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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 24v 1992
CALL TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Baker, Le Jeune, Kasparian, Kasalek
and Well
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1. Minutes of the February 10, 1992 Planninq Commission meetinq.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Weil seconded to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. Conditional Use Permit 92-003
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MR. MARVIN ROWLAND
166 NORTH JETTY DRIVE
ORANGE, CA. 92668
MR. WILLIAM ZAPPAS
3922 EMERALD
TORRANCE, CA. 90503
640 EL CAMINO REAL
ZONING:C-2 (CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH A PAWN BROKER BUSINESS
IN AN EXISTING TENANT SPACE
~ecommendat~o~ - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 92-003 by adopting Resolution 3008,
as submitted or revised.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 24, 1992
Page 2
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director
Commissioner Kasparian asked if this was the first pawn broker in
the City; and if pawn brokers necessarily produce problems, i.e.
break-ins, police activity, etc.
The Director was not aware of any specific previous cases.
Problems associated with pawn brokers are generally related to the
operation of the facility which is tied to the license and hearing
board provisions of the Tustin City Code; and that the Commission
is only being asked to deal with the land use issue.
Commissioner Weil asked if the Police Department had seen this
report and noted any problems in the report; and if the applicant
will be using roller gates for security.
The Director responded that the Police Department has seen the
report and will see it again and has recommended specific
conditions in Attachment A; she referred the Commission to the
applicant regarding security gates.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:06 p.m.
Marvin Rowland, 166 N. Jetty Drive, Orange, replied that he would
be using roller gates or security bars, whichever the City prefers.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the gates would be inside.
Mr. Rowland affirmed; and noted that his is not the first pawn
brokerage in the City; that there is one (1) other and two (2)
other use permits.
Commissioner Kasparian asked the level of traffic expected.
Mr. Rowland replied that he expected one (1) person at a time, not
a high volume.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:09 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there were any other types of
businesses that are subject to this level of Police Department
screening.
The Director replied that there are a number of resale and second
hand businesses that must be screened by the Police Department, and
that she would provide a list of such businesses, if desired.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasparian seconded to approve Conditional
Use Permit 92-003 by adopting Resolution No. 3008 as submitted.
Motion carried 5-0.
OLD BUSINESS:
3. Development and Code Enforcement Status Reports
The Director stated that this is the first report from the new
computer system.
Commissioner Weil asked for a clarification of transfers in the
report.
The Director responded that the maximum dwelling unit total in each
sector is capped by the Specific Plan and that she would provide a
technical description of the program.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 24, 1992
Page 3
Received and filed.
4. Large Family Day Care Home (LFD 92-001)
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CYNTHIA SUE BIERY
1792 LANCE DRIVE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
1792 LANCE DRIVE
R-1 (SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO OPERATE A LARGE FAMILY DAY CARE
HOME
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Chairman inquire if any
person in the audience wishes to submit a protest, and then accept
any protests submitted. If a valid protest is lodged, then the
matter should be continued and scheduled for a public hearing at
the next available Commission meeting. If a protest is not filed,
it is recommended that the Commission approve the subject
application by adopting Resolution No. 3009, as submitted or
revised.
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director
Ralph F. Porter, 1791 Andrews, stated that he owns the adjacent
property; that he is concerned about his loss of privacy; that he
would not have purchased his home if he was aware of a day care
center next door; and that his property value will suffer. He
continued with noting that there seems to be a lack of supervision
and that it was unreasonable to double the amount of children that
they are responsible for; that he spoke with Mr. Biery in the past
with no cooperation regarding privacy; and has submitted a signed
petition from the neighbors.
The Director responded that the Deputy City Attorney feels that
this is a valid protest and suggested the Commission continue the
matter to the second meeting in March with a Public Hearing notice.
Commissioner Baker asked if anyone in the audience was a renter
that would like a notice.
Carol Sorcibel protested the day care center.
Commissioner Kasparian asked about a cover letter with regards to
discrepancies.
The Director responded that the fire
assigned to the building officials,
responsibility of the Fire Department.
safety issues shall be
and are no longer the
Commissioner Kasparian asked who conducts the inspections.
The Director replied that it would be the Building Division.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if a statement rescinding the permit
was needed.
The Director replied that there was no ability to impose conditions
if the findings were met; but will respond at the Public Hearing.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 24, 1992
Page 4
Commissioner Le Jeune moved. KasDarian seconded to continue the
item and schedule a public hearing for the March 23rd Planning
Commission meeting. Motion carried $-0.
So
Chamber of Commerce Request to Temporarily Allow Unrestricted
Temporary Siqnage
Presentation: Community Development Staff
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that the original meetings with the
Chamber of Commerce were held at the beginning of the recession;
that the City's banner ordinance is extremely generous; that it
would be difficult to determine the ending of the recession, but
that perhaps if the City Council suggested a six (6) month period,
that would be acceptable; that he hoped a relaxed code would not be
like the example at Newport and Walnut; that parking is a major
problem in some centers; that Tustin Market Place has taken some
business from the local stores; and asked if the walls along the 5
Freeway would be extended to the 55 Freeway; and that they tend to
obscure the City.
The Director responded that the heights along the freeway will vary
and will provide some visibility.
