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TUSTZN PLANNING CO~ISSIOM
REGULAR I~ETING
APRIL 14, 198~
CALL TO ORDER: 7:30 p.m., City Council Chambers
PLEI)~E OF ALLEGZANCEIINVOCATION
ROLL CALL: Present: Well, McCarthy, Puckett, Baker
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Minutes of March 10, 1986.
Resolution No. 2303, Variance Application No. 86-2 for Miller's Outpost Sign.
Resolution No. 2319, Final Parcel Map 85-287.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Baker seconded to approve the consent calendar with 2
minor corrections in the minutes of the March 10, 1986 meeting. Motion carried 4-0.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. USE PERMIT 86-4
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
John Bartlett Associates on behalf of St. Jeanne de Lestonnac.
16791E. Main Street
Authorization to relocate classroom facilities, and to construct
a new school center consisting of a Gymnasium and Little
Theater.
Presentation: Jeff Davis, Associate Planner
At 7:43 p.m. the public hearing was opened.
Staff noted that the Gymnasium and theater construction was dropped at this time.
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April 14, 1986
Page two
Jo Anna Strada, representing John Bartlett Associates, 250 Colorado Blvd., Arcadia,
Ca., 91006, offered to answer any questions the Commissioner's might have. She
clarified some points regarding the easement and actual building placement. She
questioned parking permits and the square footage figure referred to in the report.
The public hearing was closed at 7:45 p.m.
There was some discussion between the Commissioners and staff regarding Item D. 2,
the square footage number used on the Design Review Summary, and the actual location
of the of the building on the property.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Baker seconded to adopt Resolution 2321 {with minor
changes in the resolution and the Design Review Summary) including the recommendation
that the fees for future public hearing for gym/theater be waived, approving Use
Permit 86-4. Motion caried 4-0.
5. USE PERMIT 86-10
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
MONY-Blrtcher Red Hill
15621, 15641 and 15661 Red Hill Avenue
Authorization for a blanket use permit for the Northpointe Complex
to allow offices.
Presentation:
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Associate Planner
The public hearing was opened at 7:55 p.m.
Sandra Christ, representing MONY-Birtcher, 32 Morning Star, offered to answer any
questions the Commission might have.
The public hearing was closed at 7:56 p.m.
Commissioner McCarthy moved, Puckett seconded a motion to approve Use Permit 86-10 by
the adoption of Resolution No. 2318. Chairman Well asked that the Resolution be
amended to include the MONY-Birtcher letter as Exhibit "A", all agreed. Motion
carried 4-0.
6. USE PERMIT 86-15
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
City of Tusttn
200 South "C" Street
Authorization to construct a Multipurpose Senior Citizen Center.
Presentation:
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Associate Planner
Mr. Ron Page, a consultant hired by the Senior Citizen Steering Committee explained
that the building and parking lot would encompass approximately one-half acre of the
park area. This project would add additional parking that would be of great value to
the park. One ball field that was inadequate will not be replaced. The playground
area will be moved and a new picnic area will be created as part of the separation of
the park and the buldtng.
The public hearing was opened at 8:03 p.m.
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Aprtl 14, 1986
Page three
LYN VAN DYKEN, 235 South "A" Street, Tusttn, asked about the placement of the
playground and plcntc area and the ttme frame of the replacement of the playground.
Mr. Page answered her questions.
Janet Schwartz, 10292 Overhtll, Santa Ana, Ca., 92705, member of the Board of
Directors, of the Tustin Area Senior Center Fund, Inc. and a member of the Senior
Center Steering Committee, spoke in support ~f the Tusttn A~ea Multipurpose Senior
Center Stating that the city needed a focal point for their senior activities. She
asked that the Planning Commission support the center by approving Use Permit 86-15.
Nick Ogden, 1500 E. Warren, Santa Ana, Ca., 92705, manager of the Tustin TLC Program,
explained the TLC Program serving lunch to 100 seniors on weekdays and hopes to
relocate in the new Senior Center. He hopes to accommodate at least 200 more seniors
per day at this new location. He asked that the Planning Commission approve Use
Permit 86-10.
The public hearing was closed at 8:14 p.m.
Commissioner Puckett complimented the Senior Citizen Coordinating Council and the
Senior Citizen Steering Committee for the fine job they have done.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Mc Carth¥ seconded to approve Use Permit 86-15 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2317 authorizing construction of a 17,580 square foot
multipurpose Senior Citizen Center. Commissioner Well proposed that the Commission
recommend to the City Council that fees for the Use Permit, and the building fees be
waived. The Commission agreed unanimously. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Wetl called a 10 minute recess at 8:17.
The Commission reconvened at 8:27.
7. USE PERMIT 86-14
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Healthcare Medical Center of Tustin
14662 Newport Avenue
Authorization to install identification signs for the Healthcare
Medical Center.
Presentation:
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Associate Planner
Public hearing opened at 8:30 p.m.
Larry Stanfteld, Nashville, Tn., representative of Gresham, Smith & Partners, offered
~o answer any of the Commissioner's questions.
The public hearing was closed at 8:31.
