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TUST~'N PLANN'FNG CONM'rfJf~'rON
REGULJ~R MEETING
APRIL 30, 3.990
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7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
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1. Minutes of the April 9, 1990 Planning Commission Meetinq
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the subject regarding public
noticing was scheduled for a future agenda.
The Director replied that there will be an informational memorandum
forthcoming regarding this subject.
Commissioner Baker moved, Shaheen seconded to approve the consent
calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Temporary Use Permit 90-3
APPLICANT:
AUTOMATE
14402 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CA 92680
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
EUGENE F. TUTT
P.O. BOX 461
TUSTIN, CA 92680
14042 RED HILL AVENUE
C-1 - RETAIL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1)
EXTENSION OF TEMPORARY USE PERMIT FOR AN ADDITIONAL
SIX (6) MONTHS
RECOMMENDATION - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve the subject Temporary Use Permit by Minute Order.
Presentation: Anne Bonner, Planning Technician
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the property behind the station had
been torn down, and if the station was to be removed in the future.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 30, 1990
Page 2
Staff replied that the adjacent structure had been taken down, and
that the station will remain but they will lose the pole sign.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:05 p.m.
Mr. H. G. Cooper, president of Automate, noted that the pole has
had their name on it for almost 10 years; that with it being 75
feet high it was the tallest in Orange County; that thousands pass
it daily; that it is a substantial sales tax generator; that 20-
25% of their business is due to the sign; that since the removal
of the sign, they have had numerous calls daily asking if they are
still in business; and that they have a letter from Cal Trans
intimating that they could "grandfather" the sign to another part
of the property. Also, that there is a property condemnation
hearing set for next September; that the property owner does not
have enough funds to put up another sign; that the burden of
responsibility lies with Cal Trans; that they paid for a sign with
the lease; that they should not have to put up $10-20,000 for the
installation of a new sign; and that they would like a six (6)
month extension for the temporary sign until such time that they
determine the intent of Cal Trans and the property owner.
Commissioner Shaheen asked why they needed six (6) months; and
asked the staff why they were only recommending 90 days.
Mr. Cooper replied that six (6) months is the longest that the
Commission will grant an extension for; that when the gas station
closes, the applicant intends to take over the whole property; and
that at this time they do not have any freeway oriented signage.
Staff replied that only the property owner would be receiving any
settlement money; that staff has not seen a special agreement
between the applicant and the property owner; and that he is able
to apply for a permanent wall sign.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if it was correct that whether the
Commission granted three (3) months or six (6) months, the
applicant would be installing his own wall sign.
The Director replied affirmatively.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if it was reasonable to expect the
applicant to submit plans for the sign he expects to install after
the Cal Trans construction is completed; and he asked if the
difference between three (3) and six (months) approval meant that
the applicant would have to apply a second time.
Staff replied that the applicant wishes to submit plans after the
Cal Trans work is completed; however, that staff believes the
applicant can proceed with the sign prior to Cal Trans action and
has determined that three (3) months is a reasonable time for the
applicant to have plans drawn up.
Commissioner Baker noted that the entire construction project along
the freeway has been a problem; that he thinks six (6) months would
be acceptable; but that he does not care for a tall pole sign.
Mr. Cooper noted that the September hearing was
applicant but with the property owner; and that
permanent sign as soon as possible, not a banner.
not with the
they want a
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what type of permanent sign they
wanted.
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April 30, 1990
Page 3
Mr. Cooper replied that they would like the largest sign that the
City would approve.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the applicant felt that Cal Trans
suggested that a grandfather clause would permit them to reinstall
a 75 foot pole sign.
Mr. Cooper affirmed that their original understanding was that the
sign would be taken down and moved to another location.
The Director noted that she believed that the pole sign (billboard)
had been previously denied a Variance for relocation on the same
site; that the City has written correspondence from Cal Trans
indicating that the sign (billboard) did not meet the 500 foot
setback requirements from a landscaped freeway; and that Cal Trans
verbally represented to the City that they would not support the
pole sign unless the City did.
Mr. Cooper noted that they have never received any correspondence
from the City or Cal Trans regarding this information.
The Director replied that the property owner applied for a variance
request on the property over 12 months ago.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the applicant felt that three (3)
months was an inadequate amount of time to submit plans for the new
building sign.
Mr. Cooper replied that one of the reasons for the six months
extension is financial.
Commissioner Baker asked for a clarification from staff on the
financial issue.
