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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 22, 1990
CALL TO ORDER: 7:02 p.m., City Council Chambers
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ROLL CALL: PRESENT: Le Jeune, Baker, Kasparian, Kasalek
(Shaheen absent)
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1. Minutes of the October 3. 1990 and October 8. 1990 Planning
Commission meetings.
Commissioner Baker noted for the record that it was not he that
made the comments under Commission Concerns of the October 8
meeting as stated.
PRESENTATION: Habitats for Humanities
Jenny Humboldt, Orange County Habitats for Humanities, gave a short
presentation of their program for the Commission. She stated that
the program is not based on charity, the organization works with
families to build homes. It was started in 1976 by Millard Fuller,
and there has been an Orange County chapter since 1988. Its
objective is to address the problem of providing housing in Orange
County. It has a board of directors and 400 active volunteers.
They are presently building 53 homes in Orange County in Anaheim,
Rancho Santa Margarita, and Santa Ana. Their goal is to build 50
houses per year. They acquire the houses/land at low or no cost
and utilize no interest loans. They build modest homes, maximize
their use of volunteer labor and material donations, and work with
churches. They have received two Register charity awards, and the
Irvine Company has donated $100,000. The houses are sold at no
profit, and the owner receives a 20 year interest free mortgage.
The money is recycled into the main fund for use with future
houses. The families that meet the criteria have to have an income
less than the median income for Orange County, but have to be able
to make the mortgage, with 1% down payment. They must have steady
employment with a history of financial responsibility, and must
donate 1000 hours of "sweat equity" in their home or another. They
do not select based on race or religion. This is not a handout,
but a hand -up. They are building a community, and some of the
people acquire skills that help them improve their position. The
Santa Ana project is in conjunction with the Civic Center Bario
Housing Project, the Anaheim project was donated by the Anaheim
Redevelopment Agency, and the Rancho Santa Margarita project is in
conjunction with Fieldstone, who donated the land and entitlement.
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They also have a project in Brea in the design stage, and future
plans for Huntington Beach and Fullerton. This provides a positive
alternative for low income housing. She noted that their board of
directors would be happy to meet with the Planning Commission.
Art Humboldt, Habitats for Humanities, challenged the Commission
and the City to work with the organization in partnership as they
are updating or amending the General Plan to provide an alternate
for low-cost housing.
Commissioner Kasparian moved. Baker seconded to approve minutes.
Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2. Modification to Conditional Use Permit 90-18
APPLICANT/
OWNER: ALDERSGATE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH
1201 S.E. IRVINE BOULEVARD
TUSTIN, CA 92680
LOCATION: 1201 S.E. IRVINE BOULEVARD
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS: THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 3) PURSUANT TO THE
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
REQUEST: MODIFICATION OF CONDITION 2.1 OF PLANNING
COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 2821 RELATED TO
CONSTRUCTION OF A BLOCK WALL TO ALLOW A CHANGE IN
MATERIAL OR OTHER ALTERNATIVES CONSIDERED
APPROPRIATE.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 2844, as submitted or revised, modifying
Condition 2.1 of Conditional Use Permit 90-18, adopted by
Resolution No. 2821, to permit a change in construction material
for a required play yard fence from a slump block wall to double -
sided wood fencing.
Presentation: Anne E. Bonner, Assistant Planner
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:16 p.m.
David Miller, chairman of the building committee at Aldersgate
Methodist Church, noted that he was concerned about not
understanding the reasoning for the requirement of a 6 foot 8 inch
screening wall between the play yard and the adjoining property
which is at least 150 feet away. He noted that the current fence
is 3-4 feet and more due to the incline; that the neighbors along
the west side have a 6 foot fence; that the State required a 4 foot
fence; and that they will double -side all fences required. He
requested that they be allowed to delay any changes until the
proposed changes to the play yard, parking lot and facility are
made within the next year or year and one-half.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the applicant did not realize that
a 6 foot 8 inch fence was required when the original approval was
given; and if the fences were identified on the plans.
