HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 07-14-75 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
July 14, 1975
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was held
on the fourteenth day of July, 1975, at the hour of 7:30 p.m., of said
day, in the Council Chambers, City Hall, Centennial at Main, Tustin,
California.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Commissioners: Dukleth, Hill, Kennedy, Schier
Absent:
Commissioners: McHarris
Others
Present:
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City Administrator-
Community Development Director
Bruce Lenorovitz, Assistant Planning Director
James Rourke, City Attorney
Marge Will, Recording Secretary
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Commissioner Kennedy.
INVOCATION was given by Commissioner Hill.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Schier, seconded by Hill that the minutes of June 23, 1975 be
approved as amended.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
Mr. Fleagle told the Commission Commissioner McHarris has asked to be
excused this evening due to his travel to Alabama to participate in the
space flight.
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
Use Permit 75-14 - On application of Lyle Anderson Jr. - to permit
the use of subject premises for an auto parts store.
Mr. Fleagle told the Commission application was submitted on June 9 for
a public hearing for the proposal to establish an automobile parts store
at 145 West First Street. The question was raised at that hearing relative
to the relocation assistance paid to the previous occupant of that premise
in relationship to the present use, which is the same use only to a lesser
degree. The matter was on the agenda of June 23 and continued to this time
and place at the request of the attorney for the applicant. The public
hearing is still a public hearing and it is staff's position that the matter
of equity in the property and the city's payment of relocation assistance
is a matter between the City Attorney and the City Council and the applicant,
and therefore staff would recommend approval of the use permit by adoption
of Resolution No. 1450 which would permit the operation of an automobile
parts store at that location.
Commissioner Hill asked staff if the 4 alternatives are still open. Mr.
Fleagle rep~'ied the 4 alternatives are still open to the City Council.
Planning Commission may recommend alternative #4 which approves the use
with the city to reserve the options open for any subsequent action for
damages.
The
Commissioner Schier inquired whether Mr. Rourke has any other comments
concerning this case than we had at the last meeting. Mr. Flea~le replied
there is no formal communication from the City Attorney. He does however
recommend that the matter be on the agenda and endorses staff's recommenda-
tion for alternative #4.
Opened public hearing at 7:40 p.m.
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Lyle Anderson commented on one of the conditions of the use permit which is
that he pave the rear alley adjacent to his property. He said this is a
dead-end alley and there would be no traffic on it whatsoever, and we are
landscaping the rear of our building. We have extended ourselves financially
to improve our property and don't feel we would have to improve the city's
property also. He has a letter from the City dated July 12, 1974 which states
the alley adjacent to the rear property line is existing as a dirt surface.
This alley is not wide enough to pass fire fighting services to the rear
of the proposed structure. Nothing can get through so why should we have
to pave it?
Commissioner Dukleth said he was not in a position to answer his question
but that it is customary that public thoroughfares are improved adjacent to
properties.
Commissioner Kennedy asked Mr. Anderson how are your delivery trucks going
to get in and back out? Mr. Anderson replied they would come in on the
west side. We will only use about 15' of the city property and no plans
to use the rest of it. It will be used for delivery entrance and exit only.
Commissioner Schier asked staff what are the regulations regarding the alley.
Mr. Fleagle replied there is a public policy statement adopted by the City
Council requiring the developer to improve the properties both front and
rear of the adjoining property when developed. There is no way the rear
door can be serviced by trucks unless they pull past the door without
blocking the adjoining property. In this instance the owner of the
property was relieved of the necessity of improving the frontage on First
Street since it was a city project. It's not an unusual nor unreasonable
requirement.
Commissioner Kennedy wanted to know if the alley would ever be used for
parking in the future? Mr. Anderson replied all parking is in the front.
Closed public hearing at 7:45 p.m.
James Rourke, City Attorney stated that the questions raised earlier about
the prior use and relocation assistance matters have been resolved to the
satisfaction of staff, and the Commission does not need to further concern
itself with any matter. It has been reviewed and brought to the attention
of the City Council and been determined that the Commission should not hold
up or otherwise be concerned with the problem.
