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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 27, 1989
CALL TO ORDER:
7:00 P.M., City Council Chambers
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
ROLL CALL:
Present: Pontious, Le Jeune, Baker, Shaheen,
Kasparian
The Director introduced two new Planning Commission staff members,
Susan Tibo, and Paula Rankin.
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1. Minutes of the November 13, 1989 Planning Commission Meeting
2. Final Parcel Map 88-350
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
CALIFORNIA CIVIL, INC. ON BEHALF OF THE IRVINE
COMPANY & THE LAURELWOOD HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION
THE IRVINE COMPANY
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
AT & SF RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY ADJACENT TO TRACT 8029
SOUTH OF THE I-5 SANTA ANA FREEWAY
ZONING:
PLANNED COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS: CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT, CLASS 15
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November 27, 1989
Page 2
REQUEST:
APPROVAL OF A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION, CREATING A .48
ACRE PARCEL IN A PORTION OF THE ABANDONED AT&SF
RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY.
RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
recommend approval of Final Parcel Map 88-350 to the City Council
by adopting Resolution No. 2707, as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Steve Rubin, Associate Planner
3. Amendment to Conditional Use Permit 89-03 and Design Review
88-62
RECOMMENDATION: Pleasure of the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Baker seconded to approve the Consent
Calendar with the following modification to paragraph 2, page 26
of the minutes changing "November 27, 1989" to "December 11, 1989".
Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. Use Permit 89-40
APPLICANT
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
KEVIN KRAGENBRINK
HOPE CHRISTIAN CHURCH
1372 IRVINE BLVD.
TUSTIN, CA 92680
1372 IRVINE BOULEVARD
PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CATEGORICALLY
EXEMPT (CLASS 5) PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
SECTION 15305 OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT.
A REQUEST FOR A USE PERMIT TO ALLOW COLONIAL BIBLE
CHURCH SCHOOL TO OPERATE ITS K-6 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
AT THE HOPE CHRISTIAN CHURCH (1372 IRVINE BLVD.)
FROM DECEMBER 1, 1989 TO JUNE 15, 1990.
RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
take the following action; 1) Determine that private schools are
similar to public schools and are a use permitted subject to a use
permit approved in the Public and Institutional District by minute
order, and; 2) Approve Use Permit 89-40 by adoption of Resolution
No. 2711 as submitted or revised.
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November 27, 1989
Page 3
Presentation: Christopher Jackson, Associate Planner
Commissioner Kasparian asked if this application would be affected
if the State or County refuses a day care license as possibly
required in Item 1.5 of Exhibit A of Resolution 2711; and if the
traffic study takes into account the affect of a rainy day on
traffic flow.
Staff replied that it would affect the before and after school
care, but not the normal school hours from 8:45 to 2:45; and that
the traffic study was done based on a worst case scenario, which
would probably include rainy days.
The Director noted that this facility has an abundance of parking;
loading is only required in 21 spaces; and as long as adequate
signage is installed directing the traffic into and out of the
site, it should not affect traffic on Irvine Blvd.
Commissioner Pontious felt that people would enter the facility
from Red Hill to avoid a left turn at Fourth Street; and asked if
the one-way traffic would prohibit this entry; and if a few of the
spaces in the south section of the lot could be designated for
loading and unloading.
Staff replied that as there are parking spaces on the south side
of the building, people will be able to enter from Red Hill; the
available spaces would not be assigned; that there are about 35
spaces in the area, which would accommodate the 14 spaces required
for staff and any others; and that they could designate two or
three spaces along the south side and move the employee parking to
the southern perimeter.
The Director noted that the Traffic Engineer recommends that a
letter be sent to each enrollee identifying the entrance as Irvine
Boulevard. only, with a one-way system required.
Commissioner Kasparian made corrections to Exhibit A of Resolution
2711, as moved.
The public hearing was opened at 7:20 p.m.
Kevin Kragenbrink, Pastor of Hope Christian Church, noted that
traffic entering from Red Hill would have access to the Tustin
Plaza, via a cooperative agreement; they would be willing to
designate spaces for loading on the south side of the lot, but he
noted that there are a substantial number of spaces available in
the morning and afternoon. He also asked if there could be any
consideration to allow them to take occupancy as stipulations are
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November 27, 1989
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being met, especially in regard to the building department
requirements; the school is hoping to move in on December 4; fire
upgrades are being made; and if the remaining upgrades were not
safety related, could they possibly get a temporary occupancy
permit.
