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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE L~v ~990
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1. Minutes of the May 29, 1990 Planning Commission Meetinq
Commissioner Baker moved, Shaheen seconded to approve the consent
calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS=
2. Conditional Use Permit 90-10 (Continued from May 14, 1990)
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
JOSEPH CASASANTA, GENERAL MANAGER
CONTINENTAL CABLEVISION
13816 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
HOWARD & ANNA LARNARD
AMERICAN CABLE SYSTEMS OF CALIF. INC.
13816 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
137 SOUTH PROSPECT
CENTRAL COMMERCIAL (C-2)
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREPARED IN
CONFORMANCE WITH THE CEQA.
TO INSTALL A 53 FOOT TALL HIGH FREQUENCY RADIO
RECEPTION TOWER WITH THREE ATTACHED MICROWAVE DISHES
AND SIX ANTENNAE AT 137 SOUTH PROSPECT.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission: 1) Certify the
Final Negative Declaration for the project as adequate by adoption
of Resolution No. 2772; and 2) Approve Conditional Use Permit 90-
10 by adoption of Resolution No. 2773, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Christopher E. Jackson, Associate Planner
Planning Commission Minutes
June 11, 1990
Page 2
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there would be nothing below the 30
foot mark on the tower.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the exhibit
presented by staff; if the tower requires additional support; and
if the 50 foot tower could be installed without guy wires.
Staff replied that the tower would not require the guy wires due
to being constructed of a lighter weight material.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:08 p.m.
Mr. Joseph Casasanta, Continental Cablevision, introduced himself
to the Commission.
Commissioner Baker asked if the illustration showing a metal tower
with small cross beams would be representative of the pole's
design.
Mr. Casasanta affirmed and noted that the cross members would
provide a support structure to eliminate twisting in the wind.
Commissioner Kasparian asked how the antennae would be accessed for
maintenance; if the tower was hinged; and asked how high the tower
could be before it required a warning light on top.
Mr. Casasanta replied that the tower is not hinged; that the
trilateral design allows maintenance personnel to climb up and
belt-off for safety; and that they were depending upon the lighting
atop the Xerox building for warning.
The Director replied that the requirement for lighting relates to
the glide slope for the airport approach; that a 50 foot tower
within the City is not within the parameters that would require
additional lighting; but that requirement of the addition of a
small red light would be an inexpensive safety precaution.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the applicant considered additional
screening on the roof of the building around the air conditioning
ducts that would remain.
Mr. Casasanta replied that the current parapet should cover most
of the air conditioning apparatus; and that further requirements
would require the landlord's approval.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:15 p.m.
Staff noted that it would possibly be better to paint the duct
work, perhaps sky blue, since the skirting may attract more
attention.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if staff could review the alternatives
for screening air conditioning equipment.
The Director asked if the Commissioner intended to leave it to the
staff's discretion; and that they needed to ask the applicant for
a commitment on the issue.
The Public Hearing was re-opened at 7:18.
Mr. Casasanta noted that they only lease the building and that he
cannot commit to any work without conferring with the owner.
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June 11, 1990
Page 3
Commissioner Baker noted that since the installation of the tower
and the satellite dishes were also on leased property, then this
is a mute point.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that applicant would have to refer to
the landlord for permission to make alterations to the building.
Mr. Casasanta noted that part of the Conditional Use Permit was to
get the owner's approval.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what was in the Code regarding
screening.
The Director replied that the Design Review criteria related to the
architectural appearance of existing improvements; that they use
their discretionary authority for the design review of new
buildings; and that should it be the desire of the Commission to
impose a condition, it would be better than to leave it up to the
judgment of the staff.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that this imposition is not germane,
because his work is not uncovering the ductwork.
Commissioner Le Jeune felt that there is a City requirement
regarding this.
The Director replied that the Design Review Committee has adopted
policies relating to rooftop screening.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked the applicant and staff to look at the
building to determine the appropriate course of action.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:21 p.m.
Commissioner Baker noted that he is happy with the service, but did
not like the idea of a five-story tower in the middle of town; that
First Street has a Specific Plan; that they have "battered" Carl's
Jr. regarding the height of their sign, and decided that a rose-
colored awning was inappropriate; he also noted that the utility
companies are putting their lines underground, but they are
considering a five-story tower; and he noted that he would have a
difficult time voting for this tower.
