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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 29v 1990
C/~LL TO ORDER:
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: Le Jeune, Shaheen, Baker, Kasparian
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1. Minutes of the May 14, 1990 Planning Commission Meetinq
2. Parcel Map 88-316
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
RECOMMENDATION
THE IRVINE COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
MINISTERIAL EXEMPTION
REQUEST TO SUBDIVIDE LOTS IN TRACT 12870 TO CREATE
TWO NEW NUMBERED LOTS.
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
2776 recommending approval by the City Council of Final Parcel Map
88-316.
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community
Development
3. Extension of Variance 88-10
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
SYCAMORE GARDENS HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION
14802 NEWPORT AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
SYCAMORE GARDENS STOCK CO-OPERATIVE
14802 NEWPORT AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
14802 NEWPORT AVENUE, TUSTIN
R-3, MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1)
PURSUANT TO SECTION 15301(a) (d) AND (k) OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
APPROVAL OF A 90 DAY EXTENSION OF VARIANCE 88-10 TO
AUGUST 14, 1990.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 29, 1990
Page 2
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
2775, approving a 90 day extension of Variance 88-10.
Presentation: Steve Rubin, Associate Planner
4. Final Tract Maps 13701 and 13990
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
AKINS DEVELOPMENT
5 PARK PLAZA, SUITE 400
IRVINE, CALIFORNIA 92714
LOCATION: LOTS 1, 2 A, B AND C OF TRACT 12870
ZONING: LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, EAST TUSTIN
SPECIFIC PLAN
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUS EIR (85-2) FOR
THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO ADDITIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
AUTHORIZATION TO SUBDIVIDE 34.5 ACRES INTO 161
NUMBERED LOTS AND 25 LETTERED LOTS TO ACCOMMODATE
161 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
2777, as submitted or revised, forwarding Final Tract Maps 13701
and 13990 to the City Council recommending approval.
Presentation: Eric Haaland, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune asked that the issue on Planning Commission
concerns related to public noticing be referred to the City
Council.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve consent
calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
5. Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14188; Design Review 89-82;
Variance 90-08
APPLICANT/
LANDOWNER:
AGENT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
STANDARD PACIFIC, L.P.
1565 WEST MACARTHUR BOULEVARD
COSTA MESA, CA 92626
MORSE CONSULTING GROUP
4860 IRVINE BOULEVARD, SUITE 201
IRVINE, CA 92720-1999
LOTS 5 AND H OF TRACT 12870
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL - EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN
THIS PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED
EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
REQUEST:
1. AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE 57 NUMBERED AND 4
LETTERED LOTS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
PURPOSES. 2. APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN AND
ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. 3.
APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 3.6.3,
SUBSECTION A.2a), RELATING TO FRONT YARD SETBACK
REQUIREMENTS.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 29, 1990
Page 3
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission take the following
actions: 1. Approve the Environmental Determination for the
project by adopting Resolution No. 2765; 2. Approve Design Review
89-82 by adopting Resolution No. 2766, as submitted or revised;
3. Deny Variance 90-08 by adopting Resolution No. 2771, as
submitted or revised. 4. Recommend City Council approval of
Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14188 by adopting Resolution No. 2767,
as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Paula Rankin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the
requirements for sprinkler systems on lots 6, 16, and 17; asked if
the protection would be residential sprinklers; and why only these
three lots were affected.
Staff replied that Resolution No. 2767, page 5, Item 5.3 refers to
fire sprinklers; that the requirement was a condition set by the
fire department; that lot 17 especially required the sprinklers
due to the shape of the lot and its access; and that lots 6 and 7
may be required to have sprinklers due to an easement.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he felt that Section 791371
regarding garages and carports was wrong and would be defeating
the intent of a setback; and that he did not think it was a valid
representation of the Commission's intent.
Staff replied that the wording was part of the applicant's
justification for the variance; she also noted that there were two
(2) changes of language in the staff report, as moved.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:16 p.m.
