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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 14t 1992
CALL TO ORDER:
7:02 p.m., Tustin Senior Center
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Baker, Le Jeune, Kasalek, and Weil
Kasparian
SEATING OF NEW COMMISSIONERS: Director of
Department
Commissioners
Stracker
Community Development
swore in new
Butler, Kasalek and
Commissioner Le Jeune commented on his pleasure of serving on the
Planning Commission and complimented staff on their
professionalism.
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1. Minutes of the August 24, 1992 Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to approve the Consent
Calendar with the minutes revised as follows:
Page 8, Item 9., second paragraph should read: "Planning
Commission unanimously decided to recommend to City Council
limitation of commission terms to six years (three 2-year terms)
with reappointment possible after a period of two years.
Motion carried 3-0. Commissioners Butler and Stracker abstained.
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September 14, 1992
Page 2
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. Conditional Use Permit 92-030 and Design Review 92-038
APPLICANT
OWNER:
STEPHEN D. PAQUETTE
10542 GREENBRIER ROAD
SANTA ANA, CA 92705
NORMAN FRITZ
15734 NEWTON STREET
HACIENDA HEIGHTS, CA 91745
LOCATION: 135 SOUTH PROSPECT AVENUE
ZONING: FIRST STREET SPECIFIC PLAN - COMMERCIAL AS A
PRIMARY USE
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
1. AUTHORIZATION TO EXPAND THE TIRE AND BRAKE
REPAIR SERVICE USE OF THE PROPERTY BY
CONSTRUCTING NEW SERVICE BAYS; AND,
2. APPROVAL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE
PROPOSED NEW BUILDING AND THE SITE PLAN FOR
MODIFICATION OF THE PARKING LOT.
Recommendation -It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 92-030, modifying Conditional Use
Permit 91-010, and recommend to the Redevelopment Agency approval
of Design Review 92-038 by adopting Resolution No. 3080, as
submitted or revised.
Presentation: Anne Bonner, Associate Planner
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:10 p.m.
Stephen Paquette, applicant, stated that the proposed new building
will enhance the corner of First Street and Prospect and be more
cohesive with the other buildings.
Commissioner Baker asked if the applicant would be expecting much
additional traffic.
Commissioner Stracker asked if the applicant used residential
streets for test driving vehicles.
Commissioner Weil asked for a clarification
replacement; and if he agreed to the conditions.
of minor part
Mr. Paquette replied that he now averages 17 cars per day and does
not expect a significant increase; that they drive the vehicles on
First Street, Centennial, Main and back to the tire center along
Prospect; that he changes tires, oil changes and brakes, some
alternators, etc., but not engines or transmissions; and affirmed
that he agreed to the conditions.
Greg Bennett, Donley-Bennett Architects, stated that the parking is
in compliance; that they will be well below 100 trips per day; that
the enhanced parking will allow more flexibility for loading and
unloading.
Henry Kumagai, owner of adjacent Car Wash, stated that he was
concerned with the parking between the two tire service buildings;
and that the driveway should be kept clear.
Staff replied that the area between buildings are required fire
lanes which will be posted.
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September 14, 1992
Page 3
Commissioner Baker asked if there was a problem with parking in the
12 foot area next to the proposed building.
Staff replied negatively.
Mr. Bennett stated that the building has been moved back to allow
for ease of circulation.
Commissioner Stracker asked if the parking lot standard remains in
effect with the irrevocable offer to dedicate.
Staff affirmed and clarified that the dimensions are adequate.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:23 p.m.
Commissioner Kasalek commended the applicant on his efforts to
improve the project.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to approve Conditional
Use Permit 92-030, modifying Conditional Use Permit 91-010, and
recommend to the Redevelopment Agency approval of Design Review 92-
038 by adopting Resolution No. 3080 revised as follows:
Page 2, Add item 3.4 to read: "Red curbing and no-parking signage
shall be installed in front of the length of the two service bay
buildings."
Motion carried 5-0.
