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TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSIOM
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 11, 1988
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7:30 p.m., City Council Chambers
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Present: Puckett, Wetl, Baker, Le Jeune, Ponttous
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1. Minutes of the March 28, 1988 Planning Commission Meeting
2. Final Vesting Map No. 13094
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
REQUEST:
BRAMALEA CALIFORNIA, INC.
LOTS 1,2,D,F,G & H OF TRACT 12763
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN -
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
TO SUBDIVIDE A 20.47 ACRE SITE INTO 103 NUMBERED AND FOUR (4) LETTERED
LOTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
RECOMMENDATION:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission recommend to the
City Council approval of Final Vesting Map 13094 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2486, as submitted or revised.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Pontlous seconded to approve the consent calendar.
Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARING
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Zoning Ordinance Amendment 87-4
Cultural Resources District
Recommendation:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission continue the
public hearing on this matter until April 25, 1988.
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community Development
Planning Commission Minutes
April 11, 1988
Page two
The public hearing was opened at 7:37 p.m.
Mr. Frank Greinke, 230 S. "A" Street, noted his concerns with the language of the
March 28th draft of the Ordinance. He stated that he was more in favor of an Overlay
Center run by the neighborhood rather than a District which would bring the City
government into the picture. He noted the following areas of the Ordinance that he
felt contained potential problems: E-l, E-5, E-7, I-1.4, K and Section 3.
Commissioner Baker asked what the difference was between a District and a Center.
Mr. Grelnke noted that a center indicated that the neighbors could do their own thing
and a District indicated governmental authority .
Commissioner Baker moved, Le Jeune seconded to continue the public hearing on this
matter to the April 25, 1988 Planning C6mmission meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Use Permit 88-3
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
RANDY WOLFE/RICHARD MAIDEN ON BEHALF OF SOUTH COAST CHRISTIAN
CENTER, INC.
JUNE PERFIT
193 EAST MAIN STREET
CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT (C-2); EL CAMINO REAL SPECIFIC PLAN
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AUTHORIZATION TO OPERATE A CHURCH USE
Recommendation:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission deny Use Permit
88-3 by the adoptton of Resolution No. 2476.
Presentation: Christine Shlngleton, Director of Community Development
The public hearing was opened at 7:50 p.m.
Mr. Randy Wolf, 17891 Norwood Park, stated that they had not been meeting in the
building since they promissed the Planning Commission they would not. He indicated
that he had called the Police Department and was told that there was no need for a
permit to meet in the parking lot.
Mr. Phillip Cox, indicated that he owns a parking lot within 300 feet of the proposed
church located at 405 and 415 E1Camino Real and 120, 130, 140 and 150 Main Street.
He stated that he welcomes the use of the parking lot by the church and has given his
permission for that use.
Mr. Larry Pierce, 8 Amberwood, Irvine, indicated that he was working on obtaining a
long term lease of 28 parking spaces at the corner of E1 Camino Real and Second
Street and another 35 parking spaces at another location. He indicated that he had
very positive responses.
Commissioner Wetl asked Mr. Pierce to contact the City when those leases were firm.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 11, 1988
Page three
Mike Ralston, 14721 Livingston Road, indicated that the application was for offices,
retail and training center, not a church use. He noted that the bookstore would
enhance the Old Town area and to comply with the E1 Camino Real Specific Plan. He
indicated that the the Sunday morning (10 to 12) assembly was for purposes of
organized worship and training sessions, that it was not a church. He agrued that
the Christian training was a B-2 occupancy use and not an A.3 use which a church
would fall into, as the Building Official stated.
Mr. Milford Hack, stated that he was a Christian lawyer, retained by South Coast
Christian Center, concerned about the classification definitions, and indicated he
felt there was discrimination involved. He had concerns that the Building Official
reflected inaccurate definitions.
Commissioner Well asked him to read the document that had these definitions (the
Building Official's memo dated April 5, lg88 to Christine Shingleton)
Mr. Hack read the pages one and two of the memo (attached).
Mr. Ralston, noted that all of the statements are true if the occupancy use is A-3.
They intend to be a B-2 use.
Mr. Hack, stated that the assupmtion is based on a zone change from B-2 to A-3, and
that they are 1/3 office, 1/3 bookstore and 1/3 worship training. He stated that
they did not need an A-3 occupancy.
