HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 11-13-72MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: November 13, 1972
TIME: 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street
PRESENT: ~ Curtis, Dukleth, Edelstein, Larnard, Sharp
ABSENT: None
INDEX PAGE
ROLL CALL ................................................. 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR
MEETING OF October 24 , 1972 ........................ 1
PUBLIC HEARINGS
UP-72-396
PZ-72-137
PZ-72-138
- Clyde E. Stockdale,
- Planning Commission
- Planning Commission
for Best Years Inc.
OLD BUSINESS
Final Tract Map
NEW BUSINESS
PM-72-56 -
PM-72-57 -
No.
et al ................ 1-2
Initiated .............. 2-3
Initiated
...................... 3-4
7954 ............................... 4-5
Clyde E. Stockdale, et al .................. 5
Sunset Builders ............................. 5-6
Final Tract Map No. 8033 ............................... 6
Pending Items .......................................... 6
CORRESPONDENCE
County Use Permit UP-3362 6-7
STAFF CONCERNS
Streetscapes ............................................ 7
COMMISSION CONCERNS ....................................... 7
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION ..................................... 7
ADJOURNmeNT ............................................... 7-8
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF TIIE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
NO'v~i,ibE~ 13, i'~72
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was
held on the 13th day of November, 1972, at the hour of 7:30 p.m. of
Souun Street, ,
said day in the Council Chambers, 275 ~' "C" Tustin
California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Larnard.
The Invocation was given by Commissioner Curtis.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Others
Present:
Curtis, Dukleth, Edelstein, Larnard, Sharp.
None
James G. Rourke, City Attorney
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City Administrator-
Community Development Director
Pat Brown, Assistant Planning Director
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Planning Commission Recording Sec.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OF REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 24, 1972
PUBLIC HEARINGS
UP-72-396 -. Clyde E. Stockdale, et al. - to establish as a
conforming use an existing nursery school (Tustin's
Kiddie Kollege).
Location:
Site has a frontage of approximately 150' on the
west side of Yorba, and is located approximately
200' south of the centerl~ne of Irvine Boulevard.
Mr. Brown summarized the staff report and explained that the present
Use Permit request was initiated at the instigation of Staff in order
to legally clarify the status of this facility. Previous applications
were technically in the form of Use Variances which are no longer per-
mitted under the Government Code, State Planning and Zoning Law. A
further impetus to the filing of this present action was the granting
by the Planning Commission of a temporary Use Permit to allow two
mobile classroom units on this property for a one year period (UP-72-39
at their October 9, 1972 meeting. Conditions of that action were:
1. The filing of a new Use Permit for the total property.
2. The filing of a parcel map.
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Posting a bond for the remaining walls and street improvements,
etc.
Submission of a master concept plan to'the Development Preview
Commission for their review and approval.
Condition 1 above is being met by this present filing. The applica
have also filed a parcel map encompassing the existin9 and the ap-
proximate future expansion area of the school site, which appears
under the New Business section of this agenda. The applicants have
not as yet posted a bond for the remaining walls required originally
around the perimeter of the site; however, 'they do have an e::Lsting
bond in effect for the street improvements. The applicants are also
in the process of preparing a master concept plan for the total site
which will be presented to the DPC for final review and approw~l,
relative to the parking requircmonts, circulation, and landscaping.
P. C. 'I2inutcs
November 3.3, 1972
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The Development Preview Co~a.,[sslon in giving preliminary review
to this matter at their November 1, 1972 meeting, indicated there
were some concerns, primari].y related to the front parking and land-
scaped areas.
If this Use Permit is granted it should be subject to the following
conditions:
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Final compliance with all those conditions established by
Resolution No. 1292 (UP-72-393).
That any future expansion of this facility, either structurally
or in the number of students, will require full compliance
with all applicable State, County, and City regulations and
requirements.
That once final development plans have been consummated, in
accordance with development standards as prescribed by the
DPC, a 6'8" block wall shall be erected at the north, south,
and west property lines of the nursery school site.
Commissioner Sharp questioned Staff whether this use permit has to do
with the extension of the trailers. Mr. Fleagle answered no, this
use permit does not supercede Use Permit 72-39~, but is in full com-
pliance with Use Permit 72-393.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:42.
Seeing and hearing no one for or against the issue, closed the
public portion of the hearing at 7:43 p.m.
Commissioner Sharp moved to adopt Resolution 1296, seconded by
Commissioner Larnard.