3. Conditional Use Permit 92-027
APPLICANTS:
LAND OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MR. THOMAS J. TOWLE
13 WEEPINGWOOD
IRVINE, CA 92714
FIRST SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH OF TUSTIN
13841 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
13841 RED HILL AVENUE
PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL (P&I) DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 11) PURSUANT TO
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15311 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
AUTHORIZATION THE INSTALLATION OF A 32-SQUARE FOOT
MONUMENT SIGN, WHICH IS 5'-6" IN HEIGHT, IN THE
PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL (P&I) DISTRICT
Recommendation-It is recommended that the Planning Commission
Adopt Resolution No. 3087 approving Conditional Use Permit 92-027,
as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Joann Perry, Associate Planner
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:32 p.m.
Larry Lettow, 189 N. Cobblestone Drive, Orange, church member
representing Tom Towle, stated that the auditorium size had been
reduced.
Commissioner Weil asked how many spaces would be required if
project approved.
Commissioner Stracker asked about the vehicles parked in the lot to
the south and if there was an agreement between the church and U-
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September 14, 1992
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Haul and the car wash; and noted that the alley had extensive
damage and asked who was responsible.
Mr. Lettow replied that they are required to have 201 spaces; and
that most of the vehicles in the south parking area belong to
apartment tenants.
The Director responded that the alley is city-owned; noted that the
southern area of the City is targeted for street and alley
improvements when funding is available; and that improvements are
made as funding is made available from Community Development Block
Grant funds.
Commissioner Butler asked how often parking is exceeded.
Mr. Lettow replied that there have only been 2-3 occasions since
1973 when they have filled the lot to capacity.
Don Saltarelli, adjacent property owner, agreed with the
applicant's proposal; stated that he is a good neighbor; and that
he is still welcome to utilize the real estate office parking lot
without an agreement.
Commissioner Baker asked if two access points would remain.
Staff replied that there would still be the same amount of access
points, but the new one on Red Hill is more accessible.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:37 p.m.
Commissioner Stracker stated that the Commission might look into
bonding for funds for alley improvements.
The Director responded that the Public Improvement Ordinance
requires such bonding in conjunction with the building permit; off-
site improvements by the Public Works Department would not trigger
the requirement for bonding; and that the Commission has discretion
to impose conditions on the matter.
The Public Hearing was re-opened at 7:40 p.m.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if much alley traffic was expected.
Mr. Lettow replied that most of the traffic is due to the
apartments, car wash and U-Haul; that it is used on Sundays by the
church, but closing the gate should reduce church traffic.
Staff noted that the alleyway is also a rear emergency access for
the high school and other users.
Commissioner Baker asked if staff had a timeframe for improvements.
The Director responded that the City's projects are ranked through-
out the County for the Community Development Block Grant Program;
that last year's allotment was less than $80,000; and that the City
may become an entitlement city in fiscal year 1993-94 with a
population of greater than 50,000.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:42 p.m.
Commissioner Baker suggested having further discussions regarding
bonding for alleyway improvement; and noted that now 200 cars will
be exiting onto Red Hill from the church.
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Commissioner Kasalek noted that there are currently only 100 cars
and that they do not leave at the same time.
Commissioner Butler stated that there are still 3 accesses; and
asked if the old curb would have obvious notification and suggested
more landscaping to cover the old curb area.
Staff replied that the church will continue the landscaping to make
it apparent that it is no longer an access point; and noted that
Sunday has the least amount of traffic on Red Hill.
Commissioner Weil suggested that the church be given the option to
require right-hand turning if a problem arises.
Commissioner Weil moved, Butler seconded to adopt Resolution No.
3087 approving Conditional Use Permit 92-027, as submitted. Motion
carried 5-0.
Conditional Use Permit 92-022
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THE IRVINE COMPANY
PO BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
TUSTIN RANCH PROJECT AREA
PC - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 11) SECTION 15311
PURSUANT TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO AMEND THE MASTER SIGN PROGRAM FOR
THE TUSTIN RANCH PROJECT AREA PROVIDING FOR THE
PLACEMENT OF FLAGS AT APARTMENT COMPLEXES
Recommendation- It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve a modification to Conditional Use Permit 92-022 by adopting
Resolution No. 3081, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Anne Bonner, Associate Planner
Commissioner Weil asked for a clarification of the effect of this
proposal on other apartments in the City.
Staff replied that as directed by the Commission, staff is taking
inventory of the type of properties that may be affected by a city-
wide flag proposal; and that staff would be coming back sometime in
the future with a Sign Code amendment.