The Director replied that the Planning Commission had no authority
over the Uniform Building Code; since the new use is converting
office areas for assembly use, safety issues are paramount; the
staff could bond on signage, but could not vary from the Building
Code.
Commissioner Pontious asked if grades 3-6 would still be located
in another area.
Mr. Kraqenbrink replied that it is no longer applicable.
Commissioner Baker asked if the facility has been inspected by the
Fire Department, as yet.
Mr. Kraqenbrink replied that there has been a preliminary fire
inspection done and that they are in compliance; sprinklers will
not be required if the second grade is kept on the first floor; the
remote alarm system is being installed as per the requirements.
The Director noted that the Fire Department would provide a set of
approved plans with locations of sprinklers that might be required;
and that the applicant needs to coordinate with the Fire Department
to provide a letter and a stamped approval of the site plan with
any improvements.
Staff commented that the fire alarms are required, but that the
sprinklers are not required as long as the second grade is on the
first floor.
The public hearing was closed at 7:26 p.m.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Baker seconded to determine that
private schools are similar to public schools and are a use
permitted subject to a use permit approved in the Public and
Institutional District by minute order. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Shaheen moved, Baker seconded, to approve Use Permit
89-40 by adoption of Resolution No. 2711, revised as follows:
Exhibit A, item 2.4 (4) add "and require six (6) additional 90
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degree loading and unloading parking spaces on the south side with
removable signage."
Item 3.5 reference should be to the Orange "County" Fire
Department.
Item 3.7 reference should be to first or second "grade" pupils
Item 4.1, line one, delete "submit"
Item 4.1, C. first word on line 6 should be "then"
Item 4.1, F reference should be to Orange "County" Fire
Department.
Motion carried 5-0.
5. Variance 89-18
APPLICANT/:
OWNER
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
KEVIN ELLIS
18561 SANTA ISADORA
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708
13662 GREEN VALLEY DRIVE
R-3 2700 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT (CLASS 1)
TO PERMIT A 119 SQUARE FOOT FRONT ROOM ADDITION TO
AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A 3.6 FOOT SIDE
SETBACK WHERE A MINIMUM 5 FOOT SETBACK IS REQUIRED.
RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
approve Variance 89-18 by adopting Resolution No. 2712 as submitted
or revised.
Presentation: Eric Haaland, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Baker asked for a clarification of the location of the
proposed construction.
The Director replied that the room had already been constructed
without benefit of building permits prior to the home going into
foreclosure.
Commissioner Baker asked if that fact had been noted in the
Resolution.
The Director replied that the staff report details it as a
"partially completed" room; it is not occupied, as they have not
received a permit for occupancy.
The public hearing was opened at 7:35 p.m.
Mike Caro, partner of applicant, noted that the house was purchased
with a lot of problems, but that they were unaware of the absence
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of a variance.
The public hearing was closed at 7:36 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Baker seconded to approve Variance 89-
18 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2712 as submitted. Motion
carried 5-0.
6. Design Review 89-40 and Conditional Use Permit 89-41
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
IN-N-OUT BURGER, INC.
13502 E. VIRGINIA AVENUE
BALDWIN PARK, CA 91706-5885
THE IRVINE COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
P. O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
2992 EL CAMINO REAL (TUSTIN MARKET PLACE)
PLANNED COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL: EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC
PLAN - MIXED USE COMMERCIAL
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUSLY
CERTIFIED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE EAST
TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN (FINAL EIR 85-2), WHICH SERVES
AS A PROGRAM EIR FOR THIS PROJECT. NO ADDITIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
AUTHORIZATION TO CONSTRUCT A 3,148 SQUARE FOOT FAST
FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THRU WINDOW IN THE
SOUTH ENTERTAINMENT VILLAGE OF THE TUSTIN MARKET
PLACE
RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that the Planning Commission:
1) Adopt Resolution No. 2708, certifying that Final EIR 85-2 is
adequate to serve as the Program EIR for the subject project; and
2) Adopt Resolution No. 2709, approving Design Review 89-40 and
Conditional Use Permit 89-41, for the In-N-Out Burger restaurant,
subject to the conditions contained in Exhibit A, attached thereto,
as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Steve Rubin, Associate Planner
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the tower was the same height as E1
Pollo Loco's tower.
Staff replied that the E1 Pollo Loco tower would be 32 feet and
this would be 28 feet high.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if they were using the approved colors.
