HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 01-08-73MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: January 8, 1973
TIME: 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street
PRESENT: Dombrow, Hare, Larnard, McHarris, Sharp
ABSENT: None
INDEX PAGE
Amendment
Off-Street Parking ..........................
OLD BUSINESS
V-72-285 - United California Bank ................
NEW BUS~NESS
Final Map of Tract No. 7943 - Villa Vallerto .....
CORRESPONDENCE
County Tentative Map of Tract No. 6206 ...........
Invitation from Southern Calif. Planning Congress.
Chamber of Commerce request for representation
on Beautification Awards Committee ..........
STAFF CONCERNS .......................................
COMMISSION CONCERNS ..................................
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION ...............................
ADJOURNMENT ..........................................
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR
MEETING OF DECEMBER 11, 1972
PUBLIC HEARINGS
V-72-286 ~ First National Bank of Orange County .. 1-2
ZC-73-1 - Harriet O. Enderle ..................... 2-3
UP-73-1 - Villa Vallerto ......................... 3-4
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF TilE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 8, 1973
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was
held on the 8th day of January, 1973, at the hour of 7:30 p.m., of
said day in the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street, Tustin,
California.
Prior to the start of the meeting, Mr. Fleagle announced the appoint-
ment of the three new Commissioners, Cass Hare, George McHarris, and
Richard Dombrow. Chairman Sharp welcomed them to the Commission.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Larnard.
The Invocation was given by Commissioner Hare.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Others
Present:
Dombrow, Hare, Larnard, McHarris, and Sharp
None
James G. Rourke, City Attorney, R. Kenneth Fleagle, Ass't.
City Administrator-Comm. Dev. Director, Nancy Lawton,
Planning Commission Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OF REGULAR MEETING
DECemBER 11~ 1972
PUBLIC HEARINGS
V-72-286 - First National Bank of Orange County - to authorize a
free-standing sign in a commercial complex identifying
the First National Bank.
Location:
Site is located westerly of the westerly corner of Wal-
nut St~-eet and Red Hill Avenue further known as the
Alpha Beta Shopping Center.
Mr. Flea~le advised that this item was considered at the Commission's
meeting of December 11, 1972, however, was readverti~ed for public
hearing at this time due to a defective notice. He stated that if
such a sign is approved, the size and height should be limited to that
of the service station at the north end of this shopping center, and
the illumination be.limited to the hours of bank operation.
Commissioner Dombrow asked if the Sign Ordinance was in existence at
the time the bank was built, and was advised by Mr. Fleagle that it was.
Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:42 p.m.
G~ady Henry, manager of the First National Bank of Orange County, showed
pictures showing the visibility of the bank from a traffic standpoint.
He stated that when the shopping center was built, there was to be one
large sign which would advertise all of the tenants. However, only one
sign ended up being there - which was Alpha Beta's
Mr. Henry felt that as the bank is a separate building from the shopping
center, they should be entitled to this sign, as the bank needs a sign
badly, due to bad visibility, especially from the South.
Bob Hill, of the Goodyear Tire Store in the same shopping complex, sta~ed
that the sign requested is very discreet and matches the tone and de-
sign of the City. In response to questioning from Commissioner ~har~,
Mr. Hill felt that the shopping center is not properly identified,
with Alpha Beta being the detracting element. He stated that several
of the tenants are unidentified.
Chairman Sharp closed the public portion of the hearing at 7:52 p.m.
~0r discussion among the Commissioners.
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It was the consensus of opini?n of the Commissioners that a hard-
ship did exist; however, if i'~ :~xists for the bank, then it would also
exist for many of the other tenants, and if one sign i~ approved, then
others may follow the same trend.
Commissioner Larnard feels that this is a self-imposed hardship by the
~eople in the shopping center.
Chairman Sharp questioned as to whether or not something could be
arranged with the principle operator of the shopping complex as re-
spects other tenants getting the signing they need. Mr. Flea~le
stated that there is no way the city can force Alpha Beta to permit
other tenants to use their sign, as the Sign Ordinance does not pro-
hibit or preclude other tenants.
Commissioner Hare felt there was a definite hardship, and that this
Variance request is in order. He moved for adoption of this Variance
subject to the conditions and recommendations of Staff, with a Resolu-
tion to be prepared.
This motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioner Larnard moved for denial of Variance 72-286; seconded by
Co~mi~oner Dombrow.
MOTION CARRIED:
Noes: Hare.
4-1. Ayes:
Dombrow, Larnard, McHarris, and Sharp.
Mr. Fleagle informed the applicant that the action of the Planning Com-
~i~sioh is final unless an appeal is filed with the City Clerk within
five days from tonight's action.
