUNITY-COMMERCIAL (PC-C) DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY-
CERTIFIED EIR (84-2). NO ADDITIONAL
DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
TO AUTHORIZE THE PHASED CONSTRUCTION OF THE
PROPOSED DEALERSHIP AND AUTO BODY SHOP
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the request was denied, would the
land be maintained as is.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Stracker asked what permits had been issued.
Staff replied that no building permits had been issued nor had
plans been submitted for plan check; rough grading approval has
been received by the applicant and rough grading has been completed
in conjunction with the installation of the monument signs; precise
grading permit has been issued and landscaping plans are approved,
but not issued.
Commissioner Kasalek asked who the letter of October 15 was from,
as page 2 was missing.
Staff replied that it was from Reed Chesworth on behalf of the
applicant.
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:39 p.m.
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November 22, 1993
Page 5
Commissioner Butler stated that he was concerned with security for
automobiles; asked if MacPherson had two accessways; who the owners
of the Dodge and Lincoln Mercury dealerships were; that new cars
would be Toyotas.
Mr. Reed Chesworth, on behalf of the applicant, replied that Duffy
James owns Lincoln Mercury, Holmes Tuttle owns Dodge; and that all
dealers asked MacPherson to proceed; that there are not enough
spaces for employee parking; that EPA laws will impact car and van
pooling; that they have constructed a 10 foot wall for security
along with 24 hour security in auto center; that the number and
type of vehicles to be stored unknown at this time; MacPherson
controls 40% of auto center; that they plan to landscape and
install lighting and use the front half for employee parking; and
that removal of parked cars will improve visibility.
Commissioner Butler asked if there was any discussion with Mr.
MacPherson as to time frame for construction; and if the dealership
was never constructed, would they be in violation of district or
city regulations.
Mr. Chesworth stated that it was not possible to give a timetable
at this point due to economics, but they desire to finish the
phases; that they are preplumbing the sites for future use; that
they were prepared to pour the pads one and one-half months ago,
but were delayed due to decision to install utilities.
Staff replied that it would be a city land use violation; that a
parking lot is not a permitted use; and that vehicle displays
without a primary use of a dealer facility is not an allowed use in
the auto center.
Commissioner Weil asked if staff would come back with a resolution
in a phased program.
Staff replied that it would be one option,
Commission's direction.
based upon the
Commissioner Baker asked if they were strictly intending a parking
facility.
Mr. Chesworth replied that they intend to install display/parking
stalls; that there are two pieces to the lot, the front for
display, and the rear for storage; that it allows them to improve
their volume by having vehicles on premises; that they will use the
pads temporarily for employee parking; that page two, Condition 1.4
indicates the use permit will become null and void after 18 months;
and that they want to work together to make their's the best auto
center.
Commissioner Stracker commented that they agreed to have a building
constructed within two years.
Mr. Chesworth replied that they thought it would be three to five
years depending upon the economy.
Lois Bobak, City Attorney, commented that Condition 1.4 was part of
the original condition and not part of this evening's application.
Commissioner Butler agreed with the project, but was concerned that
they will be in violation of district regulations; that they are
not likely to walk away from the cost they will be incurring; and
asked if any other parcels were to be developed in the center.
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Staff replied that one site behind Nissan and one by Pontiac were
available; that the district regulations cannot be amended as part
of this process; that it would require a specific zone change
through the Public Hearing process; that through amendment of this
CUP, the Commission can impose new conditions specifying details of
performance and time; that staff suggested a sunset clause; that
they are concerned that they will not get another dealership at
that location; and that they have not seen this type of phased
development before.
Commissioner Baker asked if there was any feedback from the
Association and if they were aware of the application.
Staff replied that there was no feedback and that they were aware.
Commissioner Weil stated that the problem is unique to the area;
that the economy was better when the auto center was started.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:59 p.m.
Commissioner Butler suggested a five year time frame for review
with a revokable CUP; and was concerned with parking enforcement.
Commissioner Baker agreed and commented that street parking is
taking up space; and hoped that this would not make other dealers
feel that there is favoritism; is sympathetic to the applicant and
leans toward approval with an expiration date of perhaps 36 months.
Staff replied that the permits have not expired.