Chairman Well questioned the visibility of the address on the building. Plan check
requirements state that the numbers on the building shall be at least 6 inches tall.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Baker seconded to approve Use Permit 86-14 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2316. Motion carried 4-0.
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April 14, 1986
Page four
8. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 86-2d
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
City of Tusttn
Northstde of 6th Street between "B" Street and Pacific.
Change the General Plan designation from Single-Family
Multiple-Family.
to
Presentation:
Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Development
Commissioner Wetl questioned whether Mr. Mark Ainslie has this information.
unable to be reached.
He was
The public hearing was opened at 8:42.
Richard Vtntn~, 400 W. Main Street, Tustin, Ca., 92680, presented a petition with 20
signatures questioning staff comments. He also had a map indicating the addresses of
the affected property. He said this group of petitioners had met with Mr. Atnslie
and stated their viewpoint and opposition to this change in the General Plan
designation.
Barbara Cox, 450 1/2 South "B" Street, Tusttn, Ca., 92680, addressed three areas of
concern: the block is very large; and traffic problems including "B" Street area;
and the 35% figure used by staff. She hoped that the Commission would vote against
this rezoning.
John Sauers, 515 S. Pacific St., Tusttn, Ca., 92680, stated that he did get a public
hearing notice for this hearing. He asked if there had been any studies done in this
area on the traffic and parking problems.
Arthur Charleton, 460 W. Second St., Tustln, Ca., 92680, asked that the Commission
make a decision and not continue this issue any further.
Robert M. Edgell, 345 W. Main St., Tustln, Ca., 92680, representing TRUST, (Tusttn
Residents United to Save Tusttn) stated that this homeowner's group met with Mr.
Ainslie on March 26, 1986. After discussion, they concluded to oppose the change.
They are concerned that the housing density be kept R-1. He disputed the accuracy of
some items in the staff report.
Lyn Van Dyken, 235 South "A" Street, Tustin, Ca., 92680, asked that the area be kept
the way it is.
The public hearing was closed at 9:05.
Commisssioner Puckett moved, Baker seconded a motion to receive and file General Plan
Amendment 86-2d, terminating any further action by the Planning Commission or City
Council. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Well called a recess at 9:07 p.m.
The meeting resumed at 9:14 p.m.
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April 14, 1986
Page five
9. USE PERMIT 86-11
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Carver Development (Tustin Plaza Center)
13681 Newport Avenue
Authorization to obtain an on-site beer
conjunction with a restaurant use.
and wine
license in
Presentation:
Jeff Davis, Associate Planner
The public hearing was opened at 9:15 p.m.
Mr. Ktm Josephson, 1100 Newport Center Drive, Newport Beach, Ca., representing Carver
Development, stated that he had spoken to Parents Who Care and that they had no
objections to this use permit.
Mr. Ed Gage, 405 W. Main St., Tustin, Ca. 92680, suggested that the hours of the
restaurant be limited to prevent this particular restaurant from becoming a beer
bar. He also was concerned with whether or not their Alcoholic Beverage Control
Board permit was good for off-site consumption.
Wendel R. Htnmon, 577 W. Ontario, Corona, Ca., representative for Souplantation,
stated that the hours would be 9:00 a.m to 11:00 p.m., there would be only on-site
consumption of beer and wine. Souplantation has no intent to be a beer bar. When
asked if he would have any objections to limitations on his business hours. His
response was that he would prefer not to have to go through the permit process again
if they decided to change their hours.
Thomas J. Tracy, 2232 Racquet Hill, Santa Aha, Ca., was concerned about off-site
sales of liquor and beer and that the restaurant check very closely for
identification for teens.
The public hearing was closed at 9:35 p.m.
Commissioner Mc Carth¥ moved, Puckett seconded to approve Use Permit 86-11 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2308, with the condition of on-site sales only. Motion
carried 4-0.
10. USE PERMIT 86-12
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Carver Development (Tustin Plaza Center)
13771 Newport Avenue
Authorization to obtain an on-site beer and wine license in
conjunction with a restaurant.
Presentation:
Jeff Davis, Associate Planner
The public hearing was opened at 9:40.
Mr. Klm Josephson, representative for Carver Development, stated that he spoke with
Parents Who Care and that they had no objections to the issuance of an on-site beer
and wine license at this location.
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April 14, 1986
Page six
The public hearing was closed at 9:42 p.m.
Commissioner Puckett asked what the hours of operation would be.
Mark Montgomery, 344 E. Sand Pebble Way, Orange, Ca., representative of Pizza Guild
Investors for Roundtable stated that the hours of operation would be 11:00 a.m. to
11:00 p.m. and on Friday and Saturday until 12:00 p.m. He also offered to answer any
other questions the Commission might have.
Commissioner Baker confirmed that there would be on-site consumption only at this
location.
Commissioner Puckett moved, ~c Carthy seconded to approve Use Permit 86-12 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2309, with the condition of on-site sales only. Motion
carried 4-0.