Commissioner Dombrow asked if Staff could write to Alpha Beta asking
them if they would be willing to change their signing, and was advised
by Mr. Fleagle that they would be contacted_and also the property owner
to see if something could be worked out.
2. ZC-73-1 -
Harriet O. Enderle (Agents-Carpenter and Hamer) - to
permit a zone change from R-1 to the Professional Dis-
trict.
Location:
Site is located westerly of Yorba, starting at a point
727' south of 17th Street.
Mr. Flea~le summarized Staff report, advising that the purpose of this
zone change would be to authorize the construction of professional office
buildings on the west side of Yorba Street. To date, precise building
plans have not been submitted. Staff feels the disadvantages of the
proposal are:
Requirement to bring General Plan and Zoning Classification
into conformance.
Dispersion of professional offices from the major east-west
arteries of First Street, Irvine Boulevard, and 17th Street,
as now projected by the General Plan.
other areas presently zoned for "Pr" use are now vacant and
available for development.
Responding to questioning from Commissioner Dombrow, Mr. Fleaqle stated
that 17th & Yorba is the highest impact area as respects traffic and
accidents, due to the off-ramp of the Newport Freeway.
Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 8:21 p.m.
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Norma__n H. Smedegaard, of Rutan & Tucker, attorney for the applicant,
stated that his clients feel this zone change would be beneficial to
the city £u~ two ~uns: ~) ~re wouid De no ~£a~ic proD±em w~tn
professional buildings, compared to apartments or residences, and,
2) no problems with children and schools. He advised that any final
development plans will be to the approval of the Commission.
Jack DeVries, 17531 Jacaranda, was opposed tc this zone change, as he
felt professional buildings would cause a major traffic problem and
also a parking problem.
Gen. Ralph Yeaman, 14242 Acacia, speaking for the Enderle Gardens
Association, expressed the same concerns of Mr. DeVries. He also felt
there should be a plot plan showing parking, landscaping, etc.
Mr. Smedegaard advised that the Traffic Engineer stated there would
not be a traffic problem, and that they would be bringing in the neces-
sary plot plans, etc.
Public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:52 p.m. for discussion
among the Commissioners.
Commissioner Dombrow felt that "Pr" was the most logical zoning for
this land, but did feel that the biggest problem would be the traffic.
Commissioner McHarris asked Staff what the past procedures had been as
respects the requirement of plans with zone changes. Mr. Fleagle re-
sponded that with "PC", the plans are required with the zone change,
but with "Pr", the plans are shown after the zone change has been
established.
Chairman Sharp asked if the Commission could require the development
plans and schematic plans along with the zone change application, with
Mr. Fleagle advising that any action could ~ held up pending the sub-
mittal of plans. Mr. Shard favored this approach, feeling that they
should take as mucl~ a loo~"as possible at the plans before changing
the zoning.
Commissioner Larnard moved to continue this item as an open hearing to
February 12, 1973, to allow applicant time to submit plans, and any
legal documents approved by the City Attorney; seconded by Commissioner
Hare.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
UP-73-1 - Villa Vallerto - to permit conversion of apartments to
condominiums in an R-3 zone, for 38 dwelling units.
Location:
Site is located on the south side of Mitchell Street
between Red Hill Avenue and Newport Avenue, and is
further known as 1192 Mitchell Avenue~ Tustino
Mr. Fleagle stated that the subject property was developed in 1969 as
a condominium, but occupied as apartments to the present date. In
July, 1972, Ordinance No. 553 was adopted by the City Council authoriz-
ing a condominium in R-3 District, subject to a Use Permit.
Mr. Fle~g.~e stated that the Development Preview Commission recommende
that add~tfonal landscaping be required as well as provision for main
tenance and control of open space. Also, the Fire Department recommends
that a condition of approval include ~he installation of a 6" fire line
with hydrants.
Chairman S_~harp opened the public portion of the hearing at 9:20 p.m.
Royal West, of Associated Planners and Engineers, would like to meet
~ith the Fire Marshal regarding t~,e 6': fire main. He thinks the one
there is already 6", instead of ~"~ b~ would like this to be confirmed.
If it is not 6", they will take care .0f it. As respects th~ landscap-
ing, the owner.'.~ are preparing a ];~cap~.ng plan which will screen off
the blank look on ~he southeast
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P~blic portion of the hear~.n~"~as closed at 9:26 p.m., for discussion
among the Commissioners. ~
Commissioner Larnard moved for approval of UP-73-1, by adoption of
Resolution No. 1310; seconded by Commissioner Hare.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
Amendment to Ordinance No. 157, the Zoning .Ordinance, as amended
by Ordinance No. 175, to amend section 5.29 (Planned Development
District) - Off-Street Parking.
