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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 13, 1992
CALL TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Baker, Le Jeune, Kasparian, Kasalek
and Weil
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1. Minutes of the December 9, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
2. Final Tract Map 13734
APPLICANT/
LAND OWNER:
LOCATION:
DONALD L. BREN COMPANY
5 CIVIC PLAZA, SUITE 100
NEWPORT BEACH, CALIFORNIA 92660
LOTS 9, 10, I, J, AND K OF TRACT 12870, AND PARCELS
3 AND 4 OF LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT 89-'
03, NORTHEAST CORNER OF TUSTIN RANCH
ROAD AND LA COLINA DRIVE.
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
PLANNED COMMUNITY - RESIDENTIAL (PC-R)
MEDIUM-LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY,
TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
EAST
THIS PROJECT IS CONSIDERED MINISTERIALLY EXEMPT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15268(B) OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA).
AUTHORIZATION TO SUBDIVIDE 24.08 ACRES INTO 118
NUMBERED LOTS AND 26 LETTERED LOTS TO ALLOW THE
CONSTRUCTION OF 118 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS UNITS.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 2997, as submitted or revised, recommending
approval of Final Tract Map 13734 to the City Council.
Planning Commission Minutes
January 13, 1992
Page 2
3. Final Tract Map 14295
APPLICANT/
LAND OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THE FIELDSTONE COMPANY
14 CORPORATE PLAZA
NEWPORT BEACH, CALIFORNIA 92660
LOTS 1, AA, BB AND CC OF TRACT 13627
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS CONSIDERED MINISTERIALLY EXEMPT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15268(B) OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA).
AUTHORIZATION TO SUBDIVIDE 18.3 ACRES INTO 77
NUMBERED LOTS AND SEVEN LETTERED LOTS TO ALLOW THE
CONSTRUCTION OF 77 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS UNITS.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 2992, as submitted or revised, recommending
approval of Final Tract Map 14295 to the City Council.
Commissioner Weil moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Continued Public Hearing - Tentative Tract Map 14396, Design
Review 90-49, Conditional Use Permit 91-21 and Hillside Review
91-03
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
FOOTHILL COMMUNITY BUILDERS
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
ATTENTION: MR. DAVE CONLEY
LOTS 12, 13, 24, AND 25 OF TRACT 13627
ESTATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL/HILLSIDE DISTRICT - EAST
TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 351 NUMBERED LOTS AND
90 LETTERED LOTS FOR THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT
OF 351 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS;
2. APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE
PLANS AND RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS;
3. AUTHORIZATION FOR A CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT AND
USE OF THE "CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT" STANDARDS OF
THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN FOR PORTIONS OF
THIS PROJECT; AND
4. APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPTUAL GRADING PLANS FOR
CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF HILLSIDE
REVIEW.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
continue this item to the February 10, 1992 Planning Commission
meeting.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked if an option existed to not develop
the tract at all.
The Director responded that until the impacts are known, that may
not be an option.
Planning Commission Minutes
January 13, 1992
Page 3
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:08 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:09 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Weil seconded to continue the item to
the February 10, 1992 Planning Commission meeting. Motion carried
5-0.
5. Conditional Use Permit 91-31 and Variance 91-20
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
AGENT:
LOCATION:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
GEORGE G. RANDELL
1608 NORTH MAIN STREET
SANTA ANA, CA 92701
INFLUENTIAL SQUARE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
CONDOMINIUM MANAGEMENT COMPANY
1818 WEST CHAPMAN AVENUE
ORANGE, CA 92666
17212-17282 NISSON ROAD
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 11) PURSUANT TO THE
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15311 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO VARY FROM SECTIONS 9271I(1) (a) AND
(b) OF THE TUSTIN CITY CODE TO ALLOW A 7'-6" IN
HEIGHT FENCE WITHIN THE FRONT-YARD SETBACK WITHIN
ALL REAR AND SIDE PROPERTY LINES AND TO AUTHORIZE A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO SECTIONS
9271I(1) (d) TO ALLOW A 7'-6" IN HEIGHT FENCE ON THE
REAR HALF OF THE LOT
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 91-31 and Variance 91-20.
Presentation: Becky Stone, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the Fire Department reviewed the
fencing plans and if they have ever denied a 7 foot 6 inch fence.
Staff replied that the Fire Department and the Police Department
reviewed the access gates to determine if they meet emergency
requirements; that the gate has a Knox box Fire Department access;
and that there were no comments from the Fire Department.