Commissioner Butler asked if any adverse comments had been
received.
Staff replied negatively.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:49 p.m.
Susan Dyer, Director of Asset Management with the Irvine Company,
introduced herself as available for questions.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:50 p.m.
Commissioner Butler asked if a fine could be incorporated if there
was a deviation from the Sign Code allowances.
Staff replied that a bail schedule is in place.
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September 14, 1992
Page 6
Commissioner Kasalek suggested putting the language of Item 2.1,
Exhibit A into the Sign Code amendment, regarding pole removal.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Weil seconded to approve a modification
to Conditional Use Permit 92-022 by adopting Resolution No. 3081 as
submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
5. Variance 92-006
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
JOSEPH AND DARLENE ALFUSO
17931 LUCERO WAY
TUSTIN, CA 92680
17931 LUCERO WAY
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (R-l)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1), SECTION 15301,
PURSUANT TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
ACT (CEQA)
TO PERMIT A SECOND STORY RESIDENTIAL ADDITION
CONSTRUCTED OVER AN EXISTING GARAGE TO ENCROACH
FIVE FEET INTO THE REQUIRED 20 FOOT MINIMUM FRONT
YARD SETBACK
Recommendation -Pleasure of the Commission.
Presentation: Becky Stone, Assistant Planner
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:55 p.m.
Commissioner Weil commented that it was a nice project.
Commissioner Stracker asked what reaction was received from the
neighbors.
Joseph Alfuso, applicant, stated that a good response was received
from the neighbors within a 300 foot radius; that they are
concerned that the property values increase; that the neighbors
directly behind their property requested no windows looking down
onto their property, which the applicant has complied with.
Commissioner Butler suggested installing windows in the garage to
make the house look completed.
Mr. Alfuso replied that that suggestion had been made, but that
they intend to have a large Bougainvillea bush in that area to
break up the mass of wall.
Commissioner Stracker asked what was hanging off the side of the
front elevation.
Mr. Alfuso replied that it was an extension of the roof line.
Mr. Spitz spoke in favor of the applicant; stated that the addition
will enhance the property values; and that the Alfusos have been
considerate of the neighbors.
Judy Sutliff, 17962 Theodora Drive, was concerned about this
project setting a precedent; and if the addition was over the
garage and to the back of the building.
Staff responded that the development standards allow for two-story
homes up to 35 feet high; that the application is regarding the
front yard setback; and that the addition is only over this
project; and that it will enhance the neighborhood.
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Commissioner Stracker stated that trees will adequately screen the
improvements.
Commissioner Weil agreed that there are special circumstances and
no special privileges had been granted.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Weil seconded to adopt Resolution No.
3086A approving Variance 92-006 authorizing the construction of a
second story residential addition over an existing garage that
would encroach five feet into the required 20 feet front yard
setback on an R-1 lot. Motion carried 5-0.
6. Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14585 and Desiqn Review 91-045
APPLICANT/
LANDOWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
RECREACTION GROUP OF COMPANIES (RGC)
20 CORPORATE PLAZA
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
LOTS 18 AND BB OF TRACT 12870
PLANNED COMMUNITY, MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL-
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE FORTY-THREE (43)
NUMBERED AND TWENTY-FOUR (24) LETTERED LOTS
FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES TO ACCOMMODATE 214
CONDOMINIUM DWELLING UNITS.
2. APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN
OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
Recommendation -It is recommended that the Planning Commission take
the following actions: 1.Approve the Environmental Determination
for the project by adopting Resolution No. 3083 2.Recommend City
Council approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14585 by adopting
Resolution No. 3084, as submitted or revised; and 3.Approve Design
Review 91-045 by adopting Resolution No. 3085, as submitted or
revised.
Presentation: Joann Perry, Associate Planner
Staff made changes to Condition 1.5 of Page 2 of Exhibit A of
Resolution No. 3084, as moved.
Commissioner Stracker suggested that Item 8.2 D on Page 15 of
Exhibit A of Resolution No. 3084 should state 1972, not 1982.
Staff made changes, as moved.
Commissioner Butler asked about the additional density.
