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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 03-26-73M1NUTI'i,q OF A RI.XiIJI,AR ~.II']I'2TIN¢i OF TIIE TUSTIN PLANNIN(i CoMMrssION DATE: March Z~, 1973 TIME: 7:30 p.m. P~'.ACE: Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street PRESENT: Dorabrow, Ilare,. Larnar.d., Mcllarris and ABSENT: None Sharp INDEX PAGE ROLL CALL ...................................... 1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF March 12, 19 73 .................... 1 PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued Item Public Works Yard - UP-73-6 PC Initiated ..... 1-2 New Items UP-73-7- Pup 'n' Taco . 2-3 V-73-2 United California'Bank''''''''''''''-'- -- -'''''''''''''' - 3-4 OLD BUSINESS Extension of Time - Tentative Tract Map No. 7846 - Jack McLean ....... 4 Extension of Time - Use Permit 71-364 ....... 5 Modification of Plans for UP-71-370 ...... ~... 5 Adoption of Resolution No. 1327 for Parcel Map 73-61 .................... 6 Summary Report of Orange County Growth Policy 6 NEW BUSINESS Negative 'Declaration - Bryan Avenue Storm Drain 6 Building Addition - Foster Art Service 6-7 CORRESPONDENCE League of Cities ............................. 7 League of Women Voters ................. ~ ..... 7 Southern California Planning Congress ........ 7 STAFF CONCERNS .................................. 7 COMblISSION CONCERNS ............................. 7 AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION .......................... 7 ADJOURNMENT ................ ~ ....... · ............. 8 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF TIIE MARCII 26, 1973 The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was held on the 26th day of March, 1973, at the hour of 7:30 p.m., of said day in the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street, Tustin, California. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Chairman Sharp. The Invocation was given by Commissioner Hare. ROLL CALL: Present: Absent: Others Present: Dombrow, Hare, Lar~ard, McHarris, and Sharp. None James G. Rourke, City Attorney; R. Kenneth Fleagle, Ass't. City Administrator - Community Development Dir.; Bruce Lenorovitz, Ass't Planning Director; Mary Ann Chamberlain, Planning Commission Recording Secretary. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING MARCH 12, 1973 Commissioner Dombrow moved for approval of the Minutes of the March 12, 1973 meeting; seconded by Commissioner McF~arris. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued Item UP-73-6 - Planning Commission Initiated - by direction of the City Council, to authorize the establishment of the Public Works Maintenance facilities in the R-1 District for a period of 18 months, pending improvement of per- manent location. Location: Site is located on the east side of Prospect Avenue, northerly of Irvine Boulevard, south of Beneta Way, known as 14702 Prospect. Mr. Fleagle explained that this Use Permit was the subject of a public hearing March 12, 1973. At that time the Commission re- quested that Staff investigate and report on other possible altern- atives. The following were suggested alternatives which have been explored: Joint usage with Santa Ana. The Public Works Director of Santa Aha reported that these facilities are at a maximum saturation of use. Joint facilities' on existing school properties. ~he Assistant School Superintendent reported that there is no space available on any school properties including the property located between "B" and "C" Sts. Graves & Howley facility - 17872 Main Street. The landowner and operator of this facility advised that "~,~re ~ ~^ ila~l^ at ~'~'- ":-'- £or ......... area ava vehicle storage or any additional capacity for vehicle maintenance at this site. PC Minutes 3/26/'/3 Page two The City Council on March 19, 1973, further discussed the location of the. Public Works yard, as well as the comments and evaluation of the Planning Commission. They have given assurance that the park development will proceed as rapidly as possible, and to allay any apprehension ,~s to the ultimate development of the Public Wor~-~ facility, have instructed the Ci'ty Administrator to initiate pro- ceedings for the design and development of the ultimate site sour of Sycamore Avenue. The Commissioners questioned Mr. Fleagle about the property across from the Marine Helicopter Station. Mr. Fleagle reported that this site had been looked into and the structures are being condemned and would not be adaptable for this particular use. Commissioner Larnard moved for adoption of Resolution No. 1322; seconded by Commissioner McHarris. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 New Items UP-73-7 - Pup 'n' Taco - to permit the operation of a ~rive-up fast food restaurant and parking facilities. Location: Southwest corner of First Street and E1 Camino Real. Mr. Lenorovitz summarized the Staff report and stated that the Development Preview Commission made the followin~ recommendations: Elimination of the most easterly drive way on First Street as per Engineering Department ations. Additional 3' X 3' tree wells and planting of 15 gallon trees. ® A six foot planter strip around the perimeter of the site. 4. Landscaping treatment adjacent to the building. 