HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 11-19-79TUSTIN PLANNING AGENCY
Minutes of Regular Meeting
November 19, 1979
The Planning Agency held a regular meeting Monday, November 19, 1979, in
the Council Chambers of the Tusfin City Hall, 300 Centennial Way, Tusfin,
California.
The meeting was called to order by Vice-chairman Saltarelli, in the absence
of Chairman Schuster, af 3 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance fo the Flag was led by Mrs. Kennedy and the invo-
cation was given by Mr. Saltarelli.
Present:
Vice-chairman Saltarelli, Agency Members: Sharp, Kennedy,
and Welsh
Absent:
Chairman Schuster
Also Present:
Mike Brotemarkle, Community Development Director
Dan Blankenship, City Administrator
Mary Wynn, Recording Secretary
Other staff members= 2
General public: 11
MINUTES
The minutes of the regular and continued meetings held November 5, 1979
were approved as written, with the waiving of reading same.
pUBLIC HEARINGS
UsC Permit 79-29 (continued)
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Wuv's Restaurant
17502 17th Street
To locate a restaurant with an accessory drive-through facility
in Enderle Center, on the southeast corner of Enderle Way
and 17th Street.
Vice-chairman Salfarelli asked if there were any questions from the Agency
prior to continuing the public hearing.
Previous concern for ingress/egress and the position of the MerchantLs
Association was discussed. The applicant had submitted for additional
Agency review a letter which, in summary, outlined the historical circum-
stances of the Center and requests this minor deviation, compatible with the
plan, providing less traffic and congestion than a proposal for a drive-
through bank. The letter further pointed out that the site is not part of
the main retail portion of the Center and should not have an impact on the
merchantst concerns.
Mrs. Kennedy requested information regarding the overflow parking that could
occur if this request is approved and she didn't see this concern in the
staff's report.
Mr. Brotemarkle said the staff felt the applicant's letter addressed that
issue; fhere wouldbe parking fo Code, and perhaps af some peak time there
could be overflow parking fhaf would make utilizalion of the first available
space one could find, but specifically where overflow parking would go could
not be ascertained.
Vice-chairman Salfarelli asked if there was anyone further from the audience
who wished to speak in favor or opposition fo Use Permit 79-29 and hearing
no response he declared fha public hearing closed and asked the pleasure of
fha Agency.
Planning Agency
Minutes - November 19, 1979
page 2.
Mrs. Kennedy asked if any member of the Merchant's Association had con-
facted the staff.
Mr. Brotemarkle said no one from the Association had contacted Community De-
velopment, however, representatives of Enderle Center had indicated fhaf most
of tho poopl.e af the initial hearing had addressed the Agency as individuals
rather than on behalf of the entire Merchant's Association, The Association,
he said, has taken no position on this matter and it was his understanding
that a number of the members have withdrawn their complaints concerning the
proposal.
Mr. Welsh said he had been contacted by some merchants of Enderle Center
who indicated they no longer have reservations about ~his request.
Mrs. Kennedy said she had researched back to the time the Agency originally
approved Enderle Center and didn't feel fhaf this reauest would have been
approved under the original plan. She asked if staff was going to monitor the
parking reauirement and straighten out tho seating discrepancy which seemed
fo have been a concern.
Mr. Brotemarkle said yes; that would bo brought fo a satisfactory solution
before permits could be issued.
MOTION by Saltarelli, SECONDED by Sharp, to approve Use Permit 79-29 by the
adoption of Resolution No. Z850 and that staff forward copies of the final
development plans to the Agency when they are submitted.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Welsh, Sharp, and Salfarelli
Kennedy
Schuster
~onq Change 7~-~
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Raymond J. Larson on behalf of Burnett-Ehline Company
Southeast corner of Irvine Boulevard and Holt Avenue
A zone change from Retail Commercial District (C-Z) fo the
Planning Corrrnunify Commercial District (PC-Commercial).
Mr. Brotemarkle pointed out the sub;ecl property. He said there are certain
uses permitted as a matter of right, to be developed under the C-Z classifi-
cation; however, the applicant intends to go into a planned development type
possibly up to 4-story structures. The applicant is reauesting this property
have a PC-Commercial zoning in order that they can pursue a master site plan
and come back to the Agency for consideration under a use permit application.