Mr. Miller replied that at the time of the initial ruling, the
planners had not informed them of the requirement; that they did
not address the fence at the public hearing; and that the State
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requires a 4 foot fence which would have been indicated on the
plans.
The Director advised that the Commission can impose its own
conditions via the conditional use permit process; and that they
should have a case planner involved to review this item.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:25 p.m.
Staff indicated that the applicant was willing to postpone the
change; but that staff does not recommend postponing the change due
to the school presently being in use and that the expansion plans
have not yet been submitted.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked about the blue shaded area of the
illustration.
Staff replied that the blue area indicated single -sided fencing
that was installed without permits.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if staff was requiring double -sided
fencing along the blue and yellow shaded areas; and if it was for
aesthetics.
Staff affirmed and stated that it was to provide compatibility and
that it should be painted or stained to match the building; that it
was for aesthetics and to meet the zoning requirements; and that
there is a section in the Zoning Code allowing the waiving of
height requirements.
Commissioner Kasparian asked what type of fencing was required.
Staff replied that the Code required a slump block wall or solid
fence.
Commissioner Kasalek asked if the fencing was recommended due to
the noise generated to the neighbors.
Staff replied that it was for security and noise; and that the
Police Department recommends that for security the fence should not
continue all the way around due to the driveway off of Wass.
Commissioner Kasparian asked about a sidewalk on the illustration;
and noted that a child could jump over a 4 foot fence.
Staff replied that the area needs to be secured; that a child could
possibly jump a 4 foot fence, but that the applicant informed her
that the fence was 5 foot.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if staff was asking for a double -sided
wood fence; if the slats are on the in or outside of the existing
single -sided fence; and what the yellow and black areas on the
illustration indicated.
Staff replied that if the applicant is willing to do one side, it
should be consistent; that the slats are on the outside facing the
parking lot; and that the yellow area was modified to slump block
wall and that staff recommends compatibility; and that the black
area is chain link.
Commissioner Baker noted that the play yard is surrounded by chain
link; and asked how high the chain link is.
Staff advised that based on the recommendation of the Police
Department, there would not be a solid fence around the play yard;
and that it is 4 feet high.
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Commissioner Le Jeune asked when the fencing along the blue area
was installed.
Staff replied that since there were no permits pulled, she was
unsure, but assumed that it was done between the original approval
and this date.
Commissioner Kasparian asked how the day care center could be
approved with a 4 foot fence when the State requirement was 6 feet
8 inches.
Staff replied that the State requirement is 4 feet, and the City's
is 6 feet 8 inches.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if 6 feet 8 inches represented the
maximum height a fence could be.
Staff affirmed.
The Director advised that the Code requires a 6 foot 8 inch play
yard enclosure for nursery schools; and that the Planning
Commission has the authority to reduce the maximum height.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he was confused by the issue and
that they cannot justify requiring a 6 foot 8 inch fence when there
is a 4 foot fence around the play yard; that he is willing to
promote fencing no higher than the original fence; that double -
sided would not provide more protection; and that the fences should
be the same height.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that it was not a matter of the height
of the fence, but that it be double -sided.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that the Resolution requires a 6 foot
8 inch slump block wall fence.
Commissioner Baker agreed with Commissioner Kasparian and noted
that he felt that they were asking for inconsistencies.
Commissioner Kasalek stated that she did not understand the need
for the yellow area, since it was unnecessary due to the Police
Department requiring the back to be open.
Lois Jeffrey, City Attorney, recommended that they bring this back
and check the Code; that the Commission cannot change the
requirements altogether; and that the staff needs to look at the
development standards which may require a variance.
The Director recommended a visual presentation to clarify the
issues.
Commissioner Baker moved, Le Jeune seconded to postpone action on
Conditional Use Permit 90-18 by continuing item to the regular
scheduled Planning Commission meeting of November 14, 1990. Motion
carried 4-0.
