HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 10-09-72MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: October 9, 1972
TiME: 7 ~ ~
PIJ~CE: Council Chambers, .275 South "C" Street
PRESENT: Curtis, Sharp, Larnard, Dukleth
ABSENT: Edelstein
INDEX PAGE
ROLL CALL .................................................. 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 25, 1972 ......................... 1
PUBLIC HEARINGS
UP-72-394 -
UP-72-393 -
UP-72-395 -
Amendment to
respects
OLD BUSINESS - none
NEW BUSINESS
Assistance League of Tustin ............... 1-2
Clyde E. Stockdale, et al ................. 2-3-4
First Christian Church of Tustin .......... 4-5
Section 4.2 of Ordinance No. 157 as
Day Care Homes-Children ................... 5-6
PM-72-55 - First Southern Baptist Church .............. 6-7
Environmental Impact Statement - First Street,
Newport Freeway to Prospect ....................... 7
Pending Items .......................................... 7
CORRESPONDENCE
Letter from Orange County Action Committee for
the Physically Handicapped ........................ 7
STAFF CONCERNS ............................................. 8
COMMISSION CONCERNS - none
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - none
ADJOURNMENT ................................................ 8
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 9, 1972
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was
held on the 9th day of October, 1972, at the hour of 7:30 p.m. of
said day in the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street, Tustin,
California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Dukleth.
The Invocation was given by Chairman Curtis.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Others
Present:
Curtis, Dukleth, Larnard, Sharp.
Edelstein.
James G. Rourke, City Attorney
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City Administrator-
Community Development Director
Pat Brown, Assistant Planning Director
Nancy Lawton, Planning Commission Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OF REGULAR MEETING
SEPTemBER 25, 1972
PUBLIC HEARINGS
UP-72-394 - Assistance League of Tustin - to permit the retail sale
of used goods in a commercially zoned district.
Location:
Site has a frontage of approximately 47.5' on the south
side of Second Street, is located approximately 130'
westerly of the centerline of Prospect Avenue, and is
further identified as. ]..60 E.. Socond. Street..
Mr. Fleagle advised that the property in question is presently zoned
C-2-P, although it is located within the perimeters of the E1 Camino Real
Specific Plan District.
The applicants are proposing to move from their present location on Main
Street, and have been in operation at that location since 1969, although
no previous Use Permit had been granted for the existing facility. They
intend to use the existing building for the sale of used items of cloth-
ing, etc. The Assistance League is a philanthropic organization and all
profits are utilized for various charitable purposes.
Staff has been advised that the applicants have purchased the vacant lot
lying easterly of subject property, and located at the intersection of
Second Street and Prospect Avenue. They ultimately plan to expand their
facilities structurally onto this vacant lot, and will provide at that
time ample parking for the total facility. This Use Permit, however,
applies to both properties.
Staff feels that the proposed use of this structure and property would
be an excellent one, based on the past history of the Assistance League
at its present location and that it is a quiet and worthy one and is in
accord with applicable specific and general plans of the City of Tustin.
Mr. Fleagle stated that the Development Preview Commission gave prelimin-
ary review to this item at their September 27, 1972 meeting, and they
recommended that if the request is approved, the applicants upgrade the
existing landscaping in the parkway and at the front of the structure.
Any further action on their part would be contingent upon the development
of the vacant parcel for further expansion of this use at some time in
the future. Signing on the existing structure will be relocated to the
new structure.
Mr. Flea~l.e also advised the Commission that he had been informed that
t~h'e ventilating equipment on the roof of the building is exposed, there-
fore, should be screened from view.
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Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:37 p.m.
Robert Hippe, 2127 N. Main Street, Santa Ana, architect for the Assistance
League, informed the Commission that the applicants are presently revit-
alizing the landscaping and would be most happy to take care of screen-
ing the air-conditioning equipment.
John Jamieson, 445 E1 Camino Real, stated that he was very sorry to see
the Assistance League moving, as they were such nice neighbors, but ad.
vised that they would be an asset to anyone's building.
