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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 25~ 1991
CALL TO ORDER: 6:58 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Baker, Kasparian, Kasalek and Weil
Absent: Le Jeune
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1. Minutes of the November 12, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Weil seconded to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. Amendment No. 3 to Conditional Use Permit 88-8
APPLICANT:
CITY OF TUSTIN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
15222 DEL AMO AVENUE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MANCHESTER DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
2100 S.E. MAIN ST, SUITE 400
IRVINE, CA 92714
ATTENTION: MR. WILLIAM IMPARATO
17582, 17592, 17602 AND 17612 E. SEVENTEENTH STREET
PLANNED COMMUNITY (COMMERCIAL) (PC-C)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO SECTION
15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO AMEND CONDITION NO. 1.3 OF
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION 2710, REDUCING THE
NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FROM 273 TO 264,
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November 25, 1991
Page 2
BASED UPON A PARKING DEMAND ANALYSIS, AND MODIFY
SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO ACCOMMODATE A CITY WELL
SITE
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Amendment No. 3 to Conditional Use Permit 88-8 by adopting
Resolution No. 2979, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked if there was anything on the well site
that would interfere with parking; and where the access for
maintenance would be; and if the action would be null and void if
there was any problems with the action.
The Director replied that the current well site would be the only
area needed by the City and that there would be a construction
easement for access for improvements; that it would be gated with
a small building in a walled area; that it would be accessed
through the parking lot and maintained from Vandenberg; a purchase
agreement has been executed; and that there is a termination clause
in the ordinance.
Commissioner Weil asked why the landscaping restoration was not in
the conditions.
Staff replied that the since the City is doing the construction, it
is part of the purchase contract.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:08 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:09 p.m.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he has never seen the parking lot
overcrowded.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Kasalek seconded to approve Amendment
No. 3 to Conditional Use Permit 88-8 by adopting Resolution No.
2979, as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
3. Desiqn Review 89-44 and Variance 90-1~
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MR. AMAURI NICASIO
13651 GREEN VALLEY
TUSTIN, CA 92630
MR. AMAURI NICASIO
13651 GREEN VALLEY
MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
(2,700-SQUARE FOOT)
(R-3) DISTRICT
CLASS 3 CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION
TO ALLOW A VARIANCE FROM TUSTIN CITY CODE SECTION
9271(Q) TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM BUILDING SITE AREA
FOR MULTIPLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS FROM 7,000-SQUARE
FEET TO 6,783-SQUARE FEET TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT
OF TWO (2) DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE
SUBJECT SITE WHICH IS SUBSTANDARD IN SIZE.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
continue Design Review 89-44 and Variance 90-11 by minute motion.
Presentation: Joann Perry, Associate Planner
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November 25, 1991
Page 3
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to continue Design Review
89-44 and Variance 90-11 to the December 9, 1991 Planning
Commission meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 4-0.
4. Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14371 and Desiqn Review 91-~1
APPLICANT:
LANDOWNER:
GLENCREST
23696 BIRTCHER DRIVE
EL TORO, CA 92630
SAN RAMO
23696 BIRTCHER DRIVE
EL TORO, CA 92630
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
LOTS 26 OF TRACT 13627
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 55 NUMBERED AND THREE
LETTERED LOTS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
PURPOSES.
2. APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN ANDARCHITECTURAL DESIGN
OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following actions: 1. Approve the Environmental
Determination for the project by adopting Resolution No. 2980; 2.
Approve Design Review 91-11 by adopting Resolution No. 2981, as
submitted or revised; 3. Recommend City Council approval of
Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14371 by adopting Resolution No. 2982,
as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Becky Stone, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Weil asked if there was response to notice; and how
many long driveways are in the project.
Staff replied that there was one call that has since been discussed
with the Irvine Company; that some driveways have an L-turn drive,
some have 20 foot straight drives, about 10% are less than 19 feet
long, and the 34 guest spaces are longer than 20 feet.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the front yard
setback specifications as noted in Attachment A of Exhibit A; that
he liked the emphasis on the 5 foot meandering sidewalk and the
judicious placement of utility boxes.
Staff replied that the property line is taken from behind the
sidewalk; that some plans allow for a 5 foot setback for the garage
and a 20 foot setback for the living space.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the landscaping
requirements of the models as noted on Page 6 of Resolution No.
2981.
Staff responded that the identifying items requiring permits are
listed for contractors who landscape across property lines on the
models.