Staff replied that a maximum number of dwelling units are allowed
by the East Tustin Specific Plan (ETSP), monitored by staff; that
there is an ability to transfer units to different projects, with
no requests at this time; that school sites purchased may not be
used; and that the area is well under the density proposed.
Commissioner Weil suggested striking the reference to requirement
of only 107 spaces, as the homeowners association might reduce the
proposed amount to the required amount; and suggested that the
Commission consider eliminating the requirement of leaving
pedestrian gates unlocked to allow for greater security.
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Page 8
Staff replied that the project is only required to provide 107
spaces; and that the association can reduce parking by eliminating
spaces which might not be located in the best locations.
The Director replied that the unlocked gate requirement was
mandated by the City Council; that language could be included in
the proposal stating "if required by City Council;" and that a
letter could be drafted to the City Council suggesting that the
gates be allowed to be locked; and that a Knox box would be
provided for emergency access.
Commissioner Kasalek was in agreement with Commissioner Weil.
Commissioner Baker stated that the associations would still have
the capacity to lock the gates or leave them unlocked.
Commissioner Weil noted a typographical error in Item 3.10 on Page
4 of Resolution No. 3085.
Staff made changes, as moved.
Commissioner Stracker asked if the placement of the recreation area
at the front of the project had been reviewed by the Police
Department; and if there would be a lifeguard.
Staff affirmed; and noted that the Police Department considers the
front of the project to be the best location for visibility,
access, and surveillance; that it is intended residents walk to the
recreation area and that there are only a few parking spaces.
The Director replied that there is no requirement for a lifeguard
as signage is posted for children to be accompanied by an adult.
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:27 p.m.
Commissioner Butler asked the applicant about parking.
Patrick Brown, representing Recreaction Group of Companies, stated
that the residents can park close to their houses and guests may
park on-street or in guest spaces; that considering the proximity
to the park, they would appreciate being able to lock gates at
night; and noted that the staff has been cooperative and helpful.
Commissioner Kasalek asked for a clarification of the putting green
shown on the plans.
Mr. Brown replied that the putting green is for the model homes
which do not face the golf course; that it is actually for view
only, not use.
Commissioner Stracker asked if adequate provisions had been made
for protection from golf balls; and if there have been any
complaints.
Mr. Brown stated that the fence facing the golf course meets all
criteria; and that the people have been noticed of the golf course
easement.
Staff responded that the golf ball easement now extends throughout
the tract; and that complaints have been received from developers
during construction; but that the department has not received any
other complaints from homeowners.
Commissioner Weil complimented the developer for its "user-
friendly" projects.
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Page 9
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:33 p.m.
Commissioner Kasalek approved of the lower density of the project.
Staff provided a modification to have City Council consider use of
locking devices on gates, as moved.
Commissioner Weil moved, Butler seconded to recommend City Council
reconsider policy regarding locks in gated communities. Motion
carried 5-0.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to approve the
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 3083 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Weil seconded to recommend City Council
approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14585 by adopting
Resolution No. 3084 revised as follows:
Exhibit A, Page 2, Item 1.5, A: delete the last sentence of
paragraph "Terminal sewer manholes shall be provided at property
line, plus master water metering at the entryway."
Page 11, Item 7.1, F, 4:
by City Council."
at end of sentence add:
", as required
Page 15, Item 8.2, B: change "1982" to "1972"
Page 16, Item 9.4 delete the phrase "rough grading permits and"
Item 9.4, G, delete "rough grading" and insert "foundation"
Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Butler moved, Weil seconded to approve Design Review
91-045 by adopting Resolution No. 3085 revised as follows:
Exhibit A, Page 4, Item 3.10, A, first line, change "side" to
"wide"
Motion carried 5-0.
7. Vesting Tentative Tract MaD 14669 and Desiqn Review 92-032
APPLICANT:
LANDOWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CALIFORNIA PACIFIC HOMES
5 CIVIC PLAZA, SUITE 100
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
BAYCREST DEVELOPMENT COMPANY
5 CIVIC PLAZA, SUITE 100
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
LOTS 8, MM, NN, HHH, III, AND JJJ OF TRACT 12870
MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC
PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 69 NUMBERED AND 26
LETTERED LOTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT
OF 69 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
2. APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN
OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
Recommendation -It is recommended that the Planning Commission take
the following actions: 1.Approve the Environmental Determination
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Page 10
for the project by adopting Resolution No. 3077; 2.Recommend City
Council approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14669 by adopting
Resolution No. 3078, as submitted or revised; and 3.Approve Design
Review 92-032 by adopting Resolution No. 3079, as submitted or
revised.