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Staff replied that the colors proposed by the applicant were on the
small materials board, but that staff has required the colors be
changed to the darker shades of tan and purple from the approved
materials board; and that the window and door frames are a bronze
color as shown on the plans, but have been changed to a white
color.
Commissioner Shaheen felt that the building lacked interest.
Staff replied that they are requiring additional landscaping with
additional embellishments; the darker color paint will accent the
shadows; the accent colors will be painted on the inside of the
reveals; all of this will provide greater interest.
Commissioner Shaheen commented that the building did not look like
any of the other In-N-Out Burger facilities.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that neither did the E1 Pollo Loco.
Commissioner Baker asked if there was any further information
regarding the new laws from AQMD for drive-up windows.
The Director replied that there was very tentative information; at
this point it is not mandatory; there is flexibility in the local
application of the plan; there has been no additional follow-up
from AQMD on when they would affect local jurisdictions; and it
would only affect future approvals of drive-up windows, not
existing.
Commissioner Kasparian asked if the corporate red and yellow colors
would be permitted; and if the soils engineer required by Exhibit
A of the Resolution should be registered.
Staff affirmed.
Commissioner Pontious asked for a clarification of the relocation
of the lot line.
Staff replied that a lot line adjustment had already been approved.
The public hearing was opened at 7:48 p.m.
Leo A. Laure, representing In-N-Out Burger, noted that they
understood and agreed to all of the conditions as set by the staff.
The public hearing was closed at 7:49 p.m.
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Page 8
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Baker seconded to adopt Resolution No.
2708, certifying that Final EIR 85-2 is adequate to serve as the
Program EIR for the subject project. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Shaheen seconded to adopt Resolution
No. 2709, approving Design Review 89-40 and Conditional Use Permit
89-41, for the In-N-Out Burger restaurant, subject to the
conditions contained in Exhibit A, attached thereto, as submitted.
Motion carried 5-0.
Second Amendment to Use Permit 88-8, Variance 89-16 and Use
Permit 89-36
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
RUBY'S DINER, DOUG CAVANAUGH
17212 WHITTIER STREET
COSTA MESA, CALIFORNIA 92627
COLCO LTD., JIM COLLINGS
17320 RED HILL AVENUE, SUITE 190
IRVINE, CALIFORNIA 92714
17582 E. SEVENTEENTH STREET
OAK TREE PLAZA
PLANNED COMMUNITY - COMMERCIAL (PC-C)
THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CATEGORICALLY
EXEMPT (CLASS 1) PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
AUTHORIZATION TO MODIFY SITE PLAN, PERMITTED USES,
REQUIRED PARKING AND SIGN PROGRAM AND TO EXCEED THE
MAXIMUM SIZE PERMITTED FOR A REAR ELEVATION SIGN AND
TO PERMIT THE ON-SITE CONSUMPTION OF BEER AND WINE
RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No 2710 approving the modification to Use Permit
88-8, adopt Resolution No. 2713 approving Use Permit 89-36,
permitting on-site sale of beer and wine and adopt Resolution No.
2714 denying Variance 89-16 relating to the size of a rear
elevation sign.
Presentation: Sara Pashalides, Associate Planner
Staff noted that the variance application for the sign had been
withdrawn.
Commissioner Baker asked for a clarification of Table 1; and
questioned the figures presented.
The Director noted that the 30% walking traffic figure was an
assumption that the Traffic Engineer supports based upon standard
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engineering practice; also by parking demand studies and
methodologies prepared by the Urban Land Institute, and the
American Planning Institute; the technical support documents have
been provided to the Commission in the past.
Commissioner Baker asked if the 30% reduction would be applied at
all times; and if there really could be less of a parking need at
1:00 than at 12:00.
Staff replied that the 30% reduction does not apply at 10:00, but
does between 12:00 and 3:00.
Commissioner Pontious noted that her experience supports the
assumption that there is less traffic at 12:00 than 1:00.
The Director commented that the figures are based on field
experience of the traffic experts; the 30% factor is standard; and
the figures cannot be manipulated easily.
The public hearing was opened at 8:05 p.m.
James Coilings, Colco Ltd., noted that he was available for
questions.
Commissioner Pontious asked the applicant if he agreed with all of
the conditions.
Mr. Collings affirmed.
The public hearing was closed at 8:06 p.m.
Commissioner Shaheen commented that if the staff was comfortable
allowing fewer spaces than normal, then he agreed.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked about the previous application for
additional square footage for medical use, and if there is no
objection to retail centers having medical offices.