Kirk Watilo, 2331 Pavilion Drive, noted that his property is near
the lots affected by the construction; that with the original plans
the residents had questions regarding the slopes and setbacks; that
he questioned the drainage and if there would be a buffer in the
way of a horse trail; and asked if there would be wrought iron
fencing or block wall along the new property lines.
Staff noted that there is a five (5) foot wide easement with a
concrete drainage ditch; the property line of lot 5 is on the
upward side of the easement, but that the ditch would be separated
from the new property owners by a block wall.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the old fences would be removed.
Staff replied that there are mostly chain link fences, and did not
know if the applicant intends to replace them, or not.
Shirley Jensen, 2325 Pavilion Drive, noted that her property backs
up to lots 6, 7 and possibly 8; that she is very concerned about
drainage; that the ditch was replaced about two years ago, and was
originally about twice as large; that she has contacted the Irvine
Company numerous times after a rain because it completely floods
her yard; and that the current ditch will not be sufficient.
Staff replied that there were hydrology studies done which took
into account all of the water coming off the slopes and the streets
above, and that the new drainage system will address those.
Commissioner Baker asked for specifics regarding the water flows.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 29, 1990
Page 4
Scott Stowell, project manager Standard Pacific, noted that the new
drainage proposal gets re-routed at lot 26 into a pipe within the
tract at lot 17; it then goes to lot 6 and is taken into a culvert;
it is then taken into the storm drain system. He felt that
drainage problems from the past will be diverted and handled.
Mrs. Jensen noted that if the problem is not totally corrected, the
water will continue to drain into her yard; and asked what her
recourse would be.
Lois Jeffrey, City Attorney, noted that it behooves the applicant
should work closely with Mrs. Jensen, and monitor the drainage
system.
Mr. Stowell noted that the facility is located on a lettered lot;
it is owned by the homeowners association who has a direct means
of access and has a responsibility to maintain it; that there are
13 expensive homes that could also be affected by the drainage and
that it is in the best interest of the homeowners association and
Standard Pacific to maintain it.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if there would be a "Y" junction to
divert some of the water to an existing channel.
Mr. Stowell replied that all upstream water from lot 17 will be
diverted; that the ditch will then pick up any slope runoff; that
there is a 24" pipe behind lot 15 to drain the upper cul-de-sac on
Pavilion; and that the water is then picked up at lot 6 and taken
underground.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that part of Mrs. Jensen's problem
could be from water coming from the upper street.
Mr. Stowell noted that most of the water is outletting to natural
ground, but will not have the same opportunity to spread.
Mr. Watilo noted that it would have been nice to have a walking or
bike trail between the homes, but he sees that they have not been
included; and that they assumed that the whole drainage system
would be underground.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a description of the facility and
who would maintain it.
Mr. Stowell replied that there will be a concrete structure that
will terminate at a culvert which will be covered by a cone; that
the maintenance would be ensuring that the cone is clear to prevent
backup of water; maintenance would be ongoing and routine.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that the design seems to be more than
adequate, but that if it is not maintained then Mrs. Jensen should
take up the matter with the homeowners association.
Mr. Stowell noted that in lot 6 where there is an easement for
maintenance of the drainage facility, there is an overflow which
would divert the water onto the new streets.
Mrs. Jensen noted that before the new lots were excavated her
property was higher, but that it is now level; asked what would
now stop the water from flowing onto her property.
Mr. Stowell noted that they intend to lower the lot directly behind
her property.
Mrs. Jensen asked how much lower they intend to make the new lots.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 29, 1990
Page 5
Commissioner Baker referred to a problem that occurred previously
at Browning and Bryan and noted that the Irvine Company did a
tremendous job on the channel.
skip Shultz, civil engineer for Standard Pacific, noted that the
pad would be approximately 1 1/2 to 2 feet below existing ground;
that the natural lot is sloping away; all properties would be
draining towards the ditch; and that the top of the ditch would in
all cases be lower than the existing property owners.