Presentation: Anne Bonner, Associate Planner
Staff made a change to the staff report on Page 2, Paragraph 1, by
changing 26 lettered lots to 20; and changing the last paragraph of
page 3 to Item 2.2 from 1.7.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if there was an emergency access to the
project; and asked for a clarification of "barrier free access."
Staff replied negatively and noted that the Orange County Fire
Department requires a second access for projects over 100 units;
and that barrier free access refers to handicapped access.
Commissioner Baker asked which lots a variance was requested for.
Staff replied that the Community Development Director may grant
approval for a variance through the ETSP; and that the lots
indicated were 42, 46, 56, and 57.
Commissioner Stracker indicated that Item 8.2 of Page 13 of Exhibit
A of Resolution No. 3078 should refer to 1972, not 1982; and when
the last layer of asphalt would be installed.
Staff changed, as moved; and that the final overlay would be
installed with the final phase.
Commissioner Weil asked for a history of this subdivision; and if
it is gated.
Staff replied that this tract was seen once by the Commission, but
was combined with another lot; that it has since been split and the
new lot requires a new tract number; that the actual configuration
had been previously approved; and that Township Drive is gated, but
the individual tract is not.
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:52 p.m.
Bill Moorhous, Director of Project Management, California Pacific
Homes, stated that this was approved 3-4 years ago, almost identic-
ally to this evening's presentation; that they are in agreement
with all conditions; and requested deletion of Item 2.2 of Exhibit
A of Resolution 3078 requiring a paseo link.
The Director noted that the paseo should not be eliminated since
the EIR for the East Tustin Specific Plan encourages paseos.
However, the applicant may require that access gates be locked, if
such a modification to City Council policy is approved.
Commissioner Weil commented that the project needs an opening which
could be a lockable security gate; that an easier access should be
available for pedestrians and people using public access.
Mr. Moorhous replied that lockable gates would be less
objectionable.
Commissioner Stracker asked if there was a detail of the paseo.
Staff replied that it was not provided on the drawings, but that it
would be filed at the plan check process.
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Commissioner Butler asked if the Specific Plan would be jeopardized
if there is no access; and why is the paseo required if it is
assumed that the gate will be locked.
The Director replied that the EIR includes a mitigation measure for
paseos and pedestrian linkage; and that the intent is to allow
access for the residents to community facilities in the vicinity;
that the issue to lock or not lock was a decision of the City
Council; that the Community Development Department has never
opposed to locking the community gates.
Commissioner Baker stated that the paseo was to encourage people to
walk, and ride bikes through the developments.
The Public Hearing was closed at 9:02 p.m.
Commissioner Kasalek approved of the lower density and wider
streets.
Commissioner Stracker agreed with Commissioner Kasalek.
Commissioner Weil asked if language needed to be added to Item 2.2
for clarification.
The Director replied negatively, as the requirement was for a
paseo, but it did not require it to be locked.
Commissioner Stracker moved, Kasalek seconded to approve the
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 3077 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Weil moved, Stracker seconded to recommend City
Council approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14669 by adopting
Resolution No. 3078 revised as follows:
Exhibit A, Page 13, Item 8.2, B, change "1982" to "1972"
Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Butler moved, Weil seconded to approve Design Review
92-032 by adopting Resolution No. 3079 as submitted. Motion
carried 5-0.
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS:
8. Status Report On Commuter Rail Project
Recommendation - Receive and file.
Staff reported on the subject report.