The Director replied that at the time that Dr. Carter's application
came before the Commission, the justification for a traffic study
was not input by the applicant; without the justification, there
was not basis for staff recommending approval of the proposal;
staff's original concern was to not piece meal any approvals for
parking reductions until a traffic study was completed.
Staff noted that the applicant was uncertain of the tenant mix, and
could not produce a traffic study at that time.
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Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there would be any more restaurants
in the center.
The Director replied that the conditions are explicit, showing
suite numbers with maximum square footages for restaurant uses; the
locations are pre-fixed, and any modifications would have to be
brought back to the Commission. She noted that Condition 1.4 of
Exhibit A of Resolution 2710 is important, in that the applicant
agrees to sign an agreement stating that they cannot apply for any
modifications to the mix of uses on the site in the future.
Commissioner Baker asked how many spaces were lost due the changes
in the flood control plan.
Staff replied that nine (9) spaces in the rear and two (2) in the
front would be lost; 195 square feet would be lost from the video
building, and approximately 2,000 square feet overall; then number
of parking spaces that were eliminated was unaffected by the
changes, as noted in the parking study.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if there were other examples of
building over flood control channels.
Staff replied that the bank building in the next center was built
over the same channel; the new requirements could be due to changes
in the Orange County Flood Control District policies, or due to
inabilities to work through the conditions and necessary paperwork.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that he felt that the mixed-use
parking idea was a more realistic approach than to rigidly apply
numbers for compliance; that the condition requiring new applicants
to go through the procedure for qualifying for the existing number
parking spaces was appropriate; and that he does not take the
figures as absolute.
The Director noted that Condition 1.5 has been added as a failsafe
in case a parking problem is reported in the future; a new parking
study would have to be provided, and if a parking problem is found
to exist, the applicant has to mitigate these impacts.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Shaheen seconded to adopt Resolution
No 2710 approving the modification to Use Permit 88-8. Motion
carried 5-0.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Shaheen seconded to, adopt Resolution
No. 2713 approving Use Permit 89-36, permitting on-site sale of
beer and wine, as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
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OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
8. Emergency Services Preparedness Plan Status
RECOMMENDATION: Receive and file.
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Senior Planner
No Planning Commission action necessary.
Commissioner Shaheen asked if the plan covers coordinated efforts
from each section of the City, with team captains; if there was a
7-8 point earthquake tomorrow, could the City go into action; and
if there is a communications center.
The Director replied that the City is updating the plan to add
annexes; it will be a more state-of-the-art plan consistent with
State law; and that each department has responsibilities with
resources identified; but that a measured simulation would test the
plan; communications are handled by the police command center.
Commissioner Pontious asked if there was anything in the plan to
upgrade properties that are below standard.
The Director replied that under the Unreinforced Masonry Ordinance,
the City must provide a survey by January 1, 1990 to the State
Seismologist of structures that have been certified and; a program
must be submitted regarding how the City intends to facilitate any
rehabilitation. Until the Building Official position is filled,
there will be no more work done other than that required by January
1, 1990. Once the new official is on board, in approximately six
weeks, they will work with the property owners in developing a
program. Also, there needs to be a program that goes beyond
advising people that their buildings are substandard.
STAFF CONCERNS
9. Actions of the November 20, 1989 City Council Meeting
Presentation:
Development
Christine Shingleton, Director of Community
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Le Jeune noted his concern regarding the neon sign at
Walnut and Newport for Carburetor King asking if a sign is non-
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November 27, 1989
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conforming if the copy has been changed.
The Director noted that if any improvements were made that required
a building permit including those that extend the life of the sign,
then the conformance of the sign would be looked into. There are
some technicalities that will be dealt with in the new sign code.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that there is some sub-standard housing
at the corner of E1 Camino Real and Browning.
The Director noted that some of that property will be impacted by
the freeway widening.
Commissioner Kasparian noted that on Irvine Boulevard between
Newport and Holt there is a sign that is broken and dilapidated
and he would like to see some enforcement done on this sign. He
also noted that he contacted Southern California AQMD regarding the
Certification of testing equipment, specifically at Pro-tek. He
indicated that he was very satisfied with their test equipment
monitoring procedures.
ADJOURNMENT
At 8:38 p.m. Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Baker seconded to adjourn
to the next regular meeting of the Tustin Planning Commission on
Monday, December 11, 1989 at
Chambers.
Penni Foley
Secretary
7:00 p.~. in the City Council
Leslie Annd Pontious
Chairman