The Director commented that the Police Department supports the
height for additional security.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if there were any regulations regarding
the width between the bars surrounding the pool; and noted that her
concern stems from the drowning of an 11 month old child who gained
access to a pool through a smaller opening.
Staff replied that the fence meets the requirements of the Uniform
Swimming Pool Code; that the building department has reviewed for
compliance and will again at plan check; and that the staff will
review the width.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if this was a fence around the road as
well as surrounding the property and noted that it was odd that the
driveways were not gated.
Staff replied that the gates were at the property line for a
minimum stacking distance; were redesigned to allow access to the
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January 13, 1992
Page 4
clubhouse only; and that all residences and driveways are behind
the gates; and that the 7 foot 6 inch height may be visibly more
appealing.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:20 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:21 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that high fences were allowed in other
areas.
Commissioner Baker stated that he agreed with the request, but was
concerned with the fortress look.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Le Jeune seconded to
Conditional Use Permit 91-31 and Variance 91-20 by
Resolution No. 2994 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
approve
adopting
6. Variance 91-17 and Conditional Use Permit 91-28
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
RAY AND MARY MADRID
170 SOUTH "B" STREET
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
170 SOUTH "B" STREET
(R-I) SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL/(CR)
RESOURCE OVERLAY DISTRICT
CULTURAL
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
1. APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A SECOND
SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE ON A 7,500 SQUARE FOOT
LOT WHERE 12,000 SQUARE FEET IS REQUIRED, LOT
WIDTH OF 50 FEET WHERE 60 FEET IS REQUIRED,
REAR YARD SETBACK OF 12 FEET WHERE 20 FEET IS
REQUIRED AND WITH LESS THAN THE REQUIRED TWO-
CAR GARAGE; AND
2. APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
AUTHORIZING AN EXISTING DETACHED ACCESSORY
STRUCTURE BE CONSIDERED A SECOND SINGLE FAMILY
STRUCTURE.
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Commission.
Presentation: Anne E. Bonner, Associate Planner
Commissioner Weil asked if the unit was presently occupied.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if they would be setting a precedent
if they were to approve the granny housing or a guest room; and if
the variance was granted would it stay with the property.
Staff replied negatively regarding a precedent; that similar
circumstances were recently approved; and that it would stay with
the property.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:29 p.m.
Jeffrey Manchester, Century Mortgage, stated that the lender feels
that the granny housing regulations are discriminatory; and that
without cooking facilities the unit cannot be rented which reduces
the value.
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January 13, 1992
Page 5
Ray Madrid, 170 S. B Street, applicant, stated that his request
stems from the requirement by the lender that the house be able to
be rebuilt in case it is destroyed; that he only wants the variance
for refinancing and replacement; that the house is currently rented
to his daughter: that it was difficult to rent to senior citizens
who need extra care and would require an additional person to
reside; and that the size is comfortable for an adult with possibly
one child; and that the lender does not value it as highly if it is
only a guest room.
Commissioner Kasparian stated that he was concerned with setting a
precedent.
Mr. Madrid replied that if there were no cooking facilities, it
could not be used for his parents.
The Director provided a history of the existing use and stated that
it was a legal non-conforming use, zoned C-I; that it can remain in
perpetuity unless destroyed by more than 50%; that once the non-
conformity is removed by approving a variance, the precedent is set
and the neighboring properties would be affected; that in reviewing
the Old Town area, it appears that there are no similar situations
in the R-1 district; that the lender indicated a concern regarding
discrimination, but they are mandated by State law regarding granny
flats; and that the City could provide assurance to the lender.
Commissioner Kasparian stated that he would not agree to a guest
room that would require removal of the cooking facility.
Larry Layne, 325 W. 2nd Street, neighbor of applicant, spoke in
favor of the application; and stated that it was important to have
this type of housing now and in the future.
Alan Gandall, Century Mortgage, stated that it was underwritten to
FNMA/FMAC guidelines; and that a letter stating that the unit can
be rebuilt 100% in a non-conforming manner will suffice.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that it was not a question of being
able to refinance, but for how much.
Mr. Gandell stated that if the property is changed in any manner,
it affects the appraisal.
Commissioner Baker stated that it would not be FNMA qualified, and
that the applicant would have to apply elsewhere at a higher rate.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:47 p.m.
Commissioner Weil stated that she would approve the granny housing,
but felt that the parking might be inadequate.