3. Conditional Use Permit 90-27
APPLICANT: LENNY'S PASTA AND PIZZA
LDA RESTAURANT INVESTORS, LIMITED PARTNERS
3752 HAVERFORD
IRVINE, CALIFORNIA 92715
OWNER: COLCO PROSPECT
1520 BROOKHOLLOW, #35
SANTA ANA, CALIFORNIA 92705
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LOCATION: 17602 SEVENTEENTH STREET, SUITE 104
ZONING: PC -C: PLANNED COMMUNITY - COMMERCIAL
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS: THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 3) PURSUANT TO
PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
REQUEST: AUTHORIZATION FOR THE ON-SITE SALE OF BEER AND WINE
FOR CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES (ABC LICENSE TYPE
114111) IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT USE.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Conditional Use Permit 90-27 by adopting Resolution No.
2843, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Anne E. Bonner, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked if Item 1.3 of Exhibit A should
indicate "beer and wine only" instead of "liquor."
Staff agreed that it should be corrected.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:48 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:49 p.m.
Commissioner Kasalek moved, Baker seconded to approve Conditional
Use Permit 90-27 by adopting Resolution No. 2843 revised as
follows:
Resolution No. 2843, Exhibit A, Page 1, item 1.3 should read:
"...the sale of beer and wine commences within...".
Motion carried 4-0.
OLD BUSINESS:
4. Design Review 87-37
INITIATED BY:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CITY OF TUSTIN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
THE IRVINE COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE, SUITE 330
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
TUSTIN MARKET PLACE
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS NOT A PROJECT, AS DEFINED
BY THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL ACT (CEQA).
APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE DIRECTOR OF
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE MINOR MODIFICATIONS
TO APPROVED PLANS.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve the amendment to Design Review 87-37 by adopting Resolution
No. 2848 as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Baker commented that he had great confidence in the
current staff, and that the wording could be changed in the future
in case of a different staff.
Commissioner Kasparian felt that the wording was ambiguous, but
agreed.
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Commissioner Kasalek noted that she had every confidence in their
competent staff.
Commissioner Baker moved, Kasparian seconded to approve the
amendment to Design Review 87-37 by adopting Resolution No. 2848 as
submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
5. Development Status Report
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Received and filed.
NEW BUSINESS:
6. Design Review 90-29
APPLICANT: RED ROBIN INTERNATIONAL
9 EXECUTIVE CIRCLE, SUITE 190
IRVINE, CA 92714
OWNER: THE IRVINE COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE, SUITE 330
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
LOCATION: 3015 EL CAMINO REAL
(LOT 3 OF TRACT 13557)
ZONING: MIXED USE (NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL) -
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS: THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN.
REQUEST: APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN
FOR THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT.
Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following actions:
1. Approve the Environmental Determination for the project by
adopting Resolution No. 2845.
2. Approve Design Review 90-29 by adopting Resolution No. 2846
as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Staff made changes to Resolution No. 2846, as moved.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if staff was requiring the red color to
be compatible.
Staff replied that they are asking that the red color provided
should be the same as the red approved for use by El Pollo Loco;
that there are other restaurants asking for red to be added to the
palette; and that they are asking the Market Place developer to
select one shade of red to be used throughout.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the decision could be made at the
Community Development Department level.
Staff advised that the applicant was available for comment.
Richard Powers, manager of architecture for Red Robin, commented
that they utilize a standard sign which is manufactured in quantity
and would like to apply for a deviation from the requirements; and
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that they would like Condition 3.2 of Exhibit A to be changed to a
"stolit-type" of material.
Commissioner Baker asked what is being used in the Market Place.
The Director replied that the conditions do not cite the
manufacturer's type of stolit, and that there is a wide range of
products available.
Staff replied that the term "stolit" is how it is typically
referred to, and that it would be an acrylic texture coating.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that the Commission would not like to
make changes to the Resolution if the products available are
consistent.
