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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 13, 1992
CALL TO ORDER: 7:02 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Baker, Le Jeune, Kasparian, Kasalek
and Weil
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1. Minutes of the March 23, 1992 Planning Commission meeting.
General Plan Consistency Determination for Tustin Unified
School District School Site Purchases in East Tustin
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
determine that the Tustin Unified School District purchase of
school sites within the East Tustin Specific Plan area are
consistent with the Tustin Area General Plan by adopting Resolution
No. 3018.
Zone Change 92-001, Vesting Tentative Parcel Map 91-288,
Variance 91-019 and Design Review 91-048
Recommendation - Based upon previous Planning Commission direction,
it is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution
Nos. 3014 and 3015 recommending to the City Council denial of the
requested Zone Change and Vesting Tentative Parcel Map, and adopt
Resolution No. 3016 denying the requested Design Review and
Variance, as submitted or revised.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to approve the
Consent Calendar as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Kasparian requested that Item #6 from the Public
Hearings be moved to the beginninq of Public Hearings.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 13, 1992
Page 2
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
6. Code Amendment 92-04
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM FURTHER
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
TO AMEND SPECIFIED SECTION OF ARTICLE 9, CHAPTER 4
OF THE TUSTIN CITY CODE RELATING TO TEMPORARY
SIGNS.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 3019 recommending to the City Council adoption
of Code Amendment 92-04 modifying the regulations for temporary
signs.
Presentation: Sara Pashalides, Associate Planner
Commissioner Weil asked if there was a way to track illegal banner
use.
Staff replied that the computer system would track use permits, and
the code enforcement officer would be able to routinely check the
banners which would have a sticker showing the dates allowed.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the $75 fee was paid annually.
Staff replied that it could be paid once per year if the applicant
submitted a schedule for the entire year; however, a reapplication
fee would be required if the applicant requested additional banners
after his original application.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if another fee would be required if an
applicant wanted to extend a 60-day permit.
The Director affirmed, and replied that the fee would be for
recovery of administrative costs.
Commissioner Baker anticipated some minor technical problems with
the program.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:12 p.m.
Angie Kardashian, President of Chamber of Commerce and owner of
Angie's Cuisine Italiano, stated that the Chamber met with staff
and was very happy with the changes, and that she has found that in
every instance, the City is working and talking with the Chamber.
The Public Hearing closed at 7:15 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked the height requirement of a pole sign.
Staff replied that a pole sign would have a 12 foot overall height
and that this allows the applicant to turn the banner vertically.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that the flexibility is good and it
should promote keeping tax dollars in the City.
Commissioner Weil suggested modifying the shaded area of Item 1.G,
as moved.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to adopt Resolution No.
3019 recommending to the City Council adoption of Code Amendment
Planning Commission Minutes
April 13, 1992
Page 3
92-04 modifying the regulations for temporary signs, revised as
follows:
Ordinance No. 1085, Page 2, item (g): insert the words "in
writing," after "As an alternative, if specific non-consecutive
dates can be identified"
Motion carried 5-0.
Tentative Tract Map 14396, Design Review 90-49, Conditional
Use Permit 91-21 and Hillside Review 91-03
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
table this item until further notice.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Staff suggested that this item be tabled and that it will be
renoticed when the project is ready for consideration.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:22 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:23 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Weil seconded to table this item until
further notice. Motion carried 5-0.
5. Extension of Temporary Use Permit 92-002
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MC WHINNEY BERRIES
P.O. BOX 2526
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA. 92647
BORCHARD RED HILL
4343 VON KARMAN
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
14982 RED HILL AVENUE
M (INDUSTRIAL)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO THE
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION OF AN EXTENSION OF A TEMPORARY USE
PERMIT FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE MONTHS RESULTING IN
AN EXPIRATION DATE OF JULY 13, 1992, FOR THE SALE
OF STRAWBERRIES IN AN OPEN-AIR STAND.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
deny the request to extend Temporary Use Permit 92-002 by Minute
Order.