Commissioner Le Jeune recapped the options available.
Staff replied that the options are a 30 foot tower with the
antennae left on the roof, or a 50 foot high tower; and that
according to the City's consultant, there are no other options.
Commissioner Baker asked if there was an option of using another
site.
The Public Hearing was re-opened at 7:25 p.m.
Mr. Casasanta noted that they have spent the last couple of years
exploring the alternatives which did not improve the quality of
service, nor could they guarantee continued service if they tie
into another cable company; and that the signal from the Xerox
building provides the best signal.
Commissioner Baker noted that he appreciated the applicant's
problem but that he did not like the idea of a five-story tower in
the middle of town.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:27 p.m.
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June 11, 1990
Page 4
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he felt that the ideals of the
First Street Specific Plan have disappeared as evidenced by the
addition of a car wash on First Street; but that the tower was
unobtrusive compared to the car wash.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked for a clarification of the height of
the tower at Sixth and B Streets; and noted that with a 50-foot
tower most of the antennae will be out of the general view.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Kasparian seconded to certify the Final
Negative Declaration by adopting Resolution No. 2772 as submitted.
Motion carried 3-1.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Kasparian seconded to approve
Conditional Use Permit 90-10 by adoption of Resolution No. 2773
revised as follows:
Paqe 2: add condition 2.4 to read as follows: *** "A
warning beacon light shall be added to top of tower as a
caution for aircraft approaching John Wayne Airport."
Motion carried 3-1.
3. Conditional Use Permit 90-12 (Continued from May 29, 1990)
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
DIKRAN YAZMACIYAN
CAFE LE PALMIER
13041 NEWPORT AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
BURNETT-EHLINE PROPERTIES
2100 S. STATE COLLEGE BOULEVARD
ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA 92806
13041 NEWPORT AVENUE
C-2; CENTRAL COMMERCIAL
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT, CLASS 5, SECTION 15305(A)
AUTHORIZATION FOR THE ON-SITE SALE OF BEER AND WINE
PLUS THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE FOR CONSUMPTION OFF
THE PREMISES (TYPE 41 ABC LICENSE) IN CONJUNCTION
WITH A RESTAURANT USE
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission approve Conditional
Use Permit 90-12 to authorize on-site sale of beer and wine only
(Type 41 ABC license) by adopting Resolution No. 2774, as submitted
or revised.
Presentation: Christopher E. Jackson, Associate Planner
Commissioner Shaheen asked if sale of alcoholic beverages would be
on-site only.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of Exhibit A of
Resolution No. 2774, item 2.9.
Staff replied that this was a standard condition of the ABC
guideline.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the intent of the condition is to
require adequate supervision.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that Item 2.1 should be amended to
note that no off-site sales of beer and wine would be authorized.
The Director agreed and suggested that the condition be reworded
to include all alcoholic beverages, as moved.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 11, 1990
Page 5
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:38 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:39 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked about the status of the Exxon station's
application.
The Director replied that the court overruled the City's position;
that the CUP has been reinstated; that there is a hearing before
the ABC; that there is a petitioning process for people opposing
the matter; that the ABC previously recommended denial and will
probably continue to take that position, but there has been no
action as yet.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if this is a restaurant or a deli.
Staff replied that it is a sit-down restaurant and deli.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to approve Conditional
Use Permit 90-12 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2774 revised as
follows:
Page 1, 2.1: change to read: "No off-site alcohol sales for
any type of ABC license is authorized."
Motion carried 4-0.
Amendment to Conditional Use Permit 69-286, Conditional Use
Permit 90-09 and Design Review 89-20 (Continued from May 14,
1990)
APPLICANT:
PROPERTY
OWNER/
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MOBILE RECYCLING CORPORATION
11292 WESTERN AVENUE
P.O. BOX 125
STANTON, CALIFORNIA 90680
C/O MR. SAMUEL S. TOTOR
C.C. HUMPHRIES
30001 CROWN VALLEY PARKWAY
LAGUNA NIGUEL, CALIFORNIA 92677
14551 RED HILL AVENUE
C-2 (CENTRAL COMMERCIAL)
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CATEGORICALLY
EXEMPT (CLASS 1 & 3) PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 15301 AND
15303 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
1) AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH A 170 SQUARE FOOT
BULK VENDING RECYCLING FACILITY IN THE PARKING
LOT OF THE ALPHA BETA SHOPPING CENTER PURSUANT
TO CITY CODE SECTION 9232(b)(v) OF THE TUSTIN
CITY CODE.
