HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 06-13-77MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 13, 1977
A regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was
held on the 13th day of June, 1977, at 7:30 p.m., in the City
Council Chambers, Centennial Way at Main Street, Tustin, Calif-
ornia.
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Glenn.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Commissioner Robbins.
INVOCATION was given by Commissioner McHarris.
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners: Glenn, McHarris, Hill, Robbins.
Absent: Commissioners: Lathrop.
Others present: R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City Admininstrator,
Community Development Director
Daniel Van Dorpe, Assistant Director of Building
and Planning
Alan Burns, Deputy City Attorney
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Planning Commission
Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Hill, seconded by Robbins, to approve the minutes of
May 23, 1977 as submitted. Carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Initial
1. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT 77-2
For the purpose of evaluating the impact of a proposed
planned commercial development located at McFadden Ave-
nue, Tustin Village Way and the Newport Freeway on-off
ramp.
After the presentation of the staff report by Dr. Fleaqle, the
public portion of the hearing was opened at 7:35 p.m.
Jerry Buck, Hon Development Company, requested that since an
additional dedication is necessary, they would like to build the
skate palace building within one foot of the property line up to
the freeway with no windows or openings, just one solid block
wall.
The public hearing was closed at 7:38 p.m.
Commissioner Hill stated that the traffic was a great concern
especially along Tustin Village Way and McFadden.
After some discussion among the Commissioners pertaining to
internal and external circulation and traffic patterns it was moved
by McHarris, seconded by Robbins to recommend certification of
EIR 77-2 by the adoption of Resolution No. 1630. Carried 4-0.
2. USE PERMIT 77-8
To permit the construction and operation of a Wendy's
eat in and drive-thru restaurant, located at the
south easterly corner of Tustin Village Way and the
Newport Freeway on-ramp.
After the presentation of the staff report by Dr. Flea~le, the
public hearing was opened at 7:48 p.m.
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Ken Bates, 1310 N. McClain Drive, Santa Ana, presented a brief
history of the Wendy's operation and spoke in favor of the use
permit.
Jerry Buck, Hon Development, addressed some of the problems and
informed the Commission that they have prepared a new site plan
for Wendy's along with the rest of the center and would be pleased
to work out the problems with staff.
The public hearing was closed at 8:05 p.m.
Moved by Robbins, seconded by McHarris to approve Use Permit 77-8
by adoption of Resolution No. 1631. Carried 4-0.
3. USE PERMIT 77-9
To permit the construction and operation of an eat in
and drive-thru restaurant known as Taco de Carlos, lo-
cated southerly of Wendy's.
After the presentation of the staff report by Dr. Fleagle, the
public hearing was opened at 8:10 p.m. Seeing and hearing no one
the hearing was closed at 8:11 p.m.
After some discussion among the Commissioners pertaining to stacking
of cars for this drive-thru restaurant it was moved by Hill, sec-
onded by Robbins to approve Use Permit 77-9 by the adoption of
Resolution No. 1631 with 2.b. to be amended as follows:
2/b.
Modification of the plot plan to meet City of
Tustin parking lot standards, with double stack-
ing lanes authorized for drive-thru facilities.
Carried 4-0.
4. USE PERMIT 77-10
To permit the construction and operation of a roller-
skating rink known as Tustin Skate Palace to be located
off McFadden, westerly of Newport Freeway.
Dr. Flea~le reported that one free standing sign would be allowed
for the total complex for all tenants for this center. Dr. Fleagle
informed the Commission that the Hon Development Company had vol-
unteered both inside and exterior security for the Skate Palace
in order to assure that his new center would not be a liability
to both the City and the developer.
The public hearing was opened at 8:20 p.m.
Jerry Buck, Hon Development Company, informed the Commission that
they had conducted an extensive research program in Orange County
which showed that four (4) stalls per thousand square feet gross
floor area was adequate parking for skating rinks. Jerry Buck
requested that staff be given the flexibility of relating parking
spaces to the circulation and parking requirements on this site.
The public hearing was closed at 8:38 p.m.
After some discussion pertaining to the site plan, it was moved
by McHarris, seconded by Hill to approve Use Permit 77-10 by the
adoption of Resolution No. 1633 with the following changes:
2/b.
Parking spaces may be reduced to resolve circu-
lation patterns without decreasing building
area.
2/i. Change in use will require a new Use Permit.
Carried 4-0.
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5. AMENDMENT TO USE PERMIT 74-9
To amend the permit to authorize outdoor eating
facilities for restaurants located in the Enderle
Center at 17th and Yorba.