Commissioner Baker asked if all existing properties would be
draining into the ditch.
Mr. Shultz affirmed; noted that the ditch is sized to accommodate
a 100 year storm; that the existing ditch outlets adjacent to her
lot may be causing the flooding; and that they will hopefully
mitigate any problems.
Mrs. Jensen noted that she felt that her property was currently
higher than the ditch; noted that if the water is rising now, and
that the new lots would be raised, that does not help her problem.
Mr. Shultz clarified his comments by stating that the lots would
be lower than the natural ground now.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if they foresaw any problems with the
new drainage system.
Mr. Shultz replied that they did not see any problems, now.
Judy Almquist, 2281 Pavilion Drive, noted that her property backs
up to lot 5; she thanked Standard Pacific and the Tustin Community
Development Department for their cooperation in working with the
homeowners in the area. She noted her concerns about the shrubbery
behind the homes, including their type; the existing ditch would
have to be reconstructed, and they are not sure where the lot lines
are; that they have a lot of foliage which acts as a guard; that
she is concerned about the CC&R's regarding addition of a second
story to the single story homes. Her main concern was the height
of the single story homes on lot 5; that they have a view of the
hill which provides extenuating circumstances; the height of the
homes on lots 14, 15, 16, and 17 are at the lowest point on the
existing lots; it sets a precedent for homes on the flat land on
future sections; and then she passed out information that was
compiled to clarify her issues. She then proceeded to dispute the
letter of 2/13/90 from Norm Smith, Vice President of Land
Development for Foothill Community Builders, mostly noting that the
homes are not all 30 years old, many are much newer, and that the
facts regarding height comparisons of single story homes in the
area were incorrect.
Glen Almquist, 2281 Pavilion Drive, noted that their main concern
was the height of the homes; passed out a photo collage of the
homes questioned in the letter presented by Mrs. Almquist; reviewed
the photo presentation with an overlay indicating the heights of
the proposed buildings were at 25 feet high; noted that the homes
do not average 30 years; that 23 feet for a single story home is
excessive for economical reasons; and that 19 foot vaulted ceilings
are very high. He also noted that the three (3) homes adjacent to
them should be compatible; that they propose a maximum height of
18-20 feet from the pad; and requested that Standard Pacific
consider rotating the homes 90 degrees so that the existing
residents do not have to look at the long side of the building.
Janine Harmon, 12232 Ranchwood, asked how the maintenance crew
would access the ditch.
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May 29, 1990
Page 6
Staff replied that at lot 6 there is a permanent easement that
could be accessed by maintenance people on foot with a wheelbarrow;
that the channel will be configured with a flat bottom; and that
gates will be provided.
Mrs. Harmon questioned the ability of a man on foot to deal with
cracks caused by an earthquake or roots.
Staff replied that the five (5) foot permanent access is for
routine maintenance; that, for major damage, there is an easement
varying from 15 to 25 feet along the ditch; that the purchaser of
the lot will be aware of the easement and machinery will be able
to move along it; that there is a wrought iron fence that can be
easily removed to allow equipment into the ditch area.
Mrs. Harmon noted that the original intent of the height of the
buildings was clearly understood; that even though there was not
a height restriction set at that time, they felt that the Planning
Commission and the City Council understood the need for
compatibility; that 23 feet is not compatible; that the Commission
sets a precedent each time a new tract map is approved; that the
Commission needs to be compassionate and understand that the
existing residents are going from gorgeous open space to accepting
development.