11. VARIANCE 86-3
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Carver Development (Tusttn Plaza Center)
Tusttn Plaza Retail site bounded by Main Street, Newport Avenue and
Sixth Street
Authorization to vary from various sections of the Sign Code to
allow: 6 center identification signs; two free-standing tenant
signs; and 4 wall signs in excess of maximum area permitted.
Presentation:
Jeff Davis, Associate Planner
The public hearing was opened at 9:55.
Mr. Klm Josephson, representative of Carver Development spoke in opposition of the
staff report. He pointed out that Tustin Plaza is attracting large chain tenants,
that have a standardized sign criteria that they feel is critical to their success.
He noted that the center needed these larger tenants in order to attract the smaller
tenants to fill up the rest of the center. He feels that these signs are needed
because the visibility if some of these stores will be limited.
Gordon Simioni, 7449 Scout Ave., Bell Gardens, Ca. 90201, representing the
Wherehouse Records, stated they are expanding their business and need the signage
space to get all of their services on the sign.
Mark Montgomery, representative of Round Table Pizza, stated that the tenant
identification signs are critical to the company for name awareness. They are
looking for good visibility due to their location in the center, behind a free
standing building.
Richard Vtntng, noted that all businesses complain about stgnage. He asked if it
would be fair to previous businesses that have complied with the sign ordinance if
these signs were approved. He also questioned the treatment of Main Street. Would
there be a wall or a berm, and where would the trash be kept.
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April 14, 1986
Page seven
Ktm Josephson, Carver Development, explained where the trash containers would be
stored and that the wall along Main Street is designed to look like the front of a
building.
The public hearing was closed at 10:20 p.m.
There was a discussion between the Commissioners, Mr. Josephson, Mr. Vtntng, Mr.
Montgomery and staff regarding monument signs, tenant signs and free-standing signs.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Mc Carth¥ seconded to approve Variance 86-3 authorizing
signs as folklows: 1.) Six (6) free-standing center identification signs; and 2.)
Two (2) free-standing double faced multi-tenant signs with 3 tenants each; and 3.)
approve staff recommendations on wall signs for units 23 through 26.
Chairman Wetl asked about the tenants that were not on these signs. Mr. Josephson
answered that the major chain is usually the draw to the center. She also asked that
the separate addresses be put on the buildings and on the monument sign.
Motion carried 3-1. Ayes: Baker, Puckett, Mc Carthy; Nays: Well.
Chairman Well noted that her main concern was sign clutter.
12. USE PERMIT 86-13
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Yehia Elhak on behalf of Fast Stop
17311 Mc Fadden Avenue
To authorize an off-site beer and wine sales license for a proposed
convenience market.
Presentation:
Laura Pickup, Assistant Planner
Chairman Wetl entered a letter into the record from Ethel Reynolds of Parents Who
Care sta(ing that they had no objections to the application for liquor sales at this
location.
The public hearing opened at 10:46 p.m.
The public hearing was closed at 10:47 p.m.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Baker seconded to approve Use Permit 86-13 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 2320. Motion carried 4-0.
ADMINISTRATIVE lqAI'rERS
Old Business
13. Extend Use Permits 76-25 and 77-23.
Presentation: Laura Pickup, Assistant Planner
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April 14, 1986
Page eight
There was some discussion as to the past activity. It was asked that the Commission
receive and file this item as the Use Permit extension time had expired.
Commissioner Mc Carthy moved, Puckett seconded to receive and file the application to
extend Use permits 76-25 and 77-23. Motion carried 4-0.
14. Future Facility Sign for Tusttn Auto Center.
Presentation: Laura Pickup, Assistant Planner
There was some discussion between the Commission and staff regarding the size and
lighting of the sign in comparison to the permanent sign to be used.
Commissioner Puckett moved, Mc Carth¥ seconded to receive and file this report on the
Future facility sign for Tustin Auto Center. Motion carried 4-0.
15. Update on flood control improvement and rough 9radin~ in the Phase
I residential area.
Presentation:
Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Developement
Commissioner Mc Carth¥ asked about the swail.
Jay Pierce, representing the Irvine Company, commented that the swail was filled in
last week.
Commissioner Mc Carth¥ moved, Puckett seconded to receive and file this report on the
flood control improvement and the rough grading in the Phase I residential area.
Motion carried 4-0.
Neff Business
None.
STAFF CONCERNS
16. Report on Council Actions, March 17, 1986 and April 7, 1986.
Presentation: Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Development
The East Tusttn Resolutions were adopted at the March 17, 1986 meeting. On April 7,
1986 the General Plan Amendment concerning Browning Avenue was left as single
family. Therefore a letter to Mr. Huber will not be sent.
General Plan Amendment 86-2c for Healthcare Medical Center was approved and they have
applied for a zone change for the Sycamore property.
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April 14, 1986
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C(XWlIISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Wetl read two letters into the record thanking the Commission for
voting no to the 7-11 issue. They were from George and Louise Jeffries and Parents
Who Care. She also thanked Suzanne Atkins for providing them with the Local Agency
Handbook.
ADdOURI~ENT
Commissioner Puckett moved, Baker seconded to adjourn the meeting at 11:15 p.m.
Motion carried 4-0.
Chairman