Commissioner Weil asked for a clarification of the discussion
regarding mailboxes; and if they would be normal size to
accommodate large amounts of mail.
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November 25, 1991
Page 4
Staff replied that aluminum mailboxes without decoration have not
been approved; that staff wants them with more decoration; that
this can be approved at Plan Check; and that size is at the
discretion of Community Development.
The Director stated that the Postal Service requires a curbside
grouping; that what is proposed is not the degree of quality that
the project requires; that staff wants a redesign which will be
approved at plan check.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:24 p.m.
Judy Almquist, 2281 Pavilion, President of the Committee for
Compatibility, was concerned about the berm's impact on the privacy
of the existing homes; that 9 months ago they met with the builder
who has rectified most of their concerns; that they are concerned
about the homes with wrought iron fencing with a direct view of the
existing backyards; that they would like the Commission to address
the issue of windows, balconies and fencing; and asked for a
postponement of the item to allow time for seeking legal counsel.
Commissioner Kasparian asked the location of Mrs. Almquist's home.
Mrs. Almquist replied that she is representing the owners along the
berm and that she is at the very edge of the berm.
Robert Frakes, representing the developer, stated that they tried
to accommodate the residents by lowering the height of homes and
switched living quarters to the front of properties; that the berm
was installed as a temporary drainage device and would be reduced;
that the slump wall is 2 feet high so as not to eliminate the views
for the new residents; that they adjusted the driveways to vary
from 5 feet to 20 feet to vary the street scene; that they would
change the mailbox design; and that they would not like to postpone
the project.
Commissioner Kasparian asked how the applicant created 76
additional parking spaces; and asked what the steepest grade was
from the homes to the lot line.
Mr. Frakes replied that it was from the street count and third car
garage; and that there is no slope greater than 2:1.
Commissioner Baker asked if Mr. Frakes was part of the group that
met at the tennis club; and noted that he was concerned about
preserving compatibility with the existing neighborhood.
Mr. Frakes replied negatively, and that he has not met with a
homeowner group.
Staff replied that this project was not within the hillside
district and is a different project than what was subject to the
community meeting.
The Director noted that notices were sent to homeowners
associations and residents voicing concerns regarding the hillside
areas at previous meetings.
Thomas Crosby, 2211 Pavilion, asked the Commission to rethink the
project in view of the recent fire in Northern California due to a
decaying forest of eucalyptus trees; that the area was built with
pines and eucalyptus and is a "bom~ ready to explode"; that the
Irvine Company is indifferent to the risk; asked why they were
allowing new homes to be built before the area is cleaned of
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November 25, 1991
Page 5
debris; that the new homes are being built next to the eucalyptus
grove; asked why they are repeating the same mistake of allowing
similar trees to be installed with all of the shake shingle roofs
still remaining. He continued with stating that he fears that the
proposed wall will limit his access to the wooded area; and
suggested 28 foot setbacks to allow access along the drainage
ditch.
Norm Smith, Irvine Company, stated that they worked at length with
the owners and that fair and reasonable changes were made; that
they share the concern about the fire danger and that there is a
plan with the Community Development Department to clear debris and
plant with fire resistant trees.
Commissioner Weil asked if the trees eluded to were on the Irvine
Company property.
Mr. Smith affirmed.
Commissioner Baker asked their plans for replanting.
Mr. Smith replied that they would replace with a reforestation of
eucalyptus which would be in irrigated areas and maintained by
homeowners associations.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:53 p.m.
The Director stated that the applicant has complied with every
agreement made with the community; that the berm was installed for
temporary drainage and would be reconfigured when the storm drain
was completed; that there will be a wall/wrought iron fence along
the southerly property line on the project; that the units have
been directed away from other units; that they will be large units
needing window coverage with vantage points to the south; that the
site was allowed to have 5 units per acre, but the Irvine Company
reached a written agreement with the owners for 4 units per acre
with single story buildings along the western boundary; that the
project exceeds the East Tustin Specific Plan; and that every
concession agreed to with adjacent residents and the Racquet Hill
Homeowners Association has completed. She continued with stating
that the Irvine Company is working on reducing the fire risk by
removing the dead and decayed trees; that irrigated eucalyptus is
not a fire hazard and that the new trees being installed to the
north will be irrigated and maintained by a future homeowners
association; and that each concern was adequately considered.