Mr. Stowell noted that 1) they understand the staff's recommended
denial for the variance, but they believe their request to be
valid; that their goal is to provide diversity; that the specific
plan did not adequately handle turn-in garages. 2) they concur with
staff's condition to include the paseo; but that the paseo might
encourage mid-lot crossing to the school and that their consultant
concurred. 3) Resolution No. 2766, Condition 3.1 B: they feel that
the condition is not customary and will not provide desired
results; that it will provide a constraint to the homeowner; that
they do not feel that the homeowners will like looking at the
stairs and that they might tear them out, thereby wasting the cost
incurred; and that if this condition cannot be deleted, they would
like it changed to be required on 10 feet or greater. 4) He noted
that they are sensitive to the Almquist's and others' opinions;
that they did not design the houses for volume, but included flat
ceilings; they are 4,000 square foot homes with a minimum pitch of
4 and 12; they have revised the homes down to 23 feet from 25 feet;
they have maximized the rear yard setbacks on 15, 16, and 17; and
that they designed the roofs to be less massive which increases the
amount of viewable area between the homes. The feel that they have
met and exceeded the criteria of the specific plans in every case;
they have larger lots and setbacks, and have complied with
guidelines; and that height was not a specific criteria, but they
have tried to be sensitive.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that there was a minimum pitch on the
roof, and asked if the ceiling height was minimum.
Mr. Stowell replied that the height of the ceilings were 11-12 feet
in large rooms to provide as much light as possible; that a roof
that is too low in such a large room would appear to enclose the
occupants; and that it is inconsistent with the architecture of
today.
Mrs. Harmon asked what size the room was that required an 11 foot
ceiling.
Staff replied that the kitchen/dining/family room is roughly 46
feet; there were no devising walls, but there may be three foot
high counters; and that the widths were 16-18 feet.
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May 29, 1990
Page 7
Commissioner Kasparian noted that a 40 foot long room with an 8
foot high ceiling would be like looking through a tunnel.
Mr. Almquist asked for a clarification of 4 and 12 pitch in
relation to the dimensions of the houses.
Staff replied the plans for these houses were actually almost 70
feet x 70 feet square.
Mr. Stowell noted that there are other single story homes in the
area that are 22.7 feet.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the square footages compare to that
of the new homes.
Mrs. Almquist noted that their homes are approximately 4,000 square
feet; and if there are homes that are 22 feet, then another study
should be done; and that when comparing the compatibility of
setbacks they are on 1/2 and 3/4 acres lots with large rear
setbacks.
The Director noted that it might be helpful for staff to clarify
the staff's basis for height criteria; that there was a letter
provided by the company, but that since they did not agree with all
of the points made in the letter, staff did their own evaluation.
Staff noted that they responded on March 8 with their own
evaluation; that the original purpose of the survey was to identify
heights of buildings abutting lot 5 and to identify structures of
similar height and volume of structures proposed. The applicant
initially proposed 25 feet; a lot was done to eliminate roof area;
that the structure adjacent to the Almquist's is 22 feet with an
average height of 17 feet; and that the Plan 3 home, at 23 feet,
has an average height of 17.5 feet.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for the location of the Almquist home
on Exhibit C.
Staff noted that it was the "L-shaped" lot, and it is divided by
the property line of lots 15 and 16.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification about the
possibility of modifying single story homes for a second story.
Mr. Stowell replied that within the CC&R's they will restrict
anyone from adding a second story to a single-story home; and that
the homeowners association has architectural standards and a
committee that would prohibit it.
The Director noted that staff would add a condition for the CC&R's.
Commissioner Kasparian asked about the paseo being a possible
walkthrough for school children.
Staff replied that the City Traffic Engineer felt that a paseo at
that point would allow better access to the public facilities
outside of the site; that Rollings Way ends at a T-intersection at
Township; that cars would be stopping at that point; that a
crosswalk could be placed at the north side of Rollings Way, which
would not be considered mid-block.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if staff was satisfied that this would
not propose a hazard.
Staff affirmed.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 29, 1990
Page 8
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:25 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked for a clarification of the requirement
to provide access to 36 inch slopes; if this was for general areas
or private, as well; and for slopes greater than 36 inches high,
would someone have to be able to walk across the top.
Staff replied that it would be required within backyards; that they
are concerned about maintenance of slopes that are 10-12 feet; that
it is easier to traverse across from the top; and that it would be
an access device to the top.
