HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 09-22-75 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
September 22, 1975
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was
held on the twenty-second day of September, 1975, at the hour of
7:30 p.m., of said day, in the Council Chambers, City IIall,
Centennial at Main, Tustin, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Commissioner Kennedy.
INVOCATION was given by Commissioner Sucher.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Commissioners: McHarris, Hill, Kennedy, Sucher,
Shambeck
Absent:
Commissioners: None
Others Present:
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City Administrator-
Community Development Director,
Scott Nichols, City Attorney's Office
Bruce Lenorovitz, Assistant Planning Director
Moved by Shambeck, seconded b~ Sucher that the minutes of September 22,
1975, be approved.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Use Permit 75-21 on application of the Gulf Oil Company a use
permit to authorize the conversion of an existing service station
to self-serve, located at 101 North Tustin Avenue.
Mr. Lenorovitz presented the staff report and recommended approval of
the Use Permit subject to the conditions of Resolution No. 1466 as
drafted. The public hearing was opened by the Chairman at 7:45 p.m.
Mr. Armando Morales, 2322 West Third Street, Los Angeles, spoke in
favor of the application. The proposed signing for the site consists
of one sign containing price information, station identification, and
the description of the self-service operations. He requested approval
of a sign 22 feet high, 6 foot by 12 foot. The sign proposed would
have a blue border, white background and black letters. Mr. Morales
further expressed preference for sheet metal rather than wood
exterior finish. "Go-lo" is a subsidiary of the Gulf Oil Company.
Mr. Wilfred Banikhin, 961 Lamark Lane, Anaheim, representing the Gulf
Oil Company, stated that Gulf Oil does have some ground base signs,
but they are only identification signs, and price signs are in
addition to the ground base signs. The price signs are four by five
feet in size if separate from the identification sign. A monument
sign could be installed, but the company desires the most effective
signing which would be, in their opinion, the pole sign. The lub-
rication bays will be closed at the station and not rented for
mechanic~ operations.
The public hearing was closed by Chairman McHarris at 8:10 p.m.
Commissioner Hill moved the approval of Resolution No. 1466 as drafted.
And if other signing is necessary other than that which is authorized
by code, it would be subject of a separate application. Seconded by
Shambeck.
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Chairman McHarris stated he would endorse a monument sign in preference
to a pole sign for this particular site and moved an amendment to the
motion to authorize a ground base sign in lieu of pqle sign, not to
exceed 32 square feet ~nd-~ foo~' maxfmum heigh't. Sucher seconded.
Ayes: Sucher, McIlarris. Noes:
Amended motion failed to carry.
}{ill, Kennedy, Shambeck.
The vote on the motion to adopt Resolution No. 1466, as drafted:
Ayes: Shambeck, tlill, Kennedy. Noes: McHarris, Sucher.
Use Permit 75-21 was approved, subject to the following conditions:
That final development plans be submitted for staff review
and approval to include landscape, irrigation, and building
elevation (including colors) plans.
That a sign plan, pursuant to Ordinance No. 614 (The Sign Code)
be submitted for staff review and approval, indicating a pole
sign not exceeding 20 feet in height, 32 square feet of sign
area per face, with the intensity of illumination not to exceed
425 M.A. The price sign shall be integrated within the sign.
An attendant must be on duty at all times during operating
hours to supervise dispensing operations.
Compliance with City Council Resolution No. 1015 (Service
Station Development Guide) to include, but not limited to, the
maintenance and operation of the service station, and the sales
and storage of materials and products.
Environmental Impact Report 75-2 relating to the development
of Lot 116 bf Tract 7'8~3 with single-family homes and
additional park land.
The staff report was presented by Mr. Fleagle with recommended
conditions of approval specified in the draft resolution. A letter
was also read from Lowry and Associates regarding water pressure
problems. It was stated that in regards to the cost/revenue pro-
jections included within the Environmental Impact Reports, the
methodology to determine the impact of this development was incorrect;
however the project is not of a size or scope to warrant any
additional studies, and any additional study would produce little
change in the overall figures.
Commissioners Shambeck and Sucher stated that they would abstain
from any consideration of the project for possible potential conflicts
of interest.
Todd Ferguson, president of the Peppertree Homeowners Association,
~pok--e to the Environmental Impact Report and stated that the sig-
nificant issues raised in the report are adequately identified and
reviewed. He favored certification of the Environmental Impact
Report.
The public hearing was closed at 8:40 p.m. by Chairman McHarris.
Chairman McHarris stated that the impacts identified in the Environ-
mental Impact Report are properly identified and analyzed, and
recommended that the Environmental Impact Report be certified.
