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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 10t 1992
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7:01 p.m., City Council Chambers
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Present:
Baker, Le Jeune, Kasparian, Kasalek
and Weil
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Jean Vallandiqham, 17345 Via Lindo, spoke in opposition to the
color of the Crab Cooker Restaurant and the removal of landscaping;
presented additional signed complaints; noted that the red color is
not in keeping with the look of Enderle Center; and that the
Commission has not been consistent with applicants.
Leo Middleton, 17332 Parker Drive, noted that the color of the Crab
Cooker Restaurant is incompatible and inharmonious with the center;
and requested that the Commission require the restaurant adhere to
the architectural and color scheme of the center; require the color
change to be aesthetically pleasing and environmentally compatible;
and that the owners replace the removed trees.
The Director replied that the design review was approved months
ago; that the appeal period has expired; that the applicant has a
vested right to make the changes; that all changes were approved by
the Commission, excepting the removal of the trees where there was
some confusion regarding the landscaping plan; that the Code does
not preclude removal of trees; that the removal was within the
purview of the owner and that they have negotiated replacement of
the trees. She continued with rebutting that Home Savings made a
business decision not to install tiles, but use a Tustin history
mural instead; that the Planning Commission approved the Home
Savings application as presented.
Commissioner Baker asked if a notification had been sent to all of
the neighbors; and asked if there was a letter on file from the
homeowners association.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 10, 1992
Page 2
A1 Cole asked if it was true that the Association approved the
color; and noted that he did not agree with the color; asked if any
of the Commissioners had seen the restaurant since it had been
painted and offered to show it from the homeowners' point of view.
The Director responded that a mailing was made within a 300 foot
radius; that it may not have included all of the townhomes; that
the homeowners association supported and reviewed the proposal;
that it was unfortunate that there was a misunderstanding that the
opponents thought the Commission could change the application; and
that she would provide Mr. Cole with a copy of the letter.
Lee Braithwaite, 17481 Via Lindo, Tustin, stated that she felt that
the color was awful and gaudy.
Claudia Wyse, 17351 Via Lindo, Tustin, stated that the residents of
Park Tustin have taken pride in the Council's decisions; that they
have the responsibility to make a change; and asked for
recommendations as to how the residents could have the color
changed.
John Shaw, City Attorney, agreed with the Director by stating that
the owner had a vested right to retain the color; and suggested
that the residents could go directly to the owners and persuade
them to change the color.
Commissioner Baker stated that the Commission is not able to advise
or help the opponents.
The Director suggested that she would provide a name for the
residents to contact.
Harriett Hammond, 17365 Via Lindo, Tustin, spoke in opposition to
the color of the Crab Cooker.
Commissioners Kasparian and Kasalek stated that they have seen the
restaurant.
1. Minutes of the January 27, 1992 Planninq Commission meeting.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasalek seconded to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Tentative Tract Map 14396, Design Review 90-49, Conditional
Use Permit 91-21 and Hillside Review 91-03
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
FOOTHILL COMMUNITY BUILDERS
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
ATTENTION: MR. DAVE CONLEY
LOTS 12, 13, 24, AND 25 OF TRACT 13627
ESTATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL/HILLSIDE DISTRICT - EAST
TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 351 NUMBERED LOTS AND
90 LETTERED LOTS FOR THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT
OF 351 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS;
2. APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE
PLANS AND RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS;
Planning Commission Minutes
February 10, 1992
Page 3
AUTHORIZATION FOR A CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT AND
USE OF THE "CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT" STANDARDS OF
THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN FOR PORTIONS OF
THIS PROJECT; AND
APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPTUAL GRADING PLANS FOR
CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF HILLSIDE
REVIEW.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
continue this item to the April 13, 1992 Planning Commission
meeting.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:27 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:28 p.m.