Commissioner Kasparian stated he was not in favor of granting the
variance because he was concerned with setting a precedent and he
was uncertain why the applicant wants the variance.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that they would also be setting a
precedent regarding allowing financial gain for the applicant by
approval of the variance; and suggested the applicant could apply
for a conventional loan.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that she could approve either granny
housing or the guest room.
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January 13, 1992
Page 6
The Director suggested continuance to the next meeting since there
was no resolution for denial.
Commissioner Baker asked for a consensus on denying the
application: Le Jeune, Kasparian; and a consensus for a granny
flat: Kasalek, Weil, and Baker.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to continue the
item to the January 27, 1992 Planning Commission meeting. Motion
carried 5-0.
Conditional Use Permit 91-25, Design Review 91-44 and Siqn
Code Exception 91-01
APPLICANT: CHEVRON U.S.A, INC.
P.O. BOX 2833
LA HABRA, CA 90632
REPRESENTATIVE/
AGENT: GREER ENGINEERING CO.
2323 W. LINCOLN AVENUE #119
ANAHEIM, CA 92801
OWNER: SHIRLEY GRISET
27245 AURORA DRIVE
HEMET, CA 92344
13052 NEWPORT AVENUE
COMMERCIAL RETAIL (C-I) DISTRICT
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT, PURSUANT TO SECTION 15302 (CLASS 2)
1. TO AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A GASOLINE
SERVICE STATION FACILITY AND VSAT ANTENNAE;
AND
2. TO ALLOW THE REDISTRIBUTION OF THE MAXIMUM
ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SECONDARY BUSINESS
IDENTIFICATION WALL OR CANOPY SIGNS, AND TO
PERMIT THE INCREASE OF THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA
FOR THE BUSINESS IDENTIFICATION MONUMENT FROM
THE PERMITTED 32-SQUARE FEET TO 39.27-SQUARE
FEET.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following action: 1. Approve Conditional Use Permit 91-
25 and Design Review 91-44 by adoption of Resolution No. 2995, as
submitted or revised; and 2. Adopt Resolution No. 2996, as
submitted or revised: A. Approving the Sign Code Exception 91-01
request to redistribute the maximum allowable square footage of
secondary business identification wall or canopy signs as
illustrated in Exhibit B of Resolution 2996 attached thereto; and
B. Denying the Sign Code Exception 91-01 request to increase the
maximum sign area for the business identification monument from the
permitted 32-square feet to 39.27-square feet.
Presentation: Joann Perry, Associate Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the area to be
dedicated; and asked how staff verifies the approval of the AQMD.
Staff replied that at plan check they require a letter of approval
from AQMD.
Staff made a change to the staff report stating that the existing
tanks were fine, that they were only providing new piping.
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January 13, 1992
Page 7
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:18 p.m.
Bob Fiscus, Greer Engineering, representing Chevron USA, Inc.,
thanked staff for their hard work and the excellent job; stated
that the station is old; that the current lease expires in 2001
leaving them a limited time to build the new station and amortize
the cost to break even on the lease. He continued with stating
that Chevron wants to remain on the site; that they are adding
landscaping; and that they concur with staff's recommendations,
excepting the monument sign; that State law states that the sign
must be visible from all four directions; that the sign would only
be there for 9 years, when the site would be demolished and
redeveloped; that the site is designed so that the moving the
sidewalks in case of rededication will not affect the station; and
that they are retaining the existing fiberglass tank and installing
double wall piping with a leak detection system.
Commissioner Baker asked if the VSAT antenna was the same as at the
station on Nisson and Newport.
Mr. Fiscus affirmed; and noted that a person would have to be above
the station or 18 feet up for it to be visible.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the configuration has changed
considerably relating to access for tankers; and asked for a
clarification of a flush traffic signal box.
Mr. Fiscus replied that they have taken the tankers into account
with the layout; stated that the box is flush with the sidewalk.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if there would be any garage work; and
if the tanks were vented.
Mr. Fiscus replied that there would not be any garage work; that
there would be a tank top capture system with a vent back into the
tank; and that everything is done within AQMD standards.
Commissioner Kasparian asked who would respond if the alarm sounds
regarding leakage; and if the system has a self-test.
Mr. Fiscus replied that, in case of a leak, the station operator
would call Maintenance and shut down the tank; and that the system
continually checks for vapors and leakage.
Commissioner Kasparian asked why they were placing the 24-hour sign
where it could not be seen as well as if it were by the cashier.