The Director replied that any financial hardship incurred by the
business for replacement of the sign or loss of goodwill would be
negotiated by Cal Trans with the property owner and would be
unlikely that Cal Trans would be negotiating directly with the
leaseholder.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:22 p.m.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that even though it might cost the
applicant additional money, he would have to apply twice, anyway;
and that he felt that three (3) months was adequate.
Commissioner Baker asked if the applicant would be negotiating with
Cal Trans between now and September.
Commissioner Shaheen stated that he felt that there was no reason
to deny the applicant the six (6) month extension; and that by
limiting the approval to three (3) months would they be forcing the
applicant to install a permanent sign.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Baker seconded to approve Temporary Use
Permit 90-3 for six (6) months by minute order. Motion carried 3-
1, Kasparian opposed.
3. Use Permit 90-08
APPLICANT: FERIDOUN REZAI
203 TROJAN STREET
Planning Commission Minutes
April 30, 1990
Page 4
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
ANAHEIM, CA 92804
SAME
15642 PASADENA AVENUE
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREPARED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
ACT
REQUEST: APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A TWO AND ONE HALF STORY, 11
UNIT APARTMENT PROJECT ON A PARCEL THAT IS ADJACENT
TO AN R-1 (SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL) LOT AND WITHIN
150 FEET OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
RECOMMENDATION - Pleasure of the Planning Commission.
Presentation: Steve Rubin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the shadow study was equivalent to
a worst case shadow.
Staff replied that the model made the profile of the building worse
than normal and that the example is perhaps the biggest shadow that
would possibly be cast for the two dates indicated, but that the
study did not truly evaluate the impacts on all properties.
Commissioner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the types of
trees proposed for the eastern elevation.
Staff replied that evergreens would be installed for year-round
screening.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:40 p.m.
Mr. Phillip Schwartz, representative for Mr. Rezai, noted that they
prepared revisions to the architecture; did shade and shadow
studies based on the worst case of summer and winter; and that
installation of trees would alter the shading. He also rebutted
the claim that property values would decrease; noted that they have
done their best to mitigate the issues; and asked for an
opportunity to rebut any forthcoming comments.
Paul Zukowsky, 15641 Myrtle, noted that even though the Carl's Jr.
sign would have no direct impact on any residents, the Commission
disallowed a height increase, whereas, this issue affects a lot of
people; that the residents submitted a petition of 60 signatures;
he asked if laws were to protect the criminal or persons violated;
he asked if the zoning laws were to protect the planners or the
citizens; he asked how the decision was reached that allowed this
conditional use permit to be granted. He quoted City Code 9291(c)
regarding use Permits and noted that the petition shows that
morals, comfort and general welfare are at stake; that the
photographs presented were taken with a deceptive lens to make the
new building look farther away from the property lines; that even
with removal of the end bedroom they still have a monstrosity to
look at; that the project is not in conformance with the rest of
the neighborhood; that the project affects the residents of the
entire neighborhood, that the project would be setting a precedent
in the area; if the same number of people had turned out for the
original public hearing, this building would have never been
approved.
Ms. Kathleen Arnold, 15631 Myrtle, is opposed to this project, and
read the ordinance regarding this type of construction. She asked
how this Conditional Use Permit was permitted; the buildings are
injurious and detrimental to their property; that they cannot use
their backyards as they have no privacy; that the dumpsters are
proposed at the back fence and will be noisy early in the morning
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April 30, 1990
Page 5
when the trucks empty them, and there will be odors and flies since
the covers will not always be closed; that they have no view now;
that their living rooms look directly out into their backyards;
that the apartments will lower their property values; that
modification to the units are not acceptable, and that the entire
buildings should be demolished and started over.
John Landolfi, 15661 Myrtle, noted that he could not understand how
this project could be allowed to be put up; that a drive-by view
of the units from the neighborhood was not enough, he offered the
Commission an opportunity to view the buildings themselves; the
buildings should be cut down to one story to complement the rest
of the neighborhood.
Sandra Zukowsky, 15641 Myrtle, offered Commissioner Shaheen (who
was absent at the previous meeting) photographs of the views from
their residences.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there was a copy of the petition for
the Commissioners' review.
The Director replied that they had one in the files.
