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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 12-11-72MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION DATE: December 11, 1972 TIME: 7:30 p.m. PLACE: Council Chambers, 275 South PRESENT: Dukleth, Edelstein,.Sharp ABSENT: Larnard "C" Street INDEX PAGE ROLL CALL ............................................. 1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF November 27, 1972 .................... 1 PUBLIC HEARINGS UP-72-401 - Ethel F. Doty .......................... 1-2 Santiago Bank ........................... 2-3 First National Bank of Orange County .... 3-4 United California Bank .................. 4-5 - JoJo's Restaurant ...................... 5 V-72-287 - V-72-286 - V-72-285 - UP-72-400 OLD BUSINESS PM-72-58 - Herbert Adoption of Resolution Adoption of Resolution NEW BUSINESS Zarember ........................ .6 No. 1309 .................... 6 No. 1304 .................... 6 Pending Item ....................................... 6 CORRESPONDENCE County Tentative Tract Map No. 8108 ................ 6-7 COMMISSION CONCERNS ................................... 7 AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION ................................ 7 ADJOURNMENT ........................................... 7 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING CITY OF TUSTIN PI~NNING COMMISSION DECEMBER 11, 1972 The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was held on the llth day of December, 1972, at the hour of 7:30 p.m. of said day in the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street, Tustin, California. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Dukleth. The Invocation was given by Commissioner Edelstein. ROLL CALL: Present: Absent: Others Present: Dukleth, Edelstein, Sharp Larnard James G. Rourke, City Attorney R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City Administrator- Community Development Director Mary Ann Chamberlain, Planning Commission Recording Sec. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER 27, 1972 PUBLIC HEARINGS UP-72-401 - Ethel F. Doty - to authorize the development of an apartment complex in accordance with a precise development plan as provided for in the Planned Development District, pursuant to PZ-70-122 and the master plan approved by UP-72-379. Location: Site is generally located approximately 782 feet south of the centerline of 17th Street and approxi- mately 1212 feet easterly of the centerline of Yorba Street. Mr. Fleagle summarized the Staff report and stated that development standards applicable to this property include: Height limitation of one story structures within 100 feet of the southerly property line adjacent to any property zoned R-1 or E-4. e Density standard not to exceed one unit for each 2000 square feet of land area (21 units per acre). Installation of lighting directed away from adjacent residential developments. e Parking accommodatio~at a ratio of 2:1 within 250 feet of units served. A 6'8" perimeter wall to be constructed prior to the issuance of a permit for any other structure. Perimeter landscaping to provide screening for adjacent residential developments. 7. Maximum land coverage of 50%. 8. Coordination and approval of street system. 9. i[nterior lot orientation. PC Min'~.tes December 11, 1972 Page two Commissioner Edelstein questioned the status of Doty Lane, ~est of this property. Mr. Fleagle r~pc£ted that the Enderle portion has been dedicated t~ the City but has not been improved. - Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:40. John Wells, AIA, 4500 Campus Drive, Newport Beach, architect for the project stated he would answer any questions the Commissioners might have pertaining to this project. Commissioner Edelstein felt that the major concern of this project ~s an access way from either Prospect or Yorba. Mr. Wells stated that they don't know wheth~it will come in from Prospect or Yorba. That decision will come from the City Engineer. However, they are agreeable to all the conditions listed in Res- olution No. 1308. Commissioner Dukleth questioned Mr. Wells if there would be a 15' setback for the rear apartments. Mr. Wells stated there would be but they have not yet determined where the patios will be located. He further stated that this will be an entirely adult community. 