Presentation: Anne E. Bonner, Associate Planner
Chad McWhinney, P.O. Box 4423, Huntington Beach, representative of
McWhinney Berries, stated that the stand opened the weekend of
March 6 based on the assumption that their permit would be
processed if the application was received by Anne Bonner by 12:30;
that the package was delivered by courier to ensure a timely
delivery, but it was not received until 3:30. He continued with
stating that the subcontractor set up the sign along with the stand
contrary to direction given the subcontractor; that Tustin is the
only City not allowing a temporary A-frame sign; and this is in
joint venture with U.S. Youth Athletic Network.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 13, 1992
Page 4
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the stand was in operation.
Mr. McWhinney affirmed and that it was in compliance; that if he
had been told to wait four (4) days for approval, they would have.
Commissioner Weil stated that if this was the first time they had
dealt with the city, the miscommunication could be understood; and
that leaving the application to the last minute is not a good
business practice, and they are therefore asking the City to
approve their business practice.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:32 p.m.
Staff refuted Mr. McWhinney's comments by noting the
inconsistencies in the dates of the application; that there have
been repeated requests for removal of the A-frame sign, which was
finally confiscated.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the package was delivered on March
12.
The Director responded that they received a letter from McWhinney
on February 28; informed the him on Thursday of the code
enforcement; and that staff could reconstruct the code enforcement
records; that the application arrived on March 12.
Commissioner Baker asked if the stand was built on March 6, and the
application received on March 12.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the packet was complete could
something be issued over the counter.
The Director responded that it was unusual for any staff member to
provide verbal approval; and noted that the Temporary Use Permit
cannot be provided over the counter since conditions have to be
typed and the site must be reviewed.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there were currently any problems
with the stand.
The Director replied that they are currently in conformity.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the Temporary Use Permit extension
could be canceled at any time if there were further problems.
The Director replied that a condition would have to be imposed on
the permit detailing the procedure.
Commissioner Weil asked about current signage;
clarification of the dates of the extension.
and for a
The Director replied that they are allowed signage on each
elevation; and that the extension would run 60 days from April 13.
Commissioner Baker asked if they were in compliance with the CUP.
Staff affirmed.
The Director modified condition 10, added 11 and renumbered, as
moved.
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April 13, 1992
Page 5
Commissioner Kasparian stated that he felt that the Commission was
"being had;" that he feels better with the changes to the
conditions; and that he felt strongly that the Commission should
not be thought of as approving after the fact.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that he felt Commissioner Kasparian's
comments exemplified the Commission's feelings about the procedure.
Commissioner Weil stated that she would not support the extension,
based on principals; that they are flexible with business people;
and feel that they have been taken advantage of by the applicant.
Commissioner Baker stated that he was not in disagreement with
Commissioner Weil's comments, and informed the applicant of the
City's opinion on their business practices.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasalek seconded to approve an
extension of Temporary Use Permit 92-002 by Minute Order, with
conditions revised as follows:
Exhibit A, change item #1 to read: "This temporary use permit
extension is valid from April 13, 1992 to June 15, 1992." Add a
new item #11 "In the event of any violation of Conditions 9 or 10,
the Community Development Department is authorized by the Planning
Commission to immediately revoke the temporary use permit
extension." and renumber the items that follow.
Motion carried 4-1 with Commissioner Weil opposing.
OLD BUSINESS:
7. Consideration to Revoke Conditional Use Permit 90-09 (Mobile
Recycling)
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Commission
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
The Director commented that correspondence was received from an
advocacy group, Californian's Against Waste, representing a portion
of the recycling industry; and that the actions by the City are not
against the recycling efforts, but this applicant.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if placement of three (3) bins is being
discussed.
Staff replied that the current application requests two (2) bins;
that there have been three (3) placed in the recent past; that the
current application is incomplete; that any discussion of two (2)
bins must be deferred until a public hearing is scheduled; and that
this discussion is whether to pursue revocation of the User Permit.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if one of the complaints was due to
lack of discipline of items outside of the bins; if he must confine
all items when the facility is closed; and that they cannot force
the recycler to be responsible for after-hour drop-offs.
Staff affirmed, that the complaints are regarding storage of
materials outside the bins during non-operating hours; that
everything must be stored inside the bins; that this type of
facility is attracting outside storage; and that the applicant has
made arrangements with Alpha Beta personnel to store material that
has been dropped off, but has not occurred in all instances.