In answer to the Commission's question, Mr. Fleagle explained that if a man
were coming in to develop raw land, he would be required as a condition of
the development to dedicate the right of way and improve to city standards
which means curb, gutter, paving and sidewalks. In this particular case,
Mr. Anderson was paid for the right of way so he did not have to dedicate
it and the improvements were put in at public expense. As far as the alley
is concerned, Mr. Fleagle stated it would be to the adjoining property
owner (Mr. Fredriksen) advantage to let a contract jointly for paving, as
it will be less expensive for him to proceed with the paving at this time
rather than later when he develops the property. If the Commission so
desires, we will contact Mr. Fredriksen to ascertain if he would agree to
participate in the joint paving of the alley.
Moved by Commissioner Schier, seconded by Kennedy to adopt Resolution No.
1450 as drafted with the stipulation that the Planning Department contact
the adjacent property owner, Mr. Fredriksen, to see if he will participate
in the complete paving of the alleyway so that the alley is done at the
same time for the joint benefit of both property owners.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
1. Initial Use Permit 75-16
Mr. Lenorovitz explained that an application has been received by the
architectural firm of Hippe and Randell on behalf of Henry Ho for a use
permit to authorize the completion of a fast food drive-in restaurant
facility at 14551 NEWPORT Avenue. The site was previously authorized as
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Minnie Pearl's fast-food operation by a use permit granted in 1969 but the
site was vacated prior to its completion and remained unused since that time.
The applicants propose to refurbish and complete the existing building shell,
and to construct the on- and off-site improvements as necessary. Comments
were received from the Building Official regarding structural analysis,
kitchen equipment, resubmission of electrical plans, drainage plans, and
related items. The City Engineer's comments pertained to parking lot layout,
driveway depressions, and various other items. The Fire Marshal stated
that the building must meet minimum fire code requirements which should be
indicated at the time of the precise plan review. Staff feels the use seems
to be compatible with surrounding land uses and zoning, and some refinements
to the preliminary plans will be necessary such as provision for access for
the handicapped, review of revision of parking lot layout and circulation,
screening treatment of roof mounted equipment if it remains at the present
location, and signing. It is recommended that a use permit be granted through
adoption of Resolution No. 1455 specifying the conditions including the need
for submittal of revised plot and elevation plans for review and approval by
staff, and landscaping, irrigation, lighting and sign plans submitted at a
later date.
Opened public hearing at 8:05 p.m.
George Randell, architect said the purpose of the development is to turn this
property in~o the use it was originally intended for. There is not a tenant
for the property as yet. We are searching for a suitable tenant but in the
meantime the property is being brought into line according to the City of
Tustin standards. The exterior of the building will be rebuilt and lighted
preparatory for a tenant, which hopefully arrives in the near future. The
basic structure will remain as it is without any further enlargement or
alterations. The structure has been badly vandalized with some of the facing
and roofing material and equipment either destroyed or carried off. This
damage has to be repaired and the structure closed in in order to conform to
the original form and specifications. If the tenant should require some
alterations to the basic structure, we would propose to come back to the
Planning Commission for their approval.
Commissioner Schier inquired whether there would be a few tables either
~nside or outside. Mr. Randell replied that it would be a combination take-
out and some outdoor service.
Commissioner Dukleth questioned if there would be any problem on meeting the
handicap requirements? Mr. Randell replied the building had been started
long before this law became effective, however, with a one-story building
there would be no problems.
Commissioner Schier asked Mr. Randell if the recommendations made by the City
Engineer and Fire Marshal are satisfactory to his review. Mr. Randell
answered affirmative.
Closed public hearing at 8:15 p.m.
Commissioner Kennedy questioned the width of the driveway. Mr. Lenorovitz
replied staff examined other possible layouts, but could not come up with
any other configuration. With the minimum amount of landscaping around the
perimeter limits the possibility of additional parking.
Moved b~ Hill, seconded by Schier, to adopt Resolution No. 1455 as drafted.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
PUBLIC CONCERNS
Mrs. Margaret Byrd, 151 N. "B" Street, Tustin, stated she understands the
Bel Air Motel was planning on adding a coffee shop and wanted to know where
the parking would be for this addition?