After presentation of the staff report by Dr. Fleagle, the public
was opened at 8:45 p.m.
A1 Enderle, owner of Enderle Center, 3662 Carmel, Irvine, stated
that he would be available to answer any questions.
Hearing no one, the hearing was closed at 8:46 p.m.
After a brief discussion it was moved by Robbins, seconded by
Hill to approve the amendment to Use Permit 74-9 by the adoption
of Resolution No. 1634. Carried 4-0.
6. USE PERMIT 77-11
To authorize the remodeling of an existing "Jack-
in-the-Box" located at 17401 17th Street.
After the presentation of the staff report by Dr. Fleagle, the
public hearing was opened at 8:50 p.m.
William Pope, 4833 Fruitman Avenue, Vernon, CA, informed the
Commission that they would revise the sign to remove the top
and would be willing to work with staff on the parking problem.
Dr. Fleagle stated that there would not be parking problem but
they would have to revise and add some landscaping to the existing
site.
The public hearing was closed at 8:57 p.m.
William Pope, stated that he had no problems with the staff
report but questioned the three wall signs. Dr. Fleagle informed
that since they already had a pole sign they would be limited to
three 25 square foot wall signs. Dr. Flea$1e also explained that
they would be limited to 66 seats since they need one parking
space for each three seats in the restaurant.
Frank Greinke, 510 West Second Street, complained that the
overflow parking from the Jack-in-the-Box is a problem to his
business which is located directly across the street. Frank
Greinke stated that the employees were parking in the street in
front of his establishment instead of in their own parking lot.
The public hearing was closed at 9:07 p.m.
After some discussion pertaining to the parking William Pope
stated that he had never heard of this employee parking problem
and informed the Commission that he would get in touch with
Frank Greinke on this problem.
Dr. Fleagle suggested that William Pope look into the possibility
of a drive-thru easement with the Sizzler Restaurant next door in
order to provide good circulation for that area. William Pope said
he would look into it.
Commissioner Harris questioned if a three to one parking ratio
is a legitimate number to work with for drive-thru restaurants in
comparison with sit-down restaurants.
Moved by McHarris, seconded by Hill to approve Use Permit 77-12
by the adoption of Resolution No. 1636. Carried 3-1. Robbins
voting no.
PUBLIC CONCERNS - None.
OLD BUSINESS - None.
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NEW BUSINESS
A short recess was taken and the meeting reconviened at 9:40 p.m.
1. TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 77-95
Norman Pulliam for Larwin Square located at the south-
westerly corner of First Street and Newport Avenue.
Moved by Robbins, seconded by Hill to recommend approval to the
City Council of Tentative Parcel Map 77-95 by the adoption of
Resolution No. 1637. Carried 4-0.
2. TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 77-96
Hon Development for Skate Palace Development loca-
ted at McFadden, Tustin Village Way and Newport
Freeway on-off ramp.
Moved by McHarris, seconded by tlill to recommend approval to the
City Council of Tentative Parcel Map 77-96 by the adoption of
Resolution No. 1639. Carried 4-0.
3. TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 77-97
Hamer, Carpenter for professional office development
on Yorba between Vandenberg Lane and Jacaranda.
Moved by Hill, seconded by McHarris to recommend approval to the
City Council of Tentative Parcel Map 77-97 by the adoption of
Resolution No. 1639. Carried 4-0.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - None.
CORRESPONDENCE - None.
STAFF CONCERNS - Dr. Fleagle announced an Energy Standards
conference on June 22 in Long Beach.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Commissioner Robbins commented that he would still like to see a
skate board rink built in Tustin. Dr. Fleagle informed that they
are still looking at the Utt Park site on Nisson Road that is
presently State property.
Commissioner McHarris commented that he would like to see a study
compiled for restaurants and parking standards. Sit-down restaur-
ants vs. take-out restaurants. Mr. McHarris also commented on the
Sign Ordinance amendment for open house sign provisions. Dr. Flea~le
stated that he feels we have the attention of the agencies since
we are not getting repeating offenders.
Commissioner Glenn stated that he felt that all Commissioners would
gladly volunteer to serve without pay and that they would be
willing to serve the City in any capacity that they could continue
to serve in the future.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved and seconded at 10:25 p.m. that the meeting be adjourned
to the next regular meeting on June 27, 1977. Carried 4-0.
PLA~ING ~M~4ISION R~-RDING SECRETARY