If has been pointed out fo the applicant that although the PC-Commercial zoning
is more flexible, if would require future consideration by the Agency.
Mr. Welsh asked if the applicant's main purpose for a zone change is fo increase
the height of structures.
Mr. Brotemarkle said yes, fo be considered as a part of a later use permit
review.
Mr. Welsh asked if the applicant had received from staff the impression that
staff had no serious objections contrary fo previous policies of the Planning
Agency and Council, and the Community.
Mr. Brofemarkle said the applicant is not requesting any height beyond that
similar fo Mervyn's Department store, and not fo exceed 4 stories; at this
point we really don~f have a project to look at. The applicant's request,
af this time, is to amend the zoning so he could start the design process fo
bring a plan fo the Agency for their review.
Mr. Salfarelli asked if there was more control under a PC zone than under a
straight Commercial zone.
Planning Agency
Minutes - November 19, 1979
page 3.
Mr. Brofemarkle said that was correct. Any use under a PC zone has to be
reviewed by the use permit procedure.
Mr. Welsh asked if the applicant was aware fhaf an approval of a zone change
was not automatically an approval for a particular height.
Mr. Brotemarkle said yes, the applicant realizes that.
Vice-chairman Salfarelli declared the public hearing open and asked if there
was anyone fo speak in favor or opposition to Zone Change 79-5. There being
no response the Vice-chairman declared the public hearing closed and asked the
pleasure of the Agency.
Mr. Sharp said he didn't want anything in the Agency's action fhaf would indi-
cate any kind of consideration or approval of any height limits at all. He
didn't want the developer to think this action permitted planning anything
higher than 35'
MOTION by Welsh, SECONDED by Sharp, to approve Zone Change 79-3 and recommend
approval fo the City Council by the adoption of Resolution No. 1854.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Sharp, Kennedy, Welsh, and Saltarelli
None
Schuster
V~ ?~rmif 79-32
Appl i cant:
Locat i on:
Request:
Atlantic Richfield Company
14231 Red Hill Avenue af Mitchell Street
To modify the existing gasoline service station info a mini-market,
selling items normally sold in a convenience market and self-serve
gasoline station.
Ntr. Brotemarkle said staff had nothing to add fo what was already contained in
the staff report.
Mr. Saltarelli asked if they were planning to sell alcoholic beverages.
Mr. Brotemarkle said it was assumed they would be requesting an ABC license
for fha off-sale use similar fo a convenience market.
/Vr. Welsh asked if the sign program met our ordinances.
Mr. Brotemarkle said that was correct.
Vice-chairman Saltarelli declared the public hearing open and asked if ~here
was anyone to speak in favor or opposition fo Use Permit 79-32.
Mr. Sam Glick, attorney representing Atlantic Richfield, stated this type of
project is being repeated throughout the southern California area. If is an
opportunity fo take a site that needs repair and restoration, and justify
those expenditures. The landscaping is increased, signing is brought into
conformity with current zoning, and the pole sign would be reduced in size.
The concept is still a service station, selling gasoline. This request would
simply be utilizing wasted space inside the building for sales as a convenience
fo fha customer and would not be competing with super markets. The sale of
alcoholic beverages is up fo the dealer under ABC license regulations.
Mrs. Kennedy asked if a project of this type was profitable.
Mr. Glick said yes; the original idea was for the dealer to make a profit
from selling the convenience foods, enabling him to lower the price of gasoline,
thus selling more. What has happened, however, is fhaf fha mini-mart business
has become so profitable that fha dealer is now making more money selling the
convenience items.
Planning Agency
Minutes - November 19, 1979
page 4.
There being no one else to speak, Vice-chairman Saltarelli declared the
public hearing closed and asked tho pleasure of the Agency.
Mr. Welsh asked if the back-up of cars had been addressed.
Mr. Brotemarkle said the existing facilities of this nature, in the city,
have been no problem. The transactions are really of a very short nature;
they do not do ma]or grocery shopping.