2) MODIFY THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ORIGINALLY
REQUIRED FOR THE ENTIRE CENTER FROM 288 TO A
NUMBER ALLOWED BY THE CITY'S CURRENT CODE.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission take the following
actions: 1) Approve Amendment to Conditional Use Permit 69-286
by adoption of Resolution No. 2785, as submitted or revised; and
2) Approve Conditional Use Permit 90-09 and Design Review 89-20
by adoption of Resolution No. 2769, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Shaheen asked if this was the same facility that had
been at that location.
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June 11, 1990
Page 6
Staff affirmed, and noted that the new facility is proposed to be
located in two parking spaces near the Chevron station.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what the maximum length of the
container would be.
Staff replied that it would be 21 feet long by 8 feet wide by 8
feet high; and that the two spaces allocated for the container are
not considered in the number required for the center.
Commissioner KasDarian asked for a clarification of the operating
times since they were not indicated in the current resolution, but
were noted in Resolution No. 1051; and noted that the hours of
operation should be consistent with that of the center.
Staff replied that Resolution No. 1051 was the original Conditional
Use Permit for the center; that their operating times were less
than allowed by Code; that the Code states that the facility could
not operate between midnight and 6:00 a.m.; and that they are still
subject to the requirements of the Code, but staff could provide
language for the current Resolution, if requested.
The Director noted that the hours would be the same as the hours
in Resolution No. 1051.
Staff noted that the applicant's choice of hours of operation from
10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., Tuesday through Saturday, were much more
limited than would be allowed; and that the hours of operation were
indicated in the application.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the area behind the building was an
unauthorized location.
Staff replied that the Code requires that the facility be placed
a minimum of 75 feet from the property line; that the rear corner
was an inappropriate location; and that it would not provide the
visibility that the applicant desires.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that the facility provides a great
service.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:58 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:59 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that there was a lot of activity on
Saturday; that he was concerned about the facility being located
too near the service station and a major entry to the center; and
asked if there was a loading zone area.
Staff replied that customers must park in marked spaces.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the unit could be moved to stall 14
so that it would be further from the entrance, since it might
create a traffic hazard due to a blind spot; asked if they needed
to specify where the loading would be; if the doors swing back and
tie open; and that he was concerned about the speed of people
entering the center.
Staff replied that moving the facility closer to the shops would
provide better visibility and better loading; that it opens to the
south for loading; that they could be tied open; that the mass of
the unit might be a consideration for moving it away from the
entrance.
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June 11, 1990
Page 7
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the four spaces around the unit
could be marked for recycling only.
Staff replied that there are four extra spaces that could be so
marked.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the operator often leaves items
outside the container until he can sort them; and that there is not
a lot of room inside since the paper takes up about 60% of the
space.
Staff replied that the operators have been more lax since it has
been located in the rear of the building.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:55 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked how often the bin was replaced.
Mr. Samuel Totor, applicant, replied that it would be replaced when
it was about 3/4 full; and that it will be picked up three days
each week.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there was only one person operating
the facility; and asked what happens to the items at the close of
day if there is not enough room to store them inside.
Mr. Totor affirmed; and that they try to anticipate the amount of
materials and schedule a pickup if needed.
Commissioner Kasparian asked what the busiest days and times were.
Mr. Totor replied Saturday and Tuesday.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that on Saturday there was not enough
room to store large bags of cans.
Mr. Totor replied that a large truck picked up glass, cans and
plastic on Saturday afternoon.
Commissioner Le Jeune reiterated that there is often a lot of
material left outside the unit; and asked if there was a way to
provide a screen for those items.
Mr. Totor noted that people often leave items outside on Sunday and
Monday; and that they are also concerned about items being left out
overnight.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if there were actually two trailers,
as the drawing shows a 40 foot facility.
Staff replied that the drawing show that two sites are designated,
but that the trailer only occupies one site.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:01 p.m.
Staff noted that it was suggested to relocate the facility two
spaces towards the center with four spaces surrounding it.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve Amendment
to Conditional Use Permit 69-286 by adoption of Resolution No. 2785
as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve
Conditional Use Permit 90-09 and Design Review 89-20 by adoption
of Resolution No. 2769 revised as follows:
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June 11, 1990
Page 8
Page 2: add condition 2.5 to read: *** 2.5 The location of
the recycling facility shall be relocated a total of 2 spaces
to the west.
