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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 24, 1993
CALL TO ORDER: 7:05 p.m., Tustin Senior Center
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Kasalek, Baker, Butler, Stracker and
Weil
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1. Minutes of the May 10, 1993 Planninq Commission meetinq.
Commissioner Weil moved, Stracker seconded to approve the minutes
from the May 10, 1993 Planning Commission meeting. Motion carried
3-0. Commissioner Kasalek abstained from minutes portion, only.
Commissioner Butler was absent at this point.
2. Final Tract Map 14366
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
A-M/GREYSTONE HOMES
7 UPPER NEWPORT PLAZA
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
A PORTION OF VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 14366
(LOTS 6 AND J OF TRACT 13627)
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN: MEDIUM DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL
THIS PROJECT IS CONSIDERED MINISTERIALLY EXEMPT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15268(b) OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 48 NUMBERED LOTS AND FOUR
(4) LETTERED LOTS TO ACCOMMODATE 48 SINGLE FAMILY
DWELLING UNITS
Planning Commission Minutes
May 24, 1993
Page 2
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 3143 recommending approval to the City Council
of Final Tract Map 14366, as submitted or revised.
Commissioner Weil moved, Stracker seconded to adopt Resolution No.
3143 recommending approval to the City Council of Final Tract Map
14366 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
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3. Conditional Use Permit 93-013
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MR. SAX ENDO
CHEVRON AGENT
CHEVRON U.S.A. PRODUCTS INC.
P.O. BOX 2267
LA HABRA, CA 90631
CHEVRON U.S.A. PRODUCTS INC.
P.O. BOX 2833
LA HABRA, CA 90632
14122 NEWPORT AVENUE
RETAIL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT (C-l)
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREPARED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
TO AUTHORIZE THE INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF TWO
SELF-CONTAINED MOBILE UNITS TO EXTRACT AND TREAT
CONTAMINATED VAPORS FROM THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
14122 NEWPORT AVENUE FOR 12 TO 24 MONTHS.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 3141, certifying the Final Negative
Declaration as adequate for the project; and 2. Adopt Resolution
No. 3142, approving Conditional Use Permit 93-013, subject to
conditions contained in Exhibit A, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:09 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:10 p.m.
Commissioner Weil moved, Baker seconded to continue the item until
the next meeting per the applicant's request. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Conditional Use Permit 93-016 and Variance 93-003
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
SILICON SYSTEMS S.S.I. PROPERTIES
14511 MYFORD ROAD ASSOC. 6511 CAMINO DEL REY
14351 MYFORD ROAD BONSALL, CA 92003
TUSTIN, CA. 92705
14511 MYFORD ROAD 14531 MYFORD ROAD
PLANNED COMMUNITY - INDUSTRIAL (PC-I)
IRVINE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 93-016 AND VARIANCE 93-003
HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT
Planning Commission Minutes
May 24, 1993
Page 3
REQUEST:
(CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AUTHORIZATION OF THE
FOLLOWING:
1. A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
TEMPORARY USE PERMIT EXTENSION FOR A TEMPORARY
TRAILER AT AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY, LOCATED AT
14511 MYFORD ROAD.
2. A VARIANCE FROM SECTION V.B.4 OF THE IRVINE
INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX PLANNED COMMUNITY DISTRICT
REGULATION TO ALLOW A STORAGE ROOF TO ENCROACH
FOUR FEET INTO A REQUIRED SIDEYARD SETBACK
INSTEAD OF THE PERMITTED THREE FOOT
ENCROACHMENT AUTHORIZED AT THE INDUSTRIAL
FACILITY LOCATED AT 14351 MYFORD ROAD.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following actions: 1. Approve Conditional Use Permit 93-
016 by adopting Resolution No. 3139, subject to the conditions
contained in Exhibit A as submitted or revised; and 2. Approve
Variance 93-003 by adopting Resolution No. 3140 subject to the
conditions contained in Exhibit A as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Weil requested clarification of Condition 1.5 of
Exhibit A pertaining to request for increased parking.
Staff replied that there may be a time when there are no tenant
improvements where the space would be available for occupancy and
could require additional parking; that all projects are required to
provide a parking summary based on existing square footage of
proposed and existing improvements as part of every tenant
improvement plan.
Commissioner Weil suggested that it would look better if the
requirement was removed; and inquired about the concrete fence.
Staff replied that the fence was installed as a fence for screening
of a storage area and was required to be a minimum of eight feet
high.
Commissioner Stracker asked for clarification of the water run-off
from the roof; if they are required to have an NPDES permit; and
was concerned about the possible run-off of acid into the storm
drain which is a direct violation of the law.