Mr. Rourke arrived at this point of the meeting.
Public portion of the hearing was closed at 7:39 p.m. for discussion
among the Commissioners.
Commissioner Larnard moved for approval of UP-72-394, by adoption of
Resolution No. 1291, subject to the conditions outlined in the Resolu-
tion; seconded by Commissioner Sharp.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
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UP-72-393 - Clyde E. Stockdale, et al. - to permit .the temporary use
of two mobile home classrooms for a one year period for
Tustin's Kiddie Kollege.
Location:
Site has a frontage of approximately 150' on the west
side of Yorba Avenue, and is located approximately 200'
south of the centerline of Irvine Boulevard.
Mr. Brown advised the Commission that this facility has been in operation
at the same location for several years dating back to the time the prop-
erty was still in the County. In 1962, the County granted a conditior~l
permit for the original nursery school use.
After the property had been annexed to the City in November, 1964,
Variance 64-152 was granted by the Planning Commission to permit a nur-
sery school in the E-4 zone on this property, with one of the conditions
of approval b~g that block walls be constructed on the north and south
property line, which was accomplished. This variance request was filed
and granted on the basis that the property at that time was zoned E-4,
which district did not permit either by right or by use permit nursery
schools of this type. A maximum of 48 students was agreed upon at that
time.
In April, 1968, Variance 68-208 was granted by the Planning Commission.
This variance request was to permit the enlargement of the nursery school
to approximately 157 students; and, to accommodate these additional stu-
dents, to permit the construction of a new 3500 sauare foot school struc-
ture towards the rear of the existing facility. Conditions of this
approval were:
A minimum of 10 offstreet parking stalls with'20 loading spaces
on the paved circular driveway.
That the applicant agree and bond, to the approval of the City
Engineer and City Attorney, to dedicate and install street
improvements.
Plans, including landscaping, be approved by the Architectura..
Committee.
4. A parcel map be filed for division of land.
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A masonry wall 6' high be installed around the subject property,
except within 20' of the ultimate public right-of-way.
That the driveway at the westerly turn be widened to a width
satisfactory to the Fire Department.
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To date, only conditions 2, 3 and 6 have been accomplished by the appli-
cants and the proposed new structure was never constructed. The number
of students presently utilizing the school facilities at one time is 70.
The State Social Welfare Department of Orange County has advised that
the present limitation by State laws on the number of students in the
existing 'facility is 55. This spring, the proprietors of the school
attempted to increase this number to 75; however, the Fire Department
denied this request on the basis of area limitations per student as
established by the State Fire Marshal's Office and the Social Welfare
Department. This denial undoubtedly prompted the filing of this Use
Permit for the temporary mobile classrooms.
Subsequent to 1968, when the last variance was granted, the property was
rezoned from E-4 to R-3. This present application, is now the proper
legal vehicle, since unlike the E-4 District, the R-3 District permits
nursery schools where a Use Permit has been granted for such purposes.
Staff initially had no objection to this request ~r the temporary use
for the mobile classrooms, as they would be located to the rear of the
existing facility and would be unobstrusive to the general public. How-
ever, the total history of this facility, and certain present actions on
the part of the applicants, warrants a serious reconsideration of this
proposal:
1. Boundaries of nursery school have never been delineated.
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Several of the conditions in both 1964 and 1968 actions have
not been accomplished, e.g., filing of parcel map, completion
of the block wall on north and west limits of the school site,
and the providing of adequate parking accommodations.
3. Street improvements without permit.
Mr. Brown stated that as a result of the factors discuss~l_ak~ue~, this
Use Permit should be denied. However, an alternate action would be to
approve this request, subject to the following conditions:
The filing of aKw Use Permit which would cover the entire
school proposal, with a plot plan showing boundaries of the
property, existing and proposed structures, parking areas,
driveways and landscaping.