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April 13, 1992
Page 6
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that most of the recycling stations in
the area are either automated or open seven (7) days per week; that
the two days this location is closed allows items to stack up; and
that it is essential that someone at least be available to clean up
seven (7) days per week.
Commissioner Weil stated that this is similar situation to the
previous applicant; that the City is very cooperative with
recyclers, and this is the only one have problems; that she is in
favor of revoking the permit and have the applicant present a new
package; that the excess around the bins does not look nice in the
City; and that other centers have done a beautiful job.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked about parking lot striping.
Staff replied that a striping plan was missing from the
application.
Commissioner Kasalek asked the cost of reapplication if the CUP is
revoked.
The Director replied that it would cost $525, plus environmental
charges; but that the applicant will also have to pay the fee if
amendments are made.
Commissioner Kasalek asked about the discussion regarding increased
pick-ups of the bins so that they could operate with one bin.
Staff replied that the applicant provided information that they
were not able to reduce the load to less than two (2) bins.
Commissioner Baker asked how long it would take to process the
amendment.
Staff replied that it could possibly be scheduled for May 11.
The Director stated that the Commission could take conditional
action, as moved, that the permit would not be issued prior to May
11 if the application is complete, and would be canceled if no new
permit was issued on May 11; and that this would give the applicant
an incentive to proceed.
Ralph Orseno, General Manager of Mobile Recycling, stated that he
was responsible for placement of the second bin; that he chose to
place it due to health and safety factors; and that pulling all
containers off the site would upset the customers; that they have
been taking more than they could hold; that most violations have
been corrected; that they would appreciate more time for
formulating their restriping plan; and that the owner's affidavit
is in staff's possession;
Commissioner Kasparian asked what the applicant intended to do
about the drop-off items.
Mr. Orseno replied that they can expand their hours, but by law
they only have to be open 30 hours per week; and that even reverse
recyclers have a problem with drop-off items; and can spend more
time monitoring the site.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasparian seconded to adopt Resolution No.
3017 recommending to the City Council revocation of Conditional Use
Permit 90-09 which authorized the establishment of a 170 square
foot bulk vending recycling facility in the parking lot located at
14551 Red Hill Avenue, revised as follows:
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April 13, 1992
Page 7
Resolution No. 3017, page 2, item II., at the end of the last
sentence, 14551 Red Hill Avenue, delete the period and add the
following: "provided that an amendment to Conditional Use Permit
90-09 is not issued by the Planning Commission prior to May 12,
1992."
Motion carried 5-0
8. Freeway Construction Status
Commissioner Weil asked if detour signs would be in place.
The Director affirmed.
Received and filed
NEW BUSINESS=
Design Review 92-020 (Amendment to Design Review 87-37) and
Sign Code Exception 92-002)
APPLICANTS:
LAND OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
IRVINE RETAIL PROPERTIES COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
IKEA U.S. WEST INCORPORATED
350 SOUTH CRENSHAW BOULEVARD, SUITE A-207
TORRANCE, CALIFORNIA 90503
IRVINE RETAIL PROPERTIES
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
TUSTIN MARKET PLACE AND 2982 EL CAMINO REAL
MIXED USE - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1 AND 3)
PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 15301 AND 15303 OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA)
1. APPROVAL OF AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TOWER COLOR
(TUSTIN YELLOW - CUSTOM COLOR)
2. APPROVAL OF OFFICIAL AND BUSINESS
IDENTIFICATION (CORPORATE) FLAGS, AS PROPOSED
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
provide direction on Design Review 92-020, a request for approval
of an additional building tower color, and adopt Resolution No.
3020 approving Sign Code Exception 92-002.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the color
chosen; and which part of the tower would be painted.
Staff indicated the color on the color board as being the accent
yellow; and that the entire tower would be painted.
Commissioner Baker asked for a clarification of Item 1.4 of
Resolution No. 3020.
Staff replied that the applicant can pick from any of the flags
listed; that they are allowed four (4) flags, with one (1)
corporate flag; but would like five (5) flags with two (3)
corporate flags.
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April 13, 1992
Page 8
Commissioner Baker asked if there were any regulations regarding
the State flag.