Staff replied that the roof overhang would allow better drainage at
the site; that they are required to have all permits and licensing;
that now that the location is technically enclosed, it may change
what is allowed to be stored.
Commissioner Weil commented that the company underwent extensive
scrutiny with their remodeling.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:15 p.m.
Ron Moyer, Director of Facilities at Silicon Systems, stated that
they are attempting to meet the Fire Code requirements; that the
Fire Department requires a roof over the enclosure where the 55-
gallon drums are stored; that their process may leave a residual
amount of acid on top of the container which could wash off into
the storm drain in event of rain if the roof is not overhead; that
the Code requires that any work done on hazardous materials must
have a roof overhead.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 24, 1993
Page 4
Commissioner Stracker asked if they were pursuing NPDES (National
Pollutant Discharge Elimination System) permits.
Mr. Moyer replied that it would fall under their Employee Health
and Safety Department.
Commissioner Butler asked how long the tenant improvements were
intended to take.
Mr. Moyer replied that he was unsure of how long the improvements
might take since they are still expanding; he commented that last
year's sales were $240 million, next year's were expected to be
$360 million, and there are 100 open positions.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:20 p.m.
Commissioner Baker moved, Butler seconded to approve Conditional
Use Permit 93-016 by adopting Resolution No. 3139, subject to the
conditions contained in Exhibit A as submitted. Motion carried 4-
0. Commissioner Kasalek abstained.
Commissioner Baker moved, Butler seconded to approve Variance 93-
003 by adopting Resolution No. 3140 subject to the conditions
contained in Exhibit A as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Kasalek abstained.
OLD BUSINESS:
5. Status Reports
Commissioner Weil asked the status of 1991 projects.
Staff replied that they may not have receive a resubmittal from the
applicant; that they clean out the listing approximately every
three months; that some items have specific expiration dates; and
some are still under construction.
Commissioner Weil moved, Butler seconded to receive and file.
Motion carried 5-0.
NEW BUSINESS:
o
Fire Retardant Wood Shake and Shinqle Roofinq Materials
Adoption of Updated Edition of Uniform Fire Code
Staff introduced Rick Brown, the City Building Official as staff
member for questions.
Commissioner Weil commented that she had UL testing criteria
information regarding fire retardant roofs to provide to staff.
Staff replied that he had received that information; that the
current ordinance requires that all residential property require a
minimum of a Class C rating for all new roofs, excepting the
hillside area which requires Class A.
Commissioner Weil stated that the report seemed to weakly define
the difference between class ratings; that there is an enormous
difference between C and B ratings.
Staff noted that the State encourages cities to stay within a three
year adoptive cycle for amendments; that the City's requirements
are more restrictive than the California Building Code.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 24, 1993
Page 5
Commissioner Weil requested a tickler file be created to provide
the City Council with expanded information; noted that all of
Anaheim requires Class A roofs; explained a difference between the
rating system; that the lots in the City are not big enough for
brush clearance to be effective; that with a Santa Ana wind
condition, Class C roofs would allow 900 homes to be burned in a
couple of hours, as in Anaheim and La Posada Apartment fires.
Commissioner Butler suggested that the tickler file indicate the
cost difference between a Class C and B roof; and asked how the
Building Official determined the class rating of a roof being
installed.
Staff replied that each bundle of tiles or shingles is identified
with the fire resistive classification, manufacturer, and material.
Commissioner Butler indicated that cost and aesthetic values are
important to some homeowners.
Commissioner Weil stated that the services that clean and treat
shake shingles are a "rip-off" and that some wood shingles are
pressure treated at the factory with a Class B rating.
Staff commented that each product type has to meet the suitability
and durability standards in addition to fire resistance.
Commissioner Baker inquired about metal roofing material on top of
shake shingles.
Staff replied that that process is currently allowed with a
fiberglass batting between the metal and shingles; that the product
is approved by the International Conference of Building Officials
evaluation service as an approved method, but the air space between
the old and new roofs gets overheated by an interior fire and
creates a difficult to fire to fight; that he has since withdrawn
the approval of that report upon the recommendation of the Fire
Marshall; that based on concurrence with the Fire Department they
have allowed this product with installation of the solid fiberglass
insulation which eliminates the air void; that the product is
effective against exterior fires.
Commissioner Weil commented that the heat could build up enough
without the fiberglass batting to cause spontaneous combustion of
the shake roof; and asked if an additional inspection was required
for a metal roof.
Staff replied that the insulation and runners can be installed
prior to their first inspection and verified without additional
inspection costs for the City; that they are taking a proactive
approach with roofing contractors by informing them of the
requirements.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if spark arresters are required on
existing roofs; that perhaps an incentive program would be
effective to assist people with installation; and that upon sale of
a home it might be required.