Motion carried 4-0.
5. Conditional Use Permit 90-13
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT
CITY OF TUSTIN
300 CENTENNIAL WAY
TUSTIN, CA 92680
C/O SUSAN JONES
CITY OF TUSTIN
300 CENTENNIAL WAY
TUSTIN, CA 92680
14652 PROSPECT
PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (88-2) FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE TOWN CENTER REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT. NO ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT
A NEW PARKING AREA, PICNIC GROUNDS AND A PLAY AREA
FOR COLUMBUS-TUSTIN PARK.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission take the following
actions: 1) Approve the Environmental Determination for the
project by adoption of Resolution No. 2783; and 2) Approve
Conditional Use Permit 90-13 by adoption of Resolution No. 2784,
as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Christopher E. Jackson, Associate Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked if there were any other handicapped
considerations other than what was indicated in Exhibit A; if the
180 spaces includes plans for the gymnasium; and if there was to
be fencing around the play area.
Staff replied that they will have to comply with the State
requirements of Title 24; that the parking included the
requirements of the gymnasium; and that there is to be no fencing
around the play area.
The Director noted that there will still be fencing around the ball
fields.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he was concerned with the
children playing, and suggested speed signs within the parking lot.
Staff replied that the Public Works Department did not determine
a need for speed signs, but that they could refer it back to them.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the area by the pump building has
been utilized as part of the park area.
Staff replied that Community Services indicated their concerns that
play should not be near the pump; that one of the concerns of the
EIR was how close the aisle was to Prospect; and that the park was
located farthest away from Prospect as possible to comply with the
EIR.
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:14 p.m.
Marie Shultz, 17731 Westbury Lane, noted that she was delighted
that the park is being developed; that she understood that there
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June 11, 1990
Page 9
would be more park and parking areas where the drainage ditch is
located; and asked how long the gymnasium had been in the plans.
Susan Jones, Community Services, replied that the master plan for
phase 2 began in 1982, and that the gymnasium has been in the plans
from the beginning; that in 1987, the task force was reconvened
and a public hearing was held for the neighbors to discuss the
location; that the tot lot was located near the tennis courts for
parent's convenience and for liability; and that the storm drain
was completed 2-3 years ago.
Ms. Shultz noted that she and her neighbor, Ross Hollins never
received a notification of the change of plans; that her
understanding of the original plans were that the play area would
be located so that the police would have direct visibility; and
asked how many picnic facilities there would be.
Steve Lanq, designer for the park, noted that the picnic area would
be an informal area with approximately five tables for use by the
visitors to the play area or ball field.
Ross Hollins, 17732 Westbury, noted that he was concerned with the
traffic flow and the two driveways; that there have been several
accidents at this location; that traffic should be directed towards
Beneta; and asked if the new entrances differ from the current
drives.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the entrance at Prospect is 27
feet wide, and Beneta is 26 feet wide; and asked if the driveway
was in the same location.
Mr. Lanq replied that there will be a slight divider for ingress
and egress to make it safer; and that the driveway is located
closer to the fields.
Commissioner Baker noted that there used to be ingress and egress
at separate locations and that they are now combining them.
Staff replied that there will be a center median at the entry, and
that there will be a required right-hand turn for exiting; that
they wanted to minimize traffic on Beneta due to it being a
residential street; and that the peak hour of use is not the peak
hour of the street.
Mr. Hollins noted his concern about traffic turning left onto
Prospect; asked if the gym was for the joint use of the public and
the school; asked if the land was being donated to the school or
being maintained by the public; and if the gym would be open to the
public on weekends and evenings.
Ms. Jones replied that the City retains the possession of the gym,
but that it is for use of the school; and that it would be
available on weekends and evenings.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what the prospective date
completion of the gym would be.
for
Ms. Jones replied that she did not know, but that it was to be
addressed in the financing plans.
Mr. Hollins asked if the funds have been appropriated for the park
and asked when it would be completed.
Ms. Jones replied that the funds for the park, parking lot and
storm drain were allocated; and that construction would probably
commence after Tiller Days in late October.