Ms. Zukowsky noted that she felt that the planning department did
not have the resident's best interest in mind in March 1989; noted
that she felt that this project was in violation of Tustin Zoning
Code 9291. She asked if zoning codes are permitted to be violated,
who would protect her family and the residents of Tustin, and where
would the Commission draw the line for future applicants. She felt
that the applicant's proposed changes were insulting; and that she
would like to see this project reconstructed to conform to the rest
of the neighborhood.
Kathleen Arnold, spoke for Laconda Mitchell: Ms. Mitchell is very
angry. She feels that the builder has invaded her privacy. She
cannot open her shades and blinds without viewing the horrible
monstrosity ten (10) feet from her wall, she has not had a decent
night's sleep since its construction. She recommended the original
request to demolish it be put into effect. She then read a letter
from a realtor indicating that the apartment complex would devalue
Mrs. Mitchell's property by a comparable value of $20,000.
Dean Karels, 17191 Corla, stated that most people will not be home
from work yet at 3:00 p.m. at the time of the shade and shadow
studies. He wanted to know what it would be like at 5 or 6 p.m.
He asked what a study would look like with a building with a peak
roof. He noted that he felt that a gross injustice had been done
to the neighborhood; that the building is injurious and detrimental
to the neighborhood; that the comparison of the Tustin Royale
senior's building presented by Mr. Schwartz at the last meeting was
not a comparable building; that he feels that this building should
be torn down and re-excavated and graded and that the builder
should submit new plans.
David Worsba, 15662 Myrtle, rebutted Mr. Schwartz's shade and
shadow study for the worst times presented; noted that the distance
of the chimney from Mrs. Mitchell's yard is only 8.3 feet; that
this project is setting a precedent which would be dangerous for
the neighborhood; that the building does not conform to the
neighborhood; that the project will create negative property
values; that even if there is a cost involved to tear down the
building and start over, it should be done; that there is a
proportionally greater impact on the two (2) adjacent property
owners who are widows; that the project should be torn down and
replaced by a single story building.
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April 30, 1990
Page 6
Ms. Jane DeMong, noted that comparative values are now $20,000
lower in the area. They expect the City of Tustin to take care of
the residents, and to at least obey the laws; asked if the list is
going to get lost again; and noted that she loves Tustin, but does
not like to see this kind of thing happen.
Ms. Mary O'Rourke, 15632 Myrtle, noted that she feels that the only
acceptable alternative is to tear down the building and rebuild as
a one story unit; based on the original City Code; that this
project is a definite infringement on their homes; that should this
building be allowed to continue in its present state, with the
applicant's minor adjustments, the environmental state of affairs
will no longer be a small problem as the report now states; that
she has a great pride in Tustin; and that Conditional Use Permits,
variances, etc. should be especially scrutinized; that the people
in the neighborhood have invested their money, homes, and lives in
improving Tustin, they pay taxes and have rights; that the only way
is to oppose apartments that are built to other than the original
Code.
Mr. Mark Mensario, 15761 Myrtle, noted that he has been a resident
on Myrtle for 27 years; when they did put in apartments behind his
residence, they were relieved that the ordinance required that they
be single story within 150 feet of the property line; that the
Commission has to see the building to believe what a monstrosity
it is and invited the Commission to view it; that he shares the
concern about the property values being negatively impacted; that
he would favorably consider the original rules set up applying to
residential areas.
Ms. Josepha Walsh, 17281 Corla, noted that the shadow will affect
the heat in pools; that the sun is almost overhead in the afternoon
and is not an effective time to measure the study; and commented
that the building should be returned to one story, and should not
be allowed to be built within eight (8) feet of the property line.
Mr. Karels commented that at the last meeting the cost that the
applicant has incurred was brought up, but that this type of
endeavor is a risk; and he hopes that the cost of this project is
not an issue at this time.
Mr. Schwartz commented regarding this evening's comments; read from
the staff report of April 9, page 5, paragraph 2, and indicated
that Mr. Rezai has completed the tasks required; this project meets
the City's codes; that this is a family-investment; that the
construction loan is on-going; that the modifications incur a heavy
financial impact on Mr. Rezai; that the photographs are city-
provided; that he questions the letter from the real estate agent,
because, as a sales agent himself, he would not tell the Commission
anything regarding an appraisal since it is a violation of the law
and their code of ethics.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the shade study was conducted with
a flat roof at worst case.
Mr. Schwartz noted that they squared the building at the top peak;
that the study indicates the worst case at December 21 and June 21
(then moved away from the microphone to explain the illustrations).