Commissioner Sharp commented on the letter from the Fire Department
%-~at was noted in the Fire Department Report. Mr. Flea,lc stated that
the conditions listed in that letter are mandated by State Law and
are not applicable to the conditions of approval of this use permit.
Con~issioner Dukleth asked about the parking requirement. Mr. Brown
~'tated that if additional parking is needed at a later date, the
back lot behind the Kiddie Kollege can be utilized.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0.
PZ-72-137 - Planning Commission Initiated - a prezone change
from the Orange County R-4 District to the City of
Tustin PC R-3 (1900) District, subject to annexation
to the City.
Location:
Site, consisting of approximately 4.4 acres of land,
has a frontage of approximately 230' on the north-
easterly side of Mitchell Avenue and is located
approximately 1092' southeasterly of the centerline
of Red Hill Avenue. .
Mr. Fleagle summarized the report and commented that the only con-
dit~on of special note is the requirement for two parking spaces per
unit.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:47 p.m.
Gared Smith, 2043 Westcliff, Newport Beach, Architect for Mr. Daly,
stated that they would have no objection to furnishing two to one
parking if it becomes necessary for some future usage or time. Mr.
Smith said they have taken parking counts at 7 a.m. and 9 p.m. and
fouled ~I~ ~v~age ~ki~ to b~ 1.56 ~utos pur unit. iie commented
that since parking takes away green area, they prefer to remain at
the 1% parking places to each unit rather than creating parking which
is unnecessary.
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Novc~3er 13, 1973
Page three
Commissioner Larnard moved to adopt Resolution No. ].298 recommending
approval to the C'i-t-~ Council, seconded by Commissioner Ed~:lstein.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0.
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PZ-72-138 - Planning Commission Initiated on behalf of "Best
Years".
Location:
Subject parcel has a frontaw3 of approximately 315'
on the north side of Irvine Boulevard and lies be-
tween the Southern Pacific Railroad right-of-way and
the Orange County Flood Control Channel.
Mr. Fleagle summarized the Staff report and referred to the letter
~eceived from Mr. Robert Kramer, Best Years, Inc., on October 13, 1972,
concurring with the following changes:
Maintain two-story height limit on northerly 50' abutting
E-4 property.
Minimum of 1250 sq. ft. of land per apartment unit excluding
subterranean garage.
Maximum 35' - three-story height limit for balance of pro-
perty used for apartment dwellings.
Commissioner Sharp pointed out that there was parking indicated be-
neath these structures, therefore he felt that a height limitation
was indicated to keep the profile down to 35'. Mr. Fleagle commented
that he felt there was no purpose to be served by limiting the height
on the central portion of the project but those units on the northerly
boundary should be limited to a two-story height°
Commissioner Edelstein questioned the original density of the apart-
m~nts. ~4r. Flea~!e explained that the original plans showed the
apartment ~ensity at 46 dwelling units per gross acre and now the
density shows 34 dwelling units per gross ~Creo
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 8:05 p.m.
Robert Kramer, Executive Vice President, Best Years Inc., spoke in
favor of the proposal explaining the planned exclusiveness of the
project.
Mr. A. Z. Greely, 14621 Clarissa Lane, spoke against the project
pertaining to the three-story concept, the density and the difference
in structural lay-out compared with original plans. Although he does
· feel that this is a worthwhile project on a distressed piece of
property.
J. R. Brewer, 14736 Holt, who owns two pieces of property on Holt
next to a private drive, said he was in favor of the development
and thinks that anything would be an improvement. Mr. Greely then
asked Mr. Brewer if these two pieces of property were "p~rt of the
deal" implying that th~ developer was purchasing Mr. Brewer's parcels.
Mr. Brewer replied that he did not know. '
Mr. Edwin Watne who resides next door to Greely said he too, would
l'ike to discuss the three-story vs. two-story proposition.
Mr. Caine of Richard Prior and Associates stated that the three-
story buildings would be 80' to 90' from the north property line.
They were agreeable to limiting tha northerly perimeter structures
to a two-story height. They would plant trees that would be 15' to
20' in height to produce complete privacy for the residents to the
north of the project on Clarissa Lane.
Mr. Greely stated that he does n'Dt object to the two-story buildings
on the north perimeter but was un~-.v the impression that they were
proposing three-story buildinqs ~.~r. the north perimeter.
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The public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:40 p.m.