Commissioner Le J~n~ continued with suggesting setting up a task
force consisting of a few of the staff, Planning Commission, City
Council, and Chamber of Commerce to look at different methods of
increasing business; that an informal poll netted information that
the residents do not realize that the City receives some of the
sales tax money. He also stated that the Chamber of Commerce, the
newspapers, the cable station, and the mayor could help inform the
residents about the importance of shopping and dining in Tustin for
the sales tax, and send out a mailing informing the residents how
the tax program works. He suggested that one banner pole and the
entry signs to the City could emphasize shopping and dining in the
City; and that temporary signs could be placed around town
encouraging shopping in Tustin.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that she was concerned about the
proposed sign program being open ended; that parameters are needed
to clarify the limits; that when banners are up too long, they tend
to be ignored; that banners may help, but people are not eating out
and spending as much, right now; that the City now has a generous
banner program; that waiving of fees is a possibility; and that she
would like to help the businesses.
Commissioner Baker suggested that the $50 security fee is
appropriate, but should drop the level of the other fee; that
banners become ineffective; that part of Tustin is becoming an
island, especially First Street; that freeway signs are directing
traffic onto Fourth/Irvine prematurely and that those areas need to
be assisted with directional signs; that shops need to give good
service; and that the Sign Code is good, that the fees could be
reduced a bit, but otherwise should remain as it is.
Commissioner Kasparian stated that as a customer, banners signs do
not attract him; that he relies on mailings, newspapers, and window
signs; that deteriorating banner signs are reprehensible to the
aesthetics of a store; that the City has other priorities than
policing banner signs. He continued with noting that Commissioner
Le Jeune's suggestions to promote business within the City were
appropriate; that a lot of thought went into the Sign Code, and
that the mechanics should not be changed; that it was established
by a committee of the Planning Commission, the Chamber of Commerce
Planning Commission Minutes
February 24, 1992
Page 5
and members of the Community; that the City has the most liberal
sign code; and suggested that waiving the fee may not be
significant to businessmen.
Commissioner Weil asked how many ramps are closed in the City.
CommissioDer Le Jeune suggested that it depends which way you are
travelling, and when.
Commissioner Weil continued with suggesting that the businesses,
Chamber of Commerce and newspapers could make accessibility to
businesses be better known; that the Planning Commission's
responsibility is limited. She also stated that freeway signs
could be added stating 'Tustin Next 4 Exits', etc.; that the fee
could be relaxed to $25 for six months; that the refundable
assurance fee should be kept at $50; and that she agrees with the
rest of the Commission in that banners are designed for
effectiveness, which would be lost if left up for extended periods.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the Sign Code was relaxed, how would
the Chamber of Commerce notify the Community; and asked the
Director's comments regarding what could be done.
The Director replied that an urgency ordinance would not require
any Planning Commission review, if desired by the City Council;
that the program would be similar to the business license amnesty
program, with a limited time period.
Commissioner Weil stated that she was concerned that the City would
look like it was 'wallpapered' with banners and that it would
affect the image of the City; that it will be detrimental to the
businesses, because it will look like the City is out of control.
Commissioner Baker asked about the temporary sign code at the Auto
Center.
The Director replied that prior to the installation of the
permanent sign, they are allowed temporary banners, which are
restricted in size and content; and that the temporary sign program
for special events is very liberal, and concessions have been
granted.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the Chamber of Commerce was looking
for specific changes.
The Director replied that she expected to get more input at the
next City Council meeting, and that she had no previous contact
with the Chamber of Commerce prior to the last City Council
meeting; that the Chamber is primarily looking for time extensions,
and possibly a temporary increase in window signage.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that there are currently 13 violations
of temporary signs on the Code Enforcement report, but that there
are actually many more; that this indicates that the City is not
harassing the businesses.
The Director stated that they are targeting zones, at this time.
Commissioner Weil noted that there was not a profusion of requests
for banners.
The Director replied that there has been an increase in requests;
that there have been press releases and the sign industry is
promoting banners.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 24, 1992
Page 6
Commissioner Kasparian stated that he was against a 12 month
continuous extension; that the determination of the ending of a
recession is subjective; and that this is not a valid
consideration.
The Director commented that the Chapman University Center for
Economic Research indicates that the total sales tax for the period
1992-1993 would only increase about 3%, and would be erased with
inflation; that not more than 10% increase is expected between
1993-1996.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked for a clarification of 'special signs'
as noted in the last page of Angie Kardashian's letter.
The Director replied that she would provide a clarification of that
statement.
Commissioner Le Jeune determined the consensus of the Commission to
be against changing the Sign Code.
Commissioner Kasparian referred to a comment in the report noting
that Tustin gave approval to relax the Sign Code.
The Director responded that that comment was being circulated by
the sign industry and that it was commending the Commission.
STAFF CONCERNS:
0
Report on actions taken at February 18, 1992 City Council
meetinq
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
Commissioner Baker asked what department was responsible for
handling the loan/grant programs.
The Director replied that it would be the Community Development
Department.
Commissioner Weil asked if the loan programs would help the Housing
Element.
The Director replied that it would provide a credit towards the
Housing Element because it would be restricted to the fair market
rent levels.
COI4~ISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Kasparian
-Informed staff of a home business sign posted at Miller and
Prospect.
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Reported graffiti at Christian bookstore by freeway.
-Inquired if two pole signs at Newport Avenue and First Street
were approved.
-Asked if Nisson Car Wash was permitted to post signs
advertising prices.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 24, 1992
Page 7
-Asked if the permit was issued on the McWhinney Berry stand.
Indicated that the owner of shopping center has two code
violations dating back to August of 1991.
Commissioner Kasalek
-Asked if the berry stand construction was finished. Has
sheet metal along the back and looks unfinished.
-Inquired about status of the left turn report.
Chairman Baker
-Commented that the auto mall sales tax increases were high.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 8:15 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on March 9,
1992 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way,
Tustin.
~a~a~k~er
Kathleen Clancy ~
Secretary