50% of the units are one bedroom and 50% are two bedrooms with an approximate total occupancy of 200 people. The public portion of the hearing was clsoed at 7:45. Commissioner Dukleth questioned Staff as to whether the flood control channel runs along the southern perimeter of this property. Mr. Fleagle stated that it does and there will be a wall along the---entire ~outhern boundary which will provide even more separation from the adjoining R-1 District to the south. Chairman Sharp questioned Mr. Fleagle if there are enough parking spaces for this project. Mr. Fleagle answered that by code they would be required to have 150 spaces. The pre-zoning ordinance specified a 2:1 ratio. There are 197 spaces provided which means they are actually 3 spaces short of the pre-zoning ordinance ratio but the design is much better in the manner it is presented, whereby additional area is landscaped, and by character of development, the 197 parking spaces are actually in excess for the needs of the project. Chairman Sharp asked if they were guaranteed access to one of the ~jor streets. Mr. Flea~le stated that no building permit will be issued until the street plan is certain. Commissioner Edelstein moved to adopt Resolution No. 1308, seconded by Commissioner Dukleth. MOTION CARRIED: 3-0. V-72-287 - Santiago Bank - for the purpose of authorizing a free- standing directional sign exceeding the height and size permitted by code. Location: West side of Fashion Lane ±300' northerly of the centerline of First Street. Mr. Fleagle reported that convenience signs which facilitate traffic ~low and safety are authorized by Code, up to six square feet. The proposed sign is the sign presently in use at the First and E1 Camino Real site. Staff feels that there is no justification for a sign of this size which could have an impact on future signing on Fashion Lane. Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:55 p.m. -2- Page three PC Minutes December 11, 1972 Bill Becker, Custom Signs, 160 Centennial Way, Tustin, presented renderings and photographs of the sign to the Commissioners for their ~-~vicw Mr Eeckcr ~tated that .... u~s vari-ncc=~ request ._:- nc.~ a wkim or favor, and is in 100% true spirit of public service. This sign would cause traffic to flow quickly and safely off Fashion Lane into the drive-in lanes. On the opening day there were two minor collisions because of uncertainty in the parking lots. They also see congestion on First Street trying to find the drive-in windows off Fashion Lane. Commissioner Edelstein questioned what size sign is actually needed? Perhaps it would be more important to have a sign on First Street rather than Fashion Lane. Mr. Becker explained that they do have other signs under code, one exit, one parking and one for drive-in. Commissioner Edelstein suggested reducing the size of the particular sign in question because it is larger than the free-standing sign in the front of the bank. Mr. Wakeman, Vice President, Santiago Bank, said the bank customers have been involved in collisions and traffic tie-ups since the bank opened its doors at the new location. After the upstairs is finished the bank will have tenants which will have customers and another 40 or so cars. The bank doesn't, intend to use the front identification sign for a drive-in sign. Public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:12 p.m. Chairman Sharp stated that he felt that variances should only be used in an extreme hardship and felt that it was a' little late now to straighten out traffic patterns and street entrances. Commissioner Dukleth agreed with Sharp and moved to deny this var- iance, seconded by Chairman Sharp. Con'm~issioner Edels;-ein felt that some sort of v~'iance shoul~ be made, something more reasonable. MOTION CARRIED: 2-1 Ayes: Dukleth, Sharp Noes: Edelstein 0 V-72-286 - First National Bank of Orange County - to authorize a free-standing sign in a commercial complex ident- ifying the First National Bank. Location: Site is located westerly of the westerly corner of Walnut Street and Red Hill Avenue further known as the Alpha Beta Shopping Center. Mr. Fleagle reviewed the report and stated that Alpha Beta, owner of the center will not authorize the First National.Bank or any other businesses in the complex to use the complex identification sign. The sign ordinance identifies the name of a complex of comm- ercial or industrial businesses within the complex. Only one complex identification sign is authorized, with the individual tenants auth- orized wall signs equivalent to two square feet of sign area per sq. ft. of building frontage. Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 8:30 p.m. Bill Becker, Custom Signs, 160 Centennial Way, Tustin, presented photos and renderings to the Commission to show that the bank is about 90% obscured northbound and partly obscured southbound. He further stated that southbound, the signing is inadeg,late looking towards the sun and is mostly hidden by trees and shrubs. The bank is not enjoying the business that it should and Mr. Becker attributed this to lack of identification. G__r_a_~.]_y Henry, Manager, First National Bank of Orange County, feels that it is a nece.