Commissioner Weil moved, Le Jeune seconded to continue this item to
the April 13, 1992 Planning Commission meeting. Motion carried 5-
Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14610; Design Review 91-55;
Amendment to the East Tustin Development Agreement
APPLICANT/
LAND OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
IRVINE RETAIL PROPERTIES COMPANY
2 PARK PLAZA, SUITE 300
IRVINE, CALIFORNIA 92714
WILLIAMSON AND SCHMID
15101 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
PORTIONS OF LOTS 22 AND 23 OF BLOCK 44 OF THE
IRVINE SUBDIVISION RECORDED IN BOOK 1, PAGE 88 OF
MISCELLANEOUS MAPS OF THE ORANGE COUNTY RECORDER
MIXED USE - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY-CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2), AS MODIFIED BY THE SUBSEQUENTLY-ADOPTED
SUPPLEMENT AND ADDENDA, FOR THE EAST
TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
1. APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE EAST TUSTIN
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO RESERVE LAND IN
ANOTHER LOCATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF
CONSTRUCTING A HOTEL.
2. APPROVAL OF A MODIFICATION TO THE SECTOR 12
CONCEPT PLAN AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF
THE SUBDIVISION OF A 23.9 ACRE LOT TO CREATE
SIX NUMBERED LOTS FOR RETAIL/COMMERCIAL
PURPOSES; AND
3. APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL
DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE ENTIRE SITE, AND
BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR ONE MAJOR TENANT
STRUCTURE.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following actions: 1. Approve the Environmental
Determination for the project by adopting Resolution No. 3005; 2.
Recommend City Council approval of the Amendment to the East Tustin
Development Agreement by Minute Order; 3. Approve a Modification
to the Sector 12 Concept Plan and recommend City Council approval
of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14610 by adopting Resolution No.
3007, as submitted or revised; and 4. Approve Design Review 91-55
by adopting Resolution No. 3006, as submitted or revised.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 10, 1992
Page 4
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Staff made changes to Resolutions 3006 and 3007, as moved.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:33 p.m.
Jim Ryan, 2286 Boxwood Place, President of Sycamore Homeowners
Association, spoke in opposition to the application; stated that
the Irvine Company made a thorough presentation to the homeowners
and were assured that the Market Place look and light towers would
not be repeated; were originally informed that a hotel and
commercial enterprise would be built with a pleasant ambiance; that
the traffic patterns of a K-Mart and Costco could not compare with
a hotel; that their property values would decline; that pollution,
noise, traffic and investment are concerns; that they are concerned
about the traffic crossing three lanes to turn into and out of the
center which would increase the likelihood of accidents and noise;
and that the entrance should be eliminated or a turning lane should
be installed.
Clarence Barker, Vice President, Irvine Retail Property Company,
made a presentation on the project. He then stated that the
applicant had listened to the concerns of the residents; that the
hotel was only to utilize 5 acres, while the remaining 19 acres
were always to be used for commercial; that they expect a $900,000
annual tax revenue; that all truck traffic will enter from E1
Camino Real; that the light fixtures are under 25 feet tall; that
the colors would be soft tones; that a traffic study was prepared
by an outside engineer; that there will be quality architecture and
a physical balance; and that they are in concurrence with staff's
recommendations including changes.
Steve Gould, a homeowner in Sycamore Glen, stated that he was
concerned with the aesthetics, but that Irvine Company presentation
somewhat mitigated his concerns; is in favor of retail commercial
development, but is concerned with selection of stores; that a
supermarket, dry cleaner, postal annex, and small restaurants are
desired and that the growth of the area would warrant them.
Cheryl Bell, 2346 Aspen Street, Tustin, Vice President of Sycamore
Glen Homeowners Association, spoke as a homeowner by stating that
the traffic of a hotel was greatly different than that of retail;
that the retail next to a hotel would be greatly different than
this type of hotel; that they are concerned with the entrance off
of Tustin Ranch Road; that the traffic is already heavy and fast;
that parking would be a nightmare in December; was concerned with
deliveries; and that her property value would decline further.
Fran Lundquist, 13592 Mahogany Place, Tustin, stated that she
purchased her home as a retirement residence; that she was promised
to be adjacent to a hotel and restaurants; that she is disappointed
to now be looking at a K-Mart and Costco; and that she will have to
sell her home.
Diana Leeds, 13395 Via Almeria, stated that she pays $5,000 per
year in property taxes; that she does not want to live next to a K-
Mart or Costco; that her property value will decrease; that she was
concerned about the type of people these stores would attract; that
shopping carts would be left around town; and was concerned about
the integrity of Tustin Ranch.
