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TUSTIN PLANNING COI~ISSION
REGULAR IMEETI NG
,.IANUARY 13, 1986
CALL TO ORDER:
7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Well, Puckett, Baker, McCarthy, White
Also present: Larry Webb, Warren Roche, Meltssa Holmes, Tom
Smith, Stan Hoffman, Bob Kallenbaugh, Terry Austin, Don Lamm, Ed
Knight, Laura Pickup, Donna Orr, The Irvine Company team and
approximately 230 citizens.
1. Minutes from Planning Commission meeting December 9, 1985.
2. Minutes from Planning Commission meeting December 23, 1985.
McCarthy moved, White seconded to approve the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLZC HEARINGS
3. AMENDMENT #1 TO USE PERMIT 80-17
Applicant: Bill Taylor on behalf of Taylor's Restaurant
Location: 1542 E1Camino Real
Request: To expand an existing game room by 320 square feet.
Presentation: Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Development
Don Lamm, at the applicant's request, recommended the Commission table this item for
a period not more than 6 months.
White moved, McCarthy seconded to table this item for a period of six months. Motion
carried 5-0.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
PRESENTATIONS:
None.
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Minutes
January 13, 1985
page two
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. AMENDMENT #1 TO USE PERMIT 84-7
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Karen Cripps
15411 Red Hill Avenue, Unit D
Approval of a 1750 square foot expansion and extension of
previously allowed hours of operation for the California
Sunshine Gymnastics School
Presentation:
Laura Pickup, Assistant Planner
Commissioner White questioned the parking requirement. Laura Pickup responded there
are six spaces for loading and unloading and four spaces as permanent parking for the
instructors.
Puckett moved, Baker seconded to approve Amendment #1 to Use Permit 84-7 by the
adoption of Resolution 2292. Motion carried 5-0.
5. EAST TUSTIN PLANNED COMMUNITY
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DRAFT EIR 85-2
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 86-1a, b, c.
ZONE CHANGE 86-1
SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 8/EAST TUSTIN
Applicant:
Location:
An application filed jointly by the city of Tustin and Montca
Florian on behalf of The Irvine Company.
An area bounded by the Santa Ana Freeway (I-5) to the south,
existing residential development in the city of Tustin and the
unincorporated communities of Lemon Heights and Cowan Heights to
the west, unincorporated land to the north, and unincorporated
area within the sphere of influence line (Myford Road) for the
city of Irvine to the east.
Request:
Presentation:
To amend the General Plan, Zoning and enact a specific plan to
permit the development of 7,950 dwelling units, plus
neighborhood commercial, general commercial, mixed use {which
includes commercial, office, research & development) and related
public facilities on 1,740 acres.
Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Development
Ed Knight, Senior Planner, gave a brief overview of the plan and explained the
process for approval.
Larry Webb, Project Manager, presented the concept of the plan through a slide
presentation and introduced the various consultants involved.
Warren Roche, Urban Plan and Mellssa Holmes, Edaw, reviewed the more specific land
use proposals, some of the components of the plan and how the regulations and
policies within the plan will apply to the implementation process when the
development process occurs after the plan is adopted.
Minutes
January 13, 1986
page three
Roche further explained that there are 12 sectors in the plan, each with a maximum
allowable number of units. If a sector is developed with less than the number, the
number can be included in another area. An area can be developed with more than the
allowed number with the approval of the Director of Community Development. At no
time can the overall 7950 amount be exceeded.
Tom Smith, MBA, summarized the process involved in preparation of the EIR. The key
issues were: 1) traffic and circulation; 2) land use; 3) public service and
utilities (schools and parks); 4) drainage; 5) topography.
Stan Hoffman, explained the plan is fiscally balanced and highlighted the process.
Bob Kallenbau~h, RBF, explained the wastewater system; disposal system; water
distribution system; analyzed electrical, telephone and gas system; and commented on
the flood control aspects of the plan (Peters Canyon Wash and E1Modena Channel).
Terry Austin, Austin Foust Associates, reviewed issues that had been raised in the
past. He explained the East Tustln circulation system is designed so as not to rely
on regional facilities; it is self sufficient. On the other hand, it does have the
ability to tie into the other systems when the need should occur. The system is
adequate not only for East Tustin but for other traffic that may occur in the
system.
Monlca Florian, The Irvine Company, introduced Company team members. She presented
an overview of the role the Company has played in the formulation of the plan.
Chairman Wetl called for a 10 minute recess at 9:10 p.m. The hearing recovened at
9:30 p.m. and Chairman Well opened the hearing for public testimony. The following
people spoke:
Charles Rob¥, Racquethlll Homeowners, requested answers in writing to the issues he
raised and presented the Commission with a typed report and petition containing 234
signatures of county residents requesting deletion of Racquet Hill as a through
commuter/collector road to the East Tustin project. (The typed report is on file in
the Tustin Community Development Department.)
Mtchele Brooks, Racquethlll Homeowners, requested answers in writing to the issues
she raised and thoroughly reviewed the typed report presented by Charles Roby
addressing negative impacts on Racquet Hill, cited law precluding the specific plan
from being adopted for the following reasons: 1) Racquet Hill is not a through
street on the O.C. Master Plan of Arterial Highways; 2) The data upon which
circulation plans were made assumes routes for the Eastern Transportation Corridor
and the Bottleneck which have not been adopted; 3) The data base for traffic planning
selectively includes and deletes the land use data for the unincorporated area of
Irvtne directly east of East Tustin; 4) There is no provision for the increase in
width of Racquet Hill/Skyline to meet standards for a "commuter/collector" road.