~sity that he l~ave adequate signing and f.?.]t that he was entitled to it because he needs it. -3- PC Minutes December 11, 1972 Page four Chairman Sharp questioned Mr. Henry as to how a sign could help his bank business. Mr. Henry responded that there is a large transient trade of at least 2000 apartment owners in his area and they have nothing to identify with his bank because they don't know that it's in the Alpha Beta Center. The public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:45 p.m. Chairman Sharp questioned Staff if any of the Tustin Meadows' residents were notified of the public hearing. After checking the property owner list supplied by Chicago Title, it was discovered that the 300' radius had been taken from the Alpha Beta Store rather than the Bank Site. Chairman Sharp moved to continue the hearing to the January 8, 1973 meeting due to improper notice; seconded by Commissioner Dukleth. MOTION CARRIED: 3-0 V-72-285 - United California Bank - to authorize a free-standing sign in a commercial complex identifying the United California Bank. Location: Site is located on the southwesterly side of Irvine Boulevard, easterly of Newport, further known as the Tustin Heights Shopping Center. Mr. ~leagle summarized the Staff report and stated that the Development Preview Commission concurred with Staff that a variance is unwarranted for the directional sign and consideration should be given to a ground based sign located in the planter ar~east of the bank structure. Since the complex was developed prior to the Sign Ordinance of the City of Tustin being applicable, existing signing for the complex. is in a non-conforming status. Commissioner Edelstein suggested that since there was so much sim- ilarit~ between this variance and the one previous to this item, this variance should be continued to the January 8, 1973 meeting so it could be discussed concurrently with V-72-286. Chairman Sharp stated that they should proceed with the hearing to determine if they were similar. Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 9:00 p.m. Mr. Steven Torell, Triple "A" Signs, North Hollywood, sign represen- tative of UCB, said he came and studied the Tustin area bank signs and now has a sign proposal smaller than any of the other banks in the area. Mr. Don Olson, branch manager of UCB stated that the purpose of this variance is to provide some kind of identification. Recent studies that they had conducted showed that insufficient signing has been the major cause as to why they had experienced such a small amount of growth in the 5 years they have been in Tustin. Mr. Olson compared his situation with that of Mr. Henry's and commented that they are not allowed to get on the identification sign of the Tustin Heights Complex. Chairman Sharp complimented UCB for all the landscape improvements that they had accomplished in the past two years. The public portion of the hearing was closed at 9:15 p.m. -4- PC Minutes December 11, 1972 Page five Commissioner Dukleth observed that the propOSed identification si~n extends two feet over the property line and wanted to know if the City would b~ liubi= for fuLu~ ~,~id~n~s. Auno',ney l~ourke state~ that this was allowed in the City Code. Commissioner Edelstein moved to continue this application to the January 8, 1973 meeting as a closed hearing because of the similarity . between this variance and the variance of the First National Bank of Orange County; seconded by Commissioner D~{leth. MOT I ON CARRI ED: 3- 0 Se UP-72-400 - JoJo's Restaurant - the development of a restaurant in the Planned Community (Commercial) District, accommodating 120 patrons with 53 parking stalls. Location: North side of 17th Street, east of Grovesite Drive, (a private street). Mr. Flea9le summarized the Staff report with a recommendation that signing for the restaurant be restricted to the southerly property exposure to consist of a wall or ground based sign and directional signing as approved by the Development Preview Commission. Mr. Fleg.gl~ informed the Commission that he was shown models of other JoJo's Restaurants and this type of signing would be in character with. 17th Street signing, as well as their other restaurants. Chairman Sharp opened the public portion of the hearing at 9:25 p.m. Mr. Tom Lenhart, 13881 Dall Lane, President, Foothill Homeowners AsSociation, claimed that the restaurant would be contrary to the Tustin Area General Plan and would lead to the deterioration of 17th Street. Mr. Fleagle stated that the owner'of the*property, Clark Bonner was ~nable to be present at the meeting. Co~missioner Edelstein questioned Staff as to the conformance of this application to that of the Shopping Ce~r proposed on 17th