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TUSTIN PLANNTNG COMMTSSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 10, 199~
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Kasalek
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1. Minutes of the May ~$, 1991 Planning Commission m~etinq.
2. Use Determination 91-02
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
MR. CHANG J. KANG
IL-DO TAE KWAN-DO ASSOCIATION
3649 W. MCFADDEN
SANTA ANA, CA 92704
2600 WALNUT AVENUE, SUITE A & B
PLANNED COMMUNITY INDUSTRIAL (PC-IND)
IRVINE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CATEGORICALLY
EXEMPT (CLASS 5) PURSUANT TO SECTION 15305 OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
TO DETERMINE THAT MARSHALL ARTS STUDIOS ARE
PERMITTED WITHIN THE PLANNED COMMUNITY INDUSTRIAL
DISTRICT
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission:
1. Deny by Minute Order, a determination that a martial arts
studio is an outright permitted use within the Industrial/Support
Commercial section of the Irvine Industrial Complex, as it is not
similar to other outright permitted uses in the Industrial/Support
Commercial section. 2. Determine by Minute Motion that a martial
arts studio shall be allowed subject to the conditions of a
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Conditional Use Permit. 3. Provide direction to staff to begin
preparation of a Code Amendment to allow recreational uses in the
industrial areas subject to a conditional use permit.
Presentation: Becky Stone, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Baker moved, Kasalek seconded to pull item #2 from the
Consent Calendar for discussion. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Kasparian questioned whether the use "shall" be
allowed.
The Director replied that "may" be allowed would be more
appropriate; that staff would like direction to allow the applicant
to process the actions concurrently; and that if there is no
intention to support the use it would be appropriate to not give
that direction, but that there are major issues associated with the
use; and it would best be handled with the use permit process.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of recreational
uses.
The Director replied that it would be more clearly defined with a
code amendment.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
The Director clarified that this was a motion to support the three
staff recommended actions.
Commissioner Le Jeune affirmed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2.5 Cond%tional Use Permit 91-07
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
JOHN V. SAUERS
515 SO. PACIFIC STREET
TUSTIN, CA 92680
515 SO. PACIFIC STREET
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (R-l) DISTRICT
CULTURAL RESOURCES OVERLAY DISTRICT
THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA).
APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW
AN EXISTING TWO-STORY STRUCTURE TO BE
PERMITTED AS A SECOND SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING,
PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 9223-b. NO NEW
CONSTRUCTION IS PROPOSED.
Recommendation: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
table this item. The proposal will be renoticed when a new hearing
date is determined.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Kasalek ~gv~d, Le Jeune seconded to table item #2.5.
Motion carried 5-0.
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Amendment to Desiqn Review 87-37, Conditional Use Permit 90-
26, Desiqn Review 90-39
APPLICANTS:
CHEVRON USA, INC.
P.O. BOX 2833
LA HABRA, CA 90632
DONAHUE SCHRIBER
3501 JAMBOREE ROAD, SUITE 300
SOUTH TOWER
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660
LANDOWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
IRVINE RETAIL PROPERTIES COMPANY
2 PARK PLAZA, SUITE 300
IRVINE, CA 92714
2740 BRYAN AVENUE
MIXED USE - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY-CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO DESIGN REVIEW 87-
37 TO ALLOW LANDSCAPE AND BUILDING SETBACKS
ALONG A PORTION OF MYFORD ROAD TO BE REDUCED
FROM 72 AND 77 FEET, TO 52 AND 57 FEET,
RESPECTIVELY.
2. APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW
AN AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE STATION WITH SELF-
SERVICE GASOLINE SALES AND ACCESSORY
CONVENIENCE STORE, AND AUTHORIZE A
COMPREHENSIVE SIGNAGE PROGRAM FOR THE
PROPOSAL.
3. APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL
DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
Recomm~Ddation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 2907 finding that EIR 85-2 is adequate to
serve as the program EIR for the project; and 2. Approve an
Amendment to Design Review 87-37, Conditional Use Permit 90-26 and
Design Review 90-39 by adopting Resolution No. 2908, as submitted
or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Staff made changes to Resolution 2908, as moved.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:21 p.m.
John Torwick, Property Development Specialist for Chevron, USA,
Inc., 1300 S. Beach Blvd., La Habra, commented that Chevron feels
that the conditions and modifications that have been made are all
that they are able to make at this time. He requested the
following conditions be removed from the report: 3.1, 3.3, 3.15,
and 5.4.
CommissioDer Kasparian asked if the driveways would both have
ingress and egress; if the driveways would be divided; and if they
are a normal width.
Mr. Torwick affirmed that they would have ingress and egress; noted
that they normally have one large driveway without arrows; that a
normal width is 35-38 feet.
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The Director commented that this has been reviewed by the traffic
engineer and meets City standards.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the storage tanks are double-
walled; and who monitors the device.
Mr. Torwick replied that they are to the current City, County, and
State requirements; and that they are computer operated with
sensing devices in the store with an alarm.
Commissioner Kasparian asked why the women's lavatory was larger
than the men's; and asked if low flush toilets would be
incorporated.