The Director noted that stairs may seem awkward, but that a variety
of mechanisms would be allowed just to ensure access for
maintenance.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that three (3) feet was only waist
high.
The Director noted that the slopes could be at a much greater
height within one yard, with an average height of 36 inches; and
that they are looking for grading concepts on the plans which the
applicant will provide at the point of precise grading.
Commissioner Shaheen asked how wide the top of the slopes were.
Staff noted that the width varies depending on the location.
The Director noted that the condition was a standard condition on
other projects within East Tustin.
Commissioner Baker asked if this requirement was for a typical
slope.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if this requirement has been applied
before and if the homeowners could use other mechanisms.
The Director noted that the steps could be stepping stones; and
that slopes are sometimes modified by the homeowners.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that several Planning Commissioners met
with the residents; that the main concern was backyard visibility,
which seems to be resolved; that 3-5 inches will not make a
significant difference; that drainage has been resolved; that there
needs to be a diversity in designs; that he does not think that the
new homes will detract from the value of the existing homes; and
that he does not see a valid objection to the proposal.
Commissioner Baker asked for a response on the request for a
variance.
The Director replied that there are provisions within the Specific
Plan dealing with turn-in garages, but not within this land use
designation; and that the applicant desires creation of a larger
street-scape in this area which staff cannot support due to
required variance findings.
Commissioner Baker asked if they have given up a few feet on lot
15 and 16 at the bulb at the end of the cul-de-sac.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Kasparian felt that there was nothing to warrant an
additional eight (8) feet; that moving the garages would be
detractive; that from the point of origin, there has been a
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May 29, 1990
Page 9
considerable improvement in appearance; and that the developer has
done more than his share in considering the view of the existing
homeowners.
Commissioner Baker noted that he felt a compromise should be
considered on the slope height; asked if the slope warranty would
be in effect; and asked what the maximum slope would be.
The Director replied that this tract was not within the hillside
district and there would be no slope warranty; that the slopes can
be up to about 10 feet; and suggested that the staff would consider
five (5) feet as an alternative.
Commissioner Le Jeune received a consensus for changing the
requirement from three (3) feet to five (5) feet or higher.
Commissioner Baker asked if it was the developer who decides what
mechanism the homeowner should utilize.
The Director affirmed.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if the slopes would be in the backyards
and not up the walls contiguous to the other homes.
Staff affirmed; and noted that the greatest slope occurs at the
north end and is 15 feet.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that enough concessions have been made.
Commissioner Baker asked if the houses could not encroach within
the 30 foot setbacks.
The Director affirmed; but clarified that the plate height limit
on lots 15, 16, and 17 provided further limitations.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to approve the
Environmental Determination by adopting Resolution No. 2765 as
submitted. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to approve Design
Review 89-82 by adopting Resolution No. 2766, Exhibit A, as
revised:
1) Item D, should be changed to read: "...Conditions 1.1,
1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, and 1.8..."
2) Item 3.1 B should be changed to read: "All sloped areas
greater than five (5) feet high..."
3)Item 4.1 delete item B and renumber.
4) Item 5.1 should read: "Payment of all fees is
required in accordance with Condition..."
Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner KasDarian moved, Shaheen seconded to deny Variance 90-
08 by adopting Resolution No. 2771 as submitted.
Commissioner KasDarian moved, Baker seconded to recommend the City
Council approve Vesting Tentative Tract Map 14188 by adopting
Resolution No. 2767 as revised by adding:
R) No second story addition shall be permitted on lots 6
through 17.
S) All additions on lots 15, 16, and 17 shall meet the
required minimum 30 foot rear yard setback, and no
addition shall be higher than the plate height of the
main structure.
Motion carried 4-0.