Commissioner Kennedy moved and Commissioner Hill second that
Resolution No. 1467 be' adhered.
MOTION CARRIED: Aves: McHarris, Hill, Kennedy. Noes:
3-0 Abstained: Shambeck, Sucher. Absent:
None.
None.
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Proposed amendment to Land Use and Open Space Elements of
the Tustin area GeneraI Plan: a change in designation of
Lot 116 of Tract 7813 from Public and Institutional land
use to Planned Community-Residential.
Mr. Fleagle gave the staff report and read a recently submitted
letter of the Peppertree Homeowners Association which contained
their recommendations. Recommendations of the Parks and Recreation
Commission stated that additional land requirements of a parcel
350 by 340 feet should be required which would allow enough room
to provide a multi-sports playfield and ball diamond. The staff
recommendations and alternatives contained in the staff report
were reviewed. Commissioners Shambeck and Sucher abstained on
this matter to alleviate any possib~lit~e~ ~f potential conflicts
of interest.
Hardy Strozier, a representative of The Irvine Company, the applicant,
addressed the Commission. Mr. Strozier stated that if the proposed
amendment to the land use and open space plan were approved, that
the request would be followed up with an application to build 44
single-family homes on this 8 acre parcel, and to provide an
additional .8 acres of open space. The Irvine Company had initially
proposed to provide an additional .4 acres but felt that that would
not be enough to provide for practical development and orientation
of the tennis courts and ball field for Magnolia Park. It was
further stated that The Irvine Company would pay for two of the
three tennis courts to be constructed, with the City paying for
the third. The total amount of open space in the Peppertree devel-
opment would be 4.09 acres which calculates out at a ratio of 3.29
acres per 1,000 residents in the Peppertree subdivision. This
contrasts with 8 acres for 3,700 people, or 2.13 acres per 1,000
residents in Tustin Meadows. Magnolia Park, which had been improved
at the cost of the developer of Peppertree, cost a total of $142,000.
It was further stated that construction of anything less than 44
dwelling units would result in an unfeasible project.
Tod~ F_erguson, president of the Peppertree IIomeowners Association,
stated that they have discussed the project with the existing
residents of the Peppertree subdivision and feel that they have
the consensus of the people in the tract. He wanted the Commission
to remember that Peppertree is a planned community, initially
proposed with a park and a school. He also stated that all traffic
would exit onto Alder Lane, increasing traffic along the existing
street. Mr. Ferguson requested a careful consideration of the
alternatives be given, recalling that the commitment to the people
was for a school and a park, and this is what was represented to the
home buyers of Peppertree.
John Connoly, a Peppertree homeowner, commented that the Commission
should keep the proposal in perspective, and that The Irvine Company
can provide for adequate parks. It was his feeling that there needs
to be a compromise between the 44 dwelling units proposed for
construction by The Irvine Company and the 8 acres of open space
initially proposed in the development.
~ Strozier again commented that the development must "pencil out"
in regards to feasibility and the number of units permitted to be
constructed there.
Gina Matek, traffic commissioner, expressed her concern regarding
the--Thorman school and stated that it is important to look at
long range implications of no additional schools being constructed
in the south Tustin area.
Mr. Fleagle, Community Development Director, asked the homeowners
association if they had a preference of open space and raw land as
opposed to physical improvements of the existing park site. That is,
whether they would prefer 5 acres of park land and open space with
1 acre of raw land, versus 4 acres of parks with physical improve-
ments added. Mr. Ferguson responded that they would prefer the 4
acres with the improvements. Questions were posed related about
membership in the Peppertree Homeowners Association. Mr. Ferguson
commented that of the 215 homes existing in the tract, 110 are
members of the association, and that the association is voluntary,
not mandatory.
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Cap Moody, from The Irvine Company's Residential Division, stated
that so far $114,291 had been spent for the Magnolia Park.
indicated that new homes, which would be able to be constructed by
next May, might cost $5,000 more than the existing homes.
Commissioner IIill moved, Commissioner Kennedy second, a motion to
c--~--~ public hearing. ~
MOTION CARRIED: 3-0 Commissioners Shambeck, Sucher abstained.
The public hearing was closed at 9:50 p.m.
Commissioner McIIarris commented that the intensity of use is much
more for active recreation facilities than for raw park land,
i.e. that physical improvements to parks will intensify the use,
as opposed to a park that is merely landscaped.
Commissioner IIill commented that this problem was not caused by
the Planning Commission, but there have been promises made on the
part of the school district to homeowners regarding the construc-
tion of a school injunction with a city park. However, at this
point, one must examine the economics, the commitments, and
possibilities as presented by The Irvine Company. He stated that
he felt the compromise could be made in regards to the proposal
of the construction of 44 homes, tennis courts and a ball diamond.