Commissioner Well asked Lloyd Dick, Building Official to respond.
Lloyd Dick gave a brief presentation noting that the plans were reviewed with the
Fire Department and that the main concern is life safety. The definitions are those
of the Uniform Building Code or Webster's Dictionary. The Building Code determines
that the occupancy load is determined by the square footage of the building not the
use of the building.
Commissioner Puckett asked if the issue was that the building is just not safe.
Mr. Dick noted that the masonry is an issue for anyone using that building.
The Director noted that there is no argument against retail or office use. However,
an intended assembly use is different. She also noted that at the last meeting the
applicant predicted at least 100 persons assembling at this location for worship
services. Upon a resubmission of plans with the inclusion of general notes applicant
had revised plans to show less people so that they could argue that building
improvements would not have to be made.
Mr. Dick noted that the building did not have adequate exiting for an assembly
usage.
Commissioner Wetl asked what the Fire Department's opinion was regarding the
requirement of sprinkler systems.
Mr. Dick noted that the Fire Department interpretation of the use was the same as the
Uniform Building Code; A-4 that an A-3 occupancy usage would require a sprinkler
system.
Planntng Commission Minutes
Apr11 11, 1988
Page four
The Director interjected that the information that the Commission has been provided
with by staff indicates an A-3 occupancy determination. The Building Code does not
have a variance procedure. The Building Official and the Fire Department do not feel
comfortable allowing an assembly usage in a B-2 occupancy. It is up to the Building
Official to determine the occupancy classification of a building, not the applicant.
Commissioner Le Jeune asked if the Commission has the authority to change a decision
based upon the building code.
Lois Jeffrey, Deputy City Attorney, noted that the City has adopted the Uniform
Building Code as a part of the City Code. The Building Official determines the codes
and discretionary authority is vested in him.
Mr. Ralston, noted that the Building Official is allowed to determine if the
occupancy use has changed. He suggested that they could occupy the building and as
soon as they exceeded the limits of the UBC the Building Official could require that
the necessary structural changes be made and the sprinkler system be installed. But
as of now, he felt that they were meeting the B-2 requirements.
Commissioner Well questioned if Mr. Ralston was an attorney.
Mr. Ralston said that he was not an attorney, that he was in the development
business. He conceded that there would be 50 people attending the services, which
will require the installation of sprinkler systems. He suggested that they could
occupy the building as a B-2 usage until there were more than 50 people, then
possibly move the meetings to another location. He stated that they will operate in
accordance with a B-2 occupancy and they will be in accordance with the Old Town
Theme.
The public hearing was closed at 8:40 p.m.
Lois Jeffrey, Deputy City Attorney, responded to the Commission that it is not the
number of people but the square footage that would allow more than 50 people. The
potential for one person per every 7 square feet (that area is in excess of 1900
square feet) would actually allow in excess of 270 people to occupy that building.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the first application was to hold services for 100
people. He thought that if a pastor was running it, it was a church. He was not
willing to overrule the building department on classification designations.
Commissioner Baker agreed, noting that in general comments the applicant indicated
that they had 17 existing parking spaces. They were also entering into agreements
for an additional 43 parking spaces which would provide parking for approximately 180
people. He wondered what the difference between church services and organized
worship training was.
Commissioner Ponttuos noted that she had no problem with the retail or general office
at that location, however, she did have problems with the assembly use.
Commissioner Puckett noted that this was a difficult matter, he would like to see the
establishmnent and success of the church but it was in an inq)roper location.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 11, 1988
Page five
Commissioner Baker noted that a retail occupancy would be great at this location, but
he wished that the building were in better shape.
Commissioner Wetl agreed with all of the Commlstoners noting that the Commission has
great respect for and must rely on their own experts such as the Building Official
and the Fire Department. She indicated that she thought the applicant felt
prejudiced. She assured South Coast Christian Center that there was absolutely no
prejudice as far as the City is concerned. The issue is public safety.
Pastor Wolf noted that he is a teacher of Algebra and Bible, that his students call
him Pastor when he teaches Bible and chapel.
Commlssoner Le Jeune moved, Pontlous seconded to deny Use Permit 88-3 by the adoption
of Resolution No. 2476. Motion carried 5-0.