5. A groundbased monument sign. The Commissioners discussed the matter of outside speakers and decided that they definitely should be prohibited'because of the adjacent land uses. Also there shoul~ be limited hours of operation. Mr. Wendell suggested 10 p.m. on week-day nights and midnight on Fridays and Saturdays. Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:55. Russell Wendell Jr., Pup 'n' Taco, 4220 Long Beach Boulevard, Long Beach, expl'ained to the Commissioners that it was very important that they keep the drive w~y that the City Engineer requested to be closed off. Commissioner Dombrow responded that this drive way was too dangerous because o~ the right turn oqly lane on that corner. Mr. Wendell questioned the Commission as to what the traffic co'm~t is on that corner for a particular day. Chairman Shard resDo~ded tha~ the Commission could not debate the t~dff~c s~tu--~n: this kad to be discussed with the City Engineer. Chairman Sharp stated that he felt this ~em should be continued to their next regular meeting and in the ineant~me Mr. Wondell should meet wit]] Staff and iron out all tl~e difficulties. --2--I PC Minute:; 3/2 /v Page three Mr. Fleaqle questioned Mr. Wendell if he had brought a sign plan and Mr. Wendell stated that he had not. Mr. Fleagle stated that he had previously advised Mr. Wendell that the Planning Commission did not want to consider the' matter in the absence of proposed signing. Commissioner Larnard moved to continue this hearing until the next regular,meeting, April 9, 1973; seconded by Commissioner Hare. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0. 2. V-73-2 - United California Bank - to permit the installation of one (1) 4' X 12' monument type sign with an overall height of Dot more than 5' above grade directly below the sign, and the replacement of the nonilluminated letters over the entrance to the building with an internally illuminated sign cabinet. Location: 1140 E. Irvine Blvd., Tustin Mr. Fleagle summarized the Staff report and gave a brief history of the variance for a free-standin~ sign they had previously submitted. At that time the'Commission den. ied the free-standing pole sign but recommended that they consider a ground based mon- %unent type sign; this being the reason for tonight's hearing. The Development Preview Commission considered this item and made the following recommendations: 1. The approval of a monument sign to be located two feet from the sidewalk. Since this sign would serve the same purpose of the existing logo sign on the same side of the building, the recommendation was made to remove the logo sign in lieu of the monument sign. They further suggested scaling down the mon- ument sign's dimensions to conform to the site, landscaping, and tasteful architecture of the building. A mock-6p be placed in the proposed sign location to see if the site warranted a 4' X 12' sign. The replacement of the metallic-lettered signs with the two internally illuminated signs and that the existing logo signs at the bank entrances remain, but not continue to be illuminated. Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 8:05 p.m. Gary Hall, 2949 Myers, 'Burbank, Sign representative for UCB presented overlays to the Commissioners outlining the proposed signing. Mr. Hall stated that they have based the size of the monument sign on the basis of the letter size and the visibility range of the cars traveling around the curve at 35 MPH. The Commissioners discussed scaling down the sign to 3' X 10' and agreed to have a mock-up at a time and aate to be determined later to decide on the size of the monument sign. Don Olsen, Manager o'f UCB, stated that over the past five years they have conducted studies and found that identity is a major problem for the bank. They have tried to beautify the area with additional landscaping and now are obscured by shrubbery. After being questioned about the lighting and time of the sign, Mr. O~::e? ~,tate,~ ~.-hnt thc ligh~.n in the ~ign~ wou.~,~ bo turned off at 10 p.m. like the rest of the shopping center. 3/26/73 Page four Bob ]{ic~ar~s, 011 b. b;3ring, Los An.qeios, archii:ect for UCB informed th6' Commissioners that after tile signing is completed they._would remodel landscaping and mound off the areas near the entranceways. Chairman Sharp closed the public Portion of the hearing at 8:35 p.m. After some discussion, the Commissioners concurred among themselv¢ th'at a hardship existed for identity of the facility and the sign- ing was a very reasonable proposal to resolve the Bank's identifi. cation problem. Commissioner McIIarris moved to direct Staff to prepare a Resolutiom approving this variance with the following stipulations: The lighting to be removed from the existing logo signs at the entrances to the bank. 2. The lighting in the signs is to cease at 10 p.m. The monument sign will not exceed 5' above the sidewalk grade. The logo on the side 6f the parking lot may be illuminated. 