The Director replied that the Plumbing Code for new construction
requires low flush toilets.
Commissioner Kasalek asked for a clarification of the location of
the trash enclosure; if it was closer to the terra cotta buildings
than the Chevron buildings; if the roadway was not for routine
traffic; and if the trash enclosures would be visible by the
Chevron customers.
The Director replied that it was set away from the Chevron
buildings.
Staff affirmed that it was closer to the terra cotta buildings;
that the roadway was a service drive aisle; and that they are
concerned with the way it would look from the street; that white
against the terra cotta backdrop would be more noticeable.
Commissioner Kasparian asked the reason the applicant wanted 3.1
and 3.3 changed.
Mr. Torwick replied that not one of the colors for the center would
fit with their image; and that the corporation is being very
specific about what they can do.
Glenn Myers, Donahue Schriber, commented that in trying to work
with the project architects to incorporate the center's colors into
the project, they decided it would be best to leave the colors out;
that it would be worse to compromise and have the project look
strange.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:36 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune decided to look at each issue separately for
a consensus. Regarding Item 3.1, he noted that the only color from
the palette seen in that area is terra cotta; and that cannot be
put on the station.
Staff affirmed that terra cotta is the only color seen from the
station, but that the market place color board is available for
choice.
Commissioner Kasalek noted that Chevron has compromised and that
since the building is behind the center, she does not see the need
for another color.
Commissioner Baker agreed.
Commissioner Shaheen agreed.
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Commissioner Kasparian noted that the architect that spoke at the
last hearing noted that the white colors would stand out, but that
he would be willing to concede.
CommissioDer Le Jeune noted that the Commission agreed 5-0 to
eliminate Item 3.1.
The Director commented that Item 3.3 was regarding whether the
window mullions should be white or gray.
Staff noted that it was the lighter gray on the color board.
Commissioner Baker asked if it would be facing into the station,
not towards the street.
The Director affirmed.
Commissioner Baker noted that he had no problem eliminating Item
3.3.
Commissioner
practical.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that 3.3 was resolved.
The Director noted that Item 3.15 was regarding
enclosure.
Kasalek commented that the gray would be more
the trash
Co~missioner Baker agreed that the trash enclosure should be
painted terra cotta.
Commissioner Le Jeune agreed.
Commissioner Kasalek felt that the enclosure looks like it would be
a part of Chevron, but that she would agree with the rest of the
Commission.
Commissioner ~aker noted that the white would not look right
against the terra cotta wall.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that there was a consensus on Item
3.15.
The Director commented regarding Item 5.4: that the applicant was
only permitted one (1) sign, but that it could be much larger; and
that any action could create a precedent.
Commiss~Q~er Le Jeune asked how much smaller the signs are than
allowed by code.
Staff replied that they are now only two (2) square feet, and that
they are allowed 25 square feet.
Commissioner Kasparian feels that they should opt for one larger
sign; that once in the station the customer knows they are in a
Chevron station.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked how large the signs on the pumps can
be.
Staff replied that none are allowed.
The Director replied that the new
issue.
Sign Code will
address that
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Commissioner Le Jeune noted that for two (2) square feet each, he
would be willing to allow two (2) signs.
Commissioner Baker asked if they would be setting a precedent.
The Director replied that they would be setting a precedent by
allowing more signs on the canopy than the Code permits; and that
they would be allowed the maximum square footage, but the number of
signs should be limited to what is allowed by the Code.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that he saw no reason not to allow two
(2) signs; that there are a lot of infractions around town; that
this is a beautifully done, first-class operation; that there has
to be variations; and that they are not setting a precedent because
it is a different situation.
Commissioner Kasalek agreed that it might set a precedent; that
size-wise this may be alright now, but in the future an applicant
may want two (2) larger signs; that the station's colors already
stand out as being Chevron; that she encourages one (1) large sign,
and felt that two (2) small signs were unnecessary.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to adopt Resolution
No. 2907 finding that EIR 85-2 is adequate to serve as the program
EIR for the project. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to approve an
Amendment to Design Review 87-37, Conditional Use Permit 90-26 and
Design Review 90-39 by adopting Resolution No. 2908 revised as
follows:
Exhibit A, Page 2, 2.1 add: E. A soil study conducted by a
licensed soils engineer to determine the presence of any
existing soil contamination, especially in the area of the
proposed underground fuel tanks.
Under Site and Building Conditions heading: Delete Item 3.1
and 3.3 and renumber the remaining items accordingly.
Item 3.13, third line, "enclosing" should be corrected to be
"enclosed".
Under Signage heading, Item 5.2, first bullet statement should
read: "° A maximum of one (1) double-faced monument sign per
street frontage"
Motion carried 5-0. Commissioners Shaheen and Le Jeune opposed to
Condition 5.4 of Exhibit A.
OLD BUSZNE88:
4. Status Reports
Received and filed.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if staff was keeping an accurate
account of the number of units approved; and with the acreage left,
will the density requirements be met.
The Director replied that the number of units approved is accurate,
but will check to be sure the numbers coincide; and the total units
are limited to 7,950, and each project approval is tracked against
the total numbers.
