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MEETING
JUNE 24, 3.993.
CALL TO ORDER:
7:06 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGI~CE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Le Jeune, Shaheen, Baker, Kasparian,
Kasalek
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1. Minutes of the June 19, 1991 planning CommissioD meetinq.
Modification to a Condition of Approva% to Allow a Six-Month
Extension of Desiqn Review 88-70 and Variance 89-19
Recommendation: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve a modification to Condition No. 1.3 of Resolution No. 2729
to allow a six-month extension to Design Review 88-70 by adopting
Resolution No. 2914, as submitted or revised.
Commissioner Baker moved, Kasparian seconde~ to approve the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HE~RINGS:
Tentative Tract Map 14397, Desiqn Review 90-50 and Hillside
Review 91-01
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
FOOTHILL COMMUNITY BUILDERS (THE IRVINE COMPANY)
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
LOTS 9, 10, Y, DD AND A PORTION OF PARCEL B OF
TRACT 13627
ESTATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL/HILLSIDE DISTRICT - EAST
TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
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June 24, 1991
Page 2
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 118 NUMBERED LOTS AND
44 LETTERED LOTS BY SUBDIVIDING APPROXIMATELY
63.6 ACRES FOR THE PURPOSE OF LAND SALES FOR
THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
2. APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLANS AND
RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
3. APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPTUAL GRADING PLANS FOR
CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF HILLSIDE
REVIEW.
Recommendation: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following actions: 1. Continue these items to a date
certain and provide direction to staff and the applicant to make
revisions to the conceptual grading plans that would incorporate
the feasible mitigation measures identified in certified EIR (85-2)
for the East Tustin Specific Plan and those requirements stated for
Hillside Review in City Code Section 8914(c)(8), the East Tustin
Specific Plan Section 2.13 and 2.14 and the city's Grading Manual
Section 10.0; and 2. Request that the applicant agree on the
public record to waive the 50-day time limit, as required by
Section 66452.1(a) of the California Government Code, which
requires that a recommending body (the Tustin Planning Commission)
take action on a tentative map within 50 days from the application
was accepted as complete, which establishes a time frame for the
Planning Commission to render a decision on the project by July 17,
1991. Should the applicant decline waiving this requirement, it is
recommended that the Planning Commission continue the item to July
8, 1991 to render a decision.
Presentation: Anne E. Bonner, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the City was amenable to the second
submittal.
Staff commented that the first submittal grading did not reflect
the guidelines of the Grading Manual, the Hillside Review, and the
Tustin City Code; that the second submittal was a step in the right
direction; and that they have lessened the number of units, but the
number of pads is not necessarily an issue.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if all of the submittals propose the
flat-top grading technique.
Staff affirmed.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:24 p.m.
Norm Smith, representing the Irvine Company, stated that they
submitted the application for lots 9 and 10 in November 1990 to be
marketed to builders in small groupings or for individual custom
homes; that they are in agreement with the guidelines of the ETSP
and the Tustin City Codes on most of the proposal, except the
topography of F Drive. He also stated that they want to proceed as
quickly as possible, so continuance is not an alternative; that the
topography to be preserved was clearly identified in the Specific
Plan and the grading manual; and that the application lives up to
the requirements.
Jay Pierce, representing the Irvine Company, stated that in the
development of the Specific Plan, the City only addressed "the
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June 24, 1991
Page 3
knoll" and the Peter's Canyon Ridge and no other significant
features or ridges as areas to be preserved; that they are slightly
under-building the area; that they meet all other guidelines and
have met the intent of the Specific Plan; and that the application
should be approved as it is.
~rnie Vasqu~z, representing McClarren, Vasquez and Associates,
stated that they intend to preserve the natural terrain with a
small sense of neighborhood; that they intend to keep the "nose" of
the knoll in a natural state and work around the formation of the
land; that the profile of the buildings will be kept down; and that
the streets curving around the terrain and the shorter cul-de-sacs
are intended to work with the terrain of the site.
Mr. Smith commented that the Irvine Company has lived up to its
promises; they have provided the criteria for preservation of
specific topographic features, the Peter's Canyon Ridge; and they
selectively treat areas not designated in the guidelines as areas
not slated for preservation. He continued with noting that they
believe that mitigation measures made are feasible to the project;
and offered a fifth option by noting that the project could be
found consistent with the applicable codes; and offered a list of
resolutions and list of conditions for approval.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:35 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeu~e asked if there are any other sensitive
topographic features that will be coming before the Commission.