Commissioner Edelstein moved to adopt resolution No. 1297,
recommending approval to the City Council of PZ-72-138, subject
to the following conditions:
a) Annexation to the City of Tustin.
b)
1) No residential structures to b~ located closer than
50 feet to adjacent residential property lines to the
north.
2) Height of all structures not to exceed three-stories;
nor 25 feet for those structures on the northerly pro-
ject boundary.
3) Density of any multiple-family residential portion to
be no greater than one dwelling unit per 1250 sq. ft.
(34 dwelling units per gross acre); designed and occupied
as proposed as an adult community.
4) Parking areas and traffic circulation patterns to be
approved by the City Engineer and Development Preview
Commission.
Commissioner Larnard seconded the motion.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
OLD BUSINESS
1. Final Map of Tract No. 7954 - Newport Shores Builders (Frank H.
.Ayres and Son Construction Company).
Location: Easterly of Tustin Meadows and southerly of Walnut Ave.
Mr. Fleagle summarized the Engineer's report and noted that since the
Commission voted to continue this matter on October 24, 1972, the
following actions have transpired.
The Ayres Company has revised their Final Map to make all
lots greater than 5445 sq. ft. in area.
The City Attorney has reviewed all letters submitted by the
Irvine Company concerning drainage, Walnut dedication and
improvement, Jamboree landscaping and maintenance, and park
dedication and improvements.
On November 6th, the Council agreed to City maintenance of
the Walnut Avenue parkway.
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The Ayres Company has agreed to post a cash bond in the
amount of the estimated cost of the Sycamore Avenue railroad
crossing. This will keep all option open and permit the
Council to make the decision with regard to assuming the
liabilities of a private crossing. '
Mr. Fleagle stated that there are some unresolved problems which
are matters for the City Council. Monday, November 20, the City
Council has scheduled a workshop session prior to their regular
meeting. The Council has extended an invitation to the Planning
Commission to meet jointly at 7:00 p.m. to discuss those unresolved
matters.
Chairman Curtis inquired as to why the Bike Trail had been eliminated
from the final tract map. Mr. Fleagle explained that when the
neighborhood plan was adopted, the B~]~e Trail was not required to
be a part of this development. '~'he Conservaui~-O~el~
reation Element shows the Bike Trail along the southern perimeter
and the floor control channel to the west. This was the section that
was deleted as an improvement requirement.
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November 13, 1972
Page five
Commissioner Edelstein moved to continue this item until the City
Co~-cil workshop on November 20, 1972 at 7:00 p.m.; seconded by
Commissioner Larnard.
City Attorney, Jame~ Rourke told the Commission he still sees
several problems unresolved, including the water, bike trails,
and emergency access for Sycamore Avenue.
Mike Jager, representative of the Ayres Company, asked that the
map either be passed or denied. Mr. Rourke suggested that the
Planning Commission continue it to the November 20, 1972 meeting.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-1
Ayes:
Noes:
Edelstein, Sharp, Larnard, Dukleth
Curtis
NEW BUSINESS
1. PM-72-56 - Clyde E. Stockdale, et al.
Location: 14851 Yorba
Mr. Brown summarized the report and recommended that if the Commission
approves the Parcel Map, they should adopt a minute order to in-
clude the following conditions:
1. Completion of the previously required street improvements
on the Yorba Street frontage including the installation
of one street light.
2. Final approval by the City Engineer and recordation of the
Parcel Map°
Commissioner Larnard moved to adopt a minute order approving the
Parcel Map to include the above two conditions; seconded by
Commissioner Sharp.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
2. PM-72-57 - Sunset Builders
Location:
Northerly side of Bryan Avenue, approximately
430' to 640' east of Newport Avenue.
Mr. Brown summarized the report and recommended to the Commissioners
t~nat if they approve the Parcel Map they'should adopt a minute order
to include the following conditions:
Dedication of street right-of-way across both Parcel 1
and Parcel 2 in accordance with the Master Plan of
Arterial Highways.
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Construction of full street improvements on both parcels
including pavement, curb and gutter, sidewalk, street trees,
an~ one street light. The property is within the Tustin
Lighting District.
Final approval by the City Engineer and recordation of the
Parcel Map.
A representative of the property owDers, ~!r. and Mrs. O'Konski,
1091 Bryan, wanted to know if they had to ma-~ke the £~-I street
improvemcnts.