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June 11, 1990
Page 10
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:28 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what OCFCD stood for.
Staff replied that it was Orange County Flood Control District.
Commissioner Baker asked if there would be a sign or a physical
barrier at the driveway on Prospect; and asked how the lighting of
the park would be controlled.
Staff replied that the median was not illustrated but was in the
Conditions of the Exhibit.
Mr. Lanq replied that they would be working with the Public Works
Department to meet their requirements, but that they would be box
type lights on low poles, directed downward; that they should be
able to use the minimum required to provide for safety and
security; and that it would be on a timer with minimum lighting
remaining for police surveillance.
Commissioner Kasparian asked about the notification of the people
who take their children to school on Beneta Way.
Staff replied that there may be people affected within the 300 feet
that drive their children to school, but they have received no
negative comments.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he was still not comfortable with
the layout and suggested a proposed area to increase the picnic
area; that he was not prepared to support Item 2 and asked if
someone could look at this another way.
Staff replied that this was the best alternative that they could
create; that the EIR was a major factor in consideration of the
layout; and that there were many constraints due to the drive
aisle.
Mr. Lang noted that the area being isolated is close to the street
and that they did not want to encourage use of the area by
children; that the gymnasium will be a buffer to the play area;
that when the gym is in place it will not be easy to see around the
pump building; and that liability was a concern and the landscaping
is already in place.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he was suggesting additional
parking spaces in that area.
Lois Jeffrey, City Attorney, noted that if there is a redesign,
they need to re-do and re-issue the EIR; that this could be done,
but not without delaying the project; that regarding the
Conditional Use Permit, they must consider the design and the
impact on the neighbors; and that the issue is the compatibility
with the surrounding uses.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he would understand better if the
EIR indicated more substantive reasons for not providing parking
in that area, but feels it is subjective, as it is.
The Director noted that when the Environmental Document for the
Town Center Redevelopment Project were adopted, there was a traffic
engineer hired who made specific recommendations; that the task
force was comprised of 12 individuals appointed by the City Council
who explored the facility needs and alternatives; and that this is
the best possible design at this point.
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June 11, 1990
Page 11
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he was not suggesting relocating
the driveway, but that with redesign of the area they could utilize
a lot more of the valuable land and still meet the requirements.
The Director replied that the task force recommended passive use
of the area near the pump station; that staff could follow up if
the Commissioner chooses, but that there would be delays; and that
staff feels that the evaluation is adequate.
Commissioner Kasparian suggested that perhaps he did not understand
the liability issue, but that he was not convinced.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the aisle spacing at the bottom of
the drawing was too small.
The Director noted that the area has a standard radius.
The Public Hearing was re-opened at 8:45 p.m.
Ms. Shultz noted that her living room and kitchen look out at the
park; that the children never go through the pump station area and
that there is no destruction; that there will be increased parking
problems with the addition of the gymnasium and that a few more
parking spaces would not hurt.
The public hearing was closed at 8:46 p.m.
Commissioner Baker asked if future EIR documents could add more
spaces as the demand increases.
Commissioner Kasparian replied that when the park area is built,
it will not be changed.
The Director noted that from the facility considerations, they
would not be prepared to ask for modifications unless they ask for
additional recommendations from the Community Services Department.
Commissioner Kasparian asked how long that would take.
Ms. Jones replied that it would go back to the citizens task force,
parks and recreation, and the Planning Commission, which would take
at least 2-3 months; and that the Commissioner should consider that
this has been discussed by several groups with a lot of input; and
that the engineering department and consultant have been working
closely to determine safe flow patterns and adequate parking to
accommodate all of the facilities.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if after the gym is built, would it be
possible to utilize the parking area as suggested by Commissioner
Kasparian.
Ms. Jones replied that may be possible, but they have currently
provided adequate parking for the gymnasium.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if they could not change it now, how
could they in the future.
Mr. Lang indicated that there would not be sufficient space to
include a full parking bay; that they set up the parking to allow
for an adequate drop-off area for the ball fields; and that by
moving the parking area up 10-15 feet causes problems with
circulation.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that he felt it should remain the way
it is so as not to interfere with parking near Beneta; that he does
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June 11, 1990
Page 12
not want to hold up the project; and that he would rather have
bushes and trees since they have more than adequate parking
already.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Baker seconded
Environmental Determination for the project
Resolution No. 2783. Motion carried 4-0.
to approve the
by adoption of
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Baker seconded to approve Conditional
Use Permit 90-13 by adoption of Resolution No. 2784, as submitted.
