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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 04-13-87 MINUTES TUSTIN PLANNING COI~ISSION REGULAR MEETING APRIL 13, 1987 ***** CALL TO ORDER: 7:32 p.m., City Council Chambers PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION ROLL CALL: Present: Puckett, Wetl, Baker, Le Jeune, Pontious PUBLIC CONCERNS: (Limited to 3 minutes per person for items not on the agenda) IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON A SUBJECT, PLEASE FILL OUT THE CARDS LOCATED ON THE SPEAKER'S TABLE. ALSO, PLEASE GIVE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. CONSENT CALENDAR: (ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS PRIOR TO THE TIME OF THE VOTING ON THE MOTION UNLESS MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, STAFF OR PUBLIC REQUEST SPECIFIC ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED AND/OR REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR SEPARATE ACTION.) 1. Minutes of March 23, 1987 Planning Commission Meeting Commissioner Wetl moved, Le Jeune seconded to approve the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. USE PERMIT NO. 87-6 Appl I cant: Locatt on: Request: Mr. Gary Gantry on behalf of Exxon Corporaton 14082 Red Hill Avenue Authorization for an off-site beer and wine sales license in conjunction with a gas station and mini market use. Presentation: Laura Cay Pickup, Associate Planner RESOLUTION NO. 2400: A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, DENYING AN APPLICATION OF EXXON CORPORATION REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FOR OFF-SITE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AT 14082 RED HILL AVENUE RECOMMENDED ACTION: It is recommended that the Planning Commission deny Use Permit 87-6 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2400. Planning Commission Minutes April 13, 1987 Page t~o After hearing the staff report, a discussion ensued between the Commission and staff regarding the distance requirements. Chairman Puckett noted that the staff report states the subject property location as Red Hill and Mitchell, in actuality it is located at Red Hill and Nisson. The public hearing section was opened at 7:40 P.M. by Chairman Puckett. Steve Watson, 1852 Roanoke Avenue, Tustln, spoke on behalf of Exxon Co., U.S.A. He stated that Exxon agreed with the concept of alcohol misuse. However, he cited the position of several national organizations which have stated that the outlet in which alcohol is acquired has no bearing on how alcohol is abused. He asked that the Commission consider the sale of beer and wine at this location. Commissioner Le Jeune asked why a beer and wine license was not requested when the original permit was issued. Ronald Baker, Tri-State Engineering, P. O. Box 4214, Fullerton, Ca. 92634, stated that when the original request was made by Exxon beer and wine sales were still under a public opinion study. Commissioner Wetl asked if he was aware of the unofficial guidelines at that time. Mr. Baker responded that he was aware of the guidelines at the time of the application. Jack Miller, 17352 Parker Dr, Tustin, representing Parents Who Care spoke against the approval of beer and wine sales at this location. The public hearing section was closed at 7:50 P.M. A discussion followed between the Commission and staff. Staff clarified the status of the proposed Zoning Code, when it will become effective, whether staff was making new applicants aware of the new code and that overconcentratton was also a major concern. Commissioner Wetl reiterated that this was not an issue of liquor being sold at a gas station. The issue is the distance of this project from other surrounding alcohol outlets, not the fact that the project is a gas station or a convenience market. Commissioner Ponttous agreed. Commissioner Wetl moved, Ponttous seconded to deny Use Permit No. 87-6 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2400. Motion carried 3-1 (Le Jeune) Baker abstained. OLD BUSINESS Update on Progress of Sign Code Revisions Presentation: Laura Pickup, Associate Planner Planntng Commission Mtnutes Apr11 13, 1987 Page three Commissioner Nell asked: 1.) how did staff arrtve at the ramdom sampling; 2.) that staff clartfy who was to be tnvolved tn the jotnt Sign Code Revtston Workshop; and 3.) that the Commission have plenty of time to revtew the results. Staff responded that the City was dtvtded tnt. 5 secttons and 100 addresses were randomly ptcked from each area. The Assessor's Parcel 11stings are used to obtain names and addresses. Christine Shtngleton stated that the jotnt workshop tentatively scheduled tn June wtll 1nv.lye the Planning Commission, City Council and staff she also noted that the schedule is tentative and wtll fluctuate due to stafftng considerations and workloads. The Commission mutually concurred to receive and file the report on Sign Code Revisions. Rancho Altsal Apartments Presentation: Mary Ann Chamberlain, Associate Planner Chairman Puckett asked what precipitated the changes. Kevtn Pohlson, I Park Plaza, Suite 1000, Irvlne, Ca. 92714-5904, representing Irvtne Pacific Company, stated that they felt more comfortable with the new changes including the addition of recessed windows. A discussion ensued between the Commission, Mr. Pohlson and staff regarding the major difference of the changes, amount of maintenance, cost of brick roll cap, tile roofs, and the fire rating of the roof trellts (one hour). The Commission voiced pleasure with the proposed architectural changes. Mary Ann Chamberlain noted that this report was informational only and that no Commission action was needed at this time. NEll BUSZ#ESS Revised Master Sign Program for Tustin Plaza Shopping Center Presentation: Laura Pickup, Associate Planner After presentation of this report, there was a discussion between the Co~etsston, staff and Klm Josephson (of Carver Development). This discussion encompassed the colors of the stgnage, size of the letters and the deviations from the Master Sign Plan. Mr. Josephson also noted that stgnage was the most important issue to a retail tenant of the center. Commissioner Wetl noted that this issue had been before the Commission many times before. She suggested that a logtcal, legally stmple crtterta be established and for the whole center to eliminate the changes and variances tn order to keep thts process stmple. Planning Commission Minutes Apr11 13, 1987 Page four Commissioner Le Jeune noted that these were problems that they would like to resolve, possibly by allowing logos in the windows. Commissioner Wetl questioned the legality of restricting only the smaller store's signage and not the larger chain tenants with established logos. She questioned whether this could be construed as discrimination. Suzanne Atklns, Deputy City Attorney responded that she didn't see a problem. Chris Shtngleton noted that it was common practice in sign regulations in other cities to base permitted sign area by size of frontage of a business. Mr. Josephson noted that the original three color format became a problem when only the turquoise color was available in the type of product previously approved for the signs. He asked that the Commission approve the four colors; white, Emerald green, turquoise and red. Commissioner Wetl moved, Baker seconded to approve the revisions of the Master Sign Plan for the Tusttn Plaza to encorporate turquoise, white, Emerald green and red. Motion carried: 5-0. e REQUEST FROM COUNTY OF ORANGE Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community Development The Commission responded positively to participating in this Committee. Commissioners Well, Pontious and Le Jeune volunteered to serve on this Committee on a rotating basis. STAFF CONCERNS REPORT ON COUNCIL ACTIONS APRIL 6, 1987 Presentation: Christine Shingleton, Director of Community Development Christine Shtngleton reported that the City Council had: 1.) adopted Ordinance No. 982 allowing tow-away for violation of commercial truck parking restrictions; and 2.) directed staff to proceed with necessary work items to initiate a franchise agreement as requested by the San Diego Pipeline Company and as recommended by the Public Works Department/Engineering Division. COIMNISSION CONCERNS Commissioner Baker was pleased to see East Tustln materializing. Commissioner Le Jeune asked staff to look into overgrown lots especially those on East Seventeenth Street. Chairman Puckett welcomed Penni Foley as Acting Secretary. ADJOURI~IENT At 9:05 P.M. Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Well seconded regular meeting. Motion carried 5-0.