Jim Rourke, city Attorney, replied negatively.
Commissioner Kaspa~ian asked if any other store in the Market Place
could make the same request.
Staff replied that they could not without staff approval; and that
the sign code at the Market Place allows four (4) flags on a per
parcel basis.
The Director stated that the sign code is not isolated to
businesses, but per property; and that there would not be a
situation where every business would request the exception.
Commissioner Weil suggested that the sign code be amended in the
future; and that a building this size would look better with five
(5) flags.
Commissioner Kasparian commented that his reaction to the yellow
color was negative; if the applicant would consider another
suggestion; and suggested having the logo in yellow and paint the
tower another color as a compromise.
Pat Smith, Plymouth Commons, Plymouth Meeting, PA, representing
IKEA Property, Inc., stated that this was as close to the IKEA
yellow as possible with the palette provided; that they have
compromised by not including their corporate blue color; and that
their corporate colors are very important. He continued with noting
that their store is their best marketing tool and want the color on
the building.
Commissioner Baker asked if other locations were blue and yellow.
Mr. Smith replied that the east coast locations were all blue and
yellow; and that the towers at Burbank and Fontana were blue and
there were blue and yellow accents; and that the sign will be blue
in the daytime and yellow at night.
Commissioner Weil stated that it looks like a neon-lemon-yellow and
would prefer the color of the accent wedge on the monolith; and
that this is a very successful center that looks like a circus.
Staff replied that the accent wedge would be more like the approved
marigold color.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that she did not find the yellow color
offensive; that the colors are pulling together; and that the
Market Place is different from any other center.
Commissioner Le Jeune suggested not adding to the gaudiness by
staying with the approved colors, and not add the yellow.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to approve an additional
building tower color for Design Review 92-020. Motion carried 3-2
with Kasparian and Le Jeune being opposed.
Commissioner Weil moved, Le Jeune seconded to adopt Resolution No.
3020 approving Sign Code Exception 92-002. Motion carried 5-0.
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April 13, 1992
Page 9
10. IRVINE BUSINESS COMPLEX
The Planning Commission held a discussion regarding the density of
the plan and proposed traffic effect.
Received and filed
11. Modification to Design Review 90-52
APPLICANT:
LAND OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MARK J. PALMER, ARCHITECT
8350 MELROSE AVENUE
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90069
LAWRENCE HARTMAN
2535 SOUTH FAIRFAX AVENUE
CULVER CITY, CALIFORNIA 90232
621 WEST FIRST STREET
FIRST STREET SPECIFIC PLAN
COMMERCIAL AS PRIMARY USE;
SECONDARY USES
HOTEL & OFFICE AS
THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 3)
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15303 OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT (CEQA)
TO DELETE CONDITION NO. 3.2 OF RESOLUTION NO. 2882
WHICH REQUIRES A MASONRY WALL AT THE REAR PROPERTY
LINE
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 3021 approving the deletion of Condition No.
3.2 of Resolution No. 2882, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the carports were demolished in the
future, would the applicant be responsible for a new wall at that
time.
The Director replied that the area is not zoned for residential;
that a new applicant would be a business and not require a wall.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasalek seconded to adopt Resolution
No. 3021 approving the deletion of Condition No. 3.2 of Resolution
No. 2882 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
12. Report on actions taken at April 6, 1992 city Council meeting
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Baker
-Congratulated Commissioner Weil on moderating two workshops
at the League of California Cities
-Reminded everyone to vote
Commissioner Weil
-Notified staff that they do an excellent job as compared to
other cities' staff
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April 13, 1992
Page 10
-Noted that there are freeway signs out to San Joaquin that
identify business according to type that are paid for by
businesses
-Asked about political signs that are taken off the public
right-of-way
Commissioner Kasparian
-Asked if the Planning Commission could be included more in
the early stages of projects
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Asked if the strawberry stand on Newport Avenue and E1 Camino
Real are under the same owner
Commissioner Kasalek
-Let staff know that residents appreciated the CIPP meeting
and she believes that staff does a great job
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Le Jeune seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 9:10 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on April 27,
1992 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way,
Tustin.
Kathleen Clancy
Secretary