Mr. Fleagle advised that this section of the Ordinance should now read:
(13) Off-Street Parking
Total parking shall be 2 spaces per unit, with at least one
covered space per unit.
He stated that the purpose of the Planhed Development District is to
provide most of the desirable residential characteristics found in
single-family residence areas, subject to the review of precise devel-
opment plans. Development criteria in this District now requires a
total of 1-1/2 parking spaces per unit, with at least one covered
space per unit.
Commissioner Dombrow wished to know what constituted a covered space,
and was advised by Mr. Fleagle that a covered space is to be covered on
three sides...does not have to be completely enclosed, and includes a
carport within the definition.
Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 9:36 p.m.,
~nd seeing or hearing no one for or against the issue, closed the
public portion of the hearing at 9:37 p.m.
Commissioner Dombrow was concerned that this two space minimum was not
enough in some instances, and wondered if this was adequate.
Mr. Fleagle stated that any more than this amount would have to be jus-
~ifi~d.
Commissioner Larnard moved for approval of this amendment to the City
Co~nc~, by adoption of Resolution No. 1311; seconded by Commissioner
Dombrow.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
OLD BUSINESS
V-72-285 - United California Bank - to authorize a free-standing
sign in a commercial complex identifying the United
California Bank.
Location:
Site is located on the southwesterly side of Irvine
Boulevard, easterly of Newport, further known as the
Tustin Heights Shopping Center.
Mr. Flealle advised that this application was heard at a public hearing
on December 11, 1972, and the hearing was closed at that time with it
being continued to this date for further consideration by the Commission.
He showed a video tape of the area in question to assist in evaluation
Of the need.
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hers of the audience.
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Gary IIall, 19150 Friar, Reseda, gave background information on this
item for the benefit of the Commission, from the time the bank was
built.
Most of the Commissioners felt that this situation was similar to the
item on the First National Bank, in that this was a self-imposed hard-
ship
Commissioner Larnard moved for denial of this Variance; seconded by
Commissioner McHarris.
MOTION CARRIED:
Noes: Hare.
4-1. Ayes:
Dombrow, Larnard, McHarris and Sharp.
M_r_. ~ea~l.~ informed the applicant of their right to appeal this matter
to the City Council, by filing a letter of appeal to the City Clerk
within 5 working days of this meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Final Map of Tract No. 7943 - Villa Vallerto - 1192 Mitchell
Mr. Fleagle stated that the Tentative Map of Tract No. 7943 was approved
on July 24, 1972, subject to rezoning action. Subsequently, the Zoning
Ordinance has been amended to permit a condominium in the R-3 District,
subject to a Use Permit.
Commissioner Larnard moved for approval of Final Tract Map No. 7943;
seconded by Commissioner Dombrow.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
CORRESPONDENCE
1. Orange County Tentative Map of Tract No. 6206
Mr. Fl.~agle showed a copy of this map to the Commissioners, which they
~isc~ssed briefly.
Commissioner Larnard moved that Sbaff be directed to report to the
County that the Commission took.{~exception to County Tentative Map
of Tract No. 6206; seconded by Commissioner Dombrow.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
2. Invitation from Southern California Planning Congress
Mr. Fleagle informed the Commissioners that each month there is a meet-
ing o2 The--above organization, and would be notifying them accordingly.
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Request from Chamber of Commerce for appointment of Planning
Commission representative to Chamber of Commerce Beautification
Awards Committee
Bruce Snyder of the Chamber of Commerce advised that quarterly, a lis
is Submitted of newly developed buildings in the City, and the Chambe.
presentg a plague to the building they feel is the most beautiful.
Commissioner Larnard moved for Commissioner McHarris representing the
Commission; suconded by Commissioner Hare.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
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STAFF CONCERNS
Mr. Fleagle requested that after the meeting, the Commission adjourn
to a brief workshop to familiarize the new Commissioners with the
General Plan.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
The new Commissioners expressed their pleasure in being members of
the CommisSion, stating their desire in being of benefit to the City.
Chairman Sharp was concerned about the directional sign and off-street
parking of the new Santiago Bank.
Chairman Sharp and Commissioner Larnard welcomed the new Commissioners.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - none
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Larnard moved for adjournment at 10:37 p.m., to a workshop
session; seconded by Commissioner McHarr'is.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING CO~I'SSION
PLANNING~COMMISS f0N RECORDING
SECRETARY