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May 29, 1990
Page 10
6. Conditional Use Permit 90-12
APPLICANT:
DIKRAN YAZMACIYAN
CAFE LE PALMIER
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
13041 NEWPORT AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
BURNETT-EHLINE PROPERTIES
2100 S. STATE COLLEGE BOULEVARD
ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA 92806
13041 NEWPORT AVENUE
C-2; CENTRAL COMMERCIAL
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT, CLASS 5, SECTION 15305(A)
AUTHORIZATION FOR THE ON-SITE SALE OF BEER AND WINE
PLUS THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE FOR CONSUMPTION OFF
THE PREMISES (TYPE 41 lICENSE) IN CONJUNCTION WITH
A RESTAURANT USE
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission approve Conditional
Use Permit 90-12 by adopting Resolution No. 2774, as submitted or
revised.
Presentation: Christopher E. Jackson, Associate Planner
Commissioner Baker asked if this restaurant was in the same
location as the Greek Restaurant; and noted that with approval of
the Greek Restaurant they allowed off-site liquor purchases.
Staff replied that it was within the same center.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked for a verification of this issue; and
recommended continuation to the next meeting.
Staff asked if the concern was related to the off-site sale.
Commissioner Baker affirmed.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of "off-site"
sales.
Staff replied that it would allow a customer to purchase a bottle
of wine or beer to be consumed off-site.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the guidelines require restriction
of off-site sales within 300 feet.
Commissioner Baker asked if this had to be noticed if they
continued it to the next meeting.
Staff replied negatively.
Commissioner Baker moved, Le Jeune seconded to continue Conditional
Use Permit 90-12 to the June 11, 1990 Planning Commission meeting.
Motion carried 4-0.
OLD BUSINESS
7. Development Status Report
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
No Planning Commission action necessary.
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May 29, 1990
Page 11
NEW BUSINESS
8. Appeal of Design Review 90-17
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
RECOMMENDATION
FAT FREDDIE'S RESTAURANT
1571 EL CAMINO REAL
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
EDGAR PANKEY
2915 BRISTOL
COSTA MESA, CALIFORNIA 92626
1571 EL CAMINO REAL
C-2, CENTRAL COMMERCIAL
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT, CLASS 1
AUTHORIZATION OF A PINK COLORED AWNING TO REPLACE
A PREVIOUSLY EXISTING TURQUOISE COLORED AWNING.
It is recommended that the Planning Commission affirm staff's
denial of Design Review 90-17 by adoption of Resolution No. 2778;
as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Eric Haaland, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what the approximate
installation was.
date of
Staff replied that it was installed approximately 8 or 9 months
ago.
Mr. Steve Zeno, co-owner, noted that the awning has been up for 11
months; that when they installed it they were unaware that they
needed a permit to change the color; that they installed this color
because it creates a happy tone that is consistent with the
restaurant; that their customers like it; that the old one was
badly in need of repair; that it cost $6,000 to install it; and
that it looks beautiful to him.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the additional neon was added
without a permit; and if they were unaware that a permit was
required.
Mr. Zeno replied that the sign company that installed it used the
same neon, but some different words; and requested that he be
allowed some time if the Commission requires him to change the
awning as they do not have the funds to purchase a new one at this
time.
Commissioner Le Jeune inquired as to the whereabouts of the
turquoise awning.
Mr. Zeno replied that it was badly damaged and unpresentable; and
that with the new awning he was trying to improve the atmosphere
of the area.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what material was used in the new
awning.
Mr. Zeno replied that it was a canvas with a coating on the
outside.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that he does not care for the color,
and, moreover, that he feels it has faded considerably in the past
year.
Commissioner Shaheen asked for a clarification of the photograph
presented to the Commission.
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May 29, 1990
Page 12
The Director noted that the turquoise awning was originally
approved; that the applicant was asked in August to address the
issue; that staff have been pursuing a Code Enforcement action for
the last 8 or 9 months and not received any response; they finally
received a letter and application in late April and scheduled the
item for the Planning Commission as soon as possible.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if they went from November to April
without a response.
The Director affirmed.
