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TUSTIN PLANNING COIRNISSION
REGULAR HEET'[ NG
DECEFIBER 12, 1988
CALL TO ORDER:
7:00 p.m., City Council Chambers
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ROLL CALL:
Present: Well, Baker, Le Jeune, Pontlous, Shaheen
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1. Minutes of t~e November 28, 1988.~lanning Commission Meeting
Commissioner Wetl moved, Ponttous seconded to approve the consent calendar. Motion
carried 5-d.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. General Plan Amendment 88-02 and Zone Change 88-02 (San Juan Apartments)
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
MESA DEVELOPMENT COMPANY
2925 COLLEGE AVENUE, #A-3
COSTA MESA, CALIFORNIA 92626
ATTENTION: MR. LARRY CAMPEAU
1432 SAN JUAN STREET
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
1) GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 88-02; TO RECLASSIFY THE GENERAL PLAN
LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM C (COMMERCIAL) TO MF (MULTI-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL)
2) ZONE CHANGE 88-02; TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM PC-C1
(PLANNED COMMUNITY/RETAIL COMMERCIAL) TO R-3 (MULTI-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL)
Recommendation: Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt Resolutions
No. 2546 and 2547, denying General Plan Amendment 88-02 and Zone Change 88-02.
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December 12, 1988
Page two
Resolution No. 2546
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN,
CALIFORNIA, DENYING GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 88-02 A REQUEST TO
CHANGE THE LAND USE MAP OF THE GENERAL PLAN FROM C (COMMERCIAL)
TO MF (MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL) FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1432 SAN JUAN STREET.
Resolution No. 2547
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN,
CALIFORNIA, DENYING ZONE CHANGE 88-02 A REQUEST TO REZONE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1432 SAN JUAN STREET FROM PC-C1 (PLANNED
COMMUNITY/RETAIL COMMERCIAL) TO R-3 (MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL).
Presentation: Daniel Fox, Associate Planner
Commissioner Wetl asked if there was any response to the notices that were mailed.
Staff responded that there were no written responses, that only one call was received
and that was to verify that the subject project was not the same project in which he
lived.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the zoning requests were originally made by a church.
Staff responded that it was not, that this was a request for separate properties to
be rezoned.
The public hearing was opened at 7:09 p.m.
Josephine Vau~hn, 1431 San Juan Street, Tustin, noted that originally all of the
property belonged to the church, which subsequently sold certain parcels. She stated
that she felt that 10 apartments on that property would be too conjested and adequate
parking would not be provided. She noted that five apartments would be acceptable
and that she would like to know more information regarding this project.
Larry Campeau, 2925 College Avenue; A-3, Costa Mesa, California 92626, noted that
the applicant on the staff report should be San Juan Apartments, and not Mesa
Development Company. He stated some background on the project, that in February he
entered into an escrow with a condition that the property was zoned R-3. He said the
City told him that the zoning was R-3 and that the City wanted something other than
what was existing on that street. They tried to design a compatible project and put
parking quasi-subterranean. They submitted plans to the City on June 3rd. On July
15th they closed escrow. He stated that he had received the conditions of approval
for the construction drawings, removed the hazardous materials and demolished the
building that was on the property. On October 5th they turned in the plans for
approval. He indicated that the Community Development Department had made an error
and that the property was not zoned R-3. His options were to redesign or rezone. He
stated that they had already invested $70,000 plus the cost of the lot. They had
designed an upscale three bedroom apartment complex with units of 1100 square feet
that would rent at $1,000 per month. He stated that the property on both sides of
the proposed project was zoned the same. He was not concerned with the church or
baseball diamond as a neighbor to the complex. He also noted that affordable housing
is this developers' specialty.
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December 12, 1988
Page three
Dorothy Kellams, 1401 San Juan Street, Tusttn, spoke in opposition of the project.
She noted there was already too much traffic in the area at all times and that there
was a tremendous parking problem. She felt that there was not a need for any more
apartments or condominiums in this immediate area.
Commissioner Shaheen noted that the area was inappropriate for commercial.
Jeraldine Vaughn, 1431 San Juan Street, Tustln, stated that she felt that a real
estate office, church or office would be appropriate, however, that apartments would
create more traffic in an already congested area.