Howard Hay, Racquethtll Homeowners, requested deletion of Racquet Hill as a connector
for the following reasons: 1) increase traffic on Skyline; 2) dangerous
intersection; 3) Racquet Hill would be subject to more traffic; 4) children use the
streets and intersections as walkways and bikeways; 5) Irvine Company concept of
culdesac community would be lost; 6) opportunity for two culdesac communities.
Minutes
January 13, 1986
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Tom Tracey, Racquet Hill Homeowners, requested answers in writing and expressed
concern in the decline of real estate values in homes adjacent to the project. He
expressed further concern with the plan's insufficient provision for church sites.
He pointed out that the city of Irvine makes it virtually impossible for churches to
buy land and doesn't want the same thing to happen in Tustin.
John Murphy, city of Irvine, went on record stating their city is currently reviewing
the draft EIR and it has been agendized for their January 28th City Council meeting.
They will send their formal comments on the draft EIR.
Alicia Francis, 1792 San Juan, expressed support for the traffic plan and a westerly
exit from East Tustin; tired of traffic congestion caused by county residents on
Tusttn streets; suggested an overpass on Browning to alleviate traffic on Red Hill.
She also wanted provisions made for churches in East Tustin.
Carol Schrider, Foothill Communities Association, presented a typed statement (on
file in the Tustin Community Development Department) summarized as follows: 1)
Inadequate compliance with CEQA guidelines to furnish the public and officials with
complete documentation; 2) Inaccurate and inconsistent technical data in the EIR; 3)
Insufficient specific detail to be a specific plan, therefore, inappropriate
designation as a Program EIR with no subsequent public review; 4) Unsubstantiated
maximum densities with excessive latitude to the land developer. Unlike the existing
General Plan there is no maximum density for gross project acres as an absolute
ceiling; 5) Incomplete input of adequate arterial impact analysis and mitigation; 6)
Inadequate or omission of mitigation measures; 7) Absence of an adequate phasing
program to assure roads, schools, flood control, etc. progress in pace with
development construction; 8) Lack of compliance with the existing Orange County
Master Plan of Arterial Highways. She further requested a 90 day extension for the
public review process.
Janlne Harmon, Foothill Communities Association, addressed the East Tusttn EIR
citing, in the Association's opinion, inconsistencies, omissions and other errors.
(A copy of the typed material is on file in the Tustin Community Development
Department). She highlighted the need for Commission review of each sector site
plan; excessive latitude for change to the developer; and requested an extension of
time for the public review process.
Stephen Johnson, 420 W. Main, concentrated his comments on public facilities; items
that would cost the taxpayers money. He felt there is nothing in the report that
commits the Irvine Company to a time frame or money to accomplish the public
facilities, i.e., new schools, new roads, or new and improved flood control. He
expressed fear that the city will have to sell bonds to build the roads and public
facilities all of which will rest with the taxpayers. He suggested the plan contain
a time schedule and commitment for payment. His further concern was with the density
of the development, namely, the 15% latitude which can be granted by the Director of
Community Development without further public input. He urged the Commission not
listen to the "salesman's" assurances and read the fine print.
Cliff Polston, Tustin Boy's and Girl's Club, praised The Irvine Company for the many
community contributions they have made especially the financial assistance to the
Boy's and Girl's Club; therefore, he supports the project and the Company.
Joe Langley, Htllsboro Lane, supported the plan and asked the Commission to consider
carefully the points raised by public input. His main concern has been the
community's sports needs and he is satisfied the plan will fullfil those needs.
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January 13, 1986
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Carole Katz, Summit Ridge Homeowners, requested the public input time be extended and
expressed concern with increased traffic on Skyline.
Larry Keith, 2292 Pavilion Dr., addressed the proposed density compatibility. He
referred to Sector 8 with 8,000 sq. ft. lots abutting homes with 23,000 sq. ft. lots
and wondered where the compatibility exists.
Don Lamm stated that the questions requesting written answers will be addressed in
the EIR and will hopefully be returned on January 27th; copies can be obtained from
city staff. He stated staff would make more loan copies of the specific plan and EIR
available for public review.
Seeing no one further wishing to speak, Chair Well asked for a motion. McCarthy
moved, Baker seconded to continue the public hearing to the next regularly scheduled
meeting on January 27, 1986.
Chair Well called a recess at 10:45 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 10:55 p.m.
Commission discussion/comments ensued as follows:
White: 1) impressed with the quality of the presentations tonight; 2) requested staff
outline the development (sector) package; 3) requested staff take a position on the
benefits and detriments to the plan of dropping the road links; 4) Wants an
explanation at the next hearing how the master plan projects are part of the project
and not part of the city tax burden and present how the process, general plan through
implementation, attaches the facilities to the project; 5) wants to know how the
densities of the plan match the densities of adjacent development; 6) suggested
rethinking of the density transfer concept, i.e., who has that authority, when it
occurs and what transfer information is available at the time it is done. There
should be a very simple mechanism; 7) Wants to establish fiscal requirements for
processing the project and also for the arterial function so the project remains
profitable for the city; 8) Wants prohibition of outside paging and loudspeaker
systems.
McCarthy will submit his in wri ting.
Puckett expressed concern with the lack of church sites and wants to know what can be
done to designate the sites.
Baker will submit in writing.
Well will submit in writing.
White moved, Puckett seconded to continue the public hearing to the next regularly
scheduled Planning Commission meeting on January 27, 1986. Motion carried 5-0.
AIXIINISll~ATIVE I~TTERS
Old Business
None.
New Bustness
None.
Minutes
January 13, 1986
page si x
STAFF CONCERNS
6. Oral Report on Council actions of January 6, 1986..
Presentation: Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Development
COI~ISSION CONCERNS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Puckett moved, McCarthy seconded to adjourn at 11:10 p.m. to the next regularly
scheduled Planning Commission meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
CHAIRMAN