Mr. Welsh asked if a similar request on Newport Boulevard had not been
denied.
Mr. Sharp said he recalled one such request and the Agency was concerned with
school children passing through and possibly causing problems.
MOTION by Kennedy, SECONDED by Salfarelli, to approve Use Permit 79-32 by
the adoption of Resolufion No. 1857.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Sharp, Kennedy, Welsh, and Salfarelli
None
Schuster
Usq Permit 79-31
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Timothy J. Scoff
15451-A Red Hill Avenue
Authorization to operate an indoor boarding and grooming facility
for dogs and cats, in the Red Hill Business Park.
Mr. Brotemarkle said staff would like to point out fhaf tho infernal operation
and functioning of this facility would bo administered by Orange County Animal
Control under confract fo the City and they have specific requirements which
apply to this uso. If lhe use should prove fo be a problem with regard fo
sound transmission, the applicant would have fo install acoustical materials
fo properly attenuate the sound.
Mrs. Kennedy said af times sounds carry great distances and she could not ap-
prove this request unless the building would have sufficient sound attenuation.
Mr. Welsh said the idea is new and existing, bur if down [he path we should
suddenly discover an odor or noise problem, are we prefected?
Mr. Brofemarkle said sanitary conditions would be regulated by the Orange
County Animal Control and staff has incorporated a condition of approval to
provide for a method fo got noise attenuation if needed. Staff had contacted
other cities with these types of kennels and their review showed thai' the indoor
kennel facility was a better operation as opposed fo outdoor operations from a
noise and neighborhood impact standpoint.
Vice-chairman Saltarelli declared the public hearing open and asked if there
was anyone who wished fo speak in favor or opposition to Uso Permit 79-51.
Mr. Tim Scott said he was an animal health technician and had worked in animal
boarding and grooming facilities tot about seven years. As far as noise was
concerned, there are ways of alleviating i~ with music and TV sets, which
helps to keep the animals calm and quiet. He said should if become necessary,
he would willingly insulate the premises.
Mr. Salfarelli asked if his lease had any restrictions as to noise.
Mr. Scoff said yes, the lease agreement states that should noise become a
problem he had fo sound-proof the walls; fhaf was the reason they leased him
tho end unit.
Planning Agency
Minutes - November 19, 1979
page 5.
The Vice-chairman asked if there was anyone else who wished to spoak and
hearing no response he declared the public hearing closed and asked the
pleasure of the Agency.
Mr. Sharp asked if property owners within 500~ of the subject property had
been notified of this request.
Mr. Brotemarkle said only the property owners had been notified; not each
tenant of the complex.
Mr. Sharp said on Item~.D. of Resolution 1855, we should change it to read:
"The operator of the kennel shall provide noise attenuation features within
the facility fo ensure that neighboring uses are not disturbed by animal
noises."
With no objection from the Agency, the Vice-chairman ordered fhaf_~J~.D, of
Resolution 1855 be so amended.
Mrs. Kennedy asked if there could be a time limit of six months placed on the
Use Permit.
MOTION by Sharp, SECONDED by Welsh, to approve Use Permit 79-31 by adoption
of Resolution No. 1855, as amended, for a period of six (6) months.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Sharp, Kennedy, Welsh, and Salfarelli
None
Schuster
Use Permit 79-33
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Mobil Oil Company
171 East First Street af Prospect
To construct two round 22' diameter canopies over two islands;
fo remove gas dispensers on ~he western portion of the property;
and to rebuild existing islands.
Mr. Brotemarkle said in the staff's recommended conditions one condition con-
cerned the removal of a non-conforming advertising structure at this particular
location. He said if has been normal procedure, when approving any use permit
or variance request that involved a property with such a structure, that the
property be brought into conformance with the sign code by the removal of such
outdoor advertising structures.
Mr. Sharp asked if there would be signing on the facia of these round cover-
ings.
Mr. Brotemarkle said no.
Vice-chairman Salfarelli declared the public hearing open and asked if anyone
wished fo speak in favor or opposition to Use Permit 79-33.