The Director noted that what was provided was rudimentary and did
not provide staff with the ability to fully evaluate and quantify
the impact on all the potential properties that could be affected
by shade and shadow; that what has been provided is inadequate;
that what is required by CEQA is to define the impact on all
properties, and the information provided will not allow that.
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April 30, 1990
Page 7
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if additional work would have to be
done.
The Director affirmed.
Chester Miraq, 15622 California Street, noted that he could not
understand why on an important issue like this that the Commission
did not receive a copy of the petition; asked why the applicant
should do the shade study; and should not an impartial person do
the study.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked staff who is responsible for a shade
and shadow study.
The Director replied that shade and shadow studies are done and
paid for by the applicant.
Mr. Mirag continued by stating property values have dropped; that
if one bedroom can be removed, why not 11; the people of Tustin are
the ones who pay for the Commission, and they come first; and that
the only way this can be solved is by the Commission viewing it
themselves.
Mr. Zukowsky, noted that he purchased his home five (5) years ago;
when they could afford to purchase a house, they put every penny
into the house; that he feels that he has gone through more
hardship than the builder could ever; that the Commission is for
the people of Tustin, not Anaheim, etc.; that the people of Tustin
are all crying out for the Commission to listen to them; and they
are saying "tear it down!"
Kay Toice, 17262 Medallion, noted that she is a part of the
community that is being affected; that it is not just the four or
five homes behind the building, but the whole neighborhood; that
the 17 people left off the list would have had this input before
the use permit was granted; that the applicant would not have had
this cost if he had made sure the mailing list was correct; and
that this building should be torn down or at least taken down to
one story.
Ms. DeMong asked if there are more trees, who will water the trees
when rationing is in effect.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:35 p.m.
Commissioner Shaheen asked how many people are involved in the 300
foot radius.
Staff replied that there are 73 names on the mailing list.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that 17 people represented 20%.
The Director noted that when a mailing list is not provided by a
title company staff checks for accuracy; but they do not check when
the work is done by a title company; that the title company
information was either purposefully or unpurposefully faulty; that
immediately following original complaints they notified the City
attorney's office and ordered the builder to stop work.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that he feels that the people are
correct and that this should be reopened.
Commissioner Le Jeune replied that the matter has been reopened and
brought back to the Commission; and that they are to make a
determination based upon the staff report.
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April 30, 1990
Page 8
Commissioner Kasparian noted that there is a lot of reference to
the Code and the legality of what occurred; that this property has
been zoned as R-3 for a long time; and that everything done up to
date in an R-3 lot has been allowed, even up to 35 feet high.
The Director noted that 35 feet is allowed provided that within 150
feet of an R-1 zone a Conditional Use Permit would have to be
approved.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that, at the time, the project was
originally approved by a Conditional Use Permit.
The Director replied that the original action was null and void due
to the improper noticing.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that whether it is legal or not it is
half completed.
The Director replied that the findings that would have to be made
would be based upon the staff report and the information from the
Public Hearing.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that if a title company fails to give
proper notification, then the title company is at fault.
Tom Nixon, City Attorney, noted that the original Conditional Use
Permit was determined to be invalid due to the improper
notification; that regarding the action of the Commission this
evening is to determine if a CUP should be issued at this time; and
that specific findings would be required to determine that the
particular use would not be injurious to the adjacent property.
The Director noted that an alternate would be to not take a
specific action and require the applicant to provide additional
alternatives; if what has been provided is inadequate, the
Commission could take action and deny the CUP or provide additional
direction to the applicant modifying the project.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that they are almost back to designing
by committee; and that he finds it difficult to suggest
alternatives.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that he felt that a meeting of the title
company, the property owner, and the builder was necessary to
determine fault.
Commissioner Le Jeune replied that they needed to provide direction
so that the project can proceed; that financial consideration was
not an issue.
Mr. Nixon replied that the financial aspect as a detriment to the
properties in the area is one factor of many that the Commission
should look at; and that the issue of fault is not a factor as to
whether issuance of a use permit is appropriate.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the expenses incurred by the
builder to date are also not a factor to be considered.
Mr. Nixon replied that the expenses of a builder are not to be
considered; that the Commission looks at a project as a whole
and the impact of the project on the surrounding area.
Commission Le Jeune asked if they were now back to "square one".
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April 30, 1990
Page 9
Mr. Ni~on affirmed.