Mike Anderson, 2473 Via Corella, asked the customer oount per day,
week and month of Costco; noted that there would be a lot of
traffic off of the freeway and on E1 Camino during receiving hours;
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February 10, 1992
Page 5
noted that they moved to an upscale neighborhood; that they are
paying over 2% in property taxes; that they will sell their home if
K-Mart and Costco are built; that they are disappointed in the
City; and that K-Mart and Costco do not fit the image of the area.
Sandy Wollanqk, Sevilla Townhomes, stated that she was disappointed
with the idea of K-Mart and Costco being built; that it is not in
keeping with the image of the neighborhood; that her value is now
10% lower than originally without the addition of K-Mart and
Costco; suggested putting all entrances/exits onto E1 Camino/
Myford; that back-ups will significantly impair traffic flow; and
that the stores would draw traffic from other areas.
Jane Anderson, 2473 via Corella, Vice President Sevilla Homeowners
Association, spoke in opposition as a homeowner; asked how Costco
and K-Mart project sales to compare with a hotel; was concerned
with additional stop lights; asked how much the revenue would help
the homeowners; that it is an upscale neighborhood, and that the
Market Place does not provide upscale shopping; and that homes are
already selling for $20,000 less than originally paid.
Peter Bonello, homeowner of Sycamore Glen, suggested that this type
of development would be an extension of the Market Place, and that
there are other needs for the residents than a K-Mart and Costco.
Judith Davies, resident of Sycamore Glen, stated that she was
concerned about the safety of the numerous children in the area.
Maureen Melvold, 2346 Aspen, Tustin, stated that a lot of care and
thought went into planning Tustin Ranch; and was concerned that the
same quality and care was not evident in a shopping center housing
a K-Mart and Costco; that Tustin Ranch drew quality residents, not
bargain hunters; and that the revenue from sales tax should not be
the number one issue.
Mr. Barker responded by stating that the Market Place and this
center were attracting "value" retail stores; that K-Mart
recognizes an image problem and is changing and expanding their
lines of products; that Costco would serve a five mile radius of
the community; that the 19 acres could easily be developed into
Costco, K-Mart and a hotel; that a 250 room hotel needs about one
employee per room; and that neither tenant will take overnight
deliveries.
Joe Foust, Austin, Foust and Associates, prepared the traffic
study; stated that a hotel generates more traffic; that retail
traffic draws from approximately a five mile radius, and a hotel
draws from 10-15 or more miles; that a mitigation measure is
included if the traffic is too heavy in 20 years; that the project
was anticipated over five years ago; and that the Market Place has
less traffic than anticipated. He continued with noting that the
new signals cannot disrupt either existing or idealized progression
of traffic; that concentrating all traffic at one entrance/exit
would be too congested. He stated that traffic counts at peak
season/hour at Costco would be approximately 5 trips per hour per
thousand square feet, if it is a successful location.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if they considered the surrounding
areas when surveying the other Costcos.
Mr. Foust replied that they performed vehicle counts and the number
of passengers in the vehicles at the Garden Grove and Laguna Niguel
locations. He continued with stating that there would be a
deceleration right turn lane; that the 1,100 trips for the center
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February 10, 1992
Page 6
would be distributed through the center; that the site was
originally anticipated to require 1,300 trips per day.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if there would be ~ signal on Tustin
Ranch Road; and asked the relative safety of turning out of the
center and crossing over quickly for the left-turn lane.
Mr. Foust replied negatively regarding the signal on Tustin Ranch
Road; and stated that there would be 600-700 feet to cross over to
the left-turn lane; and that the traffic signal at E1 Camino
provides a traffic break.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the signals for E1 Camino and Bryan
would be installed prior to the stores opening.
The Director replied that they would be installed in conjunction
with the Certificate of Occupancy.
Commissioner Baker asked the traffic generation for a grocery
store.
Mr. Foust replied that a grocery store creates 7-9 trips per hour
per thousand square feet; that it would only be half the size of
Costco; but that not all trips are new trips, and many are local.
Dana Kasdan, Engineering Service Manager, City of Tustin, stated
that the applicant would be required to have signals fully
operational before the Certificate of Occupancy is issued.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked the location of the bus stop shelter.
Mr. Kasdan replied that the applicant is working with Orange County
Transportation Authority for the optimal location; and that a bus
turnout would be installed.
The Director stated that a condition in the resolution would
require installation of a bus stop and shelter with a turnout.