A discussion was held by the Planning Commission regarding the
Commuter Rail Project. The main issues that the Plan proposes are:
that a second track between Fullerton and Mission Viejo
be added; this would create more trains and double
tracks;
20 Intercity Rail Amtrak Trains; 4 freight trains with no
stops in Tustin; 18 Commuter Rail/LOSSAN (Los Angeles/
San Diego) OCTA trains with a potential stop in Tustin;
and 12 Riverside/Orange County commuter rail/OCTA trains
with a potential stop in Tustin;
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September 14, 1992
Page 12
the major impact will be on Red Hill; feasibility of
underpass/overpass is being studied; Newport Avenue
extension could mitigate traffic, but is dependent upon
new development in Pacific Center East;
A potential train stop location is being studied in the
vicinity of Jamboree and Edinger which would mitigate
future traffic problems; fiscal constraints would be
biggest problem since initial construction would be
funded through Proposition 116, but maintenance of
$150,000 per year would not;
funds would not be generated, but possible parking fees
could be collected;
and a new station could become a catalyst for future
economic development activities.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to receive and file.
9. Sign Code Exception 92-001 Amendment
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve the amendment to Sign Code Exception 92-001 by adopting
Resolution No. 3082, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Becky Stone, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Weil asked how the change in right-of-way requirement
would affect businesses that have complied with dedication.
Staff replied that between E1 Camino and San Juan the necessary
improvements can be made with the existing width, and no additional
right-of-way would be required; and the property owners in the area
would be relieved of the obligation.
Commissioner Baker asked about the status of the Mobil station.
Staff replied that they would investigate whether the Mobil station
was affected and that the Church on Red Hill was not affected.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to approve the amendment
to Sign Code Exception 92-001 by adopting Resolution No. 3082 as
submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
10. Temporary Sign Permit (Chevron)
APPLICANT: JOHN YEGENIAN
14082 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
APPLICANT'S
REPRESENTATIVE: CHEVRON U.S.A, INC.
P.O. BOX 2833
LA HABRA, CA 90632
PROPERTY
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
EXXON CORP
P.O. BOX 53
HOUSTON, TEXAS 77001
14082 RED HILL AVENUE
COMMERCIAL RETAIL (C-l) DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT, PURSUANT TO SECTION 15311 (CLASS 11)
TO ALLOW THE DISPLAY OF STRING PENNANTS FOR A TIME
PERIOD OF THIRTY (30) DAYS.
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Planning Commission.
Planning Commission Minutes
September 14, 1992
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Presentation: Joann Perry, Associate Planner
Commissioner Baker noted that a number of Chevron stations in the
City were upgrading and feared that the flags would be waving from
each station.
Staff commented that they have a good working relation with
Chevron.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if staff had spoken to Chevron regarding
the flags.
Staff stated that Chevron wanted to present this item before the
Commission; that when one business installs pennant flags, it sets
a precedent for other businesses; and that the City trusts that
Chevron would police the flags, but other businesses that would
install them may not.
Commissioner Weil asked the height of the poles.
Commissioner Baker asked if it would be a problem having Chevron
displayed on each flag; and if they would be a nuisance to
pedestrians.
Staff replied that they were six (6) feet high; that the flags
could be approved as a temporary banner; and that they would be
placed in planters.
Commissioner Stracker requested viewing the proposed flags since
there are many children walking through the area and they might
distract drivers.
Staff suggested that the Commission could propose the flags be up
for less than one (1) month; that the grand opening would be held
over a three (3) day weekend; and that the station proposes to have
Rick Dees, a DJ for KIIS, broadcasting and to offer free gasoline
for the four (4) hours from 6:00 to 10:00 a.m.; the proposals are
being reviewed by staff for impacts on traffic, but there has only
been one week notice, and this type of proposal usually requires
approximately one (1) month for the paperwork; and that they would
like to encourage grand openings, but additional time is required.
Commissioner Butler asked if the Commission could restrict Chevron
from giving the free gasoline.
The Director replied that the Temporary Use Permit was for outside
broadcasting which the staff could approve; that the Planning
Commission could request the matter be reviewed; that staff is
concerned about policing and the impact on traffic.
Staff commented that a similar event in Irvine tied up traffic for
two (2) miles and the City of Irvine was required to pay for the
clean up of trash and traffic; that this is a major traffic pattern
for the high school and an on-ramp for the I-5 freeway is located
here; and redirection of traffic exiting the station is a major
concern.
Commissioner Weil asked if the problem has been presented to City
Council.
The Director replied that they have yet to be briefed on the issue.
Commissioner Baker suggested that a bond equal to double of the
anticipated expenses be required in advance; and that recession and
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new business reasons can be used for advertisement, but must
consider residents.