Lois Bobak stated that it depends on the structure; that a review
process should have shorter time of perhaps 3 years and a sunset
provision might require 5 years; that if the building permits are
not pulled, the CUP expires and improvements must be removed within
a certain period of time; that at some point it is important that
there be provision for a final date in case it becomes obvious that
there will be no dealership.
Commissioner Baker asked what the alternatives were if the
applicant does not finish building within the timeframe.
Staff replied that it would return to a vacant lot.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if another dealership could build on the
improvements instead of removing the improvements; that the expense
of laying of concrete and utilities shows a commitment to build;
and would like to see approval with review in three years.
Lois Bobak replied that at conclusion of three years, they could
review for extension, then establish a sunset provision.
Commissioner Stracker stated that it is an eyesore to area now, but
prefers a 24 month limit; and suggested the possibility of
utilizing the parking for public use.
Commissioner Weil asked for a consensus for a 2 year extension:
Motion failed 1-4 (Stracker in favor); 3 year extension: Motion
carried 4-1 (Stracker opposed).
Staff suggested that a bond be required for removal of the
improvements, if necessary.
Commissioner Baker stated that a bond would be in excess at this
time.
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November 22, 1993
Page 7
Lois Bobak asked if conditions should be included regarding details
of installing facilities by phase.
Commissioner Butler asked if wording could be included regarding
not parking on building pads.
Staff replied that wording exists to chain link around the pads.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Stracker seconded to authorize the
phased construction of the proposed dealership and auto body shop
with a review of progress after three years. Motion carried 5-0.
Staff will be re
OLD BUSINESS:
5. Status Reports
Commissioner Kasalek asked the status of Black Angus improvements.
Staff replied that it is progressing.
Commissioner Baker asked about traffic control at Home Depot.
Staff replied that traffic control would be implemented with the
Christmas tree lot with blockades.
Received and filed.
6. Extension of Deferral of Enforcement of Sign Abandonment
APPLICANT:
OWNER
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
JERRY CLARKE
J.F.C. DESIGN GROUP, INC.
20331 IRVINE AVENUE, SUITE 7
SANTA ANA HEIGHTS, CA 92707
EDGAR E. PANKEY
320 WEST MAIN STREET
TUSTIN, CA 92680
13922 RED HILL AVENUE
C-2 (CENTRAL COMMERCIAL)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 21) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15321 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
TO RECONSIDER THE EXTENSION REQUEST TO DEFER
ENFORCEMENT OF SIGN ABANDONMENT AT 13922 RED HILL
AVENUE
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Commission.
Commissioner Weil asked the status of the soil remediation; and how
long until the site will be usable.
Staff replied that the remediation has begun; and that it is moving
ahead and will not be a problem for reuse.
Jerry Clarke, applicant, asked for an extension of time; that reuse
of the sign poles is an important part of the application; and
stated that he is working with staff.
Commissioner Weil
status.
asked if he was aware of the non-conforming
Mr. Clarke affirmed.
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November 22, 1993
Page 8
Commissioner Butler asked how much time the applicant needed.
Mr. Clarke replied that they need until early December if they have
answered all staff concerns; that they received a report from
Chevron indicating that they are moving in a positive direction;
and that they have modified the equipment for the next stage of
soil remediation.
Staff emphasized that the height of the pole sign and the dual
poles might not be approved.
Mr. Clarke replied that they have applied the square footage
provisions of the Sign Code; and would like to retain the height.
Commissioner Kasalek asked the status of the sign if the Commission
denies the extension and they continue on with CUP.
Staff replied that the applicant would have the right to apply for
a pole sign.
Lois Bobak stated that staff has no vested interest in pursuing
sign removal if applicant is moving forward; that if the Commission
does not approve the extension, staff would use discretion; the
Commission would be giving staff a clear direction on the course of
action if the application process begins to stall.
Edqar Pankey, property owner, 320 W. Main Street, Tustin, gave a
history of the area; stated that he told Chevron that they should
leave the pylons and clean up the property; that it began in 1990;
that some property was taken for freeway widening; that they were
affected by the Red Hill Avenue closure; that he never intended to
abandon the pylons; that he is pleased with the contamination
report and provided a monitoring report to staff.
Mr. Clarke stated that they are not asking for a definite time
extension; that if denied, then appropriate action should be taken.