Street. Mr. Fleagle explained that the prezone prior to annexation made any use subject to a public hearing and issuance of a use permit. This use does exclude take-out restaurants and service stations but not sit-dowm restaurants and professional buildings. Commissioner Edelstein moved to deny. Use Permit 72-400. died for lack of a second. This motion Chairman Sharp questioned Mr. Lenhart if he had any kind of deve- lopment fn' mind and Mr. Lent-art answered he just wants to stop the commercial deve'lopment on 17th Street. Mr. James Kent, Caldwell and Ray, 560 W. First Street, Tustin, arch- itect for Mr. Bonner, stated that he lives and works in Tustin and feels there is a need for a restaurant of this type. He stated it would be a low-profile building and this site is good for a restaurant. Commissioner Dukleth concurred with Mr. Kent on his views and moved to approve Resolution No. 1307 which grants approval of use permit 72-400, seconded by Chairman Sharp. Chairman Sharp stated that he has seen what this firm does in a way of a restaurant. They provide good service, quality and appearance. This will be a good development for 17th Street and is in keeping with the Tustin General Plan, as amended. MOTION CARRIED: 2-1 Ayes: Noes: Dukleth, Sharp Edelstein OLD BUSINESS PC Minutes December 11, 1972 Page six 1. Parcel Map 72-58 - Herbert Zarember Mr. Flea~le summarized the staff report advising that the reason for this Parcel Map is to create two parcels, in order to permit the sale of Parcel #2. This item was continued from the previous meeting in order that Staff might furnish the Commission with information pertinent to the zone change action. Mr. Flea~le presented the minutes of the Planning Commission hearing held on March 9, 1970, the minutes of City Council of April 6, 1970, and April 20, 1970, and the letter of intent from Mr. Zarember of April 9, 1970. Mr. Fleagle explained that the zone change was questioned by the City Council at the time of placing it in the Planned Community zone. It was approved reluctantly by the City Council on the basis of Mr. Zarember's intent that the property be developed concurrently or in conjunction with the southerly property. Staff suggested that the proposed parcel map division be denied and any subsequent submittal be conditioned upon a zone change action and findings that the Commission may deem to be appropriate. Chairman Sharp commented that unless we go the route suggested by Staff, the PC-R-3 zoning will remain on both pieces and the owner on one parcel cannot enter into development without the other owner. Chairman Sharp further stated that for two years they have tried to develop with the property owner to the south and he feels now they should consider a zone change. Commissioner Edelstein moved to adopt Resolution No. 1306 which denies the lot split, seconded by Commissioner Dukleth. MOTION CARRIED: 3-0. 2. Adoption of Resolution No. 1309 for Tentative Tract Map No. 7979. (U.S. Development Corporation). Commissioner Edelstein moved for adoption of Resolution No. 1309, seconded by Commissioner Dukleth. MOTION CARRIED: 3-0 Adoption of Resolution No. 1304 - Specific Plan of Bicycle Trails and Ways. Commissioner Edelstein moved for adoption of Resolution 1304, seconded by CommiSsioner Dukleth. MOTION CARRIED: 3-0 NEW BUSINESS Pending Item 1. Zone Change for Harriet 0. Enderle Location: west side of Yorba, south of 17th Street CORRESPONDENCE 1. County Tentative Tract Map No. 8108 Mr. Fleagle informed the Commissioners that the County Planning m~ .t~ va ..... .'.:ap Dcpartr,',cnt rcquesucd confronts~=~ .......... ~,~ uc .-.~ -.i m ...... No. 8108 to be submitted by December 15, 1972. The information pre- sented was not sufficient to make specific recommendations as related to zoning and character of development. -6- PC Minutes December 11, 1972 Page seven Mr. Milton Curtis, former Commissioner, requested that he be heard from the floor. Mr. Curtis informed the Commissioners that an article was publi=i~=d i~, L21t. paper ~yi~,9 th,,t thC C~u~Ly has a 90 day moratorium on such building projects and this item would probably not be decided upon at this time. He also stated that this tract is not in conformance with the Tustin General Plan. Commissioner Dukleth moved to adopt a minute order approving the letter as drafted by Staff to be forwarded to the County Planning Commission, seconded by Commissioner Edelstein. MOTION CARRIED: 3-0 COM~{ISSION CONCERNS - None AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - None ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Dukleth moved for adjournment at 10:45 p.m., seconded by Commissioner Edelstein. MOTION CARRIED: 3-0 CHAIRMAN, PLANNING CO~LMISSION ~ PLANNING~COb~4ISSION RECORDING SECRETARY