Commissioner Weil stated that this is only a quasi-new business;
that she is in favor of the flags versus the pennants, but is
concerned about visibility; and that they should be placed in the
planter area near the monument sign.
Commissioner Baker suggested that this is an advertising gimmick
and that the flags should be allowed for 15 days only.
Staff replied that conditions regarding location could be imposed.
Commissioner Stracker suggested limiting the amount to six (6)
only; and asked if children could gain access to the poles.
Staff replied that the Sign Code allows five (5); that there is a
temporary footing mechanism keeping the poles in place; and that
shop owners usually store the flags in the evening.
Commissioner Kasalek suggested that string pennants not be
approved, and that the number should be limited to eight (8) and
the time frame should also be limited.
Commissioner Butler stated that he was not opposed to the pennants
nor the flags, but that 15 days was sufficient; that Chevron should
be given the option of flags or pennants; that there are possible
vandalism problems; and asked if limiting the timeframe to five (5)
days would limit the amount of "infection" in the City.
Commissioner Baker asked the height of the monument sign.
Staff replied that it was six (6) feet high.
Commissioner Weil stated that many businesses do not understand the
Sign Code; and that the use of pennants without approval creates
policing problems.
Commissioner Stracker suggested that the flags should be used with
discretion; and that he would like to hear from a Chevron
representative.
The Director stated that the majority of the Commission supported
use of eight (8) decorative flags only for fifteen (15) days, and
modified Conditions 1, 2, and 7 of Exhibit B as follows:
Condition 1: change twelve (12) to read "eight (8)" and delete the
phrase "September 24, 1992 through October 24, 1992 only and shall
not be construed as to be approval for any other time period." and
insert "15 days from the date flags are posted."
Condition 2: delete "as shown on the approved site plan" and
insert "in location as approved by staff."
Condition 7: delete "(October 24, 1992)"
Commissioner Butler asked if bonding would be required.
Commissioner Stracker asked if $50 was sufficient to cover the
expenses of the grand opening.
The Director replied that bonding was related to special events;
and that $50 was staff's hourly rate.
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Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to deny, by Minute Order,
the display of pennant flags and to approve the display of eight
(8) decorative flags for fifteen (15) days from the date of
installation in a location as approved by Community Development
Department. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
11. Report on actions taken at September 8, 1992 City Council
meeting and September 8, 1992 Redevelopment Agency meeting.
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Assistant City Manager
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Weil
-Referred to Mandevilla project and asked if there is double
pick-up for trash structure.
Staff is presently exploring this issue. The Finance Director
will share this information with the Association
representative in a future presentation.
-Inquired if Commissioners Le Jeune and Kasparian would be
receiving proclamations from the City Council.
Staff responded affirmatively.
-Asked about the status of the cactus wren suit.
Staff noted that court decision was pending.
-Noted that the Commissioners should indicate to the clerk any
specific information they wish to be sure is in the minutes.
-Asked if the Commission could review the First Street
Specific Plan.
Staff noted that general plan policies would be brought back
to the Commission, as a first step in the near future.
Commissioner Kasalek
-Noted that recycling bins at the Alpha Beta shopping center
are gone. Asked if they would be returning.
-Inquired about the minutes the City Council received from the
Planning Commission's 8-24-92 meeting regarding the sidewalk
issue.
Staff indicated that they could respond in more detail as
directed by the Commission.
-Indicated a concern about the widths of sidewalks in the
vicinity of schools. Also posted speed limits are not
observed.
Staff will inform the Public Works and Police Departments of
these concerns.
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Commissioner Stracker
-Inquired about additional General Plan workshops
Staff is currently working on the elements, once complete,
they will be brought to the Planning Commission. At this
time, the new Commissioners will be brought up to date.
Commissioner Baker
-Inquired about control of signs posted on utility poles and
graffiti.
Staff responded about the utility company control of their own
signs and noted the City's 72 hour graffiti removal procedure.
-Commented on the condition of the railway spur on Edinger.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to adjourn the meeting at
10:28 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on September
28, 1992 at 7:00 p.m. in the Tustin Senior Center, Tustin.
Chairman
kathleeh-Clancy
Secretary