Mr. Fiscus responded that they were limited by the amount of
fascia, and thought that it would make the front look cluttered.
Ken Gunn, Development Specialist, Chevron USA, Inc., stated that
the staff was outstanding; that in 9 years, they will be spending
$500,000; that there monument sign request is for a standard C-45
sign; and that it will only be in place for 9 years.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that the size of the letters appeared
to be approximately 12 inches.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the height is different than if using
the smaller sign.
Mr. Gunn replied that a C-30 sign is 18-20 square feet; and that as
the sign enlarges, so do the letters.
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Commissioner Weil asked if all companies make standard small,
medium and large signs.
Mr. Gunn responded that Chevron makes a limited number of sign
sizes; and that it was not economical to create a variety.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if they have built custom signs in the
past.
Mr. Gunn replied negatively, but that they would have to for this
project.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:45 p.m.
Commissioner Weil suggested adding "mostly" on Page 3, Section E,
Paragraph 2 of Resolution 2995, as moved.
Commissioner Kasparian was concerned with setting a precedent
regarding the monument sign.
The Director recommended that there are many corner stations in the
City, and that the Commission should decide what is best for the
Community.
Commissioner Kasparian suggested that the extra 7 square feet would
not make an appreciable difference; and that since it is two-sided,
that is more reason not to grant the additional square footage.
Commissioner Kasalek
recommendation.
agreed and was in favor of staff's
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that no matter how large the sign, it
would not be seen clearly from Newport.
Commissioner Baker commented that a great deal of research was done
on the new Sign Code; that this is one of the busiest intersections
in the County; and that the re-design of the station would create
new customers.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasalek seconded to approve
Conditional Use Permit 91-25 and Design Review 91-44 by adopting
Resolution No. 2995 revised as follows:
Page 3, Section E, Paragraph 2:
"concealed".
insert "mostly" before the word
Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasalek seconded to adopt Resolution
No. 2996, as submitted, approving the Sign Code Exception 91-01
request to redistribute the maximum allowable square footage of
secondary business identification wall or canopy signs as illus-
trated in Exhibit B of Resolution 2996 attached thereto; and deny
the Sign Code Exception 91-01 request to increase the maximum sign
area for the business identification monument from the permitted
32-square feet to 39.27-square feet. Motion carried 5-0.
Modification to a Condition of Approval to Allow a Six-Month
Extension of Design Review 88-70 and Variance 89-19
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve a: 1. Modification to Condition No. 10.1 of Resolution
No. 2728 to allow a 12-month extension of Tentative Tract Map No.
14022 by adopting Resolution No. 2993, as submitted or revised; and
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Page 9
2. Modification to Condition No. 1.1 of Resolution No. 2914 to
allow a six-month extension of Design Review 88-70 and Variance 89-
19 by adopting Resolution No. 2985, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:52 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:53 p.m.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasparian seconded to approve modification
to Condition No. 10.1 of Resolution No. 2728 to allow a 12-month
extension of Tentative Tract Map No. 14022 by adopting Resolution
No. 2993, as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasparian seconded to approve modification
to Condition No. 1.1 of Resolution No. 2914 to allow a six-month
extension of Design Review 88-70 and Variance 89-19 by adopting
Resolution No. 2985 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
OLD BUSINESS:
9. Prospect Avenue/Seventeenth Street Turning Movement
Received and filed.
10. Cable Television Services
Received and filed.
11. First Street Specific Plan Workshop
The workshop was confirmed for February 10, 1992 at 5:30 p.m.
in the Council Chambers conference room.
NEW BUSINESS:
12. Request for Temporary Sale of Strawberries - McWhinney Berries
The Commission discussed the request and made a recommendation
to the applicant to use the Conditional Use Permit process by
a vote of 3-2. Chairman Baker and Commissioner Weil were the
dissenting votes.
STAFF CONCEP~NS:
13. Report on actions taken at January
meetinq
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
COF~4ISSION CONCERI~S:
Commissioner Kasalek
6, 1992 City Council
-Asked that staff explain the option the City chose for the
East Tustin Corridor.
Commissioner Kasparian
-Informed staff of a real estate sign in disrepair on
northeast corner of Seventeenth and Prospect
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January 13, 1992
Page 10
ADJOURNME~ .-
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 9:55 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on January
27, 1992 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial
Way, Tustin.
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Cha'irman
Kathleen Clancy
Secretary