Mr. Campeaux, noted that there were 24 designated parking spaces on the site.
The Director noted that the Planntng Commission was unable to condition a zone
change.
Lois Jeffrey, Deputy City Attorney, noted that in this case the City did a review but
the applicant did not receive any written approval. She indicated that the
applicant was aware that the development process is very risky. One of those risks
is mistakes. Another risk is that the Zoning or General Plan will change before the
project is finished. This is an issue of vested rights which is a harsh issue and is
a normal risk of development. The developer has no vested rights until a butldtng
permit is issued, as long as the permit wasn't issued in error. There are no equity
rights. Unfortunately, these are the normal risk of the developer process.
Mr. Campeaux asked if the Planning Commission could approve a Zone Change
conditioning approval to development of their specific project.
Lois Jeffrey, indicated that handling this process in that manner would be considered
spot zoning, or parcel by parcel zoning, which ts not what the City desires.
Mr. Campeaux stated that he was disturbed that he went to the ultimate source and
thought he was upgrading the area. He stated that he understood that this was a
risky business.
The Director added that the developer had submitted plans which had not been
approved; the plans were in the preliminary review process. There were still many
unresolved matters. As an example, in three separate plan reviews, the City asked
for a legal description that was never adequately provided by the applicant. This in
itself complicated the zoning determination issue.
The public hearing was closed at 7:40 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked staff if the plans were submitted and reviewed if the
first thing to verify would be the zoning.
The Director responded affirmatively but noted that the plans were in preliminary
review and that zoning questions still existed because of the lack of a legal
description originally being provided for the property.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked what could be built on this property.
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December 12, 1988
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Staff responded that PC C-1 allows a wide range of uses including retail, office,
commercial and small scale retail uses subject to a Conditional Use Permit after a
Planning Commission public hearing.
Commissioner Shaheen asked staff if the property were rezoned residential if
the City could require condominiums to be built at this location.
Lgls. Jeffre¥ noted that this was a legal issue and that the City could not restrict
the district to owner occupied units or condominiums.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the issue could be dealt with later.
The Director stated that there are no public hearings under the R-3 designation for
future submittals and that Zone Change and General Plan would establish the maximum
density of the project with no discretion by the Commission.
Commissioner Well asked if it was possible to designate the property as R-3 at 2700
square feet to reflect the area across the street enabling the developer to construct
six units on the property.
Staff responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Well stated that she felt a .41 acre office project facing San Juan
would be detrimental and that she had reservations leaving the commercial
designation. She also had reservations converting this area to an R-3 designation.
She noted that she had driven by and noticed that the parking and traffic problems
were definite concerns. She felt that the R-3 2700 square foot cut down the density
and the parking burden considerably.
The public hearing was re-opened at 7:47.
Mr. Campeaux noted that the project would not make a profit with only six units and
it would be questionable if eight units would break even. He stated that he was
stuck with a piece of property that did not have a commercial frontage. He also
noted that he did not want to cheapen the project.
Commissioner Wetl noted that the problem is that an experienced contractor should not
go into a project without proper verification.
Mr. Campeaux noted that he felt building permits would be issued when he received the
conditions of approval from staff.
Lois Jeffrey noted that escrow had closed prior to any plan check approval.
Commissioner Wetl asked if the developer had written conditions of approval.
Lois Jeffrey noted that he had a list of corrections needed plans, no plan check
approval.
Mr. Campeaux noted that he did not know if six units would make a profit.
The public hearing was closed at 7:55 p.m.
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December 12, 1988
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Commissioner Le Jeune asked for more information regarding the project.
The Director noted that the building would be three stories on one level but classed
as a two story, but some elevations are actually three stories in height.
Commissioner Baker agreed that this was a difficult problem but felt that the City
should stay with the existing program.
Commissioner Well noted that she preferred to see an office project on that site.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that this was not the proper place for a commercial
project.
Commissioner Ponttous noted that she saw both sides; that the lot does not lend
Itself to a commercial development and that R-3 would probably be a better use for
the stte.
Commissioner Well asked if a designation of R-3 2200 could be used in order to allow
eight units on the site.
Lois JeffK~¥ noted that there were only R-3 1750 and R-3 2700 and that the developer
has the right to develop the property to the maximum.