Mr. Barker stated that there is currently a dry cleaner in the
Market Place; that a grocery store will be located at Jamboree and
Irvine Blvd., but has been delayed due to the current economic
conditions.
Commissioner Weil asked for a clarification of the handling of
shopping carts.
Mr. Barker replied that temporary storage facilities are located in
the parking lot; Costco has a full time crew for retrieving
shopping carts, which will be stored inside and that K-Mart uses an
in-store staff to police the parking lots.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:53 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that the Commission was limited to
their abilities; that it is not the Commission's privy to decline
any stores; that the types of stores were the Irvine Company's
decision; that the Master Plan was approved several years ago and
is basically in conformance with the original application; that the
colors on the material board will be used; that he is pleased that
the Irvine Company has dedicated a site at the I-5 and Jamboree for
a hotel, and that the new site should bring in a better hotel; that
extensive landscaping would be installed; that the Commission does
not make a decision based on the tax base; and that he was in favor
of the project as presented.
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February 10, 1992
Page 7
Commissioner Kasalek agreed with Commissioner LeJeune; stated that
the Commission shares the concerns regarding the image of Tustin
Ranch, but noted that the applicant has made extensive changes in
the design and landscaping; that she is confident that the project
will present a good image; that the traffic problems have been
answered; and that a sign has been advertising a retail development
for some time, and it was a logical assumption that there would be
increased traffic; and was in favor of the project.
Commissioner Baker stated that the major concerns of the East
Tustin Specific Plan several years ago were traffic, noise and
pollution, and that the concerns have not materialized; that this
center will be more compatible with the neighborhood; that the
Irvine Company has worked with the City and the developer; and that
a retail center was always intended along with the attractive
luxury hotel.
Commissioner Kasparian stated that he accepts the traffic study
based on the City Engineer not having adverse comments; that value
stores will supply diverse products; that the original rendition of
the plans was not acceptable, but the applicant has now distinctly
improved the project; that Costco is almost 30% lower in height
than what was allowed, which shows sensitivity to the neighborhood;
that they have been encouraged to install drought tolerant plants;
and that the traffic issues were addressed; and was in favor of the
project.
Commissioner Weil stated that there were many rumors over the past
few months; that the Commission was informed that the only
discretion they had was regarding the design review; that the
Irvine Company convinced Costco and K-Mart that the design and
landscaping had to be sensitive to the area; that it will be more
compatible with the neighborhood than the Market Place; that the
delivery areas are as far away as possible from the homes; that the
Irvine Company's original commitment was to bring the best top-
rated value-priced merchandisers to the Market Place, and this is
the best fiscal commitment that the City has made; that she is
confident that the center will be a good neighbor, will be a
welcome addition, and is in favor of the project.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to approve the
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 3005 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to recommend City
Council approval of the Amendment to the East Tustin Development
Agreement by Minute Order. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to approve a
Modification to the Sector 12 Concept Plan and recommend City
Council approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14610 by adopting
Resolution No. 3007 revised as follows:
Exhibit A, Page 7, item b: delete the following: "sheet flow and"
Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to approve Design
Review 91-55 by adopting Resolution No. 3006 revised as follows:
Exhibit A, Page 5, Item 3.3: change the period to a comma at the
end of the sentence and add the following: "unless the Co~m~unity
Development Department is informed in writing by the Tustin
Postmaster and Regional Postmaster that there is no need for a
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February 10, 1992
Page 8
postal station in East Tustin."
Exhibit A, Page 6, Item 3.11: change 3.12b to 3.12B
Motion carried 5-0.
OLD BUSINESS:
NEW BUSINESS:
4. R/UDAT
The Planning Commission held a discussion regarding the R/UDAT
report.
Received and filed.
STAFF CONCERNS:
5. Report on actions taken at February 3, 1992 City Council
meeting
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Kasalek
-Asked if left turn signals such as those in Anaheim were
feasible for Tustin.
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Reported banners at shopping center at corners of Walnut,
Avenue and Newport Avenue.
-Reported on banner at the Key Inn. Asked if extension had
expired.
-Inquired about landscaping at the Crab Cooker.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 9:38 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on February
24, 1992 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial
Way, Tustin.
Kathleen Clancy
Secretary ~/