5. The logo ~ign on the street side is to be removed. A flagging of the monument sign for the Co~missioners to view and then determine the size of the sign. Seconded by Commissioner Hare. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 OLD BUSINESS 1. Extension of Time - Tentative Tract Map No. 7846 - Jack McLean Mr. Flea~le explained to the Commission that Tentative Tract No. will expire on April 22, 1973, and the developer is requesting a one-year extension of time on this tentative tract map. Mr. Fleagle stated that at that time the Planning Commission was the body that approved tract maps. Since then, the Code has been changed so that the City Council is now the body that approves tentative tract maps. Mr. Fleagle feels that it would be appropriate to deny this request inasmuch as the Ordinance has been changed since it was first approved. If this tentative map is denied there are two actions left to the developer. The developer may wait until he is ready to develop and refile a new tentative map. 0 The developer may appeal to the City Council and the City Council at that time can determine whether or not they want. to approve the map as submitted by granting an extension; or whether they would requ_st re-submission at a later date.. Co~,issioner Larnard moved to deny this request; seconded by Co~mnissioner Dombrow. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 -4- 3/26/73 Page five 2. I~x~ensxo~ or 'l'xme - Use Permit 71-364 Nur. sery at 1505 Nisson. Mr. Lenorovitz explained that this extension is to permit continued use of subject property as a landscape nursery with sales of plant materials, for an additional six month period. Chairman Sharp questioned Staff if the City Engineer had suggested street improvements before approving another extension of this use permit. Mr. Fleagle stated that the Commission had overruled that suggestion the last time this item was a public hearing because the owner would not make the improvements since this is a temporary use. The lessee also stated that he would not find it feasible to make street improvements. Commissioner Hare moved to adopt Resolution No. 1330 granting a six month extension of the temporary use permit on application No. UP-71-364, of Eugene F. Tutt; seconded by Commissioner Dombrow. Commissioner Larnard expressed concern that the Commission would not be setting a precedence for other cases in regards to extending the temporary use of this property. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 3. Modification of plans fo~ Use Permit 71-370 - Eddy Meredith Mr. Fleagle summarized the Staff report and advised that the applicant intends to revise the central building of a five-building complex. Under previously approved plot plans, the central building was to be three stories tall (height 49'6"). Th'e applicant would like to revise the center building to be able to erect a four-story building (height 5~'6") with less ground coverage than before. The applicant also stated that although the four-story building would be more costly, would provide less rentable area, and have a lower efficiency rate, he feels it would be aesthetically superior, and would make a larger contribution to the desirability of the project as a whole. Chairman Sharp questioned Staff if the property owners are aware of the change. Mr. Fleagle responded that the modification had not been advertised as a publ-i~ hearing. The use of the property had been approved by a Use Permit, as an appropriate use within the zone. The request was a modification in the plot' plan and elevation exhibit. There is a reduction in land coverage and an increase of 6' in height. Due to the fact that it is a modification in building plans and not a change in use, it is referred to the Commission for approval with- out notice and hearing. Commissioner Dombrow stated that he viewed it not as 6', but rather as another story, and felt it should be a public hearing. Commissioner Larnard felt it was a very minor change and could have been heard by the Development Preview Commission and is not a part of the use permit. Chairman Sharp gave a brief history of the project for the three Commissioners that had not heard the use permit public hearing. He further stated that because of the added story, the privacy of the adjoining property owners would not be infringed upon. Commissioner Larnard moved to fidopt Resolution No. 1331 modifying a previously granted use permit (application No. UP-71-370), of Eddy i-k:~udiLh; z;ccc,~dc¢] by Conunis:..i. oner iiart~_. MOTION CARRIED: 4-1 Ayes: Not~ s: llare, l,arnard, Mcllarris, Sharp l)omb row -5- PC [,Ii nUht;:; /26/v3 Page six ......... ~, ............. s ~,,c ~onccrns of ,%he Com,~lsslon., the Community Development Department would inform the adjacent property owners of the action taken by the Commission. Adoption of Resolution No. 1327 - Parcel Map 73-61 - Irvine Industrial Complex Commissioner Dombrow moved for adoption of Resolution No. 1327 approving Parcel Map application No. 73-61; .seconded by Commissior Hare. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 5. Summary report of Orange County Growth Policy Mr. Fleaqle reviewed the summary"report and stated that in his opin- ion the best means of controlling growth is to remove the County from the role of providing urban services to fringe area develop- ments. For effective implementation of a growth policy, he suggest~ that cities should have the right to exclusively control land de- velopments within their spheres of influence. Economic factors are the controlling influences and ~. Fleagle suspects that the growtt~ policy document is a meaningless exercise in paper work until such time as governments are organized and given the authority ~o con- trol their environs. " Chairman Shar~ suggested that with the public hearing promised, perhaps it would bring some benefit. Commissioner Dombrow added that it may never be achieved but should be viewed as a potential guideline. NEW BUSINESS 1. Negative Declaration - Bryan Avenue Storm Drain Mr. Fleagle stated that this project is in conformance with the Tustin Area General Plan. Commissioner Larnard moved that Resolution No. 1328 be adopted; seconded by Commissioner Dombrow. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 2. Building addition for Foster Art Services Mr. Fleagle reported that Foster Arts has submitted for Planning Commission approval, a 6,700 square foot addition to an existing warehouse. The Development Preview Commission reviewed the plans and recommended that the project should be suitably landscaped and did not want to imply approval of the existing layout, parking, landscaping or future addition as they now proposed. The in- terior of this plot is nearly devoid of landscaping. If landscap- ing were added to the interior of this development, it would in effect preclude ultimate development plans due to lack of parking accommodations. Compounding this problem is the use of existing buildings for other than industrial uses, thereby placing an addi- tional burden upon parking accommodations. " Tom Boyle, 12631 Kenwood Lane, representing Foster Art Services, conunented that two of the uses, Scientology and Moose Lodge oper- ate after bu.~iness hours in the evenings. -6- .... 3/:?r. ~ ? ..'~ PC J'.1i,.~, e., , Page seven Comm.isn~oner Dombrow move,.'i t~) ccntinue this ii:em in order }-0'~-'S~i']: hno applicant to ,'.~b~a~n more input on the circulation, landscaping, and parking; 3econded by Commissioner Larnard. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0 CORRESPONDENCE 1. Notice of meeting to be held on March 30, 1973 in Newport Beach, regarding League of Cities "Action Plan for the Future of California Cities". Mr. Fleagl? advised the Commissioners that the League is taking affirmative action to suggest legislation pertaining to Revenue, Taxation, Environmental Qualities, Labor Relations, and Social Issues. Commissioner Dombrow stated that he would represent the Tustin Planning Commi~sion~ 2. Invitation from League of Women Voters for a program to be held on March 29, 1973, regarding "Growing Pains - What Policies for Orange County". 3. Southern California Planning Co~ress' meeting announcement for April 12, 1973. STAFF CONCERNS Mr. Fleagle reported that the April 2, 1973 Agenda for the Tustin ~ity Council would include: Land Use Element, Development Stand- ards, and Environmehtal Impact Rep ts. The Planning Commissioners have a scheduled workshop session with the Council prior to this meeting at 6:30 in the Council Chambers. COMMISSION CONCERNS Eommissioner Dombrow informed the Commission that he would be ~nable to attend the April 9, 1973 meeting. Commissioner McHarris questioned Mr. Fleagle as to the status of %he Sign Ordinan-ce and Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Fleagle responded that the Council appointed a sign committee chaired by ~. Frank Greinke. They have been meeting one morning a week for the past two months and expects a report in the immediate future. The Zoning Ordinance is in the process of being revised. Commissioner Hare questioned Mr. Fleagle as to the height of the new Council Chambers. Mr. Fleagle answered that the City is waiting for the final working drawings and the height will be approximately 2 stories. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION Bruce Snyder, Chamber of Commerce informed the Commissioners and Staff that the Sign Ordinance Committee had their final session today and the report will be available soon. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Larnard moved to adjourn to a workshop session with -7- PC l.linutes 3/26/73 Page e~ght the City Council on April 2, 1973 at 6:30 p.m. and then to a regular meeting on April 9, 1973 at 7:30 p.m.; seconded by Commissioner }{are. ,- CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING CO~,5~IiSSION PLANNING CO~}!MISSION RECORDING SECRETARY -8-