Environmental Impact Report 88-01, Conditional Use Permit 88-01 apd. Design
~view 88-10
SUBJECT: ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
AND DESIGN REVIEW 88-10
APPLICANT/PROPERTY
OWNER: CONTINENTAL MEDICAL SYSTEMS
P.O. BOX 715
MECHANICSBERG, PA 17055
LOCATION:
ZONING:
88-01, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 88-01
165 N. MYRTLE AVENUE AND 14581YORBA STREET
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL (P & I) AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE -
YORBA STREET SPECIFIC PLAN
REQUEST:
RECOMMENDATION:
1.
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AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR USE PERMIT
88-01 AND DESIGN REVIEW 88-10.
AUTHORIZATION TO PERMIT:
1. CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW DETACHED HOSPITAL BUILDING OF 56,000 SQUARE
FEET WITH A TWO (2) STORY UNDERGROUND PARKING STRUCTURE TO
INCLUDE 40 NEW BEDS AND APPROXIMATELY 9,750 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE
SPACE; AND
2. REMODELING OF AN EXISTING 17,180 SQUARE FOOT 57 BED HOSPITAL
FACILITY TO MATCH THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURE OF THE 56,000
SQUARE FOOT HOSPITAL BUILDING.
It is recommended that the Planning Commission:
Certify Final Environmental Impact Report 88-01 by the adoption of Resolution
2485 as submitted or revised.
Approve Use Permit 88-01 by the adoption of Resolution 2484 as submitted or
revised.
Approve Design Review 88-10 by the adoption of Resolution 2483 as submitted
or revised.
Presentation: Laura Cay Pickup, Acting Senior Planner
Planning Commission Minutes
April 11, 1988
Page six
Commissioner Baker noted that his main concern was traffic.
Commissioner Weil asked why the oxygen tank was enclosed.
Staff noted that the tank was not a volatile type. The tank must be stored on a
concrete base, to protect the tank from being bumped by cars and trucks and for
aesthetics the enclosure was built around it.
The public hearing was opened at 9:03 p.m.
The public hearing was closed at 9:04 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune said it was a terrific project.
Commissioner Well asked that on Resolution No. 2484, Exhibit A, Page three, 3.1 be
worded to read: "Should any complaints of noise exceeding the requirements of the
Tustin Noise Ordinance be received, the developer shall be required to install
muffling equipment which reduces construction related noise to levels in conformance
with the Tustin Noise Ordinance."
The Director also noted that Resolution No. 2485, Exhibit A, Page 2, Paragraph 5 be
changed to reflect that same wording.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Baker seconded to certify Final Environmental Impact
Report 88-01 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2485 as revised. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Ponttous seconded to approve Use Permit 88-01 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2484 as revised. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Ponttous moved, Baker seconded to approve Design Review 88-10 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2483 as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
6. Use Permit 88-9
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
THE IRVINE COMPANY
550 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE
NEWPORT BEACH, CA. 92660-9959
SOUTHWEST CORNER OF JAMBOREE ROAD AND IRVINE BOULEVARD
PORTION OF LOT 13, TRACT 12763
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL (NC)
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS BEEN FILED FOR THIS PROJECT ACCORDING
TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
TO INSTALL A HOME FINDING CENTER ON LOT 13 OF TRACT 12763 OF EAST
TUSTIN DEVELOPMENT
Re comme nda tt on:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission approve Use Permit
88-9 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2487.
Presentation: Christine Shlngleton, Director of Community Development
Planning Commission Minutes
Aprtl 11, 1988
Page seven
The Director revised Resolution No. 2487, page 2 to add "C. Final landscaping plans
for the perimeter of Lot 13 adjacent to Jamboree Road and Irvine Boulevard shall be
subject to approval of the Community Development Director." Items C through 0 should
be relettered to D through P.
Commissioner Wetl asked why a use permit is being used.
The Director responded that this is not a permanent structure.
The public hearing was opened at 9:15 p.m.
Steve Lefever, representing the Irvine Company, indicated that he was there to answer
any questions the Commission might have.
Commissioner Puckett noted that it was a perfect site and was needed for the East
Tusti n area.
Commissioner Pontlous added that it will be a positive addition.