Staff revised Condition 6.2 of Exhibit A, as moved.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 2845 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to approve Design
Review 90-29 by adopting Resolution No. 2846 revised as follows:
Resolution 2846, page 1, item I -C in the first sentence,
Tustin should be capitalized.
Resolution 2846, Exhibit A, page 3, item 4.2 should read:
"...on-site of alcoholic beverages is contingent...".
Resolution 2846, Exhibit A, page 5, item 6.2 should read:
."does not exceed the standards below, or up to 10% increase
in sign area as a minor modification regulated by the Director
of Community Development:...".
Motion carried 4-0.
7. Interpretation of Parking Requirements
APPLICANT:
RANDY ROBERTSON (AGENT)
33912 EL ENCANTO
DANA POINT, CA 92629
OWNER:
OCTIVIA M. DIEHL
C/O MR. BRUCE AUSTIN
10416 ECHO RIVER COURT
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708
LOCATION:
1972 YOLANDA WAY
ZONING:
R-2: DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
THIS ITEM IS NOT CONSIDERED A PROJECT AS DEFINED
UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
REQUEST:
TO PERMIT THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING NON-
CONFORMING DUPLEX WITHOUT REQUIRING CONFORMANCE
WITH CURRENT PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Commission.
Presentation: Anne E. Bonner, Assistant Planning
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the applicant intended to expand
the existing home or construct new dwelling units.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the construction will be like the
adjacent units.
Staff replied that there would be no new units; that the new units
would be over the existing units; and that they will go beyond the
adjacent units.
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Commissioner Baker asked if there are two (2) spaces per unit; and
if there is a garage door opener.
Staff replied that they will have two (2) spaces with independent
access; that spaces are located behind the garage; and that a car
could block access by parking in the driveway.
The Director noted that only three (3) spaces were provided while
this location was under County jurisdiction.
Commissioner Kasalek noted that they could also park on the street.
Commissioner Baker asked if they were adding three (3) bedrooms;
and noted that they are looking for a large family.
Staff replied that they are adding three bedrooms, baths, and a
family room.
The Director commented that there is an unusual lot line on this
property; and that the parking spaces would have to be created
parallel to the street which would eliminate the open courtyard
effect.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if they would be establishing a
precedent by approving this item.
The Director replied that they would be, but only in regards to the
parking non -conformity; that others would have to comply with the
Code or apply for a variance.
Commissioner Kasbarian asked if the surrounding properties had 2-3
parking spaces; and that they should not expand to four (4) spaces.
Commissioner Kasalek agreed.
Commissioner_ Kasalek moved, Baker seconded to approve request by
adoption of Resolution 2849-A as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
8. Use Determination 90-04
APPLICANT/ CLARENCE J. TURNER
OWNER: TRICO REALTY, INC.
201 PAULARINO AVENUE
COSTA MESA, CA 92626
LOCATION: 14751 - A FRANKLIN AVENUE
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS: THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 5) FROM
THE PROVISIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT PURSUANT TO SECTION 15305
REQUEST: TO DETERMINE THAT "AUTOMOBILE SERVICE AND REPAIR"
IS PERMITTED WHEN THE USE "DOES NOT" OCCUPY AN
ENTIRE BUILDING OR DEVELOPABLE LOT OR PARCEL IN THE
IRVINE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
Recommendation - Pleasure of the Commission.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune advised that he agreed with staff and was
unwilling to make a use determination on this item.
Commissioner Baker commented that he was concerned with shops that
change tires and create an environmental hazard due to body
painting.
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Staff replied that they do no painting, and that the only body work
is installation of prefabricated fiberglass car tops, installing
tires and grills. He also noted that the Fire Department's
original concern was with the glue application process which was
inconsistent.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the neighbors have not been
notified and have had no opportunity to comment on possible past
problems.
Commissioner Kasparian commented that the applicant might change;
that they do not want to see strip shops in this area; that
businesses like Volvotech are easily regulated; and that he is in
favor of the current code.
Commissioner Le Jeune stated that anytime there is a request to
make a zone change, there should be a public hearing.