Commissioner Baker asked if the original CUP was invalid, and to
issue a new Use Permit were they required to have new findings; and
noted that they were not provided with findings.
The Director replied that the Commission did not direct staff to
provide findings at the last meeting, but to explore an alternative
design by the applicant.
Commissioner Baker commented that at the last meeting it was not
clear to him that the original CUP was invalid.
The Director replied that it was made clear in the staff report and
during the meeting of April 9.
Commissioner Baker asked if Commissioner Kasparian was aware of the
invalidity.
Commissioner Kasparian voiced his surprise.
The Director noted that staff also provided a confidential
memorandum provided by the City Attorney's office.
Mr. N~xon noted that it was the opinion of the City Attorney that
if the original CUP was challenged in court by these residents left
off the mailing list, the challenge would be successful and the CUP
would be declared invalid.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that if plants were one of the
mitigating measures, they should be required to plant those that
only grow to a height to insure privacy; that it is obvious that
a mistake has been made, but it was not a mistake by the builder;
and that the original CUP was justified by no complaints being
received from the property owners at the time; but he feels that
they would not have approved a building this tall.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Shaheen seconded to deny Conditional
Use Permit 90-08 by minute order. Motion carried 4-0.
The Director provided findings based upon Resolution No. 2762:
A) Establishment, maintenance, and operation of the use
applied for, under the circumstances of this case, will be
detrimental to the health, safety, morals, comfort, or general
welfare of the persons residing or working in the neighborhood
of such proposed use, as evidenced by the following findings:
1) The proposed project is not in conformance with
existing single family residences located within 150 feet
of or adjacent to the subject property, or with existing
apartments on the east side of Pasadena Avenue (north and
south of the subject property), as all of the single
family residences are one story in height and the
neighboring apartment projects fare either completely one
story in height or one story within 150 feet of the
R-1 zoned properties.
2) The proposed project will impact the privacy of the
adjacent single family residences as bedroom windows of
the proposed apartments will be able to look down into
rear yards of said residences.
3) The proposed project will cast shadows over the
adjacent single family residences that will encompass a
majority of the rear yards and in some cases, will often
extend beyond the houses themselves into portions of the
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April 30, 1990
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front yards.
B) The establishment, maintenance, and operation of the use
applied for will be injurious or detrimental to the property
and improvements in the neighborhood of the subject property,
and to the general welfare of the City of Tustin, and
therefore should not be granted.
Commissioner Le Jeune informed the audience that the matter would
most likely be appealed to the City Council.
The Director noted that the residents will be notified.
4. Amendments No. 2 to Conditional Use Permit 87-7 an 79-20
APPLICANT/
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
ROLLO S. PRICKFORD, PASTOR
RED HILL LUTHERAN CHURCH
13200 RED HILL AVENUE
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA 92680
13200 RED HILL AVENUE
PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CATEGORICALLY
EXEMPT (CLASS 1), PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
SECTION 15301 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT.
TO CONVERT AN EXISTING 2,100 SQUARE FOOT BASEMENT
INTO A LIBRARY AND COMPUTER LEARNING AREA AND TO
ENCLOSE AN EXISTING 2,025 SQUARE FOOT SHADE
STRUCTURE INTO THREE PRE-SCHOOL CLASSROOMS.
RECOMMENDATION - It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Amendment No. 2 to Conditional Use Permits 87-7 and 79-
20, by adoption of Resolution No.1 2768, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Christopher E. Jackson, Associate Planner
Staff made changes to the staff report, as moved.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the entire complex was originally
designed for 400 students and if they have not exceeded 400.
Staff affirmed.
The Director asked staff to reread condition 4.4 to determine if
it still applies to the noise ordinance.
The Public Hearing was opened at 9:15 p.m.
Mr. David Bell, spoke on behalf of the church.
Commissioner Baker asked what will happen to the current library.
Commissioner Kasparian asked how many students were in the computer
room at any given time.
Mr. David replied that the library will move to the basement and
the current room would be expanded to accommodate a larger art
room; and that there would be about 10 students using the room.
Mr. Richard Yaberg, 13162 Silver Birch Drive, noted that he lives
across the street from the church; that they are having a problem
with settling; that within 300 feet there is a house that has been
sitting empty for 12 years due to a poor foundation; the house next
to his has leaks and cracks; that there are more people coming to
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April 30, 1990
Page 11
use the school; that they are getting landlocked and are having
trouble competing with the traffic generated by the school; and
asked why the notification was only published in the Tustin News.