Commissioner Kasparian asked which homes would be single-story.
The Director replied that lots 14-25 were single-story; that the
units that look to the south will have view opportunities; that
they will not look directly into any yards; that all units are
below adjacent County elevations; and that the written agreement
required that there be no access into this project from Racquet
Hill and that commitment has been complied with.
Commissioner Weil asked for a clarification of the berm; and that
this applicant has shown tremendous sensitivity to the neighbors.
The Director replied that the berm was created to eliminate sheet
flow of water until infrastructure was installed.
Commissioner Kasparian stated that the concessions were
considerable; and that he hoped that the homeowners would be
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November 25, 1991
Page 6
satisfied even though they did not get everything they were
seeking.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasa~ek seconded to approve the
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 2980. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to approve Design Review
91-11 by adopting Resolution No. 2981, as submitted. Motion
carried 4-0.
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasalek seconded to recommend City Council
approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14371 by adopting
Resolution No. 2982 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
OLD BUSINESS:
NEW BUSINESS:
5. Design Review 91-49
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CONTINENTAL SIGNS
7541 SANTA RITA CIRCLE - D
STANTON, CALIFORNIA 90680
TUSTIN AUTO SPA, INC.
11980 RED HILL AVENUE
SANTA ANA, CALIFORNIA 92705
1501 NISSON ROAD, TUSTIN
CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 11) PURSUANT TO
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15311 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
TO APPROVE THE DESIGN OF A SECONDARY IDENTIFICATION
WALL SIGN WITH EXPOSED NEON TUBING AND A
SUPPLEMENTAL WALL SIGN FOR THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED
CAR WASH AT 1501 NISSON ROAD
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Design Review 91-49 by adopting Resolution No. 2983, as
submitted or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Weil asked if the applicant reviewed a copy of the new
Sign Code.
Staff affirmed and noted that he was fully aware it.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that the applicant wants "hand car
wash" on freeway side and "Cafe Auto Spa" on Nisson and asked if
that was why the freeway side was identified as the primary side;
asked about the depth of the neon signs.
Staff replied that the applicant requested switching the primary
and secondary signage; that the issue was with the supplemental
sign area and that they are allowed 25%; that they could include
Cafe Auto Spa and Hand Car Wash in a 75 square foot sign. Staff
continued with noting that the mounting detail of the sign can was
unusual; that staff is proposing that the sign cans be textured and
treated as part of the building.
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November 25, 1991
Page 7
The Director stated that they can successfully embellish textured
cans with detail.
Commissioner Weil noted that Item 1.5 of Exhibit A allows the
applicant to add 56 square feet of signage, and asked if the
conditions in Exhibit A would apply to the new sign.
Staff affirmed.
Nancy Gemaehlich, Continental Signs, stated that they have complied
with staff's direction; that they suggest a full size box with
texcoat treatment; that they would like to not install the
moulding; and would like to make them solid as part of the
building.
Richard Gall, Jacuzzi Development Company, noted that Item 1.7 b
should be eliminated.
Commissioner Weil commended the applicant on the approach to the
project.
Mr. Gall stated that his brother and Gene Tutt are the owners of
the project and are very happy with it.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to approve Design
Review 91-49 by adopting Resolution No. 2983 revised as follows:
Exhibit A, delete Condition 1.7 B.
Motion carried 4-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
Se
Report on actions taken at November 18, 1991 City Council
meetinq
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
COMMISSION CONCERNS~
Commissioner Weil
-Commended Christine Shingleton and Daniel
presentation of Item No. 4.
Fox on the
-Asked about why conditions regarding the landscaping on Item
#2 were not included in the resolution.
Staff replied that the conditions regarding the landscaping
were already part of the purchase agreement.
Commissioner Kasparian
-Asked about the status of the Catellus project.
-Asked if staff could keep the Planning Commission informed of
the status of the Marine Base Closure.
Commissioner Kasalek
-Wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
Chairman Baker
-Thanked staff for drafting the letter to the Public Works
Department regarding Planning Commission meeting attendance.
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November 25, 1991
Page 8
-Voiced concern about Planning Commission signage
Centennial Way during the civic center renovation
at
i~D~OURNNEN~:
Commissioner Weil moved, Kasparian seconded to adjourn the meeting
at 8:40 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on December
9, 1991 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial
Way, Tustin.
Chairman
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Kathleen Clancy
Secretary