Staff replied that the idea behind the use determination process is
to provide for uses that are not listed in the Code; that some are
very similar; and that this situation does not apply.
Lois Jeffrey, City Attorney, advised that she was concerned that
the applicant was seeking an interpretation; that the Code is
clear; that it would be a bad precedent for the Planning Commission
to utilize the use determination process to eliminate clear
language; and that it is clear that this use is prohibited.
The Director stated that staff tried to point out these issues to
the applicant.
Thomas Edwards, representing the applicant, stated that it was the
intent of the applicant to determine that the type of after -market
service items do not qualify as auto service or repair; that since
they are not licensed by the State, the facility cannot align
tires, and no mechanic is employed. He also stated that they
consider their portion of the building to be an individual
building; that they have been operating for three (3) years and are
inspected bi-annually; and that the question of the glue
application has been taken care of.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a definition of a building.
The Director did not concur with the applicant; that even though
there is a fire wall, that does not mean it is a separate building.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Baker seconded to deny Use
Determination 90-04 by Minute Order. Motion carried 4-0.
STAFF CONCERNS:
9. Report on Actions taken at October 15, 1990 City Council
meeting.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked for a clarification of the water system
analysis Workshop and if it would be held in the Council chambers.
The Director replied that the Mayor asked for a complete evaluation
of the water system and that it would be held in the City Managers
Conference room.
COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Commissioner Kasparian
-Wished to correct a statement made at the October 8, 1990
meeting, page 18 of the minutes approximately 2/3 of the way
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down the page under Commissioner Kasparian, should read:
"...he did not want to defer the decision to her...".
-Asked that a change be made to the October 8, 1990 minutes as
follows: Page 20, approximately half way down the page under
Commissioner Baker moved, should read: "...Sign Program (up
to a maximum of 10%..."
-Suggested that in regard to the railroad car switching tying
up traffic, could we write the railroad a letter advising them
to change the switching hours from peak traffic hours to off-
peak hours.
-Expressed his concern that the sides of the car wash at
Newport and Main Streets are open to the public right-of-way
and pedestrians may be sprayed by water and wax. The Director
advised that we do not have the ability to impose standards at
this time unless owners come in with a proposed plan.
Commissioner Baker
-Asked if we have been contacted by the applicant of Nisson
Car Wash. The Director advised that due to litigation over
the billboard issue that the City Attorney's office is
handling.
Commissioner Kasalek
-Inquired about the status of the land between Tustin Meadows
and Peppertree. The Director advised that the disposition of
the property depends on the completion of the storm drain
work. Staff will get an update for the Commission from Public
Works Department.
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Wanted to thank both newspapers for the publicity and
coverage of the Planning Commission meetings.
-Asked if there were plans for screening of the car wash at
Newport and Main streets. Staff advised that design review
approvals are in process and that landscaping will provide
screening, but there will be no building changes at this time.
There has been discussion of a complete remodel in the near
future. The Director reminded the Commission that the
operation is a legal non -conforming use and we need to be
sensitive to the issues.
-Inquired about the status of the General Plan update. The
Director replied that a consultant has been chosen and that a
draft will be brought before the Council in November.
-Reported that cable coverage of the City Council meetings has
been very bad, with static, etc. The Director reminded the
Commission that permits for installation of a new tower
complete with satellite dish at Continental Cablevision was
approved and should alleviate this problem.
-Read of a city using a video camera to record code
enforcement items. Thought this would be a useful tool for
our City.
-Inquired about the status of the abandoned service station at
the corner of Newport and E1 Camino streets.
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ADJOURNMENT
At 8:50 p.m. Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to
adjourn meeting to a Sign Code Workshop at 5:00 p.m. on November 5,
1990 and then adjourn to the next regularly scheduled Planning
Commission meeting on Tuesday, November 13, 1990 at 7:00 p.m. in
the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin. Motion
carried 4-0.
Kaitherine Fit trick
Secretary