Motion carried 4-0.
6. Variance 90-03
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
CRAIG BATLEY (RE/MAX REALTY)
17561 E. SEVENTEENTH STREET
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
MICHAEL PATIN
5418 SHANNON DRIVE
YORBA LINDA, CA 92686
17561 E. SEVENTEENTH STREET
PLANNED COMMUNITY - COMMERCIAL (PC-C)
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 11), SECTION 15311
TO ALLOW A MONUMENT SIGN TO ENCROACH 10 FEET INTO
THE REQUIRED 15-FOOT BUILDING LINE SETBACK AND ON
A 100-FOOT WIDE LOT WITH LESS THAN THE REQUIRED 150-
FOOT STREET FRONTAGE.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission approve Variance 90-
03 by adopting Resolution No. 2779, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the height of the sign would be
lowered if the sign was dropped to eliminate the air space below
it.
Staff replied that the applicant could put a concrete base
underneath it without lowering the height.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the drawing given to the Commission
represented the Resolution.
Staff replied that the building setback line is scaled correctly
but that the graphic representation was off.
The Public Hearing was opened at 9:06 p.m.
Craig Batley, applicant, noted that his building was located
between two large two-story buildings, which could be missed by
anyone passing at 45 m.p.h.; that he is requesting a perpendicular
sign to be in conformance with the area; that he will accept the
recommendation of the staff, but would like the Commission to
consider returning it to perpendicular; that all monument signs in
the area are within 2-4 feet of the sidewalks; and that since this
sign would be 15 feet back, the necessity that this sign be
perpendicular is even greater.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that based on the drawings, he assumed
it was a perpendicular sign.
Staff replied that Condition 1.1 of the Resolution requires that
the sign be re-oriented so that it is parallel; that the drawing
is shown as the applicant proposed; that the north side of the 17th
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Street has not been widened to its ultimate width; and that the
signs cited by the applicant are at a location where the street
has been widened; and that the ultimate widening would be
approximately 18 feet.
The Director noted that widening of 17th Street is on the Right-
of-Way map, but not on capital improvement plans.
Commissioner Shaheen asked why staff is requiring a parallel sign.
Staff replied that it was due to the site being unique and not
being entitled to a monument sign; that this site and the adjacent
site share a common driveway; that staff feels that it would create
a more unified front with the neighbors with a parallel sign; and
for safety due to possibility of blockage of vision on exiting the
driveway.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked the approximate square footage of the
building.
Mr. Batley replied that the building was 6,000 square feet.
Commissioner Le Jeune commented on the small businesses on Yorba
with monument signs and asked if the decision was based on zoning.
Staff affirmed.
The Director noted that Yorba is in the PR Zone which has separate
development standards; this type of issue has created the most
confusion within the Sign Ordinance, and that the new sign code
will have more equity.
Mr. Batley noted that the very reason that they are not allowed a
perpendicular sign, is the very reason that they need one, namely
the size of the building; that they are planning to lower the sign
near ground level in conformity with the other monument signs on
the street, which would lower the height by about one foot; that
they have noted about 30 buildings that have parallel signs on a
small frontage around the City; and that all of the signs along the
street, except the one next door, are perpendicular.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the staff agrees that all of the
signs are perpendicular.
Staff affirmed that the majority are.
The Public Hearing was closed at 9:15 p.m.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that in addition to the fact that this
building does not have frontage that permits signage, there is a
telephone pole and a light standard that block the view of the
building; and that with the applicant's concession to lower the
sign, he would be agree to allow a perpendicular sign.
Commissioner Shaheen agreed, and noted that due to their highly
competitive business and the horrendous traffic on 17th Street,
they were entitled to a decent sign.
Commissioner Baker noted that he would agree if the applicant would
lower the sign to four feet.
Commissioner Kasparian motioned, Le Jeune seconded to approve
Variance 90-03 by adopting Resolution No. 2779, revised as follows:
Page 1, 1.1: remove the first sentence "The site plan shall
be revised to show the proposed monument sign oriented
parallel to the street and in alignment with the west wall of
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the structure"; and change the second sentence to "...pedestal
base, and reduced in height by one (1) foot, to meet the
zoning code definition of a monument sign." Motion carried
4-0.
7. Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14110; Design Review 89-72
APPLICANT/
LANDOWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
LDM DEVELOPMENT
25241 PASEO DE ALICIA, #150
LAGUNA HILLS, CA 92653
LOTS 11, M, O & P OF TRACT 12870
MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC
PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 4 NUMBERED AND 7
LETTERED LOTS FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES TO
ACCOMMODATE 129 DWELLING UNITS.
2. APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN
OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission take the following
actions: 1) Approve the Environmental Determination for the
project by adopting Resolution No. 2780; and 2) Approve Design
Review 89-72 by adopting Resolution No. 2781, as submitted or
revised; and 3) Recommend City Council approval of Vesting
Tentative Tract Map 14110 by adopting Resolution No. 2782, as
submitted or revised.
Presentation: Christopher E. Jackson, Associate Planner
Staff noted the applicant's concerns about having a privately owned
and maintained sewer and water system and changed Resolution No.
2782, as moved.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that this was the first time that a
request of this nature was brought to his attention; and asked if
it was typical.
Staff noted that the Irvine Company's concern was that with a
privately owned and gated street they might not have access.
Commissioner Baker asked for a clarification of the driveway
issues.
Staff replied that cars overhanging onto their driveways inhibit
flow; that the police department would like to have them all
eliminated; and considering that there are only 13 out of 129 that
violate the standards, the police department agreed to allow some
that do not conform.
Commissioner Baker asked if there was language that would require
the homeowners association to police the matter.
Staff replied that Item 9 (H) of Exhibit A of Resolution 2782
included the matter in the CC&Rs; and changed the last sentence,
as moved.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the reason for
the requirement of less than 9 and greater than 19 feet.
Staff replied that between 9 and 19 feet there is a consciousness
that the vehicle may be overhanging onto the sidewalk; and that
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because there are 13 driveways that are non-conforming, they do not
want the tenants to park in them.
Commissioner Kasparian asked where the trash receptacles were
located.
Staff identified five locations on the map; and that they have
followed the standards of the steering committee for trash
enclosures.
The Director noted that based upon the advice of the City
Attorney's office, Condition 3.9 was added to request that a letter
be provided by Great Western Reclamation regarding handling of
recycling measures, which will soon be implemented by Great
Western.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the Statistical Summary in Exhibit
A complied with the East Tustin Specific Plan for the distance
between principal structures.
The Director replied that there are two standards within the
Specific Plan, one for attached single-family products and one for
multi-family condominiums/apartments.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that Item 1.7 should be added to the
text of Item D of Exhibit A of Resolution No. 2781; and Item G
should be changed.
The Director agreed and made the changes, as moved.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that Item 5.6 of Exhibit A of
Resolution 2782 did not apply to this project.
The Director replied that there is a separate provision for
apartments; that the project will have to be fully sprinkled, and
made changes, as moved.
The Public Hearing was opened at 9:45 p.m.
Forest Dickason, representing LDM Development, noted that they were
concerned about the trash pick up and reclamation; that they
anticipate problems providing extra dumpsters for recycling; that
he feels that the City's policy regarding the density requiring
enclosures is flawed; that he feels that they would be much better
off with individual pick ups; that Great Western has provided them
a letter approving individual pick ups, but is not within the
City's policy; and he feels that the City should re-evaluate.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there were trash enclosures at their
other facility.
Mr. Dickason replied negatively; noted that they are higher income
condominiums by the golf course; that enclosures are something
associated with apartment densities; that people at apartments do
not have two-car garages that can accommodate trash barrels.
Jon Bassman, Denelian Associates, noted that recycling was a future
issue that the City would have to deal with; that a dumpster
program might be devised, but that there will always be a few
parties who do not comply; and that a code enforcement detection
system would be difficult to enforce with a dumpster facility.
The Public Hearing was closed at 9:51 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the trash enclosures would preclude
the residents from separating their trash.
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The Director replied negatively; and noted that on the other LDM
project, the finance director granted an exception; and noted that
there are cost justifications for the homeowners and the trash
company; that all of the issues were explored with the trash
company; and that the matter was taken to the City Council East
Tustin Policy Committee who established criteria under which
individual pick ups in multi-family projects would be permitted;
all issues were fully explored and they have developed a policy
resolution in conjunction with the Irvine Company that is passed
onto the builders; the project would have to be under ten dwelling
units per acre to be granted an exception; that if they are to open
the entire East Tustin area to individual can pick up, they have
to open up the Franchise Agreement, and they are not prepared to
do so at this time; they are aware of the recycling issues; they
will not be recommending individual can pick up; and that staff
would not have the ability to waive from the policy as provided by
direction of the City Council.