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November 13, 1972
Page six
Chairman Curtis inquired if the Escrow had been closed because us-
ually the street improvements are included before the Escrow is
closed. Mr. Fleagle stated that they will be required to make full
street improvements as a matter of City Council policy.
Commissioner Larnard moved to approve the Parcel Map subject to
Re three, c~nditions that were recommende'd; seconded by Commissioner
Dukleth.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
3. Final Map of Tract No. 8033 - U.S. Development Corporation
Location:
Bounded by the A.T.&S.F. Venta Spur tracks; the
easterly extension of Walnut Avenue, proposed Cherry-
wood Lane and a line approximately 1350 feet north-
erly of Walnut Avenue.
Mr. Fleagle brought to the attention of the Commissioners the
report from the City Engineer, the comments from the Community
Development Department and the letter from the Development Preview
Commission. Since there are still some unresolved problems with
this tentative map, Mr. Fleagle recommended that the Commission
continue this item until the November 20, 7 p.m. meeting with the
City Council.
Commissioner Larnard moved to continue this item to the November
20 meeting; seconded by Commissioner Sharp.
Mr. Warren James of the Irvine Company requested to the Commission
t~t either they pass or deny the map.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-1
Ayes:
Noes:
Dukleth, Edelstein, Larnard, Sharp
Curtis
Pending Items
1. UP-72-397 - Planning Commission Initiated (County Coroner Office)
Location:
Site fronts approximately 120 feet on the west side
of "B" Street, and is located adjacent to the Santa
Ana Freeway.
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Amendment to Orange County Master Plan of Highways - Planning
Commission Initiated.
3. UP-72-398 - Sports for Fun, Inc.
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Location: 301-305 E1 Camino Real
UP-72-399 - John Bell & Armand Pedicini
Location: S/W corner, 17th & Prospect.
5. Bicycle Trail
Tentative Tract Map 7979 - Laurelwood Twonhomes - U.S. Development
Corporation.
CORRE£PO~DE~CE
1. County Use Permit UP-3362
Location: South side of Main Street, ±270' west of Newport Ave.
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November 13, 1972
Page seven
Mr. Fleagle suggested that in view of th~ pending annexation of
this property to the City of Tustin, the Planning Commission
authorize the Chairman to sign and forward a letter of response
to the County.
Commissioner Larnard moved to have Chairman Curtis forward a letter
to the County recommending no action on this Use Permit; seconded
by Co~nissioner Edelstein.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
STAFF CONCERNS
1. Streetscapes
Mr. Brown reported that the question was brought to the Development
Preview Commission at their last meeting, and it was unanimously
decided that the City should adopt a streetscape plan for the
arterial system of the City. The Development Preview Commission
feels this would be of great value for their use at their mcetings
and also as a guide to developers. The Development Preview Commission
strongly recommends to the Planning Commission to direct Staff to
conduct a study to come up with ideas that could be adopted as City
Policy in conjunction with the Development Preview Commission's
activities.
Commissioner Sharp moved to prepare a minute order directiDg Staff
to prepare a streetscape plan for the City of Tustin, to be scheduled
for commission review at the 2nd meeting in January; seconded by
Co~missioner Edelstein.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
CO~5%IISS ION CONCERNS
Commissioner Sharp commented that he was appalled by the inadequacy
of the landscaping of the new Bank of America Building located
at First Street and Newport Avenue.
Mr. Brown stated that the Development Preview Commission made them
upgrade the landscape plans 3 or 4 times to arrive at the landscaping
they now have.
Chairman Curtis told the Commissioners that he had enjoyed serving
~ith them on the Planning Commission and that his term of office
would expire on November 15, 1972.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Bruce Snyder, manager of the Chamber of Commerce, stated that he
felt something should be done about the lack of landscaping at
Tustin Fire Station No. 2 since Red Hill Avenue was the most traveled
street in Tustin.
Mr. Fleagle answered that the City of Tustin is waitihg for the
Flood Control Storm Line to be installed prior to their completion
of the landscaping. Mr. Gene Uematsu, Chairman o~ the Development
Preview Commission and landscape architect has drawn extensive plans
which will be used for this project.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Larnard moved for adjournment at 10:00 p.m., seconded
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by Cov~niss,_'oner Sharp; to discuss the IJand Use Element of the
General Plan, then to a regular adjourned session, November 20,
1972 at 7 p.m.
CHAIRMAN, PLANNING CO~'~IISSION
PLANNING COMMISSION RECORDING SECRETARY