Commissioner Baker noted that they were aware of it last August.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that he felt that does not fit the
building; and that they already have a lot of exceptions with the
neon and the pole sign.
Commissioner Baker asked what the alternatives were: could he
suggest a different color, or could he remove it entirely; and that
the applicant noted that it was an economically difficult time.
Staff noted that the building was approved with the turquoise
awning so he needs a new design review application to remove it.
The Director noted that if the Commission upholds the decision,
they could give him a period of time to comply with the decision;
if he decides to remove it, they could accept it without a new
design review fee.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he felt since there are turquoise
appointments on the building, he could go back to turquoise, and
he prefers to insist on it instead of working with four or five
different colors that might be similar to rose.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if this would go on to the City
Council.
The Director replied that the Commission's decision was final on
a design review appeal.
Commissioner Baker moved, Le Jeune seconded to deny Design Review
90-17 by adoption of Resolution 2778 as submitted. Motion carried
4-0.
STAFF CONCERNS
The Director advised that the Commissioners had been provided with
the formats for the Standard Conditions of Approval and Resolutions
and she would like their comments within one week.
9. Report on Actions taken at May 21, 1990 City Council Meeting.
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community
Development
Received and filed.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 29, 1990
Page 13
COI, I~ZBBZON CONCERNS
Commissioner Kasparian
-Asked about the required restriping of Andrews and Newport
as result of the shopping center project. Staff advised that
Public Works Department has been advised and that parking is
limited, due to the construction, and restriping would be done
at the conclusion of the construction and that they will again
refer this to the Public Works Department. Commissioner
Kasparian asked for a member of the Public Works Department
to attend the next Planning Commission meeting to respond to
his concerns.
-Expressed his concern about the sign problem, wanted to know
if we could get full time enforcement. The Director advised
that this is being addressed, a request for a full-time code
enforcement officer has been submitted for the next budget and
that it will be presented to the City Council within the next
few weeks. She also stated that at this time the southwest
portion of the City was receiving priority and enforcement is
being handled on a complaint basis. She further advised that
Staff is currently working on a sign ordinance.
-Asked about the legality of shopping centers with shared
parking where tenants are putting their names and time limits
on parking spaces. The Director replied that the Code is
silent on the matter. Where there is a problem during certain
times of the day, staff has authorized some time limit or
tenant restrictions on certain projects.
Commissioner Baker
-Wanted to know if we could limit the use of Canvas/temporary
type signs.
Commissioner Shaheen
-Advised that there is still a problem at 2371 Apple Street,
dumping of paint in driveway, Mercedes parked on side with
weeds growing around it, paint being stored next to vehicle.
Staff advised that a reinspection would be conducted.
-Asked about the status of the Cosmopolitan Apartments. The
Director advised that we are sending out a Notice and Order
at this time, advising of the violations and laying out
corrections needed and specific time frame for the corrections
to be completed.
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Stated that he noticed many time limits on parking spaces and
does not think it is appropriate. The Director advised that
the issue would be addressed in the parking ordinance.
-Asked if Budget Workshop had begun and is it open to the
public. The Director advised that the preliminary workshop
is scheduled for June 4, 1990, 5:00 p.m. and is open to the
public.
-Asked when the next meeting of the Downtown Historical
Society was scheduled and if someone had a complaint to whom
do they appeal. The Director replied that the Committee does
meet on a regular schedule. Complaints and appeals are
however referred to the Planning Commission, not the Cultural
Resources Advisory Committee.
-Advised that Allways Space still has barbed wire and
extensive use of temporary banners.
Commissioner Baker
-Announced that the Chamber Mixer is this Thursday, May 31,
1990, 5:30 p.m., at Sanwa Bank, 701 E. First Street.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 29, 1990
Page 14
ADJOURNMENT
At 9:30 p.m. Commissioner Kasparian moved, Baker seconded to
adjourn meeting to the next regularly scheduled Planning Commission
meeting on June 11, 1990 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
300 Centennial Way, Tustin. Motion carried 4-0.
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