Commissioner Kasparian asked how much area was being committed for
the enclosures; and if they can be used for pick up of recyclables.
Mr. Dickason replied that there are two (2) enclosures that are
10x20 feet and three (3) are 10x18 feet.
Mr. Bassman replied that he could not comment on the adequacy of
the enclosures for recycling.
The Director replied that Great Western will provide a letter to
the developer at Plan Check stage indicating their requirements.
Commissioner Kasparian asked about sidewalks along the perimeter.
Mr. Dickason replied that there will be sidewalks.
Commissioner Baker motioned, Le Jeune seconded to approve the
Environmental Determination for the project by adopting Resolution
No. 2780 as submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Baker motioned, Le Jeune seconded to approve Design
Review 89-72 by adopting Resolution No. 2781 revised as follows:
Page 2, 2.1, D should read "...1.5, 1.6, and 1.7..."
Page 2, 2.1, G: after "a maximum of 45 dBa's" add a period
and remove from "and that the" to "55 dBa's."
Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Baker motioned, Le Jeune seconded to recommend City
Council approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14110 by adoption
of Resolution No. 2782 revised as follows:
Page 2, 1.5, C: First sentence shall be removed. Second
sentence: "Terminal sewer manholes shall be provided at
property line, plus master water metering at both entryways."
should be moved up to Paragraph A to be the last sentence.
Page 6, 5.6: Change paragraph to read: "A manual and
automatic fire alarm system and fire sprinklers shall be
installed as required by the 1988 Uniform Fire Code Section,
as amended."
Page 9, H.: Last sentence "9 to 15 feet in length." should
be changed to read "9 to 19 feet in length."
Motion carried 4-0.
OLD BUSINESS
Public Works - Status of Red Curbing at Newport Avenue and
Andrews Street.
Presentation: Public Works
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9. Grading Manual
Presentation:
Christine A.
Development
Shingleton, Director of Community
Received and filed.
NEW BUSINESS
10. Capital Improvement Program - General Plan Conformity
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
2786 finding that the 1990-1991 Capital Improvement Program
conforms to the City of Tustin General Plan.
Presentation:
Christine A. Shingleton, Director of Community
Development
Commissioner Kasparian asked if item 10 was regarding the Council
Chambers; in item 30, what reconstruction of interlocking pavers
meant; about the status of the City entrance signs; and if the four
inch water lines were being replaced due to being defective.
The Director replied negatively to item 10; that since the pavers
are set in sand, and since some settling occurs, some places need
reconstruction; that construction will begin within 30 days at the
East Tustin entrances; and that the water lines are being brought
up to state of the art. The Director also noted that there would
be a budget session on June 12 at 5:30 p.m.
Commissioner Baker moved, Shaheen seconded to adopt Resolution No.
2786 finding that the 1990-91 Capital Improvement Program conforms
to the City of Tustin General Plan. Motion carried 4-0.
STAFF CONCERNS
11. Report on Actions taken at June 4, 1990 City Council Meeting.
Presentation:
Christine Shingleton,
Development
Director of Community
Received and filed.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Kasparian
-Expressed concern about the loose bench on Seventeenth
Street. The Director advised that the Public Works Department
has been advised of this condition.
-Asked about a hotel being built in the East Tustin
Development Agreement. Staff advised that the original
agreement requires a hotel.
-Encouraged staff to have Sign Code meeting in month of June.
Commissioner Shaheen
-Asked about the status of 2 story apartment complex on
Pasadena. Director advised that there had been a meeting
between the developer and the residents on Thursday, June 7,
1990. Director also advised that no agreement had been
reached. The matter would be presented to the City Council
at the regularly scheduled June 18, 1990 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
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At 10:15 p.m. Commissioner Le Jeune motioned, Baker seconded to
adjourn meeting to the next regularly scheduled Planning Commission
meeting on June 25, 1990 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
300 Centennial Way, Tustin. Motion carried 4-0.
'P~nni Foley
Secretary