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Commissioner Kasparian asked if the Continental Cablevision tower
should be 35 feet high instead of a 53 foot high dish.
The Director responded that staff will review the issue, but that
it is listed on a summary sheet only.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked how long Carl's Jr. has to remove its
abandoned sign; and would it not be easier to lease the building if
the pole sign is left remaining.
The Director replied that the owner generally has 30 days to
respond to a notice whereby they can provide a reason that they
cannot meet that deadline; that the City is making a presumption of
abandonment; that the owner may have a desire to incorporate that
sign into a future use on the site; that the current code does not
deal with this issue, but the new code would provide a process for
presumption of abandonment; and that an applicant would be able to
provide evidence at a public hearing supporting their reasons not
to remove the sign.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if all of the violations are being
handled; and noted that there a lot of sign violations.
Rita Westfield, Assistant Director, replied that they are all in
different stages of enforcement.
NEW BUSINESS:
STAFF CONCERNS:
Se
~eport on actions taken at May 20 and June 3, 1991 City
Council Meetinqs
Staff reported on the subject agendas.
The Director specifically called the Commission's attention to the
Council action on CUP 91-01, Variance 91-08, the proposed tire
sales and service business within the First Street Specific Plan
area.
Commissioner Kasparian asked what the 3-2 decision in the margin of
the minutes meant.
The Director replied that it was minute action and not the formal
minutes; and that there appeared to be three Council members that
supported the use, and referred it back to the Planning Commission
to digest the new information provided by the applicant.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the Commission has to look at the
issue as though it had never been before them.
The Director replied that the Commission will receive a modified
proposal that will have to be renoticed for public hearings.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if any applicants live in the City.
The Director replied that that was an inappropriate question that
was not germane to the issue.
CQmmiss~oner Kasparian asked if staff is making a traffic study for
the new configuration.
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The Director replied that they will be bringing on a Traffic
Engineer to resolve the traffic issues and identify anything that
might be an impact to the modified site configuration.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the traffic engineer will be at the
Planning Commission meeting.
The Director affirmed, if the budget allows, and noted that they
are trying to keep the costs down for the applicant.
Commissioner Baker asked if the traffic study is to include the
projected traffic from the car wash.
The Director replied that there will be an amendment to the CUP for
the car wash; and that the Commission will have to re-evaluate the
environmental record for the car wash site.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if Leslie Pontious's remarks requesting
Council to review the First Street Specific Plan were in regards to
the auto use.
The Director replied that it related to exploring whether or not
there is a desire to keep the First Street Specific Plan standards
in place or if there is a need for significant alterations to the
Plan.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there was any way to know if the
First Street Specific Plan has inhibited development.
The Director replied that there has been development that has
occurred since the adoption of the Plan that has been of higher
quality than prior to the Plan.
6. Revisions to Draft Sign Code
Recommendation - Staff recommends that the Planning Commission
set a worksession to review and discuss the proposed changes
to the Draft Sign Code.
The Planning Commission scheduled a Sign Code Workshop for
June 24th at 5:00 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if this would be a public workshop.
The Director replied that it would not be if this evening's meeting
was adjourned to the 5:00 workshop.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if Chamber of Commerce representatives
would be present.
The Director responded that they would be present upon invitation,
but that there will be a meeting in the future for them.
CO~O~ISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Kasparian
-Noticed a Lee & Associates real estate sign on the proposed
daycare center property on Main and asked if the project is
still going ahead.
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Staff responded that this is sometimes done as an
advertisement and that they believed the daycare center is
still going ahead.
-Asked about the status of junction boxes.
Staff responded that an item was coming to the Commission at
the next meeting.
-Asked about status of low flush toilets.
Staff responded that this issue was going before the City
Council at their next meeting.
Commissioner Baker
-Inquired about having better signs at Stevens Square.
Staff responded that identification is handled by individual
groups.
-Inquired about an access to street stairwell at parking
structure.
Staff responded that the City has no authority over access,
just that the City has an association interest in
approximately 100 spaces.
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Asked if the corrections had been made to the Stevens Square
structure.
Staff affirmed that they had been made but the matter was
still under litigation.
-Commented on the poor quality of the cable transmissions of
the City Council meetings.
-Asked the City Attorney about unwarranted stop signs.
The City Attorney said that he would look into the subject for
Commissioner Le Jeune.
Commissioner Shaheen
-Noted that 2262 Apple Way has cement trucks parking in front
of the property.
-Would like more traffic signs in the Peppertree development.
Staff responded that the request for more traffic signs would
need to go through the Peppertree Association.
Commissioner Kasalek
-Asked about a grading field trip.
Staff responded that there would be a community workshop in
conjunction with Hillside Review.
-Asked if the sign at Tower Records was approved for that
design.
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Staff affirmed that it was and that there would be more
creative signage in the Entertainment Village at the
Marketplace.
ADJOURNMEI~T:
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Kasparian seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 8:24 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
A Sign Code Workshop has been scheduled for June 24, 1991 at 5:00
p.m. preceding the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission
on June 24, 1991 at 7:00 p.m. in the city Council Chambers, 300
Centennial Way, Tustin.
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