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The filing of a parcel map delineating the ultimate perimeters
and boundaries of the nursery school property.
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Th~ posting of a bond to cover the ultimate construction of
the masonry wall and any landscaping or parking area required
by the Development Preview Commission and the street improvements.
4. The submission of a master concept plan to the Development Pre-
view Commission for their review and approval.
~r. Brown informed the Commission that a letter had been received from
the applicants in which they advise that they are taking immediate steps
to do the following: widen Yorba Street in front of school property;
ask for a lot split dividing school and convalescent hospital; and, will
apply for an up-to-date Use Permit for the school.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:51 p.m.
Clyde Stockdale, 131 Itall Circle, advised that the school found themselves
in a tight squeeze at the first of the school year as far as the amount
of students applying, and needed extra accommodations for them.
L. B. "Bill" Lewis, 170 Preble Drive, one of the applicants, commented
that at this time there is a financial situation involved, and that if
the school did all o~ the things suggested by the City, it would cost
approximately $7,000 to $9,000.
Public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:03 p.m. for discussion
among the Commissioners.
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Commissioner Dukleth felt there was quite a few discrepancies, and
wa~ c~c~ud ablaut ~h~ ia~k ~£ ~uui m~ ~d would like ~ ~e mor~
details as respects the total proposal.
Mr. Stockdale questioned if the wall had to be built on all sides, as
if it were put on the north side, several trees would have to be re-
moved, and he felt this should not be done. He also stated that the
trailers were going to be on the convalescent hospital property.
Mr. Rourke questioned the applicants as respects a statement they made
about the school leasing the property from the convalescent hospital,
and was informed that the City National Bank of Beverly Hills has a
Trust Deed on the hospital property and the vacant parcel, with the
owners of the property being Mr. Stockdale, Mr. Lewis and Mr. C. H.
Smith. Seeing as how this is the case, there would be no lease, per
se, involved.
Mr. Lewis presented a letter to Mr. Fleagle from Hall & Foreman which
stated that a parcel map was in the process of being made and would be
available as soon as possible.
Commissioner Larnard moved for approval of Temporary Use Permit UP-72-393,
subject to the following four conditions prior to the occupancy of the
mobile home classrooms; seconded by Commissioner Sharp:
Filing of a new Use Permit for the total property, along
with ultimate design plans, which can be of a conceptual
nature.
2. The filing of a parcel map.
3. Posting a bond for the remainingw~lls and street improvements, etc.
Submission of a master concept plan to the Development Preview
Commission for their review and approval.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
UP-72-395 - First Christian Church of Tustin - to permit the devel-
opment of a church and allied classrooms.
Location:
Site has a frontage of approximately 310' on the southwest
side of Irvine Boulevard and is located approximately
350' northwesterly of the centerline of Red Hill Avenue.
Mr. Fleagle advised that the property in question was recently approved
for rezoning from the R-1 District to the P&I District, with recommenda-
tion of the Planning Commission of approval at their September 11, 1972
meeting and the introduction of the ordinance by the City Council at
their October 2, 1972 meeting.
The applicants are proposing a three phase development of a single story,
Spanish style church facility. This phased development would occur over
several years with phase 1 accommodating 140 people; phase 2 accommodat-
ing 250 people; and, phase 3 having facilities for 650 people. Parking
for the church members would also be in phases with phase 3 requiring
the joint usage of parking expected to be developed on a professional
office facility located adjacent and southeasterly of the church site.
Staff feels that this use is an appropriate and desirable one for the
land in question and for the surrounding area.
The Development Preview Commission, in giving preliminary review to this
proposal, felt that the initial plans as presented required additional
study in two areas: the rather close proximity of the main structure to
adjacent single-family developments to the northwest; and, a better clari-
fication of exactly what would take place on the site with each phase of
development. They recommended the following:
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1. A reaffirmation of their initial concern relative to the
site location of the church structure; and,
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k further concern about the large, joint, central parking
area proposed between the church building and the proposed
office buildings to the southeast.