Mr. Lenorovitz replied that through a Zoning Administrator action approximately
a month ago a use permit was approved for the coffee shop. Part of the complex
will be facing E1 Camino Real, and close scrutiny to the parking was a
limiting factor in the number of seats that were permitted for the coffee shop.
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In answer to Mrs. Byrd's question whether parking is permitted on E1 Camino
Real, Mr. Lenorovitz replied at the present time it is; but there is a good
possibility it might be red-curbed in the future according to the City
Engineer's report. The applicant was made aware of this, but stated that
most of the business would be coming from the motel itself. Perhaps they
might get some walk-in business from the downtown area.
OLD BUSINESS - None
NEW BUSINESS
1. Revitalization of the Downtown Area
Mr. Fleagle presented a slide presentation of PROD, a private downtown
redevelopment project in Santa Cruz. The slides included pictures of
commercial redevelopments in other cities and states. The Santa Cruz
redevelopment was achieved by an assessment district, under the Municipal
Improvement Act of 1913, without Federal funding.
C_ommissioner Hill stated it would be interesting to see the financial
review for t~is project. Mr. Fleagle said that it cost the merchants
$100 per running front foot for d'evelopment of the mall in Santa Cruz,
and that it might not cost as much for the E1 Camino Real project. Santa
Cruz has a semi-mall which is strongly recommended as it is less expensive
and the total assessment was $337,489 -- the city contribution $34,000,
private contribution $9,000, and covered an area of about 4 or 5 blocks.
With these slides we can show the businessmen in the area what can be
done and what our objective is with the design study for the E1 Camino
Real property.
Commissioner Dukleth asked whether staff would keep this presentation
for further showing to other groups, i.e., City Council and Chamber of
Commerce. Mr. Fleagle replied we would retain possession and show it to
the City Council, merchants in the area, and the Chamber of Commerce
and should go along with the study that is awarded for the design of
E1 Camino Real.
At the request of Mr. Fleagle, Mr. Randell explained the London Town
development near the Anaheim Convention Center which is a complete
shopping village which supports and enhances recreational activities
surrounding Disneyland. London Town was selected as the theme for the
entire development tieing everything together in one integrated develop-
ment. This development is in phases and developed when resources become
available. Mr. Fleagle asked Mr. Randell if he could visualize E1 Camino
Real taking on the character of the Santa Cruz mall. Mr. Randell replied
that this type of redevelopment would revitalize downtown Tustin and make
it grow and come back to life. Tustin has a his%ory and a tradition with
a lot of citizens who have been here a long time who understand and know
the area and all this adds up to something unique which would make Tustin
very much in the flavor of Santa Cruz only it will be different.
Commissioner Hill commented that the only missing ingredient is a general
plan outlining the economic benefit to the merchants who will participate.
John DeGennaro, 301 E1 Camino Real, Tustin, wanted to know how to gain
control of the property as there are too many individual property owners.
We have found it difficult to get control of enough property to be able
to do anything.
Commissioner Kennedy wanted to know how many landowners, percentagewise,
~ould h~ve to participate in the E1 Camino Real project to get it started.
Mr. Flea~le replied 60% of the property owners would guarantee formation
of an improvement district. There has been a change over the years in
property ownership, as well as leadership in the downtown business
community, and we have no way of assessing how many would be willing to
participate in the redevelopment program at the present time.
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Commissioner Schier stated he would be interested to see how other
c'i'ties got the interest of their absentee property owners who are
sitting on old properties and letting them deteriorate.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - None
CORRESPONDENCE - None
STAFF CONCERNS
Mr. Fleagle told the Commission on Tuesday morning the Traffic
Committee of the County will meet on the Laurinda Way realignment
on 17th Street and I have been requested to attend that meeting.
We have advertised at City Council direction a public hearing for
an amendment to the sign code for the purpose of determining the
desirability of public input into "open house" directional signs.
This hearing is scheduled for the Commission's July 28 meeting,
and we will have some additional staff material for this meeting.
COMMISSION CONCERNS - None
Moved by Hill, seconded by Kennedy to adjourn at 9:50 p.m. to the
next regular meeting on July 28, 1975.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
P~yIN~C~MMISS ION CHAIRMAN
PLANNING/COMMISSION RECORDING SECRETARY