The Director noted that she did not feel it possible to establish an R-3 2200
designation.
Staff noted that when the area was annexed the R-3 2700 square foot designation was
established to mirror the county zoning. Both are legitimate zoning based on
compatibility with the surrounding areas, anything else would be spot zoning.
The public hearing was opened at 8:03 p.m.
Geraldine Vaughn asked if she could tear her house down and build four or five units.
The Director indicated that it depends on the parcel zoning. Ms. Vaughn is allowed
to build to the maximum of the zoning designation. The code varies depending on the
size of the property. She also offered to met with Ms. Vaughn to review the zoning
possibilities for her property.
Donald Saltarellt, 13751 Red Hill Avenue, Tustin, property owner of the adjacent real
estate office, noted that the developers are good people that are trying to do
something constructive with the church property. He also added that the developer
may have paid a high price but that is not a valid reason for inappropriately
allowing something to be built. He noted that it would be nice if the developer
could do something economically advantageous, but not at the neighbors expense. He
also noted his concern about a three story building in this area. He also cautioned
the Commission that staff had researched the recommendation thoroughly.
The public hearing was closed at 8:10 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if it was advisable to postpone the application to look
at an alternative.
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December 12, 1988
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Commissioner Wetl stated that the Commission seemed undecided.
The public hearing was re-opened at 8:10 p.m.
Mr. Campeaux requested a continuance.
The Director noted that if the application were modified, the City would have to
renotice for another public hearing.
Staff noted that the City would need to know if there were any changes in the
application prior to December 19th.
The public hearing was closed at 8:13 p.m.
Commissioner Well noted that the Commission was sensitive to the monetary clock.
Commissioner Baker inquired if the developer had drawn on the construction loan.
The public hearing was re-opened at 8:15 p.m.
Mr. Campeaux noted that he had drawn $270,000 from the construction loan.
The public hearing was closed at 8:17 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Pontious seconded to continue this item until the next
regular meeting on January 9, 1989. Motion carried 5-0.
OLD BUSINESS
3. Sign Code Amendment - Update
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community Development
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that he would like to have a committee meeting before
bringing the Sign Code back to the Commission.
Report was received and filed.
4. Sidewalks in Industrial Areas
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community Development
Report was received and filed.
5. ~91tcy on Temporary Use Permits for Cold-air Balloons
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community Development
Staff was directed to submit a staff report to City Council.
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December 12, 1988
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NEW BUSINESS
STAFF CONCERNS
6. Report on Actions Taken tn December 5, 1988 City Council Meettng
Presentation: Christine Shtngleton, Director of Community Development
The following Items of tnterest were on the December 5th Ct ty Counctl agenda:
Variance 88-7
Final Vesttng Tract Map 13096
EIR 88-02 for the Second Redevelopment Plan Amendment
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Baker asked staff to look 1nfo the size of the slgnage at the Ctrcle K
on Newport and Mitchell.
Staff responded that the signs had been approved by a Use Permit.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked If further color changes at Tusttn Market Place could be
approved at staff level.
The Director noted that any colors for signs other than Terra Cotta and Purple would
have to be approved by the Commission.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked If the lot behtnd Sizzler was approved for Christmas tree
sales.
The Otrector noted that staff approved a 30 day Temporary Use Permtt for the lot,
whtch ts standard procedure.
Commissioner Baker asked what the authorized color of the Tusttn Market Place
monoltthe was.
The Dtrector responded the color was purple.
Commissioner Ponttous noted that the color purple has put Tusttn on the map. She
also noted that ther~ were flags at the Taco Bell.
The Otrector noted that she ts In the process of setttng up atratntng session for
the Commissioners tn the beginning of the year.
Commissioner Well asked that a portton be added to staff reports nottng that the
public heartng nottces were sent out and how many responses were received. She
thanked the Irvlne Company for their sensitivity to the colors at the Market Place
and asked staff tf it was posstble to hold a workshop regarding the Clubhouse for the
Golf Course.
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December 12, 1988
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AI)dOURI~qENT
At 8:35 p.m. Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Well seconded to adjourn to the next
regularly scheduled meeting on January 9, 1989. Motion carried 5-0.
Chairman
Penni Foley
Secretary