Commissioner Baker stated that if they are moving forward, he would
approve retaining the poles; and asked how long the CUP would take.
Staff replied that they received the CUP application today, and
anticipated 7-8 weeks before it would be ready for the Commission.
Commissioner Weil asked if a
appropriate.
six-week extension would be
Staff replied that it would be more prudent to follow the City
Attorney's advice.
Commissioner Stracker suggested tabling the matter until the first
meeting in February.
Lois Bobak agreed, but commented that it would still have to be
brought back for a determination.
Commissioner Stracker moved, Kasalek seconded to table the item
until the February 14, 1994 Planning Commission meeting. Motion
carried 5-0.
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November 22, 1993
Page 9
NEW BUSINESS:
7. Use Determination 93-004
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CB COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE GROUP, INC.
P.O. BOX 30830
LAGUNA HILLS, CA 92654-0830
ATTN: MR. RICHARD WALT
13852 RED HILL AVENUE
100 C-1 10,000 (RETAIL COMMERCIAL)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA EQUALITY ACT (CECA)
TO DETERMINE THAT A MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO IS A
PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE C-1 (RETAIL COMMERCIAL)
DISTRICT
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Commission.
Commissioner Butler asked if Option 2 would set a precedent.
Staff replied that Option 1 would apply to all C-1 properties; that
if subject to a CUP, it could be evaluated to determine appropri-
ateness; that anyone can apply for a CUP, but it was up to the
Commission to approve or deny.
Commissioner Baker stated that there are no historical problems,
but preferred to see this use with a CUP.
Commissioner Stracker commented that he has spoken with Mr. Pankey
regarding this; and asked where the C-1 properties were located.
Staff replied that most commercial centers along Red Hill and
Newport were C-I, but was spread throughout the City; and that Mr.
Pankey's property and Alpha Beta center were C-1.
Commissioner Baker inquired about the Palm Reader application.
Staff replied that that area was zoned CG and they wanted C-1.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if a martial arts studio was located in
the center behind Angie's Restaurant; and did not feel martial arts
was offensive and should be a permitted use.
Staff was not familiar with one in that location, but that there
was a studio located across from Spoons.
Commissioner Butler stated that it should be approved for this
location; asked what C-1 property it would be inappropriate for;
and asked the parking differential.
Staff replied that retail use requires 1 space for 200 square feet;
C-1 and C-2 apply the same rate.
Commissioner Weil asked if there was a way around other similar
uses requiring a CUP.
Staff replied that it would be reasonable to consider it a general
service business.
Commissioner Stracker suggested that uses be considered with the
Zoning Code Review.
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November 22, 1993
Page 10
Staff commented that it will be reviewed with the Zoning Code
update program for reclassification.
Commissioner Weil asked if this was permitted in C-2 and CG.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Stracker asked if there was a problem going from more
restrictive to less restrictive.
Lois Bobak confirmed that there is not a problem.
Commissioner Butler moved, Kasalek seconded to determine that a
martial arts studio is a permitted use within the C-1 (Retail
Commercial) District. Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner Baker
opposed).
STAFF CONCERNS:
8. Report on actions taken at November 15, 1993 City Council
meetinq
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Butler
-Suggested that the City Council attend the next Planning
Commission meeting on the General Plan and EIR.
-Visited the new Micro Center store and found it to be a
"super" store. Commended Micro Center on a job well done.
Indicated good tax revenue to the city.
Commissioner Baker
-Attended a meeting at the Chamber of Commerce and talked to
Lou Bone's wife about a Senate Bill. Asked staff to obtain
more information about the Bill.
-Asked about a retaining wall at the patio homes development
on Bryan Avenue and how it compares to other retaining walls.
Commissioner Stracker
-Visited the new K-Mart store and was impressed. The store
was very well-stocked.
Commissioner Kasalek
-Noted that the fence around the Longs' store in the Tustin
Heights center was in disrepair and that the entrance to the
building was open.
-Noted that the billboard on Nisson Avenue had been
graffitied.
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November 22, 1993
Page 11
ADJO~:
Commissioner Baker moved, Weil seconded to adjourn the meeting at
9:55 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on December
13, 1993 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers at 300
Centennial Way, Tustin.
Kathy Weil
Chairperson
Kathleen
Secretary