Mr. Don Robbins, real estate representative for Mobil Oil Company, said he
had read the resolution and would like fo make a few ca'rrnenfs. The installation
of two more Marbelite street lights, according fo the Edison Company, was ob-
jectionable because the City Engineer indicated that there was enough lighting
there now. With reference to the outdoor advertising sign, the billboard
company is now in a class suit and awaiting a California Supreme Court ruling.
Some time in February, 1980 the ruling will come and Mobil Oil would li'ke fo
have fhaf heard before removal of the sign.
Mr. Saltarelli asked if the billboard in question is on property owned by
Mobil Oil.
Mr. Robbins said yes, and there is a long-term lease with a billboard company.
Planning Agency
Minutes - November 19, 1979
page 6.
Mr. Salfarelli asked if the subject billboard had reached the amortization
period as set forth in our Sign Ordinance.
Mr. Brotemarkle said yes, ib has.
Mr. Saltarelli then asked i¢ if was legal for Mobil Oil Company fo terminate
the lease with the billboard company because of a uso permit condition.
Mr. Rourke, City Attorney, said he didn't know what arrangements Mobil Oil
had with the billboard company; that is something tho applicant would have
to work out. The City could, in considering the request, consider whether
they want to approve with the billboard [here; with the billboard not there;
or fo deny the request.
Mr. Saltarelli asked tho City Engineer if the current lighting was adequate.
Mr. Ledendecker responded that this condition was permissive in that lights
"may" be required and that the adequacy would have fo be reviewed in order fo
make a final determination.
Mr. Brofemarkle said the condition concerning lighting was phrased so that if
the City Engineer determines that such are not required, they will not be re-
quired.
MOTION by Welsh, SECONDED by Kennedy, to close the public hearing and approve
Use Permit 79-33 by the adoption of Resolution No. 1856.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Sharp, Kennedy, Welsh, and Saltarelli
None
Schuster
Pre-Zone 7~-2 (Annexation No. 97)
Location:
North side of Main Street, between Santa Aha and Costa ~!~sa Free-
ways.
Mr. Salfarelli stated that the Local Agency Formation Corrrnission (LAFCO) did
approve this annexation, and it's now ready for processing within the city.
He then opened the public hearing and asked if there was anyone fo speak in
favor or opposition to Pre-zone 79-2. Hearing no response ho asked the
pleasure of the Agency.
MOTION by Welsh, SECONDED by Kennedy, to close the public hearing and approve
Pre-zone 79-2 and recommend approval fo [he City Council by the adoption of
Resolution No. 1852.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Sharp, Kennedy, Welsh, and Salfarelli
None
Schuster
PUBLIC CONCERNS
None
OLD BUSINESS
N~W BUSINESS
Rq~olutiop No. 1853
Mr. Salfarelli said this was the resolution covering Variance 79-6 (Schick
Moving and Storage), previously approved by the Agency. He asked if the Agency
had any questions.
Mrs. Kennedy said she was concerned that item ~.C.1 of Resolution 1853 would
cause drivers drivin9 from south to north to turn off on Red Hill Avenue and
may cause the very problem we are tryin9 fo avoid.
Planning Agency
Minutes - November 19, 1979
page 7.
MOTION by Saltarelli, SECONDED by Sharp, to approve Resolution No. 1853.
A discussion was held regarding fhe previous vote,the absence of one approval
vote and the results of a tie vote. Mr. Welsh wanted the record fo show that
even though he voted against the original request, if would be unfair fo
penalize the applicant with additional delay due fo a fie vote. Therefore,
he would vote in favor of the resolution.
AYES: Sharp, Welsh, and Salfarelli
NOES: Kennedy
ABSENT: Schuster
CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF CONCERNS
None
A~NCy GON~RNS
None
AD ~OURN~AI~NT
There being no fuFtheF business to come befoFe the Planning Agency the
Vice-chairman declaFed the meeting adjouFned at 3:55 p.m. to meet again fOF
a regular meeting to be held December 3, 1979 at 3 p.m.
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Donald Saltarelli
Vi ce-cha i r[nan
M.I. Mehl
Recording Secretary