Commissioner Le Jeune replied that it may be the only newspaper
that would pick up on local hearings.
The Director noted that they have to use a newspaper of local and
general circulation; that the Register and the Tustin News both
would print local hearings, but it was policy to use the Tustin
News.
Mr. Yaberq noted that there could be possible flooding in the
computer room if it is located in the basement.
Mr. Rollo Prickford, 1111 St. Vincent Place, noted that the present
school attendance is about 220, which is approximately 100 less
than a couple of years ago; and that these changes would not make
a significant impact on traffic in and out of the parking lot.
The Public Hearing was closed at 9:25 p.m.
Commissioner Baker noted that since the school was originally
approved for 300-400 students, there is no change in the number;
the changes presumably will not change the numbers; that he
appreciates the comments about the computer room being flooded;
that he realizes there is daily traffic going in and out of the
church; but he sees no reason to deny the request.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that the computer room flooding is for
the applicant's consideration; that the cracks in the street are
not germane to this issue, but should possibly be addressed to the
staff.
Commissioner Le Jeune had no problem with the application; but
asked staff if the Public Works Department should respond to this
gentleman's concerns.
Commissioner Baker moved, Kasparian seconded to approve Amendment
No. 2 to Conditional Use Permits 87-7 and 79-20, by adoption of
Resolution No. 2768, as revised: Page 1 of Resolution, item I-A
sentence should read as follows: ...Red Hill Lutheran Church .... ;
Exhibit A, Page 3, 4.4, delete "said activity"; Exhibit A, Page 4,
insert paragraph between 4.4 and Fees: "Basement Library and
Computer Room Conversion A. Plans shall comply with building
codes, City ordinances, and State and Federal law and regulations.
This includes Title 24 (e.g. energy and handicap accessibility,
etc.) If similar use is not proposed on ground level then handicap
accessibility is required." Motion carried 3-0, Shaheen absent.
OLD BUSINESS
5. Development Status Report
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded to receive and file
Development Status Report. Motion carried 3-0, Shaheen absent.
6. Update Water Department Facility
Presentation:
Christine Shingleton, Director of Community
Development
No Planning Commission action necessary.
NE~ BUSINESS
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April 30, 1990
Page 12
ST~FF CONCERNS
Report on Actions taken at April 17, 1990 City Council
Meeting.
Presentation:
Christine Shingleton, Director of Community
Development
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Kasparian
-Requested that the Planning Commission review Standard
Resolutions for editorial content. The Director suggested
that the Commission receive copies of the Design Review and
Subdivision Resolutions and make corrections concurrently.
-Requested information regarding the status of the Citywide
recycling program. The Director advised that the Public Works
Department is handling exclusively and will transmit
information as available.
-Asked whether the Notice of Public Hearing to property owners
could go out via certified mail. The Director replied that
ensuring mail goes out is not the problem and suggested that
due to mail cost and time involved it would be more cost
effective to utilize first class mail as permitted by law.
He asked if the Director had experienced anything like the
notification issue on the Pasadena Project before. The
Director responded that in her 18 years in planning, the
Pasadena Project was the most severe noticing problem she had
seen.
Commissioner Baker
-Asked if tapes had been purchased from the League of
California Cities meeting. The Director advised that she
thought they had been ordered and that she would follow up.
Commissioner Le Jeune
-Asked if there were any qualifications required of a person
requesting public information. The Director replied that
there may be a charge for information and it may not be
readily available, but that public information was available
to anyone.
-Asked about the status of the Market Place Auto Sculpture.
The Director replied that she had not heard from the developer
but believes there may be plans to plant grass in place of the
rocks.
-Advised that the Sign Committee was making significant
progress and would be scheduling a meeting in a couple of
weeks.
-Asked about fish flags at Ricoh. The Director advised that
they were for a special celebration and did have a temporary
use permit.
-Suggested that even though we are meeting required State
procedures on the Public Hearing Notification he would like
to see the City's procedures exceed the minimum notification
requirements. The Director advised that the Community
Development Department had implemented a new procedure to
prevent this from occurring again.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 30, 1990
Page 13
At 9:45 p.m. Commissioner Kasparian moved, Le Jeune seconded to
adjourn to the next regular scheduled Planning Commission meeting
on May 14, 1990, at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300
Centennial Way, Tustin. Motion carried 3-0, Shaheen absent.
Chairman
Penni Foley/~
Secretary