Staff replied that the site falls within the Hillside District;
that the Peter's Canyon Ridge falls outside of the tract
boundaries; that there are other hills to be considered in future
tracts and that this is the first builder level review in the
hillside district.
The Director commented that there are specific provisions in the
ETSP, the Grading Manual, and the Grading Ordinance that require
preservation of certain ridge lines and "the knoll"; that there are
other standards that relate to other areas where land forms should
be protected. She provided language from a separate section of the
ETSP requiring the preservation or enhancement of important vistas;
maintaining landform characteristics; noting that typical padded
lots should be avoided on sloped areas of greater than 25% and
grading should be minimized; structures should be sited so that the
roof slope falls below the natural grade; buildings and alignments
of roadways should be sited to maximize public visual exposure away
from natural visual features; and that where level pads are
required, they should conform to the natural contours. She
continued by stating that these are examples of standards in each
of the noted documents that went beyond the ridgeline issue; that
there will be other landforms in the Hillside District that could
be affected by this evening's decision. She also noted that the
Irvine Company should be commended for their efforts made elsewhere
within the tract, but there is a more sensitive approach that could
be applied in the vicinity of 'F' Drive.
Commiss$oner Le Jeune asked what was attractive about the second
submittal and how did it differ.
Staff replied that the second submittal was not necessarily more
attractive; that the cul-de-sac was shortened and brought back away
from the knoll; and that the knoll would still be reduced in
height, but there would be more of the natural point left.
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June 24, 1991
Page 4
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what would be considered as an
attractive option.
The Director replied that there are a variety of technical ways to
deal with the design issues; that they are not proposing that the
City design the tract, but want the issue addressed more
sensitively; that the option presented by Mr. Smith is not
applicable this evening as staff cannot provide resolutions of
approval without discussing it with the Public Works Department.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the area of the
second submittal.
The Director replied that they compared the first and second
submittals and noted that it is still a flat pad, but is carried
back further on the slope.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if one of the options would be to
terrace the lots and maintain the natural topography of the knoll.
Staff replied that smaller pads instead of one large pad is
encouraged.
Commissioner Kasparian asked what the difference was between "the
knoll" and this knoll and why this one was not identified as
needing to be preserved.
The Director replied that "the knoll" is part of the area
designated for the community park site north of the golf course.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if it was more location than physical
differences.
The Director replied that there are ridge lines and knolls at a
higher elevation with greater view potential, but that "the knoll"
was considered as a public vista.
Commissioner Baker commented that a knoll that they took a field
trip to visit was not yet mentioned and that this is not "the
knoll".
The Director replied that "the knoll" that is capitalized in the
Plan is the one with the grapefruit trees, but it is not the
highest point where development would occur within East Tustin.
Staff commented that the area that Commissioner Baker was referring
to was on Lot 13 which is in the Hillside District and has not been
dealt with yet.
Commissioner Baker noted that this is in precedence to future
knolls.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he has read the ETSP, the Grading
Manual, and the Hillside Review document; that it differentiates
between the ridgeline and "the knoll" and important vistas; that he
visited the site and noticed that this vista is prominent and
qualifies as an important vista; and that leveling off the top is
inconsistent with the intent of the documents, which is to maintain
the topography for the interest of the general public. He
continued with stating that if the top is flattened, it will be
beneficial to the 8 people on top, but does nothing for others in
the subdivision; and that he would not approve the plan to flatten
the top as proposed.
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June 24, 1991
Page 5
Commissioner Kasalek agreed and noted that she has been in meetings
on this issue, and spent time at the site; that she feels that the
knoll is a significant extension of Peter's Canyon Ridge and is
very visible from Jamboree Road; that it will make a very negative
impact for the surrounding people; that she appreciates that the
Irvine Company is in the business to make money and provide quality
homes, but would prefer a compromise by them of providing stepped-
up lots that are more sensitive to the hillside and retaining the
knoll but still providing prime property.
Commiss$oners Shaheen and Baker concurred.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked who would be representing the Irvine
Company in regards to the 50-day time limit.
The Director suggested re-opening the public hearing to request the
applicant to waive the 50-day period.
The Public Hearing was re-opened at 7:52 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked the applicant to agree to waive the 50-
day time limit as required by Section 66452-1A of the California
Government Code.
Mr. Smith responded that they would not like to waive the 50-day
period. He then offered additional comments regarding outstanding
mitigation measures by noting that all measures were implemented in
some manner, but not all were implemented in all areas; that F
Drive has small cluster lots instead of large builder pads allowing
for preservation of several acres of major natural slope areas
which would be destroyed in the conventional non-hillside approach.