The DPC concurs that this use is appropriate to the site, but desires
that the precise location of the church structure, design, parking lot
layout, and traffic circulation be reserved to their review and approval.
Mr. Fleagle made a suggestion that if the parking area was to be exposed
t--o any vast amount that they put in a sub-soil base, space pads and
landscape it, so that it would be more or less a green area when not
being used as a parking lot.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 8:39 p.m.
Jo~n Jamieson, 445 E1 Camino Real, architect for the First Christian
~hurch, stated that the development of the parking area is also going
to be in phases, and after thorough research they feel that the total
development will accommodate the church with little left over for the
use of the professional facility.
Public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:43 p.m. for discussion
among the Commissioners.
Commissioner Larnard moved for approval of Resolution No. 1293 approv-
ing UP-72-395; seconded by Commissioner Sharp. The approval of the
Use Permit is not implied to approve the plot plan and diagrams as sub-
mitted and specific authority is granted to the DPC to approve precise
location and design plans.
Conditions of approval include the following:
That the three phase development of this facility shall be
accomplished in accordance with a master plan to be re-
viewed and approved by the Development Preview Commission.
That at the time Phase III is completed, a mutual parking
agreement approved by the City Attorney, with the property
adjacent, to the southeast,shall be filed and recorded with
the city.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
Amendment to Section 4.2 (the R-1 District) of Ordinance No. 157,
the Zoning Ordinance, as amended - to add as a permitted use in
the R-1 District "Day Care Homes-Children".
Mr. Fleagle stated that on July 19, 1971, the City Council adopted Ordin-
ance No. 511 which amended the definition section of the Zoning Ordinance,
Ordinance No. 157 which defined a Day Care Home as:
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"Day Care Homes-Child en - family dwelling unit, non-institutional
in character, properly licensed by the Orange County Welfare De-
partment, which provides day care only, with or without compensa-
tion for:
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Not more than five (5) children including the family
day care mother's own children, when the age range is
infancy through 6; and,
Not more than six (6) children when the age range is
There was an implied assumption, that day care homes for children would
be permitted in residential district. Therefore, the City Attorney has
recommended the present ~endment to the Zoning Ordinance for consis-
tency, since the Zoning Ordinance is permissive in nature by specifying
uses that are permitted in each district.
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In certain City of Tustin residential districts, there is a cumulative
in the R-2, R-3 and Planned Development Districts. As a consequence,
the subject amendment, which specifies the R-1 District only, actually
would provide the same permitted use in those Districts enumerative
above. These cumulative provisions do not, however, apply to the E-4
or R-4 residential districts, therefore, "Day Care Itomes-Children" would
not be permitted in those two districts.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 8:57 p.m.,
and seeing or hearing no one for or against the issue, closed the
public portion of the hearing at 8:58 p.m.
Commissioner Shard moved for approval by adoption of Resolution No. 1294;
seconded by Commissioner Dukleth.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
OLD BUSINESS - none
NEW BUSINESS
1. PM-72-55 - First Southern Baptist Church of Tustin .
Location: Southwesterly corner of San Juan Street and Red Hill Ave.
Mr. Brown advised that the applicants are requesting to create two par-
cels in order to facilitate the sale and development of Parcel No. 1.
This property was the subject of Commission initiated Zone Change 70-209
which rezoned Parcel 1 from the Unclassified District to PC-C-1 (Planned
Community Retail Commercial) District and Parcel 2 from the Unclassified
District to PC-C-2 (Planned Community Central Commercial) District in
June of 1970. The parcels being created by this map conform with the
zoning lines approved under ZC-70-209.
The City Engineer informs Commission that Red Hill Avenue is currently
classified as a major arterial and, therefore, an additional 10' of
right-of-way will be required under the Master Plan of Arterial High-
ways. San Juan Street is a local street which presently has certain
discrepancies with regard to its existing street right-of-way. Inasmuch
as this is a significant collector street, it is felt that 33 feet would
be the proper half-width for San Juan. Also, Red Hill Avenue is improved
as a primary arterial with the exception of sidewalk and street lightinq.