Staff replied that it has been in effect for the past three years
for new construction, not as a retrofit ordinance.
Commissioner Butler asked for clarification of the fire sprinkler
ordinance.
Staff replied that the ordinance presented to the City Council
contained the standard language of the 1988 version of the Fire
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May 24, 1993
Page 6
Code with optional wordings of 1) residential fire sprinklers
required in homes of 3,600 square footage or greater; or 2) were
more than five minutes from the first responding station, or more
than 2 1/2 miles from the first responding station; or 3) require
fire sprinklers in all new residential construction; that at the
June 7 meeting the Building Official and Fire Department will
dispute some of facts presented by the building industry; that the
Council has supported the requirement of sprinklers in homes of
3,600 square feet or greater; that the number was based on the fire
department's ability to fight a fire of a certain size.
Commissioner Butler asked for a clarification of the cost factor
involved.
Commissioner Weil asked if it could be made optional, since it
would be much less expensive to install it while the home is being
built, rather than afterwards.
Staff replied that it would cost approximately $4,000 for a 3,600
square foot home; that it was discussed, but that none of the
builders offer it as an option; that it would cost 4-5 times the
price to retrofit; but that the purchaser would have to buy early
in the construction process to have it installed while the rough
plumbing was being installed. He continued with noting that his
office currently maintains a library of building materials
reference directories and technical journals; that a separate
legislation file is monitored; and that he will comply with any
additional direction from the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Weil stated that she was uncomfortable with the lack
of information regarding the difference in classification of
roofing materials.
Staff commented that the building industry is supportive of
increased roofing requirements rather than sprinkler requirements.
Commissioner Weil commented that from a community point of view, a
Class A or B roof will save a community before a sprinkler system
would, even though a sprinkler would save a house faster.
Staff commented that
sprinklers have saved
maintaining the fires.
other communities that have required
fire department costs due to houses
Commissioner Kasalek stated that education is the key.
Commissioner Weil moved, Baker seconded to receive and file.
Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
7. Report on actions taken at May 17, 1993 City Council meeting
Staff inquired if the Commission had any questions on the City
Council Agenda.
Commissioner Stracker would like a copy of the Council report
pertaining to the Sports Park.
8. Update on Urban Rail
Staff reported on the project status.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 24, 1993
Page 7
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Butler
-Thanked Commissioner Weil for the additional information she
provided on the roofing issue.
-Inquired if the soil remediation project that was continued
from the meeting had signed a graffiti release form. Also
inquired as to the property owner's intention for use of the
site after completion of soil remediation.
Staff indicated that those concerns will be addressed in the
report when the item is brought back to the Commission at the
next meeting.
Commissioner Baker
-Indicated that he was concerned that the soil contamination
of the Chevron project would affect the well on Mitchell
Avenue.
Staff indicated that, again, this concern would be addressed
in the report at the next Commission meeting.
-Inquired about the status of the cactus wren issue in East
Tustin.
Staff indicated that Daniel Fox, Senior Planner was part of a
committee on the subject and a status report would be provided
to the Commission at a future meeting.
Commissioner Weil
-Informed staff that she was impressed with the work of All-
American Asphalt who is doing street resurfacing in her
neighborhood.
-Informed staff and the Commission about her taking part in a
quarterly tour of the IRWD facility. She indicated that the
tour was very interesting and highly recommended it to anyone
who is interested.
Commissioner Stracker
-Inquired about why the continued Chevron project was using
the form of soil remediation that they chose?
Staff indicated that would be a question for the applicant
when the item comes back to the Commission.
-Asked when the Tustin Garage moved.
Staff indicated that the Tustin Garage had moved approximately
three weeks ago. Staff also indicated that an inspection of
the site is forthcoming.
-Requested a report from staff about NPDES.
Commissioner Kasalek
-Asked about the procedure of the street sweeper. Asked if a
resident can request that the sweeper redo an area.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 24, 1993
Page 8
Staff from the Public Works Department indicated that they
would check with Field Services about the sweeper's routine.
-Inquired about the City's regulations for leaf blowers.
Staff indicated that they were allowed by a Council decision.
Any problems that have arisen with leaf blowers have generally
been handled by contacting the property manager.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Weil moved, Butler seconded to adjourn the meeting at
8:13 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on June 14,
1993 at 7:00 p.m. at the Tustin Senior Center, 200 S. "C" Street,
Tustin.
Ma~j'o%ie/~asalek~] -~-'
Chairpef~/on
Kathleen Clancy
Secretary