He continued with noting that roadways follow contours with reduced
design speed standards wherever possible; but on F Drive modified
road standards would have little or no positive grading impact;
that the proposed grading would provide over 18 acres of open space
that would be retained in a natural state or landscaped to provide
the appearance of a natural hillside; that the clustering of the
lots on F Drive as opposed to the natural grading approach has
maximized the preservation of a major natural slope area. He also
stated that preservation of the Peter's Canyon Ridge will provide
screening of the project for homes from the west; that the natural
slope surrounding F Drive will be enhanced with landscaping; and
that the nose of the knoll will blend into the surrounding homes;
that the small cluster of lots on F Drive avoids the surrounding
natural slope areas which are generally steeper than 25%; that
typical padded lots would have flattened this entire area, which
they do not want. He continued with noting that the entire site is
designed with the intent of siting buildings and roadways to
conform with the natural topography by minimizing grading; that the
cluster of lots on F Drive are to be graded to a daylight line;
that the homes will conform to and be reflective of the hill mass;
and that the proposed project grading is reflective of the natural
topography by creating small clusters rather than leveling off the
entire site as might be expected in an unsensitive flatland site.
The Director commented that staff would like the responses to the
applicant's positions on the items to reflect the data and factual
evidence provided on the record in the staff report.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:00 p.m.
The Director stated that with the applicant's decision to not waive
the 50-day period there are two options available to the
Commission: 1) the matter could be continued to July 8 with
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June 24, 1991
Page 6
request of the applicant to submit an alternate proposal this week;
or 2) adopt Resolutions 2915 and 2916 denying the Hillside Review
and Tentative Tract Map.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the options.
The Director replied that one option would be to deny the Tract Map
and the Hillside review, whereby the applicant could appeal to the
City Council or submit a revised proposal; or the Commission could
continue the item to July 8 to meet the 50-day time limit and then
decide to consider another proposal or to approve or deny the
project.
Commissioner Baker asked if it was physically possible for the
applicant to submit a new proposal.
The Director replied that the applicant might need to be referred
to, but that in staff discussion with The Company there has been
little willingness to compromise as evidenced by there reluctance
to waive the 50-day time limit.
Commissioner Baker suggested that this should be continued to July
8 to keep the discussion open.
Commissioner Baker moved, Shaheen seconded to continue the item to
July 8, 1991 and instructing Irvine Company to prepare an
alternative hilltop design in vicinity of "F" Drive. Motion
carried 4-1. Opposed by Commissioner Kasalek.
OLD BUSINESS~
4. Traffic Controller Cabinet
Recommendation: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 2916 to establish policy guidelines for
reviewing public improvement plans for traffic signal controller
cabinets.
Presentation: Sara J. Pashalides, Associate Planner
The Director commented that the Public Works Department suggested
postponing this item.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to approve a minute
action to continue the item until July 8, 1991 and to request a
representative from the Public Works Department be present at that
meeting. Motion carried 4-0.
NEW BUSINESS:
STAFF CONCERNS:
5. Report on actions taken at June 17, 1991 city Council meeting.
Staff reported on the subject agenda.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if there would be a mailing regarding
water saving devices.
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June 24, 1991
Page 7
The Director replied that there will be a brochure highlighting the
devices for the public that want to waive from the consumption
ordinance; and that other mailings would depend on financing.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of Item 23
regarding levying of annual assessments; and asked what is the
landscape and lighting district.
The Director replied that distribution costs on medians and
lighting are determined annually in certain areas of the landscape
and lighting maintenance district, and this was the process for the
annual assessment.
COMMISSION CONCERNS~
Commissioner Kasalek
-Inquired about activity occurring on land behind Peppertree
homes.
Commissioner Kasparian
-Requested that City Hall make available information on where
to dump household hazardous waste
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Inquired about a letter in the paper regarding an item that
had appeared before the Planning Commission almost a year ago.
-Inquired about letter from property owner regarding the kiosk
in Old Town.
-Commented on large real estate sign in front of Jalapeno's
restaurant.
-Reported an overgrowth of weeds on the meat company property.
-Commented on the water company obtaining screening for the
yard.
Commissioner Le Jeune had requested the City Attorney report
on the enforceability of an unwarranted stop sign within the
City. The City Attorney reported that if a stop sign is
approved by the City Council then it is enforceable by law and
traffic tickets would be upheld.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Shaheen seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 8:24. Motion carried 4-0. Commissioner Baker left the
meeting before adjournment.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on July 8,
1991 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council C~amberst~300 Centennial Way,
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C-~0n¢~dTLe Jeune
,/Chairman
~athleen ~lan~y
Secretary
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