Commissioner McHarris indicated that economics is a prime consider-
ation, and that with no school to be constructed, a trade-off is
necessary to provide the maximum amount of open space.
Commissioner Kennedy indicated that the proposed site for a school
within '£he Peppertree subdivision was the most ideal site in the
City of Tustin for a school. She felt it was the poorest oossible
planning on the part of the school board in deleting the school,
and that there is no good solution between the wants of the
Peppertree Homeowners Association for 40 units and additional
open space, and The Irvine Company for the construction of 44 units.
Commissioner Ilill spoke against the alternative of leaving the
schoo~ land fallow until a bond issue could possibly be voted
upon by the voters to acquire the full amount of open space. IIe
indicated the land should not be left fallow, that it must be
developed.
Commissioner McHarris questioned the staff as to whether an
examina~i°n-'has been made of a different form of housing for
Lot 116, such as patio homes or a cluster development.
Mr. Fleagle indicated that staff has strong preference for cluster
development to maintain a maximum amount of open space and that
consideration had been given to the proposal, but was rejected
because of the housing styles presently existing and the change in
the land use pattern which would result. He further felt that it
was a commitment to the residents of the tract that a single-family
home configuration development would be constructed there. He
further indicated that it would be preferable for Ayres to develop
the tract because of a consistency in housing patterns and
characteristics.
Commissioner Sucher questioned staff as to whether consideration
had been given to the formation of an assessment district to
acquire the full amount of acreage for open space and park land.
Mr. Fleagle responded that it was a possibility and explained
the procedures of a petition by homeowners and a 51 percent
majority vote in an election.
Commissioner Hill reviewed and discussed the three alternatives
being considered by the Commission. Mr. Fleagle indicated that a
determination must be made on policy, and it is the position of
the Commission to recommend to the Council what policy should be
followed, with the Council making the ultimate decision.
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Mr. Fleagle further reviewed the choices available, that
Alternative-1 is 5 acres of open space and park land be required
with an additional 1.7 acres to be improved at public expense
at such time as public funds are available, with the second
alternative being the development of 4 acres of park land and
open space and dedication with the park land to be developed by
the construction of three tennis courts on land in addition to
that presently approved for park use. Two of the courts shall
be fully improved at no expense to the City of Tustin.
Chairman McHarris questioned as to whether the resolution should
state fully their reasoning in regards to the most suitable choice.
Mr. Fleagle responded that it would be most appropriate to put the
reasoning and thoughts in to a letter of transmittal to the City
Council along with the Planning Commission action and resolution.
Commissioner Kennedy moved, Commissioner Hill second, that Resolution
No.--I4~, incorporating Alternati~e-l'be submitted with a letter
of transmittal to the City Council and with additional negotiations
regarding the number of units to be constructed.
MOTION CARRIED: 3-0. Commissioners Shambec~, Sucher abstained.
OLD BUSINESS - None
NEW BUSINESS
1. Traffic Commission Report:
Red Hill & Walnut Intersection. On the motion of
Commis'sioner Hill, ~econd by Commissioner Sucher,
and unanimously approved, the report bf the City
Engineer was received and filed, indicating that
the Traffic Commission would schedule the matter
for their agenda on October 21, 1975.
Circulation Element. By unanimous consent, a joint
session of th~lanning Commission and Traffic Com-
mission was scheduled for Tuesday, October 21, 1975,
at 7:30 p.m. in the City Hall Conference Room, to
discuss the circulation element of the General Plan.
Stater Brot~ers_Shoppin~ Center Traffic Problems.
On the motion ~f Kenhedy, second by Sucher and
unanimously carried, staff was directed to forward
the recommended solutions to the traffic hazard at
the northwesterly area of the Stater Brothers
Shopping Center to the property owner for his action.
STAFF CONCERNS
Joint Council-Commission Workshop, September 29, 1975.
The 'following items were suggested f~r the j0int Council-
Commission workshop scheduled for September 29, 1975:
a. Preservation of Historical Properties
b. Scope of Downtown Development Program
c. Status of Committees
- Bike Path
- Signs in Public Right-of-Way
d. Preservation of Open Space in Planned Developments
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COMMISSION CONCERNS
League of California Cities Conference. Chairman McIIarris
announced tha't he wou'l~ represent the Commission at the League of
California Cities Conference in San Francisco on October 19-22, 1975.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Kennedy, second by Commissioner Hill, to
adjourn at 11:30 p.m. to the next regular meeting of the Planning
Commission.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
PLANNING COMMISSION R~ORDING SECRETARY