San Juan frontage has no street improvements with the exception of a
single lane of asphalt pavement.
The City Engineer has made the following conditions if the Parcel Map is
approved:
Upon development of either parcel, the dedication of 10' of
additional right-of-way for Red Hill in accordance with the
Master Plan of Arterial Highways.
Upon development of Parcel 1, the granting of 33' of right-
of-way for the half street width of San Juan Street plus a
standard "corner cutoff" at the intersection. This will
clarify the right-of-way situation on San Juan and make it
conform with the section east of Red Hill.
Upon development of either parcel, the installation of all
street improvements which have not previously been constructed
including curb and gutter, sidewalk, street lighting and street
pavement.
The final approval by the City Engineer and recordation of the
Parcel Map.
Commissioner Sharp felt that he would like to see more plans before mak-
ing any d'ecisions.
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William Dean, Chairman of the Building and Planning Committee for the
church, stated that if the church sells the corner property, they will
have the finances to go on with the development plans. The church has
opened escrow with Walker & Lee for the corner property. It is the
intent of the church to have a driveway access at the rear of their
property which will be shared jointly by Parcels 1 and 2. tie advised
that they have had two architects take a look at Parcel 2 to see if it
could accommodate a membership of approximately 600, but the church has
not yet approved any plans at this point.
Commissioner Larnard questioned as to whether the driveway access should
not be shown on the tentative Parcel Map.
Gail Lynch, one of representatives of the church, questioned the City
Engineer's conditions as respects the curb and gutters, and the street
lighting.
Commissioner Larnard moved for approval of Tentative Parcel Map 72-55,
subject to the City Engineer's first three conditions and with two addi-
tional, conditions; seconded by Commissioner Sharp;
That the driveway access easement be shown on the Parcel Map;
and,
That the development plans are compatible between the develop-'
ments of Parcel 1 and 2 as respects the structures and circula-
tion.
It was therefore required that a final map be presented for Commission
approval in accordance with the conditions of the Tentative Map.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
Environmental Impaut Statement' for First St[·et from- tlr N~wpurt
Freeway to Prospect Avenue.
Mr. Fleagl~ stated that this report was submitted by the City Engineer
and such reports are required by the County on all projects receiving
County financial assistance under the Arterial Highway Financing Program.
This report utilizes the same format as adopted by the Orange County
Road Department for their Environmental Impact Statements.
Cha~Curtis moved for approval of this statement, as amended; seconded
~y Commissioner Sharp; and advised that this Statement is in compliance
with the Open Space-Conservation-Recreation Element.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
Pendin~ Items
1. Bicycle Plan - continued from September 25, 1972 meeting.
Proposed Zone Change from R-3 and C-1 to P&I District for Civic
Center Site.
Commissioner Sharp moved to set this item up for public hearing; seconded
~y Commissioner Larnard.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
3. Tentative Tract Map No. 7979 - Laurelwood
CORRESPONDENCE
Letter from Orange County Action Committee for the Physically Handi-
Mr. Brown stated that this organization was concerned with the City's
compliance with pertinent provisions of the Health and Safety Code re-
garding architectural standards for the physically hand~capped.
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Workshop - Land Use Element
Mr. Fleaqle requested the Commission to adjourn to a workshop session to
review the Land Use Element of the General Plan. By State Law, the
General Plan and Zoning Ordinance must be in substantial compliance by
1 January, 1973.
COMMISSION CONCERNS - none
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - none
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Larnard moved for adjournment at 10:10 p.m., seconded by
Commissioner Shar~; to a showing of a film and workshop session to dis-
cuss the Land Use Element of the General Plan, then to a regular scheduled
meeting on October 24, 1972, due to the holiday on October 23rd.
C}~AIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
~LAN~I~G CO~MiSS~-~.CORDING SECRETARY
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