Commissioner Pontlous moved, Baker seconded to approve Use Permit 88-9 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2487 as revised. Motion carried 5-0.
7. Use Permit 88-7
APPLICANT:
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS:
REQUEST:
INNOVATIVE GRAPHICS, INC.
833 N. ELM STREET
ORANGE, CA 92668
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
4833 FOUNTAIN AVENUE
LOS ANGELES, CA 90029
14511RVINE BOULEVARD AT THE
INTERSECTION OF RED HILL AVENUE
PROFESSIONAL OFFICE (PR)
CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT CLASS 11
TO PERMIT MODIFICATION OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE
PERMITS AUTHORIZING PLACEMENT OF A TENANT IDENTIFICATION MONUMENT
AND WALL SIGN
Recommenda tt on:
That the Planning Commission approve Use Permit 88-7 by adoption
of Resolution 2479 as submitted or revised.
Presentation: Joel Slavtt, Assistant Planner
Commissioner Wetl asked if the sign was in the perimeters of the City's Sign Code.
Staff responded that there is no specific designation for signs in the P&I area, that
it is all done by use permit.
Commissioner Wetl asked why the old Conditional Use Permit was not amended.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 11, 1988
Page eight
The Director noted that this sign was brought to the Planning Commission as a
provision of the past use permits, that any modification of the use or stgnage must
be brought before the Planning Commission.
The public hearing was opened at 9:22 p.m.
Mr. William Earl, 12962 Keith Place, representing approximately 15 homeowners from
Keith Pl. and Kenneth Pl. attending the meeting, spoke in opposition of the sign. He
recited that the larger sign would attract more people to an already conjested area.
He further complained that there were disruptions to the neighborhood regarding
parking, noise, usage of the complex 24 hours a day - seven days a week, auto repairs
in the parking lot and signage.
There was a general discussion between the Commissioners, staff and Mr. Earl
regarding the circumstances of the use at this location.
Mr. Richard Vining, noted that there were different sign requirements for different
usage. He also asked that a standard review period be set up for all use permits to
ensure that any neighborhood complaints would be addressed.
Dane Cardone, representing Innovative Graphics, Inc., offered to answer any questions
regarding the sign.
Mr. Earl asked how tall the letters were and what they were made of.
Mr. Cardone clarified that the letters "Scientology" were yellow plexiglass and the
"L. Ron Hubbard Plaza" were 6" tall satin finished brass.
The public hearing was closed at 9:45 p.m.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Baker seconded to continue the public hearing on Use
Permit 88-7 to the May 23, 1988 meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
NEW BUSIMESS
8. Design Review 88-14
APPLICANT: THE IRVINE COMPANY
LOCATION: TRACT 12763 OF EAST TUSTIN DEVELOPMENT
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS: THE PROJECT IS COVERED BY A PREVIOUS EIR (85-2) FOR THE EAST
TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN. NO ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED.
REQUEST: APPROVAL OF DESIGN CHANGES FOR PERIMETER BLOCK WALL, TRACT 12763.
Recommendation: It is recommended that the Planning Commission approve Design
Review 88-14 by adoption of Resolution No. 2488.
Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community Development
Jay Pierce, representing the Irvine Company offered to answer any questions the
Commission might have.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 11, 1988
Page nine
Commissioner Ponttous asked what the difference in upkeep of the two walls was.
Mr. Pierce noted that there was not a significant change difference.
Commissioner Baker asked who would ultimately be responsible for the maintenance.
Mr. Pierce stated the Homeowner's Association would be responsible.
Commissioner Le Jeune clarified with Mr. Pierce that the main goal was a design
change.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve Design Review 88-14 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2488. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS
9. Report on City Council Actions taken at April 4, 1988 meeting
Presentation: Christine Shlngleton, Director of Community Development
C(]IHISSZON CONCERNS
Commissioners Baker and Wetl noted concern regarding the parking situation in the
City Hall parking lot.
Commissioner Puckett noted concern regarding a vacant house located at Red Hill
Avenue and Garland.
Commissioner Ponttous noted that she would not be able to attend the April 25, 1988
meeting.
AIX)OURI~qENT
At 10:05 p.m. Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Ponttous seconded to adjourn to the next
regular scheduled meeting on April 25, 1988 at 7:30 p.m. Morion carried 5-0.
Ka th~
Chairman